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- # Session Start: Wed Dec 07 00:00:00 2011
- # Session Ident: #accessibility
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- # [00:03] <firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 708106 filed by hub@mozilla.com.
- # [00:03] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708106 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Remove consts for pre 10.4
- # [00:11] <firebot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 579368 on bug 706369.
- # [00:11] <firebot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 579475 on bug 706369.
- # [00:11] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=706369 nor, --, ---, jigneshhk1992, NEW, don't use nsIContent::GetChildAt to iterate through children
- # [00:43] <firebot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 579475 on bug 706369.
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- # [00:43] <firebot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 579475 on bug 706369.
- # [00:44] <firebot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 579491 on bug 706369.
- # [00:44] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=706369 nor, --, ---, jigneshhk1992, NEW, don't use nsIContent::GetChildAt to iterate through children
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- # [01:45] <birtles> hi, it's been suggested I get some feedback from a11y for bug 376027, is there someone here I can request feedback from?
- # [01:45] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=376027 nor, --, ---, birtles, ASSI, SVG display:none rules
- # [01:57] <@tbsaunde> birtles: davidb or MarcoZ would probably be good
- # [01:57] <birtles> tbsaunde, thanks!
- # [01:59] <@tbsaunde> yw!
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- # [02:19] <firebot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 579491 on bug 706369.
- # [02:19] <firebot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 579535 on bug 706369.
- # [02:19] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=706369 nor, --, ---, jigneshhk1992, NEW, don't use nsIContent::GetChildAt to iterate through children
- # [02:20] * @davidb hopes to do that in the morning
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- # [02:38] <firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 708144 filed by hub@mozilla.com.
- # [02:38] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708144 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, After loading a new page, the WebArea is not longer accessible
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- # [02:57] <Jamie> hi everyone.
- # [02:57] <Jamie> Does anyone happen to know whether there have been any chances recently with regard to the way windowed plugins are handled on Windows?
- # [02:57] <Jamie> err, mchanges*
- # [02:57] * Jamie sighs. changes*
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- # [05:41] <firewolfbot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 579535 on bug 706369.
- # [05:41] <firewolfbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=706369 nor, --, ---, jigneshhk1992, NEW, don't use nsIContent::GetChildAt to iterate through children
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- # [06:11] <@tbsaunde> surkov: can you explain / point me were to look at the mac stuff? I'm not sure I understand these attribute things you talk about
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- # [06:32] <@surkov> tbsaunde: http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Cocoa/Reference/ApplicationKit/Protocols/NSAccessibility_Protocol/Reference/Reference.html
- # [06:39] <firewolfbot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled checkin? for attachment 579413 on bug 455443.
- # [06:40] <firewolfbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455443 nor, --, ---, hub, ASSI, cache the parent for the accessibilityAttributeValue(NSAccessibilityParentAttribute)
- # [06:47] <@tbsaunde> surkov: so, the description of AttributeNames() seems to say you should call the super class impl, and add to what it returns
- # [06:48] <@surkov> that makes sense
- # [06:48] <@tbsaunde> so, what I think I'd propose is that we always create a nsMutableArray and then cast the return of the super class AttributeNames() from nsArray* to nsMutableArray*
- # [06:49] <@surkov> he use static array which is great
- # [06:49] <@surkov> and must be fast
- # [06:50] <@tbsaunde> yeah, but he stills needs an initial allocation
- # [06:51] <@tbsaunde> and its a one time cost either way
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- # [06:53] <@tbsaunde> its tricky since I don't have a good idea what times things take or how often this is called
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- # [07:09] <@tbsaunde> surkov: you see how the refrence page groups the attributes? how do you feel about something like a macro for each of those groupings?
- # [07:10] <@tbsaunde> like #define MOZ_ACCESSIBLE_ATTRIBUTES nsParent, nsChildren, nsRole, ...
- # [07:10] <@surkov> tbsaunde: that's what I asked you about?
- # [07:10] <@tbsaunde> #define MOZ_TEXT_ACCESSIBLE_ATTRIBUTES nsCarretPos, nsText, nsFont, ....
- # [07:11] <@tbsaunde> surkov: that's what I though, I think that's fine
- # [07:11] <@surkov> ok, great, then answer my comment in bug :)
- # [07:12] <@tbsaunde> I wouldn't call it perfect, but its a lot better what wwe have, and I'm not sure what perfect would look like orhow to judge
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- # [08:18] <firewolfbot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 579601 on bug 706369.
- # [08:18] <firewolfbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=706369 nor, --, ---, jigneshhk1992, NEW, don't use nsIContent::GetChildAt to iterate through children
- # [08:19] <firewolfbot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 579601 on bug 706369.
- # [08:19] <firewolfbot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 579602 on bug 706369.
- # [08:23] <firewolfbot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com denied review for attachment 579602 on bug 706369.
- # [08:28] <firewolfbot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 579604 on bug 706369.
- # [08:31] <firewolfbot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 579604 on bug 706369.
- # [08:31] <firewolfbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=706369 nor, --, ---, jigneshhk1992, NEW, don't use nsIContent::GetChildAt to iterate through children
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- # [09:26] <firewolfbot> ginn.chen@oracle.com granted review for attachment 578474 on bug 705983.
- # [09:26] <firewolfbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=705983 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Firefox a11y is not enabled on GNOME if config.use_system_prefs.accessibility is false (default)
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- # [10:17] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Hi! Does Mozilla.com e-mail still not work for you, either?
- # [10:18] <@surkov> MarcoZ: yep
- # [10:18] <@MarcoZ> Crap....Thanks! :)
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- # [10:23] <@tbsaunde> MarcoZ: looka at as one less thing you need to deal with
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- # [11:06] <Jamie> MarcoZ: hi. :) quick question: do you know if there have been any changes to the way windowed plugins are exposed recently?
- # [11:07] <Jamie> they seem to be wrapped in an extra MozillaWindowClass window now which didn't exist before
- # [11:08] <Jamie> this is breaking NVDA's command to get out of embedded objects
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- # [15:04] <@MarcoZ> Hi davidb!
- # [15:06] <@davidb> heyo
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- # [15:10] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Have you heard any office gossip about when we'll have MoCo mail back? :)
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- # [15:10] <@MarcoZ> Oh, davidb's twin again! ;-)
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- # [15:13] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Have you heard any office gossip about when we'll have MoCo mail back? :)
- # [15:13] <davidb> nope
- # [15:14] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Interesting! At least I was able to post the meeting announcement to the newsgroups today. These were offline for me yesterday, too.
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- # [16:00] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Regarding bug 705404, here's an example: In Firefox on mac, a bulleted or numbered list (ul or ol) is a true parent of the actual list items, what VoiceOver's interaction mechanism is concerned. You have to interact with the list to get at the items.
- # [16:00] <firewolfbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=705404 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, build separate accessible tree on mac
- # [16:01] <@MarcoZ> davidb: If you look at the same page with Safari, the announcement that there'a list of x items coming is flattened into the regular text flow of the page. No interaction is necessary, yo simply nav to the next object and automatically get to the list items.
- # [16:03] <davidb> interesting
- # [16:03] <davidb> is that by design or bug?
- # [16:04] <@MarcoZ> I don't know yet.
- # [16:04] <@MarcoZ> But I assume this is what this bug is about, to flatten out stuff so VoiceOver sees a more Safari-like structure.
- # [16:05] <davidb> ok I'd like to understand if that is the case
- # [16:05] <davidb> surkov: ^
- # [16:05] <@MarcoZ> I don't know what a bulleted or ordered list looks like in Accessibility Verifier in Safari, though, so this is all speculation and some observations I made during my initial sparse testing.
- # [16:10] <@tbsaunde> davidb: why is that bug concerning to you? I don't think I understand what surkov wants, but it doesn't sound particularly bad
- # [16:11] <@surkov> MarcoZ: yeah, you need to compare trees and file a bug
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- # [16:11] <davidb> tbsaunde: I believe the technical term is "spidey sensee"
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- # [16:11] <davidb> -e
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- # [16:12] <@tbsaunde> davidb: fair
- # [16:12] <@hub> hi
- # [16:12] <davidb> heyo
- # [16:13] <davidb> tbsaunde: I'm in information gathering mode though. I want to understand it clearly.
- # [16:13] <@tbsaunde> davidb: ok, I gues that's fair
- # [16:14] * @tbsaunde is happy to wait for a patch to show up before judging
- # [16:14] <davidb> heheh
- # [16:14] <davidb> well I think there are more than one approach to this.
- # [16:15] <@tbsaunde> I haven't put much energy into understanding the problem yet
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- # [16:19] <davidb> surkov, hub: could bug 705404 be called "Prune accessible tree on Mac"?
- # [16:19] <firewolfbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=705404 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, build separate accessible tree on mac
- # [16:20] <davidb> or is there more to it?
- # [16:20] <@surkov> davidb: no because this summary doesn't address tree update issue
- # [16:20] <davidb> hmm
- # [16:22] <@hub> the update issue is bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708144
- # [16:22] <firewolfbot> Bug 708144 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, After loading a new page, the WebArea is not longer accessible
- # [16:24] <davidb> ok I think bug 705404 sounds like a couple of bugs
- # [16:24] <davidb> "mac tree invalidation is broken" + "separate tree"
- # [16:25] <davidb> if "separate tree" is for perf/cleanliness
- # [16:25] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I'd probably prefer it as several patches, but I don't really care about the number of bugs
- # [16:26] <davidb> i don't mind either as long as i can grok the ideas
- # [16:26] <@MarcoZ> Hi hub!
- # [16:26] <davidb> tbsaunde: multiple bugs can be extremely useful for triage, especially for branch merges, back outs, approvals etc.
- # [16:27] <davidb> if you glom them all together you are toast
- # [16:27] <davidb> per patch status and approval helps though
- # [16:27] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I'd expect several patches for the same bug would do the same
- # [16:28] <@hub> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/try-builds/hfiguiere@mozilla.com-8ebd0d96a4e9/try-macosx64/firefox-11.0a1.en-US.mac.dmg
- # [16:28] <@hub> this build *should* have a11y enabled
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- # [16:28] <@hub> on Mac
- # [16:28] <davidb> hub: is that for MarcoZ?
- # [16:28] <@hub> MarcoZ: if you want to give it a try.
- # [16:29] <@hub> sorry it took me so long.
- # [16:29] <@hub> I haven't tried it
- # [16:29] <@tbsaunde> davidb: but I tend to avoid bugzilla when possible and generally look at it as a very complicated way to review patches / have others review them
- # [16:29] <@MarcoZ> hub: No worries, I'll give this a try right after the meeting!
- # [16:30] <davidb> tbsaunde: haha! well my point was meant to be about the way release drivers work, with bug status, whiteboards etc.
- # [16:30] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I gues, it seems like what they do should work as well either way, but I've never been one so shrug
- # [16:31] <davidb> tbsaunde: do you have dial in info for our vidyo room?
- # [16:31] * @tbsaunde actually wants the all patches are sent to an ml approach
- # [16:31] <@tbsaunde> davidb: no?
- # [16:31] <davidb> it is the same up to after you do 92
- # [16:31] <@tbsaunde> well, I gues I could dig through logs
- # [16:31] <davidb> then you do 99369
- # [16:32] <@tbsaunde> davidb: uh, I don't usually do 92?
- # [16:32] <davidb> haha ok 1 sec
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- # [16:32] <davidb> i'm pm ya
- # [16:33] <davidb> all we're trying vidyo today.
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- # [16:34] <eeejay_mac> yo
- # [16:34] <davidb> heyo
- # [16:34] <@hub> I was wonder how eeejay would do
- # [16:35] <davidb> fwiw I'm in the room
- # [16:35] <@hub> coming
- # [16:36] <@hub> remember. it requires me to enable flash and then to type my login / password
- # [16:37] <davidb> yeah :(
- # [16:37] <@hub> I can't wait for WebRTC
- # [16:37] <eeejay_mac> what is the room?
- # [16:37] <@hub> accessibility
- # [16:37] <@hub> that's the name of the room
- # [16:37] <davidb> yep
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- # [16:39] <davidb> surkov: join the party
- # [16:39] <@surkov> ok
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- # [16:47] <davidb> tbsaunde: ping me when can
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- # [16:55] <@surkov> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/OpenATCollaborationProject
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- # [17:32] <davidb> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/Planning
- # [17:32] <@surkov> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/2012CorePicture
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- # [17:39] <eeejay_mac> hm, looks like i would need to sign up to yammer with my mozilla mail
- # [17:39] <eeejay_mac> next time
- # [17:39] <davidb> yeah
- # [17:39] <eeejay_mac> bbiab
- # [17:40] * @MarcoZ downloads the try build to his Mac.
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- # [17:44] <davidb> surkov: http://people.mozilla.com/~dbolter/svg-checkbox-test.html
- # [17:45] <davidb> mildly related to birtles f?
- # [17:46] <davidb> we can have accessible objects from svg elements
- # [17:50] <@surkov> davidb: oh, yeah, because of aria magic
- # [17:50] <@surkov> davidb: so that bug could affect us, you're right
- # [17:50] <davidb> if someone puts <filter role="checkbox"> i'll hit them :)
- # [17:51] <davidb> but it shouldn't affect us in a terrible way, we can fix any weirdness as we find it
- # [17:51] <@surkov> davidb: wanna comment?
- # [17:51] <davidb> sure
- # [17:51] <@surkov> thanks!
- # [17:51] <davidb> np
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- # [17:51] <@surkov> but that could be terrible way though, we need testing
- # [17:51] <davidb> surkov: I already f+'ed by the way.
- # [17:51] <@surkov> but I don't know svg
- # [17:52] <@surkov> but I don't know svg
- # [17:52] <@MarcoZ> hub: Does the try-server build contain the patch for bug 703770? Because VoiceOver still doesn't read roles for me.
- # [17:52] <firewolfbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=703770 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, Mac Accessibility Verifier errors
- # [17:53] <@MarcoZ> hub: other than that, I see content! Lots of content! Not all of what I'd expect, and I have a feeling navigation gets still stuck, but this is much better than it was before.
- # [17:54] <@hub> MarcoZ: I'm not sure 703770 is dealing with that either
- # [17:54] <@MarcoZ> hub: Performance is decent, I only get an initial delay when the page is first loaded, of about 30 seconds. After that, performance is good, with navigation from object to object taking about half a second to a second. Not as instant as with Safari, but also not bad considering this is the first build!
- # [17:54] <@MarcoZ> hub: Ah OK!
- # [17:55] <@MarcoZ> hub: I do get roles spoken in web content, like textbox, list box etc., but in dialogs such as the Preferences window, no roles are spoken at all.
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- # [17:56] <@hub> yeah the preference dialog is not really accessible
- # [17:57] <@hub> MarcoZ: I think we have a bug for that.
- # [17:57] <@hub> if not I'll make sure there is one
- # [17:57] <@hub> bug 703770 has a patch in that build
- # [17:59] <@MarcoZ> hub: Yes for the roles we have bug 499927, and for some of the missing text we have bug 499931.
- # [17:59] <firewolfbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=499927 maj, --, ---, hub, NEW, VoiceOver not speaking most accessible roles of UI and web page elements
- # [17:59] <firewolfbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=499931 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, VoiceOver skips over plain text on pages, also not visible in object chooser menu
- # [17:59] <@hub> good
- # [17:59] <@hub> I'll add these to my plate
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- # [18:13] <davidb> MarcoZ: bug 653226 discusses different options. do you have an opinion?
- # [18:13] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653226 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Improve keyboard accessibility of type="menu-button" buttons
- # [18:16] <@MarcoZ> davidb: I am following that bug, so if I haven't voiced them, I probably haven't. :)
- # [18:16] * @MarcoZ is actually on Yammer, having remembered the password after all, and is utterly confused by the site.
- # [18:20] <davidb> oh man
- # [18:20] <davidb> i have to unblock uaig
- # [18:20] <@MarcoZ> Yeah I currently can't even figure out where to go with the V Cursor to post an update.
- # [18:21] <@MarcoZ> uaig?
- # [18:21] <davidb> user agent implementation guide
- # [18:21] <davidb> i need to fix 5 'bugs' by friday
- # [18:21] <davidb> due to people taking vacation etc.
- # [18:21] <davidb> otherwise CR schedule is impacted
- # [18:21] <@hub> ouch
- # [18:21] <davidb> (community review?)
- # [18:22] <davidb> s'ok they aren't hard, just eats into my hack time :(
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- # [18:31] <@tbsaunde> surkov: if nsAccessNode has a private copy constructor shouldn't that protect all the things that inherit from it (re bug 539694)
- # [18:31] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=539694 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, accessible objects should have private copy constructor
- # [18:32] <@surkov> tbsaunde: for inheritance is used public constructor that each class provides, isn't it?
- # [18:32] <@surkov> sorry, not in english: public constructor is used for inheritance :)
- # [18:33] <@surkov> I'm sleeping actually
- # [18:33] <@surkov> tbsaunde, it should do a trick I think, can you check it please?
- # [18:36] <@tbsaunde> surkov: not right now, but I can and will comment in the bug
- # [18:36] <davidb> MarcoZ: @yammer
- # [18:36] <davidb> you could ask them
- # [18:40] <@surkov> tbsaunde: thanks!
- # [18:42] <@tbsaunde> yw
- # [18:43] <@tbsaunde> its better thank thinking about the patch I just saw adding module_semaphore_count_get() :/
- # [18:49] <@MarcoZ> davidb: I will definitely do that!
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- # [19:07] <@MarcoZ> davidb_: I tweeted them. Let's see if they respond.
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- # [19:42] <davidb> mail seems mostly back
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- # [19:45] <davidb> for some definition of mostly
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- # [19:57] <@davidb> ah there he is
- # [19:57] <@davidb> hub: i'm finding a phone room
- # [19:57] <@hub> yeah apparently xchat didn't reconnect
- # [19:57] <@davidb> is now good?
- # [19:57] <@hub> *sigh*
- # [19:57] <@hub> yeah we can do it now
- # [19:57] <@hub> let me login
- # [19:57] <@davidb> great
- # [19:58] <@davidb> i'm in the a11y room
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- # [21:29] <firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 689847 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
- # [21:29] <firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 689847 to FIXED.
- # [21:29] <firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 689847 from --- to mozilla11.
- # [21:29] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=689847 nor, --, mozilla11, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, Expose active state on current item of selectable widgets
- # [21:30] <firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 706369 from NEW to RESOLVED.
- # [21:30] <firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 706369 to FIXED.
- # [21:30] <firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 706369 from --- to mozilla11.
- # [21:30] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=706369 nor, --, mozilla11, jigneshhk1992, RESO FIXED, don't use nsIContent::GetChildAt to iterate through children
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- # [21:44] <firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 579793 on bug 455443.
- # [21:44] <firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested checkin from the wind for attachment 579793 on bug 455443.
- # [21:44] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455443 nor, --, ---, hub, ASSI, cache the parent for the accessibilityAttributeValue(NSAccessibilityParentAttribute)
- # [22:31] <firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 579814 on bug 707852.
- # [22:31] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707852 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, [mac] remove the Objective-C wrapper
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- # [22:54] <firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 579821 on bug 703770.
- # [22:54] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=703770 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, Mac Accessibility Verifier errors
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- # [23:28] <eeejay> anyone manage to recieve mail via zimbra?
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- # [23:36] <@hub> eeejay: webmail only
- # [23:36] <@hub> eeejay: the rest is still down
- # [23:36] <eeejay> hub, yeah. but are you getting stuff in your webmail inbox? i sent something to myself via an external account and it does not arrive
- # [23:37] <@hub> I haven't checked
- # [23:37] <eeejay> they say there is still a queue it is struggling through
- # [23:37] <@hub> not sure of the backlog
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- # Session Close: Thu Dec 08 00:00:00 2011
The end :)