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  1. # Session Start: Wed Dec 07 00:00:00 2011
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  6. # [00:03] <firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 708106 filed by hub@mozilla.com.
  7. # [00:03] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708106 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Remove consts for pre 10.4
  8. # [00:11] <firebot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 579368 on bug 706369.
  9. # [00:11] <firebot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 579475 on bug 706369.
  10. # [00:11] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=706369 nor, --, ---, jigneshhk1992, NEW, don't use nsIContent::GetChildAt to iterate through children
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  14. # [00:44] <firebot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 579491 on bug 706369.
  15. # [00:44] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=706369 nor, --, ---, jigneshhk1992, NEW, don't use nsIContent::GetChildAt to iterate through children
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  22. # [01:45] <birtles> hi, it's been suggested I get some feedback from a11y for bug 376027, is there someone here I can request feedback from?
  23. # [01:45] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=376027 nor, --, ---, birtles, ASSI, SVG display:none rules
  24. # [01:57] <@tbsaunde> birtles: davidb or MarcoZ would probably be good
  25. # [01:57] <birtles> tbsaunde, thanks!
  26. # [01:59] <@tbsaunde> yw!
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  28. # [02:19] <firebot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 579491 on bug 706369.
  29. # [02:19] <firebot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 579535 on bug 706369.
  30. # [02:19] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=706369 nor, --, ---, jigneshhk1992, NEW, don't use nsIContent::GetChildAt to iterate through children
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  33. # [02:38] <firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 708144 filed by hub@mozilla.com.
  34. # [02:38] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708144 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, After loading a new page, the WebArea is not longer accessible
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  37. # [02:57] <Jamie> hi everyone.
  38. # [02:57] <Jamie> Does anyone happen to know whether there have been any chances recently with regard to the way windowed plugins are handled on Windows?
  39. # [02:57] <Jamie> err, mchanges*
  40. # [02:57] * Jamie sighs. changes*
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  66. # [05:41] <firewolfbot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 579535 on bug 706369.
  67. # [05:41] <firewolfbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=706369 nor, --, ---, jigneshhk1992, NEW, don't use nsIContent::GetChildAt to iterate through children
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  70. # [06:11] <@tbsaunde> surkov: can you explain / point me were to look at the mac stuff? I'm not sure I understand these attribute things you talk about
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  72. # [06:32] <@surkov> tbsaunde: http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Cocoa/Reference/ApplicationKit/Protocols/NSAccessibility_Protocol/Reference/Reference.html
  73. # [06:39] <firewolfbot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled checkin? for attachment 579413 on bug 455443.
  74. # [06:40] <firewolfbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455443 nor, --, ---, hub, ASSI, cache the parent for the accessibilityAttributeValue(NSAccessibilityParentAttribute)
  75. # [06:47] <@tbsaunde> surkov: so, the description of AttributeNames() seems to say you should call the super class impl, and add to what it returns
  76. # [06:48] <@surkov> that makes sense
  77. # [06:48] <@tbsaunde> so, what I think I'd propose is that we always create a nsMutableArray and then cast the return of the super class AttributeNames() from nsArray* to nsMutableArray*
  78. # [06:49] <@surkov> he use static array which is great
  79. # [06:49] <@surkov> and must be fast
  80. # [06:50] <@tbsaunde> yeah, but he stills needs an initial allocation
  81. # [06:51] <@tbsaunde> and its a one time cost either way
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  84. # [06:53] <@tbsaunde> its tricky since I don't have a good idea what times things take or how often this is called
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  87. # [07:09] <@tbsaunde> surkov: you see how the refrence page groups the attributes? how do you feel about something like a macro for each of those groupings?
  88. # [07:10] <@tbsaunde> like #define MOZ_ACCESSIBLE_ATTRIBUTES nsParent, nsChildren, nsRole, ...
  89. # [07:10] <@surkov> tbsaunde: that's what I asked you about?
  90. # [07:10] <@tbsaunde> #define MOZ_TEXT_ACCESSIBLE_ATTRIBUTES nsCarretPos, nsText, nsFont, ....
  91. # [07:11] <@tbsaunde> surkov: that's what I though, I think that's fine
  92. # [07:11] <@surkov> ok, great, then answer my comment in bug :)
  93. # [07:12] <@tbsaunde> I wouldn't call it perfect, but its a lot better what wwe have, and I'm not sure what perfect would look like orhow to judge
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  97. # [08:18] <firewolfbot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 579601 on bug 706369.
  98. # [08:18] <firewolfbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=706369 nor, --, ---, jigneshhk1992, NEW, don't use nsIContent::GetChildAt to iterate through children
  99. # [08:19] <firewolfbot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 579601 on bug 706369.
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  102. # [08:28] <firewolfbot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 579604 on bug 706369.
  103. # [08:31] <firewolfbot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 579604 on bug 706369.
  104. # [08:31] <firewolfbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=706369 nor, --, ---, jigneshhk1992, NEW, don't use nsIContent::GetChildAt to iterate through children
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  111. # [09:26] <firewolfbot> ginn.chen@oracle.com granted review for attachment 578474 on bug 705983.
  112. # [09:26] <firewolfbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=705983 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Firefox a11y is not enabled on GNOME if config.use_system_prefs.accessibility is false (default)
  113. # [09:33] <firewolfbot> ginn.chen@oracle.com granted review for attachment 578428 on bug 705983.
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  115. # [10:17] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Hi! Does Mozilla.com e-mail still not work for you, either?
  116. # [10:18] <@surkov> MarcoZ: yep
  117. # [10:18] <@MarcoZ> Crap....Thanks! :)
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  119. # [10:23] <@tbsaunde> MarcoZ: looka at as one less thing you need to deal with
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  121. # [11:06] <Jamie> MarcoZ: hi. :) quick question: do you know if there have been any changes to the way windowed plugins are exposed recently?
  122. # [11:07] <Jamie> they seem to be wrapped in an extra MozillaWindowClass window now which didn't exist before
  123. # [11:08] <Jamie> this is breaking NVDA's command to get out of embedded objects
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  140. # [15:04] <@MarcoZ> Hi davidb!
  141. # [15:06] <@davidb> heyo
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  144. # [15:10] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Have you heard any office gossip about when we'll have MoCo mail back? :)
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  146. # [15:10] <@MarcoZ> Oh, davidb's twin again! ;-)
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  149. # [15:13] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Have you heard any office gossip about when we'll have MoCo mail back? :)
  150. # [15:13] <davidb> nope
  151. # [15:14] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Interesting! At least I was able to post the meeting announcement to the newsgroups today. These were offline for me yesterday, too.
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  153. # [16:00] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Regarding bug 705404, here's an example: In Firefox on mac, a bulleted or numbered list (ul or ol) is a true parent of the actual list items, what VoiceOver's interaction mechanism is concerned. You have to interact with the list to get at the items.
  154. # [16:00] <firewolfbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=705404 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, build separate accessible tree on mac
  155. # [16:01] <@MarcoZ> davidb: If you look at the same page with Safari, the announcement that there'a list of x items coming is flattened into the regular text flow of the page. No interaction is necessary, yo simply nav to the next object and automatically get to the list items.
  156. # [16:03] <davidb> interesting
  157. # [16:03] <davidb> is that by design or bug?
  158. # [16:04] <@MarcoZ> I don't know yet.
  159. # [16:04] <@MarcoZ> But I assume this is what this bug is about, to flatten out stuff so VoiceOver sees a more Safari-like structure.
  160. # [16:05] <davidb> ok I'd like to understand if that is the case
  161. # [16:05] <davidb> surkov: ^
  162. # [16:05] <@MarcoZ> I don't know what a bulleted or ordered list looks like in Accessibility Verifier in Safari, though, so this is all speculation and some observations I made during my initial sparse testing.
  163. # [16:10] <@tbsaunde> davidb: why is that bug concerning to you? I don't think I understand what surkov wants, but it doesn't sound particularly bad
  164. # [16:11] <@surkov> MarcoZ: yeah, you need to compare trees and file a bug
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  166. # [16:11] <davidb> tbsaunde: I believe the technical term is "spidey sensee"
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  169. # [16:11] <davidb> -e
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  171. # [16:12] <@tbsaunde> davidb: fair
  172. # [16:12] <@hub> hi
  173. # [16:12] <davidb> heyo
  174. # [16:13] <davidb> tbsaunde: I'm in information gathering mode though. I want to understand it clearly.
  175. # [16:13] <@tbsaunde> davidb: ok, I gues that's fair
  176. # [16:14] * @tbsaunde is happy to wait for a patch to show up before judging
  177. # [16:14] <davidb> heheh
  178. # [16:14] <davidb> well I think there are more than one approach to this.
  179. # [16:15] <@tbsaunde> I haven't put much energy into understanding the problem yet
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  182. # [16:19] <davidb> surkov, hub: could bug 705404 be called "Prune accessible tree on Mac"?
  183. # [16:19] <firewolfbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=705404 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, build separate accessible tree on mac
  184. # [16:20] <davidb> or is there more to it?
  185. # [16:20] <@surkov> davidb: no because this summary doesn't address tree update issue
  186. # [16:20] <davidb> hmm
  187. # [16:22] <@hub> the update issue is bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708144
  188. # [16:22] <firewolfbot> Bug 708144 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, After loading a new page, the WebArea is not longer accessible
  189. # [16:24] <davidb> ok I think bug 705404 sounds like a couple of bugs
  190. # [16:24] <davidb> "mac tree invalidation is broken" + "separate tree"
  191. # [16:25] <davidb> if "separate tree" is for perf/cleanliness
  192. # [16:25] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I'd probably prefer it as several patches, but I don't really care about the number of bugs
  193. # [16:26] <davidb> i don't mind either as long as i can grok the ideas
  194. # [16:26] <@MarcoZ> Hi hub!
  195. # [16:26] <davidb> tbsaunde: multiple bugs can be extremely useful for triage, especially for branch merges, back outs, approvals etc.
  196. # [16:27] <davidb> if you glom them all together you are toast
  197. # [16:27] <davidb> per patch status and approval helps though
  198. # [16:27] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I'd expect several patches for the same bug would do the same
  199. # [16:28] <@hub> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/try-builds/hfiguiere@mozilla.com-8ebd0d96a4e9/try-macosx64/firefox-11.0a1.en-US.mac.dmg
  200. # [16:28] <@hub> this build *should* have a11y enabled
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  202. # [16:28] <@hub> on Mac
  203. # [16:28] <davidb> hub: is that for MarcoZ?
  204. # [16:28] <@hub> MarcoZ: if you want to give it a try.
  205. # [16:29] <@hub> sorry it took me so long.
  206. # [16:29] <@hub> I haven't tried it
  207. # [16:29] <@tbsaunde> davidb: but I tend to avoid bugzilla when possible and generally look at it as a very complicated way to review patches / have others review them
  208. # [16:29] <@MarcoZ> hub: No worries, I'll give this a try right after the meeting!
  209. # [16:30] <davidb> tbsaunde: haha! well my point was meant to be about the way release drivers work, with bug status, whiteboards etc.
  210. # [16:30] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I gues, it seems like what they do should work as well either way, but I've never been one so shrug
  211. # [16:31] <davidb> tbsaunde: do you have dial in info for our vidyo room?
  212. # [16:31] * @tbsaunde actually wants the all patches are sent to an ml approach
  213. # [16:31] <@tbsaunde> davidb: no?
  214. # [16:31] <davidb> it is the same up to after you do 92
  215. # [16:31] <@tbsaunde> well, I gues I could dig through logs
  216. # [16:31] <davidb> then you do 99369
  217. # [16:32] <@tbsaunde> davidb: uh, I don't usually do 92?
  218. # [16:32] <davidb> haha ok 1 sec
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  220. # [16:32] <davidb> i'm pm ya
  221. # [16:33] <davidb> all we're trying vidyo today.
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  223. # [16:34] <eeejay_mac> yo
  224. # [16:34] <davidb> heyo
  225. # [16:34] <@hub> I was wonder how eeejay would do
  226. # [16:35] <davidb> fwiw I'm in the room
  227. # [16:35] <@hub> coming
  228. # [16:36] <@hub> remember. it requires me to enable flash and then to type my login / password
  229. # [16:37] <davidb> yeah :(
  230. # [16:37] <@hub> I can't wait for WebRTC
  231. # [16:37] <eeejay_mac> what is the room?
  232. # [16:37] <@hub> accessibility
  233. # [16:37] <@hub> that's the name of the room
  234. # [16:37] <davidb> yep
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  236. # [16:39] <davidb> surkov: join the party
  237. # [16:39] <@surkov> ok
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  239. # [16:47] <davidb> tbsaunde: ping me when can
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  242. # [16:55] <@surkov> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/OpenATCollaborationProject
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  244. # [17:32] <davidb> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/Planning
  245. # [17:32] <@surkov> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/2012CorePicture
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  247. # [17:39] <eeejay_mac> hm, looks like i would need to sign up to yammer with my mozilla mail
  248. # [17:39] <eeejay_mac> next time
  249. # [17:39] <davidb> yeah
  250. # [17:39] <eeejay_mac> bbiab
  251. # [17:40] * @MarcoZ downloads the try build to his Mac.
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  255. # [17:44] <davidb> surkov: http://people.mozilla.com/~dbolter/svg-checkbox-test.html
  256. # [17:45] <davidb> mildly related to birtles f?
  257. # [17:46] <davidb> we can have accessible objects from svg elements
  258. # [17:50] <@surkov> davidb: oh, yeah, because of aria magic
  259. # [17:50] <@surkov> davidb: so that bug could affect us, you're right
  260. # [17:50] <davidb> if someone puts <filter role="checkbox"> i'll hit them :)
  261. # [17:51] <davidb> but it shouldn't affect us in a terrible way, we can fix any weirdness as we find it
  262. # [17:51] <@surkov> davidb: wanna comment?
  263. # [17:51] <davidb> sure
  264. # [17:51] <@surkov> thanks!
  265. # [17:51] <davidb> np
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  267. # [17:51] <@surkov> but that could be terrible way though, we need testing
  268. # [17:51] <davidb> surkov: I already f+'ed by the way.
  269. # [17:51] <@surkov> but I don't know svg
  270. # [17:52] <@surkov> but I don't know svg
  271. # [17:52] <@MarcoZ> hub: Does the try-server build contain the patch for bug 703770? Because VoiceOver still doesn't read roles for me.
  272. # [17:52] <firewolfbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=703770 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, Mac Accessibility Verifier errors
  273. # [17:53] <@MarcoZ> hub: other than that, I see content! Lots of content! Not all of what I'd expect, and I have a feeling navigation gets still stuck, but this is much better than it was before.
  274. # [17:54] <@hub> MarcoZ: I'm not sure 703770 is dealing with that either
  275. # [17:54] <@MarcoZ> hub: Performance is decent, I only get an initial delay when the page is first loaded, of about 30 seconds. After that, performance is good, with navigation from object to object taking about half a second to a second. Not as instant as with Safari, but also not bad considering this is the first build!
  276. # [17:54] <@MarcoZ> hub: Ah OK!
  277. # [17:55] <@MarcoZ> hub: I do get roles spoken in web content, like textbox, list box etc., but in dialogs such as the Preferences window, no roles are spoken at all.
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  280. # [17:56] <@hub> yeah the preference dialog is not really accessible
  281. # [17:57] <@hub> MarcoZ: I think we have a bug for that.
  282. # [17:57] <@hub> if not I'll make sure there is one
  283. # [17:57] <@hub> bug 703770 has a patch in that build
  284. # [17:59] <@MarcoZ> hub: Yes for the roles we have bug 499927, and for some of the missing text we have bug 499931.
  285. # [17:59] <firewolfbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=499927 maj, --, ---, hub, NEW, VoiceOver not speaking most accessible roles of UI and web page elements
  286. # [17:59] <firewolfbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=499931 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, VoiceOver skips over plain text on pages, also not visible in object chooser menu
  287. # [17:59] <@hub> good
  288. # [17:59] <@hub> I'll add these to my plate
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  293. # [18:13] <davidb> MarcoZ: bug 653226 discusses different options. do you have an opinion?
  294. # [18:13] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653226 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Improve keyboard accessibility of type="menu-button" buttons
  295. # [18:16] <@MarcoZ> davidb: I am following that bug, so if I haven't voiced them, I probably haven't. :)
  296. # [18:16] * @MarcoZ is actually on Yammer, having remembered the password after all, and is utterly confused by the site.
  297. # [18:20] <davidb> oh man
  298. # [18:20] <davidb> i have to unblock uaig
  299. # [18:20] <@MarcoZ> Yeah I currently can't even figure out where to go with the V Cursor to post an update.
  300. # [18:21] <@MarcoZ> uaig?
  301. # [18:21] <davidb> user agent implementation guide
  302. # [18:21] <davidb> i need to fix 5 'bugs' by friday
  303. # [18:21] <davidb> due to people taking vacation etc.
  304. # [18:21] <davidb> otherwise CR schedule is impacted
  305. # [18:21] <@hub> ouch
  306. # [18:21] <davidb> (community review?)
  307. # [18:22] <davidb> s'ok they aren't hard, just eats into my hack time :(
  308. # [18:22] * davidb gets busy
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  310. # [18:27] * @MarcoZ gives up on Yammer for now. No way for me to post a status update. Mouse tracking to where I think I need to click doesn't work, other stuff utterly confusing. Crap crap crap!
  311. # [18:31] <@tbsaunde> surkov: if nsAccessNode has a private copy constructor shouldn't that protect all the things that inherit from it (re bug 539694)
  312. # [18:31] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=539694 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, accessible objects should have private copy constructor
  313. # [18:32] <@surkov> tbsaunde: for inheritance is used public constructor that each class provides, isn't it?
  314. # [18:32] <@surkov> sorry, not in english: public constructor is used for inheritance :)
  315. # [18:33] <@surkov> I'm sleeping actually
  316. # [18:33] <@surkov> tbsaunde, it should do a trick I think, can you check it please?
  317. # [18:36] <@tbsaunde> surkov: not right now, but I can and will comment in the bug
  318. # [18:36] <davidb> MarcoZ: @yammer
  319. # [18:36] <davidb> you could ask them
  320. # [18:40] <@surkov> tbsaunde: thanks!
  321. # [18:42] <@tbsaunde> yw
  322. # [18:43] <@tbsaunde> its better thank thinking about the patch I just saw adding module_semaphore_count_get() :/
  323. # [18:49] <@MarcoZ> davidb: I will definitely do that!
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  327. # [19:07] <@MarcoZ> davidb_: I tweeted them. Let's see if they respond.
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  334. # [19:42] <davidb> mail seems mostly back
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  336. # [19:45] <davidb> for some definition of mostly
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  346. # [19:57] <@davidb> ah there he is
  347. # [19:57] <@davidb> hub: i'm finding a phone room
  348. # [19:57] <@hub> yeah apparently xchat didn't reconnect
  349. # [19:57] <@davidb> is now good?
  350. # [19:57] <@hub> *sigh*
  351. # [19:57] <@hub> yeah we can do it now
  352. # [19:57] <@hub> let me login
  353. # [19:57] <@davidb> great
  354. # [19:58] <@davidb> i'm in the a11y room
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  361. # [21:29] <firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 689847 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  362. # [21:29] <firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 689847 to FIXED.
  363. # [21:29] <firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 689847 from --- to mozilla11.
  364. # [21:29] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=689847 nor, --, mozilla11, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, Expose active state on current item of selectable widgets
  365. # [21:30] <firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 706369 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  366. # [21:30] <firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 706369 to FIXED.
  367. # [21:30] <firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 706369 from --- to mozilla11.
  368. # [21:30] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=706369 nor, --, mozilla11, jigneshhk1992, RESO FIXED, don't use nsIContent::GetChildAt to iterate through children
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  370. # [21:44] <firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 579793 on bug 455443.
  371. # [21:44] <firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested checkin from the wind for attachment 579793 on bug 455443.
  372. # [21:44] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455443 nor, --, ---, hub, ASSI, cache the parent for the accessibilityAttributeValue(NSAccessibilityParentAttribute)
  373. # [22:31] <firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 579814 on bug 707852.
  374. # [22:31] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707852 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, [mac] remove the Objective-C wrapper
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  379. # [22:54] <firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 579821 on bug 703770.
  380. # [22:54] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=703770 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, Mac Accessibility Verifier errors
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  382. # [23:28] <eeejay> anyone manage to recieve mail via zimbra?
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  386. # [23:36] <@hub> eeejay: webmail only
  387. # [23:36] <@hub> eeejay: the rest is still down
  388. # [23:36] <eeejay> hub, yeah. but are you getting stuff in your webmail inbox? i sent something to myself via an external account and it does not arrive
  389. # [23:37] <@hub> I haven't checked
  390. # [23:37] <eeejay> they say there is still a queue it is struggling through
  391. # [23:37] <@hub> not sure of the backlog
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  393. # Session Close: Thu Dec 08 00:00:00 2011

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