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- # Session Start: Tue Dec 13 00:00:00 2011
- # Session Ident: #accessibility
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- # [00:53] <@eeejay> the text interface is really buggy
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- # [01:28] <@tbsaunde|afk> eeejay: volunteering to fix it ;)
- # [01:28] <@eeejay> tbsaunde|afk, doing my best!
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- # [03:37] <@tbsaunde|afk> eeejay: so, what isthestatus of the traversal stuff?
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- # [06:47] <firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 710125 filed by m_kato@ga2.so-net.ne.jp.
- # [06:47] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710125 nor, --, ---, m_kato, NEW, Reduce LoadLibray/GetProcAddress for user32.dll and oleacc.dll on a11y
- # [07:22] <firebot> m_kato@ga2.so-net.ne.jp requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 581187 on bug 710125.
- # [07:22] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710125 nor, --, ---, m_kato, NEW, Reduce LoadLibray/GetProcAddress for user32.dll and oleacc.dll on a11y
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- # [09:04] <firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com requested review from roc@ocallahan.org for attachment 581187 on bug 710125.
- # [09:04] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710125 nor, --, ---, m_kato, NEW, Reduce LoadLibray/GetProcAddress for user32.dll and oleacc.dll on a11y
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- # [09:22] <jhk_> tbsaunde : ping
- # [09:25] <@tbsaunde> jhk_: yo
- # [09:27] <jhk_> I think I will have to go through all the files one bye and compile it. there are lots of issues coming up while modifying role like.
- # [09:28] <@tbsaunde> jhk_: yeah, :(
- # [09:29] <@tbsaunde> its kind of tidious but I'm not aware of anything better
- # [09:31] <jhk_> tbsaunde : I will look at that side by side . right now Bug 539694 . can we keep same constructor definition in the private
- # [09:31] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=539694 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, accessible objects should have private copy constructor
- # [09:31] <@tbsaunde> jhk_: I'm not sure I understand
- # [09:43] <firebot> roc@ocallahan.org granted review for attachment 581187 on bug 710125.
- # [09:43] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710125 nor, --, ---, m_kato, NEW, Reduce LoadLibray/GetProcAddress for user32.dll and oleacc.dll on a11y
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- # [10:42] <firebot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 581202 on bug 539694.
- # [10:42] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=539694 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, accessible objects should have private copy constructor
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- # [10:47] <firebot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 581202 on bug 539694.
- # [10:47] <firebot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 581205 on bug 539694.
- # [11:03] <firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 581205 on bug 539694.
- # [11:04] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=539694 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, accessible objects should have private copy constructor
- # [11:06] <@tbsaunde> jhk_: how is fixing the role stuff?
- # [11:08] <jhk_> tbsaunde: doing it . lots of files.:)
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- # [11:34] <firebot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 581211 on bug 539694.
- # [11:35] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=539694 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, accessible objects should have private copy constructor
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- # [11:46] <@tbsaunde> jhk_: since its the same patch no need for review
- # [11:47] <jhk_> ok
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- # [11:54] <firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 581211 on bug 539694.
- # [11:54] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=539694 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, accessible objects should have private copy constructor
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- # [12:39] <firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gmail.com for attachment 580908 on bug 591363.
- # [12:39] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591363 nor, --, ---, bolterbugz, NEW, (in)visible state is not always correct?
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- # [14:58] <firebot> New Firefox - Keyboard Navigation bug 710195 filed by bj@herbison.com.
- # [14:58] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710195 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Control-T and control-N do not work after clicking "Try again" from connection timeout
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- # [15:34] <firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 707852 from NEW to RESOLVED.
- # [15:34] <firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 707852 to FIXED.
- # [15:34] <firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Target Milestone on bug 707852 from --- to mozilla11.
- # [15:34] <firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk denied in-testsuite on bug 707852.
- # [15:34] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707852 nor, --, mozilla11, hub, RESO FIXED, [mac] remove the Objective-C wrapper
- # [15:34] <firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk granted checkin for attachment 580494 on bug 707852.
- # [15:47] <@tbsaunde> davidb: want to review bug 710125? (seems your marco, but he's not around) might be better than me
- # [15:47] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710125 nor, --, ---, m_kato, NEW, Reduce LoadLibray/GetProcAddress for user32.dll and oleacc.dll on a11y
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- # [16:31] <Stevef> davidb: you around?
- # [16:37] <@davidb> Stevef: hi!
- # [16:38] <@davidb> Stevef: trying to catch up. Lots of chaos in spec world.
- # [16:38] <Stevef> davidb: would like to get your input on this at some point http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Dec/0077.html
- # [16:39] <Stevef> davidb: as in feedback to the list
- # [16:42] <Stevef> davidb: hixie appears to be suggesting that if title is mapped in a manner inconsistent with what he has specified the browsers need to change "If browsers map it in a manner inconsistent with its meaning, that
- # [16:42] <Stevef> should be fixed."
- # [16:42] <@davidb> Stevef: what is "its meaning" supposed to be?
- # [16:43] <@davidb> we're not going to regress a11y on a whim.
- # [16:43] <Stevef> davidb: its pretty wishy washy
- # [16:43] <@davidb> perfect
- # [16:44] <Stevef> please read the bug to get the issue https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14740
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- # [16:49] <Stevef> davidb: if you could email the list stating what mozilla intends to do whatever that may be , it would be useful
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- # [16:49] <@davidb> Stevef: this is how I plan to respond "I don't imagine we (Mozilla) will stop using the title attribute value as a last resort in attempting to provide an accessible name, that would regress accessibility."
- # [16:49] <@davidb> ok?
- # [16:51] <@davidb> sending...
- # [16:51] <Stevef> davidb: 'last resort' sounds kinda desperate, but ok
- # [16:52] <@davidb> too late :)
- # [16:53] <Stevef> davidb: thanks
- # [16:53] <@davidb> np
- # [16:53] <@davidb> Stevef: what's going on with Rich, canvas, and HTML chairs?
- # [16:53] <Stevef> davidb: did you read richs email?
- # [16:53] <@davidb> I did.
- # [16:54] <@davidb> But the current status of things is unclear.
- # [16:54] <Stevef> in what way?
- # [16:54] <@davidb> Is there an alternate proposal?
- # [16:55] <Stevef> to provide the accessibility stuff that richs speccing did?
- # [16:55] <Stevef> no
- # [16:55] <Stevef> its back to rpoving to hixie that use cases exist
- # [16:56] <@davidb> Stevef: what if we just implement it and not worry about specs?
- # [16:56] <@davidb> this spec stuff is sapping us
- # [16:57] <Stevef> if you just implement what was specced and proposed by rich and charles pricthard etc
- # [16:58] <Stevef> ?
- # [16:58] <@davidb> yes, in theory.
- # [16:58] <@davidb> we'll land stuff in steps anyways.
- # [16:59] <Stevef> sam has requested this "Can we get a simple statement from Mozilla? All it needs to state is that they intend to implement whatever the 2D Canvas API might contain for a focus ring API in the W3C spec? We are not looking for a commitment as to timeframes. We are simply looking for a statement of intent at this point."
- # [16:59] <Stevef> is that somthing you can provide in theory?
- # [17:00] <@davidb> Stevef: I've pinged Jonas on that request, so that we can be on the same page.
- # [17:00] <Stevef> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Dec/0087.html
- # [17:00] <@davidb> Hopefully we'll have something to say soonish.
- # [17:00] <@davidb> yeah I read it
- # [17:00] <Stevef> no worries
- # [17:01] <Stevef> all i know is rich is pretty pissed at the whole thing
- # [17:01] <Stevef> and sick of being jerked around
- # [17:01] <@davidb> yeah, not a great way to start his holiday
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- # [17:15] <Stevef> davidb: follow up question sent your way...
- # [17:17] <Stevef> hhillen: hi HANSome you follwoing me?
- # [17:18] <Stevef> again
- # [17:18] <hhillen> Stevef: Just making sure you behave
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- # [17:44] <Stevef> davidb: response sent your way...
- # [17:45] <@davidb> got it - it is a good response
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- # [17:50] <@davidb> Stevef: do you want a reply?
- # [17:51] <@davidb> I don't have a substantive reply.
- # [17:53] <Stevef> just say uncle :-)
- # [17:54] <@davidb> hahaha
- # [17:55] <@davidb> Stevef: well, in the case of Firefox, aria-label will just fill in a11y API. no changes needed on the part of AT.
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- # [17:56] <Stevef> yes true once browsers catch up it twill be good
- # [17:57] <@davidb> Stevef: are you joining the call in 9 minutes?
- # [17:57] <@davidb> oh!
- # [17:58] <@davidb> in 3 hrs 9 minutes
- # [17:58] <Stevef> call? no I am joining the call in 3 hrs and 9 mins
- # [17:58] <@davidb> Stevef: that's what i said :)
- # [17:59] <Stevef> yeah catch you then have to go and pick my kids up
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- # [18:21] <@eeejay> morning, peeps
- # [18:23] <@davidb> yo
- # [18:28] * @eeejay is hunting text iface bugs
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- # [19:47] <@tbsaunde> eeejay: so, what's happening with bug 698823? should I being doing something?
- # [19:48] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=698823 nor, --, mozilla10, eitan, NEW, Introduce virtual cursor/soft focus functionality to a11y API
- # [19:48] <@eeejay> tbsaunde, nope. the API is pretty much down
- # [19:48] <@tbsaunde> eeejay: ack
- # [19:49] <@eeejay> tbsaunde, i am stuck with implementation issues because of the text iface,
- # [19:49] <@eeejay> tbsaunde, there will be plenty of reviewing soon
- # [19:49] <@tbsaunde> eeejay: ok
- # [19:49] <@eeejay> can't make any promises about when. it might be worth not implementing the text traversal in the first patch set
- # [19:49] <@tbsaunde> eeejay: what does issues in the text interfaces effect implenting that stuff?
- # [19:50] <@eeejay> tbsaunde, there is text navigation functionality in the API that i am implementing
- # [19:50] <@tbsaunde> eeejay: ok
- # [19:50] <@tbsaunde> I guess the patches will make it clearer
- # [19:51] <@tbsaunde> but it seems like that patch set could just use the api supposing it were correct
- # [19:51] <@tbsaunde> ofcourse it wouldn't end up working correctly till we fix the text interfaces, but...
- # [19:52] <@eeejay> tbsaunde, yeah. i would say it is worth putting in no-op functions instead of putting in something explicitly broken.
- # [19:52] <@tbsaunde> eeejay: I wouldn't call them broken if there correct but an api they use is buggy
- # [19:53] <@davidb> agree
- # [19:53] <@tbsaunde> useless perhaps, and perhaps because of that its not worth writing yet
- # [19:54] <@eeejay> yeah
- # [19:58] <@tbsaunde> hub: thoughts on my last comment on bug 705404 (warning was written when at < 100% and I'm still at < 100%)
- # [19:58] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=705404 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, build separate accessible tree on mac
- # [19:59] <@hub> tbsaunde: I just commented before you asked
- # [20:00] <@hub> tbsaunde: and this imply I'm gonna update the patch
- # [20:00] <@tbsaunde> hub: ok, cool
- # [20:00] <@davidb> guys, anything you want to say in the dev meeting?
- # [20:01] <@hub> "Hi"
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- # [20:06] <@tbsaunde> davidb: so your not taking me up on my offer to let you review bug 710125?
- # [20:06] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710125 nor, --, ---, m_kato, NEW, Reduce LoadLibray/GetProcAddress for user32.dll and oleacc.dll on a11y
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- # [20:07] <@davidb> hub: :)
- # [20:07] <@davidb> tbsaunde: i hadn't noticed it yet
- # [20:08] * @davidb is in the meeting
- # [20:09] <@tbsaunde> davidb: yeah, figured you saw my ping early this morning
- # [20:09] <@davidb> tbsaunde: aha, yeah Marco and Alex are not around this week
- # [20:09] <@davidb> tbsaunde: you can twiddle the bits if you want my attention
- # [20:11] <@tbsaunde> silly davidb never says yes I want or no I don't ;-)
- # [20:11] <@davidb> heh
- # [20:11] <@davidb> tbsaunde: sorry - juggling here.
- # [20:11] <@tbsaunde> its cool I figured you wouldn't respond because meeting
- # [20:12] <@eeejay> oops, the meeting
- # [20:13] <@davidb> tbsaunde: loading windows libraries, probably someone from Rob Strong's team should take a look
- # [20:13] <@davidb> "Desktop Integration" team
- # [20:14] <@hub> I think roc already gave the go ahead
- # [20:14] <@hub> oh different rob
- # [20:15] <@tbsaunde> davidb: seems we load the lib always anyway so Idono
- # [20:16] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I'm not sure what that group does, but probably not the first group I'd ask
- # [20:16] <@davidb> ok i'll look at the bug soon
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- # [20:28] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
- # [20:32] <firebot> hub@mozilla.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 581044 on bug 705404.
- # [20:32] <firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 581342 on bug 705404.
- # [20:32] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=705404 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, build separate accessible tree on mac
- # [20:36] <@davidb> ok!
- # [20:36] <@davidb> i have 30 minutes
- # [20:36] <@davidb> (then w3c html5 call)
- # [20:40] <@davidb> lies.
- # [20:40] <@davidb> tbsaunde: that patch looks dangerous?
- # [20:40] * @davidb jumps into a phone call
- # [20:44] <@tbsaunde> davidb: not really sure
- # [20:45] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I sort of think not, but I'm not really the best to judge
- # [20:49] <firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 581342 on bug 705404.
- # [20:49] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=705404 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, build separate accessible tree on mac
- # [20:50] * @tbsaunde considers if he wants to watch the tree
- # [20:51] <@davidb> tbsaunde: inbound
- # [20:51] <khuey> is closed
- # [20:51] <@davidb> khuey: booo
- # [20:51] <@davidb> true
- # [20:52] <@tbsaunde> hub: I you feel like staring I don't particularly object to being around
- # [20:52] <@tbsaunde> *if and
- # [20:54] <@hub> tbsaunde: I can stay around
- # [20:54] <@davidb> tbsaunde: I worry bug 710125 patch might break our dummy window usage
- # [20:54] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710125 nor, --, ---, m_kato, NEW, Reduce LoadLibray/GetProcAddress for user32.dll and oleacc.dll on a11y
- # [20:54] <@tbsaunde> davidb: hmm, maybe didn't think about that
- # [20:55] <@tbsaunde> I don't immediately see why, but didn't really consider that
- # [20:55] <@tbsaunde> hub: and deal with tbpl.mozilla.org?
- # [20:55] <@hub> it depends of what dealing involve
- # [20:55] <@hub> I can push it to a TryServer
- # [20:56] <@tbsaunde> when random test failures happen you blaim them on a bug that caused them
- # [20:56] <@tbsaunde> hub: if it builds on mac that's enough
- # [20:56] <@tbsaunde> and you ran tests locally I'd believe its good
- # [20:57] <@hub> yeah it shouldn't impact anything else
- # [20:57] <@hub> since inbound is closed, I'll push to try just to make sure
- # [20:59] <@tbsaunde> hub: ok, I probably wouldn't bother, but I might just be far to brave :p
- # [21:00] <@tbsaunde> also, in that case I'm going to head out soon and deal with it tonight or something (hopefully the windows stuff will be sorted out then and m-i open)
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- # [21:03] <@tbsaunde> hub: staring usually isn't particularly difficult, when random test failures happen you look at the log and and the list of bugs it suggests and figure out which one is to blaim
- # [21:03] <@tbsaunde> if it doesn't have any suggestions but pretty clearly wasn't you you ask #developers or just ask philer directly :)
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- # [21:19] <@tbsaunde> ok, I'm about to head out for a the afternoon / evening unless someone's going to want something
- # [21:21] <@tbsaunde> davidb: eeejay hub ^
- # [21:21] <@davidb> tbsaunde: have a nice one.
- # [21:21] <@eeejay> tbsaunde, have fun!
- # [21:23] <@tbsaunde> thx
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- # [22:24] <@davidb> clown: what fills your days these days?
- # [22:24] <clown> davidb: a bunch of little gnomes.
- # [22:24] <@davidb> illusionists
- # [22:27] <clown> you?
- # [22:28] <@davidb> clown: today, 6 meetings. but they felt worthwhile.
- # [22:28] <@davidb> sadly.
- # [22:28] <@davidb> now i'm trying to find something i did, a tool, but not finding it
- # [22:28] <@davidb> aha!
- # [22:29] <@davidb> crap
- # [22:34] <clown> you did something?
- # [22:35] <@davidb> naw s'ok i found it
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- # [23:54] <firebot> asa@mozilla.org granted approval-mozilla-aurora for attachment 577543 on bug 706026.
- # [23:54] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=706026 cri, --, mozilla11, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, Crash in nsXULTextFieldAccessible::FrameSelection
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