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  1. # Session Start: Wed Dec 14 00:00:00 2011
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
  3. # [00:00] <firebot> jpr@mozilla.com granted approval-mozilla-aurora for attachment 578278 on bug 706834.
  4. # [00:00] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=706834 cri, --, mozilla11, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, Crash in nsXULTreeAccessible::TreeViewChanged
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  18. # [02:16] <@davidb> !seen Jamie
  19. # [02:16] <firebot> jamie was last seen 6 days, 15 hours, 8 minutes and 58 seconds ago, saying 'this is breaking NVDA's command to get out of embedded objects' in #accessibility.
  20. # [02:34] <firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested checkin from bolterbugz@gmail.c om for attachment 581342 on bug 705404.
  21. # [02:34] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=705404 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, build separate accessible tree on mac
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  29. # [03:54] <@tbsaunde> eeejay: so, are you directly using layout's text stuff, or did you debug your way through stuff to find bug 710389
  30. # [03:54] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710389 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, PeekOffset returns wrong offset for word boundary
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  73. # [14:42] <firebot> bugs@pettay.fi granted review for attachment 580378 on bug 504586.
  74. # [14:42] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=504586 nor, --, ---, masayuki, ASSI, mochitest-plain: docshell/test/navigation/test_bug430723.html fails when test window does not have f
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  86. # [16:11] <@hub> do we have the meeting at 7:30 still?
  87. # [16:18] <@tbsaunde> davidb: ?
  88. # [16:18] <@davidb> tbsaunde: i was leaning yes
  89. # [16:18] <@davidb> what do you guys think?
  90. # [16:21] <@tbsaunde> fine with me
  91. # [16:21] <@tbsaunde> mind giving me the video info? or just send it in the email since we haven't done one yet this week
  92. # [16:23] <@hub> I was just making sure I didn't miss an email
  93. # [16:24] <@hub> since I had been booted off most of the internal list
  94. # [16:26] <@tbsaunde> huh?
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  96. # [16:27] <eeejaylaundry> Hullo
  97. # [16:28] <eeejaylaundry> Are we meeting today?
  98. # [16:30] <@hub> tbsaunde: yeah, with the email server crash, they also lost the internal list from after oct 22nd and they hadn't re-run the cron to update from LDAP
  99. # [16:31] <@hub> eeejaylaundry: so it seems
  100. # [16:32] <@tbsaunde> hub: oic
  101. # [16:33] <@davidb> tbsaunde: sorry! will send
  102. # [16:34] <@davidb> tbsaunde: do you know the dial in info up to the point where you enter a conf number?
  103. # [16:34] <@davidb> at that point you enter 99369
  104. # [16:35] <@tbsaunde> davidb: what is the moco number? sorry
  105. # [16:36] <@tbsaunde> davidb: ^
  106. # [16:36] <@davidb> tbsaunde: the 1 800 one?
  107. # [16:37] <@davidb> tbsaunde: (+1)650-903-0800 then 92 then 99369
  108. # [16:37] <@tbsaunde> davidb: ok, calling
  109. # [16:38] <@davidb> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/Meetings/2011-12-14
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  112. # [16:45] <@davidb> eeejay: we can't hear you
  113. # [16:45] <@davidb> tbsaunde: are you dialled in ?
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  116. # [16:47] <@davidb> tbsaunde: sorry - eeejay jumped in i guess
  117. # [16:51] <@davidb> if nothing else it is nice to hear your voices :)
  118. # [16:51] <@davidb> also another test run of dialling in pain!
  119. # [16:51] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I just don't know man
  120. # [16:52] <@tbsaunde> it loves to hang up right after I give the conf #
  121. # [16:52] <@davidb> hmm
  122. # [16:52] <@davidb> it works well when dialling from a mozilla office
  123. # [16:53] <@davidb> tbsaunde: do you do a pound at the end?
  124. # [16:54] <@tbsaunde> davidb: yes
  125. # [16:54] <@davidb> farglebargle
  126. # [16:55] <@davidb> tbsaunde: well, you should be able to test it out anytime AFAIK
  127. # [16:55] <@davidb> the room should always be available
  128. # [16:56] <@tbsaunde> ok, I might try and find some time to play with ti
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  130. # [16:56] <@davidb> yeah, you should just hear silence if it works.
  131. # [16:57] <@davidb> i just tested it
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  133. # [16:59] <@tbsaunde> ok
  134. # [17:05] <@eeejay> the android vidyo client was a big fail. sorry
  135. # [17:06] <@davidb> eeejay: no need to apologize
  136. # [17:06] <@tbsaunde> hub: have you looked at the ref counting situation on mac much? the little bit I've looked hasn't made me particularly want to trust its correctness
  137. # [17:22] <@hub> in Obj-C? it works fine
  138. # [17:24] <@tbsaunde> hub: I mean where we increase / decrease the refcount of objects
  139. # [17:24] <@tbsaunde> I guess some of its fine if you do it right but is weird for xpcom like GetNativeInterface() not increasing the refcount
  140. # [17:28] <@hub> tbsaunde: the convention with the Mac framework is to not return a instance with a refcount
  141. # [17:28] <@hub> unless it just go allocated
  142. # [17:28] <@hub> it will be held for long enough for the caller to retain it (add ref) if needed
  143. # [17:29] <@hub> tbsaunde: in that specific case, the nsAccessibleWrap hold the reference on the Obj-C mozAccessible
  144. # [17:31] <@tbsaunde> hub: sure, but that's in xpcom method not a mac one
  145. # [17:31] <@tbsaunde> its kind of a mute point since it should go away
  146. # [17:32] <@tbsaunde> hub: I did look at the mac docs some
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  148. # [17:33] <@tbsaunde> its just a little funny when it and xpcom mix since they have very different ways of doing things
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  150. # [17:47] <@hub> tbsaunde: the fact that was return an objective-C object is already not compatible with XPCOM by design
  151. # [18:08] <@eeejay> tbsaunde, my patch doesn't seem to add any regressions to mochitest-a11y
  152. # [18:09] <@eeejay> not sure what the proper regression tests for layout are
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  156. # [18:38] <@tbsaunde> eeejay: ref tests and mochitest-{1,2,3,4,5} I think
  157. # [18:39] <@tbsaunde> eeejay: but hopefully some a11y tests would have started passing too :)
  158. # [18:39] <@eeejay> tbsaunde, they all pass
  159. # [18:39] <@eeejay> except for a getatpoint one
  160. # [18:39] <@eeejay> but it seems unrelated
  161. # [18:39] <@eeejay> gtg
  162. # [18:40] <@eeejay> bbiab
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  170. # [19:30] <@hub> davidb: do we still have the 1:1 at 11?
  171. # [19:30] <@davidb> hub: optional. your call.
  172. # [19:33] <@davidb> hub: if you leave it to me I'll say yes.
  173. # [19:35] <@hub> ok, then we will
  174. # [19:36] <@davidb> roger
  175. # [19:37] <@hub> good thing I try not. update need on this machine :-/
  176. # [19:39] <@davidb> hub: huh
  177. # [19:40] <@hub> it is all good
  178. # [19:40] <@hub> but still
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  180. # [20:05] <hub_> davidb: in the a11y room on Vidyo
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  198. # [21:31] <firebot> mgorse@suse.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 577444 on bug 693343.
  199. # [21:31] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=693343 maj, --, ---, trev.saunders, ASSI, accessibility always disabled in GNOME 3 unless GNOME_ACCESSIBILITY is set
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