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  1. # Session Start: Mon Dec 19 00:00:00 2011
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  28. # [06:23] <firebot> andrew.quartey@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 582744 on bug 634829.
  29. # [06:23] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=634829 nor, --, ---, andrew.quartey, NEW, remove nsIAccessibleWin32Object interface
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  36. # [09:59] <@MarcoZ> Good day all!
  37. # [10:00] <@tbsaunde> mjorning MarcoZ
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  51. # [15:08] <@davidb> hi MarcoZ!
  52. # [15:08] <@davidb> hi all!
  53. # [15:09] <@MarcoZ> Hi davidb!
  54. # [15:10] * @MarcoZ feels he's back in the saddle.
  55. # [15:11] <@tbsaunde> mjorning davidb
  56. # [15:12] <@davidb> MarcoZ: glad to hear it.
  57. # [15:12] <@davidb> hi tbsaunde!
  58. # [15:12] <@davidb> Trevor what do you think about comment 11 on bug 678965?
  59. # [15:12] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=678965 nor, --, ---, bolterbugz, NEW, telemetry for injected screen reader dll's
  60. # [15:14] * @tbsaunde looks
  61. # [15:16] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I don't really object to just sending sMode, but I'm nt sure if telementry has an easy way to make the data we collect useful
  62. # [15:16] <@davidb> I can twist Taras' arm
  63. # [15:17] <@davidb> Also, areweaccessibleyet.com I have plans to use that to build a dashboard of data.
  64. # [15:17] <@davidb> In my 'spare' time.
  65. # [15:17] <@tbsaunde> ok
  66. # [15:17] <@davidb> tbsaunde: if you have no objections, please comment.
  67. # [15:17] <@davidb> (or if you do)
  68. # [15:18] <@tbsaunde> ok, will shortly, are planning to fix it for the merge tomorrow?
  69. # [15:19] <@davidb> no
  70. # [15:19] * @MarcoZ is very happy with the Mac progress.
  71. # [15:19] <@davidb> MarcoZ: that's great to hear
  72. # [15:19] <@MarcoZ> And with the Linux fixes that landed, too!
  73. # [15:19] <@davidb> yay!
  74. # [15:20] <@davidb> if we are firing on all cylinders next year it is going to be rediculous
  75. # [15:20] <@davidb> s/if/when
  76. # [15:20] <@tbsaunde> what linux stuff landed recently?
  77. # [15:20] <@davidb> s/rediculous/awesome
  78. # [15:20] <@davidb> dunno
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  80. # [15:22] * @tbsaunde doesn't think he's reviewed any linux improvements recently
  81. # [15:22] <@davidb> tbsaunde: you are dangerously good at reviews.
  82. # [15:23] <@tbsaunde> oh?
  83. # [15:24] * @tbsaunde thinks he may like reviewing too much for it too be good for him when he has other stuff that needs done :/
  84. # [15:26] <@MarcoZ> davidb: tbsaunde: The stuff that makes Firefox work again with Gnome 3. Or properly under as many circumstances as possible.
  85. # [15:28] <@davidb> tbsaunde: school first.
  86. # [15:28] <@davidb> finish that sucker.
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  89. # [15:29] <@tbsaunde> davidb: yeah, I'm trying but its so uninteresting :/
  90. # [15:30] <@tbsaunde> fortunately only a few things and I'm done forthe break
  91. # [15:31] <@davidb> we'll try to make our patches less interesting.
  92. # [15:31] <@MarcoZ> LOL
  93. # [15:31] <@tbsaunde> :-P
  94. # [15:31] * @davidb smirks
  95. # [15:40] <khuey> yeah I had that problem too
  96. # [15:46] <@davidb> Mozilla does that
  97. # [15:46] <@davidb> save the web… or do my assignment. hmmm
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  100. # [16:01] <khuey> it's an easy choice
  101. # [16:01] <khuey> I hope I passed all my classes this term :-P
  102. # [16:04] <@tbsaunde> khuey: yeah, me too :\
  103. # [16:04] <@tbsaunde> D is for deploma is a depressing way to think :(
  104. # [16:05] <khuey> heh
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  113. # [17:15] <@davidb> heyo
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  116. # [18:04] <khuey> sweet
  117. # [18:04] <khuey> I passed
  118. # [18:05] <@tbsaunde> :D
  119. # [18:07] * @eeejay waves
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  121. # [18:14] <@MarcoZ> khuey: Congratulations!
  122. # [18:14] <@MarcoZ> Hi eeejay, hub!
  123. # [18:14] <khuey> MarcoZ: thanks!
  124. # [18:14] <@tbsaunde> sup eeejay ?
  125. # [18:15] <@eeejay> hey tbsaunde. i'm writing tests (and finding bugs with them), so we will have a mochitest patch soon and a revised impl
  126. # [18:17] <@tbsaunde> eeejay: this is bug 710232?
  127. # [18:17] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710232 is not accessible
  128. # [18:18] <@eeejay> tbsaunde, bug 698823
  129. # [18:18] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=698823 nor, --, mozilla10, eitan, NEW, Introduce virtual cursor/soft focus functionality to a11y API
  130. # [18:18] <@eeejay> tbsaunde, did you see that there are 3 patches there ready for review? I need to recall one of them
  131. # [18:19] <@tbsaunde> eeejay: yeah, sorry I haven'tdone it yet
  132. # [18:20] <@tbsaunde> it seemed like they will take time, and ideally I would have done 0 reviews this past week
  133. # [18:23] <@eeejay> tbsaunde, understood. i'll recall the patch that needs revising, so you don't spend time on it by mistake
  134. # [18:23] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, welcome back!
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  138. # [18:24] <@tbsaunde> eeejay: ok, sounds good
  139. # [18:26] <firebot> eitan@monotonous.org cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 581824 on bug 698823.
  140. # [18:26] <firebot> eitan@monotonous.org cancelled superreview?(jonas@sicking. cc) for attachment 581824 on bug 698823.
  141. # [18:44] <@davidb> khuey: congrats!
  142. # [18:47] <khuey> thanks!
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  148. # [19:17] <@MarcoZ> davidb|mtg: You mean because we're so proactive with crashes that get reported? ;-)
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  150. # [19:17] <@davidb|mtg> heheh
  151. # [19:17] <@davidb|mtg> no, I want some tools to pull out common modules etc.
  152. # [19:18] <@davidb|mtg> to help us understand what instantiates a11y.
  153. # [19:18] <@davidb|mtg> doing it manually is hard.
  154. # [19:18] * @MarcoZ nods.
  155. # [19:21] <@davidb|mtg> FYI email seems to be down. IT is on it.
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  158. # [19:27] <@hub> back
  159. # [19:28] <@davidb|mtg> heyo
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  161. # [19:36] <@MarcoZ> davidb|mtg: Noooo, not again!
  162. # [19:36] <@davidb|mtg> well, not down so much as not delivering new mail for the last hour or so.
  163. # [19:36] <@hub> again?
  164. # [19:38] <khuey> mail isn't important
  165. # [19:38] <khuey> just send up your smoke signals
  166. # [19:38] <@hub> can bugzilla send smoke signals?
  167. # [19:38] <khuey> if you set it on fire it probably can
  168. # [19:39] <@hub> ouch
  169. # [19:40] <@MarcoZ> Yeah, let's make Bugzilla send bug updates to Twitter as mentions instead of e-mail. :D
  170. # [19:41] <@hub> or pidgeons
  171. # [19:43] * davidb|mtg is now known as davidb
  172. # [19:44] <@davidb> just ask an ent to pass a message along
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  174. # [20:01] <@MarcoZ> I'm once again glad I don't use Bugzilla mail on my MoCo account. :)
  175. # [20:02] <@davidb> same
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  184. # [20:18] <firebot> New Firefox - Disability Access bug 712064 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
  185. # [20:18] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712064 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash nsTextAttrsMgr::GetAttributes
  186. # [20:19] <firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com changed the Component on bug 712064 from Disability Access to Disability Access APIs.
  187. # [20:19] <firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com changed the Product on bug 712064 from Firefox to Core.
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  189. # [20:24] <firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 582889 on bug 698823.
  190. # [20:24] <firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested superreview from jonas@sicking. cc for attachment 582889 on bug 698823.
  191. # [20:24] <firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=698823 nor, --, mozilla10, eitan, NEW, Introduce virtual cursor/soft focus functionality to a11y API
  192. # [20:29] <firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 582894 on bug 698823.
  193. # [20:29] <@MarcoZ> And with that crasher I leave you guys alone. :D See you all tomorrow!
  194. # [20:29] <@davidb> wait!
  195. # [20:29] <@davidb> crasher?
  196. # [20:29] <@davidb> oh
  197. # [20:30] <@davidb> ok good night :)
  198. # [20:31] <@eeejay> bbiab
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  201. # [20:35] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Yup all on file already.
  202. # [20:35] <@davidb> yep thanks
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  204. # [21:12] <@tbsaunde> man, reading some of our old code can be saddly hilarious
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  208. # [21:50] <@davidb> tbsaunde: haha - file bugs
  209. # [22:00] <@hub> tbsaunde: it is even more hilkarious when you read that old code you wrote a decade ago.
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  215. # [22:19] <@davidb> hub: yeah, i wrote some pretty odd thread code right out of school.
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