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  1. # Session Start: Fri Jan 06 00:00:00 2012
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  6. # [00:24] <@tbsaunde> heh
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  16. # [03:45] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 586307 on bug 714976.
  17. # [03:45] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=714976 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, [mac] the Role description for the web content is AXWebArea instead of "HTML Content"
  18. # [04:08] <@tbsaunde> hub: so, I could probably be talked into taking that patch, but I'm pretty sure Alex would not be at all happy about making the string bundle public
  19. # [04:09] <@tbsaunde> if you want to take that path I'd say add an accessor
  20. # [04:09] <@hub> I can do that
  21. # [04:10] <@tbsaunde> also, minor nit blank line after braces
  22. # [04:10] <@tbsaunde> I'd consider asserting the string bundle is non-null too, but up to you
  23. # [04:12] <@tbsaunde> hub: does return GetLocalized() ? : @"html content"; work somehow that I'm missing? or is that a mistake
  24. # [04:13] <@hub> a ? : b return a if a is true
  25. # [04:13] <@hub> b if false
  26. # [04:13] <@tbsaunde> that works?
  27. # [04:13] <@hub> yep
  28. # [04:14] <@tbsaunde> interesting!
  29. # [04:14] <@hub> I had a different string here to make sure
  30. # [04:21] <@tbsaunde> hub: yeah, I just wrote a test program
  31. # [04:21] <@tbsaunde> hub: one more thing, sorry strings you declare on the stack should be nsAuto[C]String
  32. # [04:22] <@hub> should they? I'll fix that too
  33. # [04:22] <@tbsaunde> yes
  34. # [04:23] <@tbsaunde> I can find you a bug discussion if your interested, but the short answer is nsAutoFoo usually has a preallocated buffer of I believe 64 chars in the case of strings
  35. # [04:24] <khuey> well, that depends
  36. # [04:24] <khuey> if you're going to build a string on the stack then nsAutoString is the way to go
  37. # [04:25] <khuey> if you're going to call an XPCOM getter with it then you're going to end up sharing the heap buffer and wasting the stack space
  38. # [04:26] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 580908 on bug 591363.
  39. # [04:26] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591363 nor, --, ---, bolterbugz, NEW, (in)visible state is not always correct?
  40. # [04:26] <@hub> ok, I'll check before making the change
  41. # [04:26] <@hub> must go home now
  42. # [04:26] <@hub> c-ya
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  44. # [04:26] <@tbsaunde> khuey: interesting
  45. # [04:27] <khuey> tbsaunde: like most things in Mozilla, the right thing to do is far more complicated than it might seem ;-)
  46. # [04:27] <@tbsaunde> khuey: on the other hand stack space is cheap and the chances we'll call into js or something that will extend the stack is vanishingly small
  47. # [04:28] <@tbsaunde> true
  48. # [04:28] <@tbsaunde> although maybe s/mozilla/C++/ or maybe any large software system
  49. # [04:28] <khuey> yeah
  50. # [04:29] <@tbsaunde> khuey: what about getter copies? its getting a string out of the string bundle
  51. # [04:30] <khuey> I'm not familiar with getter copies
  52. # [04:31] <@tbsaunde> ok, me niether
  53. # [04:32] <@tbsaunde> I gt the impression though that using xpcom to access l1on in C++ is massive over kill
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  60. # [05:52] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 708692 from Disability Access to Disability Access APIs.
  61. # [05:52] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com changed the Product on bug 708692 from Thunderbird to Core.
  62. # [05:52] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708692 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Thunderbird is flooding ATs with object:property-change:accessible-name events upon launch
  63. # [05:54] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 708692 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  64. # [05:54] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 708692 to WORKSFORME.
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  74. # [09:51] <@MarcoZ> Hub: Hi! Great progress on bug 714976!
  75. # [09:51] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=714976 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, [mac] the Role description for the web content is AXWebArea instead of "HTML Content"
  76. # [09:54] <@hub> MarcoZ: I have the heading bug in the pipe as well
  77. # [09:54] <@hub> :-)
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  85. # [12:45] <@firebot> scoobidiver@netcourrier.com changed the Status on bug 712971 from UNCONFIRMED to NEW.
  86. # [12:45] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712971 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Crash @ nsCoreUtils::GetID using JAWS
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  88. # [13:25] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 715857 filed by dao@mozilla.com.
  89. # [13:25] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=715857 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Disable a11y tests that put <tabbrowser> in random XUL documents and expect it to work
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  94. # [13:37] <@firebot> dao@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 715857 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  95. # [13:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=715857 nor, --, ---, dao, ASSI, Disable a11y tests that put <tabbrowser> in random XUL documents and expect it to work
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  106. # [15:24] <askalski> hi
  107. # [15:24] <askalski> anyone?
  108. # [15:25] <askalski> tbsaunde: newbie question, got a minute?
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  111. # [15:28] <@tbsaunde> askalski: yeah
  112. # [15:33] <askalski> tbsaunde: how to make Nightly act as if there was no Firefox insalled in system? It's annoying while it checks all the personal settings etc
  113. # [15:33] <askalski> tbsaunde, : I want to sandbox debug runs
  114. # [15:34] <askalski> tbsaunde, : linux, eclipse
  115. # [15:35] <@tbsaunde> you mean not use your normal profile / settings?
  116. # [15:36] <@MarcoZ> Hi askalski!
  117. # [15:36] <askalski> Hi MarcoZ
  118. # [15:36] <askalski> tbsaunde: yes, that's what I mean
  119. # [15:36] <askalski> tbsaunde : clear start, or some other settings folder
  120. # [15:36] <@tbsaunde> askalski: debug builds are general pretty slow imo anyway so...
  121. # [15:37] <@tbsaunde> askalski: you can pass -P profile name
  122. # [15:37] <askalski> tbsaunde: yes, but I have sensitive data in stable build
  123. # [15:37] <@tbsaunde> and -P with no arg ges you the thing to create new profiles
  124. # [15:37] <@tbsaunde> askalski: fair enough
  125. # [15:37] <askalski> tbsaunde: ok, that I'll try
  126. # [15:38] * @tbsaunde uses his normal profile with local builds, though this might just be that I'm a fool :p
  127. # [15:40] <@tbsaunde> askalski: of course I suppse you could just $HOME to be something else too though not sure what other effects that might have
  128. # [15:40] <@tbsaunde> *suppose
  129. # [15:43] <askalski> tbsaunde, : that's a good point
  130. # [15:51] <askalski> i'm going now, bye
  131. # [15:52] <@tbsaunde> see yo
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  144. # [18:16] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 586307 on bug 714976.
  145. # [18:16] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=714976 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, [mac] the Role description for the web content is AXWebArea instead of "HTML Content"
  146. # [18:17] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 586454 on bug 714976.
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  160. # [19:59] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 584154 on bug 673689.
  161. # [19:59] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=673689 nor, --, ---, jigneshhk1992, NEW, introduce namespace role
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  163. # [20:22] <@firebot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 586488 on bug 673689.
  164. # [20:22] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=673689 nor, --, ---, jigneshhk1992, NEW, introduce namespace role
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  171. # [21:51] <@firebot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 586488 on bug 673689.
  172. # [21:51] <@firebot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 586524 on bug 673689.
  173. # [21:51] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=673689 nor, --, ---, jigneshhk1992, NEW, introduce namespace role
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  181. # [23:09] <@tbsaunde> hub: have you checked caching the string bundle works with dynamic language changes?
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  183. # [23:11] <@hub> tbsaunde: I no longer cache
  184. # [23:11] <@tbsaunde> ok, I must have the wrong patch oepn then somehow :|
  185. # [23:15] <@tbsaunde> hub: I meant caching using nsAccessNode::gStringBundle, not the indivual string
  186. # [23:17] <@tbsaunde> hub: I'd expect that the bundle changes when you change what language is in use, but I gues not?
  187. # [23:18] <@hub> to be honest, I tried to setup a language pack, but couldn't
  188. # [23:21] <@tbsaunde> ok, fair enough
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  190. # [23:24] <@hub> but then if it does not work, the concern is more general, and not Mac specific anymore :-)
  191. # [23:27] <@tbsaunde> true
  192. # [23:31] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 586454 on bug 714976.
  193. # [23:31] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=714976 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, [mac] the Role description for the web content is AXWebArea instead of "HTML Content"
  194. # [23:31] <@tbsaunde> hub: on the other the mac layer should almost certainly stop caching the role
  195. # [23:37] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 586044 on bug 713792.
  196. # [23:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=713792 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, stop QueryInterface()ing to nsIAccessibleImage internally
  197. # [23:53] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 716091 filed by trev.saunders@gmail.com.
  198. # [23:53] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=716091 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, mac platform layer's cache of the role can get out of date
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