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- # [10:33] <@MarcoZ> Hi all!
- # [10:33] <@MarcoZ> tbsaunde: Hi! Is the projects/accessibility branch at a current stateß I noticed you pushed some of the patches there.
- # [10:35] <@tbsaunde> MarcoZ: not sure what your asking
- # [10:36] <@MarcoZ> tbsaunde: Did you update the accessibility branch with latest code before pushing those patches there?
- # [10:36] <@tbsaunde> I wanted some place to test the work around for 693343 that wouldn't effect other people
- # [10:36] <@MarcoZ> I mean did you do a merge from central?
- # [10:36] <@tbsaunde> MarcoZ: yes, I pushed m-c there first
- # [10:36] <@MarcoZ> tbsaunde: Cool thanks!
- # [10:37] <@tbsaunde> I didn't need to merge, it was a fast forward
- # [10:37] * @MarcoZ nods.
- # [10:37] <@tbsaunde> yw
- # [10:37] <@tbsaunde> basically once I had one patch there that I needed to merge I figured I'd just push the rest of the stuff I need to land
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- # [13:01] <Stevef> morning all
- # [13:02] <Stevef> is there any resource that provides roadmap of planned html5 feature implementation? specifically looking for info on details/summary elements
- # [13:04] <Stevef> checked bugzilla but found nothing
- # [13:08] <@MarcoZ> Stevef: Your best bet is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=568516&hide_resolved=1
- # [13:09] <@MarcoZ> Stevef: As soon as an element is implemented in our layout engine, we get pinged so we can provide proper accessibility support for it. So first it needs to be supported in content/layout, and then in a11y.
- # [13:19] <Stevef> MarcoZ: sure thanks
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- # [16:03] <@davidb> tbsaunde: thanks for landing my patch
- # [16:03] <@davidb> hi all!
- # [16:08] <richardschwerdtfeger> GM
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- # [17:38] <@davidb> i dislike all macros that i didn't write
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- # [17:52] <@eeejay> buenos dias
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- # [17:55] <@davidb> heyo
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- # [18:13] <@MarcoZ> davidb: So tbsaunde landed stuff on the accessibility branch. Do we need to go through Inbound for merging it back, or can we go straight to m-c.
- # [18:15] <@davidb> I'd go inbound, so no need to watch tree
- # [18:15] <@davidb> how much stuff is on our branch?
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- # [19:37] <@davidb> hub: ready?
- # [20:00] <@davidb> eeejay: does that #a11y chat throw any kinks into the mix?
- # [20:01] <@davidb> (gnome #a11y)
- # [20:01] <@eeejay> davidb, not at all
- # [20:01] <@davidb> great!
- # [20:01] <@eeejay> davidb, it is just encouraging that desktop is trying to solve a similar problem, so it really dovetails
- # [20:01] <@davidb> agreed
- # [20:02] <@davidb> i just hope it doesn't invoke too much API bikeshedding
- # [20:02] <@davidb> just the right amount would be nice :)
- # [20:04] <@davidb> meeting time!
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- # [20:28] <@tbsaunde> davidb: meeting time?
- # [20:28] <@davidb> weekly update meeting
- # [20:28] <@tbsaunde> davidb: meeting time?
- # [20:29] <@davidb> every week Monday at 2pm EST
- # [20:29] <@tbsaunde> davidb: meeting time?
- # [20:29] <@davidb> echo?
- # [20:29] <@tbsaunde> kerg, was scrolled up and thought my keyboard was jammed
- # [20:30] <@tbsaunde> oh, yeah that
- # [20:30] <@tbsaunde> btw pretty sure merges need to go directly to m-c :\
- # [20:31] <@davidb> oh
- # [20:31] <@davidb> ok
- # [20:32] <@davidb> why?
- # [20:33] <@tbsaunde> I seem to remember someone writing to dev-platform saying to do it that way not really sure, but I'd gues because of some sort of mercurial thing
- # [20:36] <@davidb> MarcoZ: ^
- # [20:37] <@MarcoZ> tbsaunde: davidb: Ah OK!
- # [20:55] <@davidb> firebot: sleeping?
- # [20:55] <@firebot> davidb: Sorry, I've no idea what 'sleeping' might be.
- # [20:55] <@davidb> I know how you feel.
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- # [21:26] <@tbsaunde> davidb: so, if you dislike macros how would you feel about expandoifying at least some of roles states and event types?
- # [21:27] <@davidb> which?
- # [21:27] <@tbsaunde> I mean do the same thing with the declarations as we do for atoms
- # [21:28] <@davidb> I'd be totally fine with that
- # [21:28] <@tbsaunde> so instead of several arrays / enums for role types you'd have
- # [21:28] <@tbsaunde> ROLE(BUTTON, IA!_BUTTON, ATK_BUTTON, "button")
- # [21:29] <@tbsaunde> ok, I think I'll file bugs then
- # [21:30] <@davidb> wait
- # [21:30] <@davidb> ok
- # [21:30] <@davidb> i'll check the bugs to be sure i understand.
- # [21:30] <@tbsaunde> I'm not in any real hurry
- # [21:30] <@davidb> go ahead
- # [21:30] <@tbsaunde> I probably won't get to it for a couple ours
- # [21:30] <@davidb> bugs are cheap
- # [21:31] <@davidb> ok
- # [21:32] <@tbsaunde> but it really is the same thing we do with atoms modulo the exact definitions of the macro and how many arguments it takes
- # [21:33] <@tbsaunde> anyway, I'm going to go eat then start landing stuff then deal with other stuff
- # [21:41] <@davidb> good stuff
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- # [22:05] <@tbsaunde> firebot: are you asleep?
- # [22:05] <@firebot> tbsaunde: Sorry, I've no idea what 'are you asleep' might be.
- # [22:06] <@tbsaunde> davidb: bug 716644
- # [22:08] <@davidb> and answered
- # [22:12] <@tbsaunde> ok, I'd consider calling it a good first bug, but dealing with cpp can get interesting if things don't go as expected
- # [22:12] <@tbsaunde> davidb: but I might see if I can just write a patch tonight
- # [22:13] <@davidb> sweet!
- # [22:13] <@tbsaunde> well, actually I should land the roles patch first of course :)
- # [22:28] <@davidb> tbsaunde: drive by reviews are fine BTW
- # [22:28] <@davidb> bug 539699
- # [22:29] <@davidb> and r+ or r- from a non-peer might not be enough to allow landing, or prevent landing, but all reviews should be encouraged
- # [22:29] <@davidb> unless/until there is a problem
- # [22:30] <@davidb> in general, as a project, we shouldn't discourage people proactively reviewing code unless it becomes a problem.
- # [22:32] <@tbsaunde> davidb: ys, I am fine with reviewing
- # [22:32] <@tbsaunde> but I think fiddling with flags if they don't mean anything confuses things
- # [22:32] <@davidb> oh is that what happened?
- # [22:32] <@tbsaunde> *yes
- # [22:33] <@tbsaunde> I'm not sure
- # [22:33] <@tbsaunde> if anyone was confused in that case, but I believe it to be a risk
- # [22:33] <@davidb> oh, perhaps it had an r+ with no name next to it?
- # [22:33] <@davidb> it is too bad bugzilla doesn't solve this… make it clear about the status of the patch in terms of land-ability
- # [22:34] <@tbsaunde> I guess? but then it would have to know who can review what
- # [22:35] <@tbsaunde> but otherwise why can't we just use r+ to mean can land?
- # [22:36] <@davidb> because we want to encourage reviews
- # [22:36] <@tbsaunde> not actually land, but "I would be ok with something very similar landing"
- # [22:36] <@davidb> was that the case here?
- # [22:37] <@davidb> I'm not sure.
- # [22:37] <@tbsaunde> to allow for fixing small build bustage on one platform or rebasing
- # [22:37] <@tbsaunde> I'm not sure what you mean?
- # [22:37] <@davidb> Was hub saying "I would be ok with this patch landing"?
- # [22:38] <@tbsaunde> I'm not sure what he was saying
- # [22:38] <@davidb> I still think bugzilla should solve this.
- # [22:38] <@davidb> heheh
- # [22:38] <@davidb> I'll ask him when he's active
- # [22:38] <@tbsaunde> although I guess a better meaning is I would be ok with, but it is ok if this patch lands
- # [22:39] <@hub> yeah I was fine with it, I reviewed the change he had made following the comment
- # [22:39] <@davidb> ok
- # [22:40] <@davidb> I can see the concern about random people r+ing things and people mistakenly landing them.
- # [22:41] <@davidb> I'd rather be more open to it until it becomes a problem.
- # [22:41] <@davidb> for now
- # [22:41] <@davidb> and of course… i gotta run
- # [22:41] <@tbsaunde> what does fliping the flag get you though?
- # [22:41] <@davidb> it tells people you think this is good.
- # [22:42] <@tbsaunde> isn't the comment enough for that?
- # [22:42] <@davidb> sometimes
- # [22:42] <@davidb> when the tree is burning, it can be helpful to know who has looked at the patch quickly
- # [22:42] <@davidb> having r=foo,bar,bash is nice
- # [22:42] <@tbsaunde> hm?
- # [22:42] <@hub> my r+ was taking into account tbsaunde previous r+
- # [22:42] <@davidb> ah
- # [22:43] <@davidb> hub: so were you doing it by proxy sort of?
- # [22:43] <@hub> I was trying to help given the amount of patches to review
- # [22:43] <@hub> :-)
- # [22:43] <@davidb> man i gotta run
- # [22:43] <@davidb> that should be encouraged :)
- # [22:43] <@tbsaunde> so, in that case you could just cancel the request because it wasn't needed in the first place
- # [22:43] <@hub> I gotta run too, to the office
- # [22:44] <@davidb> ok let's sleep on it
- # [22:44] <@davidb> no big deal
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- # [22:45] <@davidb> tbsaunde: so what i want, is for people to be able to spend the time reviewing patches when the spirit moves them, but for it not to cause confusion.
- # [22:45] <@davidb> ok really gotta run
- # [22:45] <@davidb> ciao!
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