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  8. # [00:21] <I_stephen> Hi guys, How do you get firefox to load in safe mode? I've forgotten how to do this?
  9. # [00:23] <@tbsaunde> I_stephen: this is not the right channle to ask that
  10. # [00:24] <@tbsaunde> try google
  11. # [00:25] <I_stephen> oh... sorry
  12. # [00:25] <I_stephen> I didn't know what questions were allowed and what questions werent
  13. # [00:26] <I_stephen> oh, btw: when I press control d to book mark a site, neither the pc cursor or jaws cursor will read out the prompts
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  18. # [00:30] <I_stephen> for example, if I'm typing something in and I make a mistake, and I press backspace or use the cursor keys to review what I've typed, nothing gets read
  19. # [00:31] <I_stephen> it's darn annoying
  20. # [00:35] <I_stephen> There's another bug where firefox crashes when I use the arrow keys in the addons manager. I put in a bug report for firefox 9, but it appears not to have been fixed in firefox 10.
  21. # [00:36] <I_stephen> Thats what happens when you rush out releases without ironing out the bugs first
  22. # [00:49] <@eeejay> aaronlev, \o/
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  24. # [00:50] <@hub> I_stephen: "rushing ou releases" ?
  25. # [00:53] <I_stephen> Yea, firefox 9, firefox 10, instead of firefox 9. firefox 9.1, 9.2 etc. the way it used to be. when they use to concentrate more on fixing bugs
  26. # [00:53] <I_stephen> instead it seems like every couple of weeks there's a new major release
  27. # [00:54] <I_stephen> which ends up causing some things to break
  28. # [00:54] <I_stephen> accessibility wise
  29. # [00:54] <@hub> if your definition of "a couple" is "six" then yeah
  30. # [00:54] <@eeejay> I_stephen, version names are not really significant. if you want to call firefox 10 9.1, you could :)
  31. # [00:54] <@hub> but that does mean things are rushed
  32. # [00:55] <@hub> just that every 6 weeks, a new version come with 6 weeks of changes. Also this means that we test smaller set of changes meaning that on overall the quality is higher
  33. # [00:55] <I_stephen> oh ok
  34. # [00:56] <I_stephen> well, whatever they do, it seems to break things a lot
  35. # [00:56] <I_stephen> for example I can't read the location bar properly with jaws
  36. # [00:56] <I_stephen> with v10
  37. # [00:57] <I_stephen> I reported a bug with the add on manager on version 9 that hasn't been fixed with version 10. that was quite a number of weeks ago
  38. # [00:58] <I_stephen> Firefox 3.x was quite stable. I quite liked it.. oh and it was very accessible
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  46. # [02:17] <@tbsaunde> surkov: so, for the access node stuff we now have aRoot->GetLnaguage() which msvc doesn't like reasonably since there botha vfunc on nsAccessible by that name and the non virtual function on nsAccessNode
  47. # [02:18] <@surkov> I see, ignore that comment then
  48. # [02:18] <@tbsaunde> can you do something like foo->nsAccessNode::GetLanguage()?
  49. # [02:18] <@tbsaunde> surkov: well, it seems like a good idea if we can do it
  50. # [02:19] <@surkov> not sure how we can workaround this
  51. # [02:20] <@tbsaunde> surkov: well, g++ will take aRoot->GetLanguage()
  52. # [02:20] <@tbsaunde> err, aRoot->nsAccessNode::GetLanguage()
  53. # [02:21] <@surkov> tbsaunde: don't we use method name without Get prefix?
  54. # [02:21] <@surkov> like Description()?
  55. # [02:21] <@tbsaunde> and if msvc won't I'm pretty sure static_cast<nsAccessNode*>(aRoot)->GetLanguage() should work
  56. # [02:21] <@tbsaunde> surkov: a bit
  57. # [02:22] <@tbsaunde> I'm not sure why I didn't change it in this case but I can if you like
  58. # [02:22] <@surkov> maybe this time we should do the same?
  59. # [02:22] <@surkov> I don't see any difference with Description() method
  60. # [02:22] <@surkov> at least we should try to be consistent
  61. # [02:22] <@tbsaunde> true
  62. # [02:22] <@tbsaunde> I'll change it then
  63. # [02:23] <@surkov> ok
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  87. # [04:09] <@tbsaunde> surkov: so, how do you feel about sticking random things in mFlags to get rid of virtual funcs returning bools that only depend on the type
  88. # [04:10] <@surkov> tbsaunde: fine with me, what do you keep in mind?
  89. # [04:10] <@surkov> GetAllowsAnon?
  90. # [04:10] <@tbsaunde> surkov: that was what made me think of it
  91. # [04:11] <@tbsaunde> but I think there might e a similar function or two
  92. # [04:11] <@tbsaunde> IsPrimaryForNode maybe?
  93. # [04:11] <@surkov> tbsaunde: I thought about GetAllowsAnon but this method has some checke dependent on attributes, so it doesn't look like a flag
  94. # [04:12] <@surkov> IsPrimaryForNode is good example for this
  95. # [04:13] <@tbsaunde> surkov: not sure I follow
  96. # [04:14] <@tbsaunde> I haven't looked at xforms yet but otherwise the only attribute check I see we should be able to do in the constructor
  97. # [04:14] <@surkov> tbsaunde: look at nsXULComboboxAccessible::GetAllowsAnonChildAccessibles()
  98. # [04:15] <@surkov> probably that's not good example since accessible might be recreated when attribute is changed
  99. # [04:16] <@surkov> so if we can make sure that all implementations checking some stuffs can be moved to constructor (i.e. accessible is recreated when these stuffs are changed) then we can do it as flags
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  101. # [04:18] <@tbsaunde> surkov: yeah, I gues the attribute check needs a little thought
  102. # [04:18] <@tbsaunde> but first gues is we recreate
  103. # [04:19] <@tbsaunde> but the general issue is true
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  116. # [05:49] * Topic is '"build the web for everyone" | release schedule: http://mzl.la/LNc0W'
  117. # [05:49] * Set by davidb on Thu Dec 08 15:12:17
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  124. # [07:00] <@MarcoZ> Hi all!
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  126. # [07:16] <@tbsaunde> MarcoZ: hi
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  129. # [08:12] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 723796 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  130. # [08:12] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723796 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, rename nsAccessible::GetAllowsAnonChildAccessibles
  131. # [08:12] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 723797 filed by VYV03354@nifty.ne.jp.
  132. # [08:12] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723797 nor, --, ---, m_kato, NEW, Delayload oleacc.dll
  133. # [08:12] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 673405 from --- to mozilla12.
  134. # [08:13] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 723424 filed by trev.saunders@gmail.com.
  135. # [08:13] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 673405 from mozilla12 to ---.
  136. # [08:13] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=673405 cri, --, ---, hub, NEW, Rename GetDocAccessible() to Document()
  137. # [08:13] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723424 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, dexpcom GetUnignoredParent()
  138. # [08:14] <@firebot> m_kato@ga2.so-net.ne.jp requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 594052 on bug 723797.
  139. # [08:14] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 723427 filed by trev.saunders@gmail.com.
  140. # [08:14] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723427 nor, --, ---, joey.blacksmith, NEW, dexpcom GetUnignoredChildren()
  141. # [08:14] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 593194 on bug 673405.
  142. # [08:15] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 672504 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  143. # [08:15] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672504 nor, --, mozilla13, hub, ASSI, Don't keep pointer to weak presshell in accessible
  144. # [08:16] <@firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 719754 from mozilla12 to ---.
  145. # [08:17] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=719754 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, REOP, Rewrite a11y tests that put <tabbrowser> in random XUL documents and expect it to work
  146. # [08:17] <@firebot> m_kato@ga2.so-net.ne.jp requested review from khuey@kylehuey.com for attachment 594052 on bug 723797.
  147. # [08:18] <@firebot> askalski@mozilla.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 593216 on bug 717506.
  148. # [08:18] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=717506 nor, --, ---, askalski, NEW, telemetry for xforms use
  149. # [08:24] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com granted review for attachment 593738 on bug 723420.
  150. # [08:24] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723420 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, Don't make sure the root accessible is created when window gets focused
  151. # [08:24] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 593006 on bug 548472.
  152. # [08:24] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled superreview?(neil@httl.net) for attachment 593006 on bug 548472.
  153. # [08:25] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=548472 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, Column header accessibles are not ordered according to visual order
  154. # [08:25] <@tbsaunde> firebot: wtf?
  155. # [08:25] <@firebot> tbsaunde: wtf is an acronym for "What The F..." (insert word's favorite four-letter word)
  156. # [08:26] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail.com for attachment 593216 on bug 717506.
  157. # [08:27] <@surkov> firebot: you are perisher
  158. # [08:27] <@firebot> surkov: But you are 'talking to a bot and that's just sad.'...
  159. # [08:27] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 593194 on bug 673405.
  160. # [08:27] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=673405 cri, --, ---, hub, NEW, Rename GetDocAccessible() to Document()
  161. # [08:28] <@surkov> firebot: it sounds I talk to guy who programmed you
  162. # [08:28] <@firebot> surkov: Sorry, I've no idea what 'it sounds I talk to guy who programmed you' might be.
  163. # [08:28] <@surkov> sure
  164. # [08:28] <@tbsaunde> surkov: perisher?
  165. # [08:28] <@surkov> you've never heard about him
  166. # [08:29] <@tbsaunde> surkov: I don't believe I have
  167. # [08:29] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 585095 on bug 698823.
  168. # [08:29] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=698823 nor, --, mozilla10, eitan, NEW, Introduce virtual cursor/soft focus functionality to a11y API
  169. # [08:29] <@surkov> tbsaunde: here's a list of possible meanings: drag, sickener, perisher, downer, menace, wet blanket, dull beggar, prune, nudnik
  170. # [08:29] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 593216 on bug 717506.
  171. # [08:30] <@surkov> I'm not sure which one describes the best what I thought
  172. # [08:30] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=717506 nor, --, ---, askalski, NEW, telemetry for xforms use
  173. # [08:30] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 593284 on bug 698823.
  174. # [08:30] <@surkov> firebot: please stop spamming
  175. # [08:30] <@firebot> fmdevelopertim@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 721038 from Keyboard Navigation to Untriaged.
  176. # [08:30] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ok
  177. # [08:31] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=721038 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Conteneditable: double clicking, then pressing an arrow makes caret go wild
  178. # [08:31] <@firebot> surkov: Sorry, I've no idea what 'please stop spamming' might be.
  179. # [08:31] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 720148 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  180. # [08:31] <@surkov> unfortunately
  181. # [08:31] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 720148 to FIXED.
  182. # [08:32] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Target Milestone on bug 720148 from --- to mozilla13.
  183. # [08:32] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=720148 nor, --, mozilla13, murali.sr92, RESO FIXED, ARIA button should expose press action
  184. # [08:32] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 593284 on bug 698823.
  185. # [08:32] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 589784 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  186. # [08:33] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 589784 to FIXED.
  187. # [08:33] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Target Milestone on bug 589784 from --- to mozilla13.
  188. # [08:33] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=589784 nor, --, mozilla13, markcapella, RESO FIXED, Remove role="label" aria processing.
  189. # [08:33] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com granted review for attachment 593006 on bug 548472.
  190. # [08:34] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 593006 on bug 548472.
  191. # [08:34] <@firebot> ioana.budnar@softvision.ro set status-firefox10 to verified on bug 706026.
  192. # [08:34] <@firebot> ioana.budnar@softvision.ro set status-firefox10 to verified on bug 706834.
  193. # [08:35] <@tbsaunde> hm, I wonder happens if I do
  194. # [08:35] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=706026 cri, --, mozilla11, surkov.alexander, VERI FIXED, Crash in nsXULTextFieldAccessible::FrameSelection
  195. # [08:35] * tbsaunde sets mode: +iQ
  196. # [08:35] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=706834 cri, --, mozilla11, surkov.alexander, VERI FIXED, Crash in nsXULTreeAccessible::TreeViewChanged
  197. # [08:35] <@firebot> murali.sr92@yahoo.com requested feedback from bolterbugz@gmail. com for attachment 593855 on bug 702560.
  198. # [08:36] <@tbsaunde> ugh, not what I want :/
  199. # [08:36] * tbsaunde sets mode: -tiQ
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  201. # [08:36] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=702560 nor, --, ---, murali.sr92, NEW, add a11y mochitest for HTML 5 contextmenu
  202. # [08:40] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 585095 on bug 698823.
  203. # [08:40] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=698823 nor, --, mozilla10, eitan, NEW, Introduce virtual cursor/soft focus functionality to a11y API
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  205. # [08:42] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted in-testsuite on bug 720148.
  206. # [08:43] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=720148 nor, --, mozilla13, murali.sr92, RESO FIXED, ARIA button should expose press action
  207. # [08:43] <@firebot> mbeltzner@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 713052 from UNCONFIRMED to NEW.
  208. # [08:44] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=713052 nor, --, ---, johan.charlez, NEW, Add preference for disabling ALT-clicks to save links.
  209. # [08:45] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 723833 filed by jamie@nvaccess.org.
  210. # [08:45] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723833 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, IAccessibleText::setCaretOffset on location or search bar causes focus to jump
  211. # [08:57] <@hub> wth firebot?
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  215. # [09:08] <@MarcoZ> firebot: burb
  216. # [09:08] <@firebot> MarcoZ: Sorry, I've no idea what 'burb' might be.
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  218. # [09:18] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from marco.zehe@googlema il.com for attachment 594079 on bug 719754.
  219. # [09:18] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=719754 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, REOP, Rewrite a11y tests that put <tabbrowser> in random XUL documents and expect it to work
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  228. # [10:04] <@surkov> hi, MarcoZ
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  231. # [10:22] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 723847 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  232. # [10:22] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723847 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Use VisibilityState() instead of generic State()
  233. # [10:25] <@MarcoZ> Hi surkov!
  234. # [10:25] <@MarcoZ> Sorry, am fighting with test/tree/test_tabbrowser.xul. It starts and ends without running any tests in about 30 MS timeframe. Will look at your review request now for a distraction.
  235. # [10:26] <@surkov> sure
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  237. # [10:36] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com granted review for attachment 594079 on bug 719754.
  238. # [10:36] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=719754 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, REOP, Rewrite a11y tests that put <tabbrowser> in random XUL documents and expect it to work
  239. # [10:38] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Is it always preferred to define an eventseq inside the invoker function rather than creating the event queue with a single event?
  240. # [10:39] <@surkov> I prefer that way
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  244. # [10:46] <@MarcoZ> surkov: OK.
  245. # [10:46] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Will do it this way even though my test will only have one event I listen for and then do a check.
  246. # [11:04] <@MarcoZ> Darn I'm too dumb for writing these tests! :(
  247. # [11:06] <@tbsaunde> surkov: what is that new visibility state bug about? I don't get it
  248. # [11:06] <@surkov> tbsaunde: replace State() & states::INVISIBLE on VisibilityState() &
  249. # [11:08] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com requested feedback from surkov.alexander@ gmail.com for attachment 594096 on bug 719754.
  250. # [11:08] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=719754 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, REOP, Rewrite a11y tests that put <tabbrowser> in random XUL documents and expect it to work
  251. # [11:11] <@tbsaunde> surkov: oh, you mean the places we call State() to see if something is visible
  252. # [11:11] <@surkov> yes
  253. # [11:11] <@tbsaunde> surkov: what about the stuff in nsHTMLSelectAccessible.cpp where we set visibility states
  254. # [11:12] <@tbsaunde> I assume you want VisibilityState() to take care of that
  255. # [11:12] <@surkov> tbsaunde: we shouldn't do that, either VisibilityState should be virtual or that code should be moved to VisibilityState
  256. # [11:12] <@surkov> or removed at all
  257. # [11:12] <@surkov> right :)
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  259. # [11:40] <@surkov> tbsaunde: I wonder why don't use try server build?
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  261. # [11:45] <@tbsaunde> surkov: I did, didn't see any failure message
  262. # [11:45] <@surkov> hm
  263. # [11:45] <@tbsaunde> I'm not really sure I'll look later
  264. # [11:46] <@tbsaunde> to tired to think
  265. # [11:47] <@MarcoZ> surkov: tbsaunde: I've seen different results from try-server versus regular checkins, too. Very disconcerting at times.
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  269. # [11:59] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 594105 on bug 723833.
  270. # [11:59] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 723833 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  271. # [11:59] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723833 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, IAccessibleText::setCaretOffset on location or search bar causes focus to jump
  272. # [12:09] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 723872 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  273. # [12:09] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723872 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, table/test_sels_listbox.xul has failures in console
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  275. # [12:21] <@tbsaunde> MarcoZ: surkov it looks like I might have used the trychooser patch that only builds windows
  276. # [12:21] <@surkov> ok, got it
  277. # [12:21] <@tbsaunde> since it had passed try before nits from surkov
  278. # [12:21] <@MarcoZ> OK
  279. # [12:21] <@tbsaunde> so basically I suck
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  281. # [12:32] <@MarcoZ> tbsaunde: Believe me, I feel like the biggest sucker in the world right now. I can't seem to figure out for the life of me why a test file doesn't throw any errors, but also doesn't run any tests, even though it *should*
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  302. # [15:31] <@MarcoZ> Hi davidb! Please discard my prior e-mail, appointment was cancelled when I was just about to leave the house. :)
  303. # [15:31] <@davidb> ok :)
  304. # [15:37] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Ever had a test file that, despite your thinking that you did everything right and don't find typos etc., simply didn't run? Just told you that "Todo: No tests actually ran"?
  305. # [15:37] <@davidb> yeah
  306. # [15:37] <@davidb> did you check the error console?
  307. # [15:37] <@davidb> also set that global debug var
  308. # [15:37] <@MarcoZ> I'm having this problem with the patch I attached to bug 719754.
  309. # [15:37] <@davidb> I also use online lint
  310. # [15:38] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=719754 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, REOP, Rewrite a11y tests that put <tabbrowser> in random XUL documents and expect it to work
  311. # [15:38] <@MarcoZ> What's lint?
  312. # [15:39] <@MarcoZ> davidb: AFAICT, the file doesn't even start the test for some frickin' reason. It is supposed to open a browser window with two tabs in it. Doesn't happen. And again, I can't find any typos.
  313. # [15:40] <@davidb> MarcoZ: what is the openBrowserWindow function?
  314. # [15:40] <@MarcoZ> It's defined in tests/mochitest/browser.js and takes as parameters the actual test func to run and an URL to open.
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  316. # [15:41] <@davidb> ok
  317. # [15:41] <@MarcoZ> It is the new stuff we have to do if we want to test something in the browser chrome (sanctioned by Dao BTW).
  318. # [15:41] <@MarcoZ> The other patches in that bug also use it.
  319. # [15:42] <@davidb> hmm this is a bit convoluted
  320. # [15:42] <@davidb> (browser.js)
  321. # [15:42] * @davidb looks at startBrowserTests
  322. # [15:43] <@davidb> MarcoZ: did you try adding an alert in any of the browser.js functions?
  323. # [15:43] <@MarcoZ> davidb: No.
  324. # [15:43] <@davidb> it is worth finding out for sure if they are called
  325. # [15:43] <@MarcoZ> davidb: And I've seen the functions work, e. g. in the previous test I was battling with, a browser window WAS opened with the exact same mechanism. The test didn't work for other reasons.
  326. # [15:44] <@davidb> if you past bin the source of the file - i'll lint it
  327. # [15:44] <@MarcoZ> davidb: I did update it slightly compared to the patch. Let me pastebin it quickly.
  328. # [15:50] <@MarcoZ> FUCK! "Pastebin has detected links in your paste. To confirm that you are not a spam bot, please enter the captcha code below." WTF?
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  330. # [15:55] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Ah, was at the wrong pastebin. Here's the paste: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1473724
  331. # [15:56] <@davidb> ok
  332. # [15:56] <@firebot> bolterbugz@gmail.com cancelled feedback?(bolterbugz@gmail. com) for attachment 593855 on bug 702560.
  333. # [15:56] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=702560 nor, --, ---, murali.sr92, NEW, add a11y mochitest for HTML 5 contextmenu
  334. # [15:56] <@davidb> doh
  335. # [15:57] <@davidb> ok this is xul
  336. # [15:57] <@davidb> sigh
  337. # [15:58] <@MarcoZ> Yup sorry
  338. # [15:58] <@davidb> ok lint is happy enough
  339. # [15:58] <@davidb> MarcoZ: ok I think alert debugging is your next step
  340. # [15:59] <@MarcoZ> OK!
  341. # [15:59] <@MarcoZ> sighs
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  347. # [16:15] <@MarcoZ> davidb: The problem is somewhere in the invoker.
  348. # [16:15] <@MarcoZ> If I comment that out, the rest runs. Now digging into that.
  349. # [16:16] <@davidb> cool
  350. # [16:19] <@davidb> meeting with Ken in 15
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  352. # [16:21] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Nice!
  353. # [16:21] <@MarcoZ> davidb: And I now know what's going on. It's this.invoke = function bla..., not as I have it there this.invoke: function bla ...
  354. # [16:21] <@davidb> cool
  355. # [16:22] <@MarcoZ> Got really confused with that JS syntax.
  356. # [16:26] <@MarcoZ> Yay I have tests that are actually running! They're not all passing yet, but they're running!
  357. # [16:27] <@davidb> great!
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  360. # [16:43] <I_stephen> I have another problem with firefox 10.
  361. # [16:43] <I_stephen> When I go to bookmark a page and try to review the text with the pc or jaws cursor, jaws thinks there's nothing there on the screen
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  365. # [16:59] <I_stephen> ok well it's late and I need to go back to bed now. chat later
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  368. # [17:13] <@davidb> MarcoZ: great call with Ken
  369. # [17:14] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Very nice!
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  371. # [17:24] <@davidb> yep we have a standing meeting every two weeks now
  372. # [17:25] <@davidb> just updates
  373. # [17:25] <@davidb> i can imagine this turning into a community meeting
  374. # [17:25] <@davidb> which should be separate from our a11y dev meeting IMO
  375. # [17:25] <@davidb> I'm sad that I keep using the word "meeting"
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  377. # [17:28] <@MarcoZ> heh
  378. # [17:28] <@MarcoZ> davidb: BTW, I have a test-pass!
  379. # [17:29] <@davidb> onward!
  380. # [17:33] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com cancelled feedback?(surkov.alexander@ gmail.com) for attachment 594096 on bug 719754.
  381. # [17:33] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 594194 on bug 719754.
  382. # [17:33] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=719754 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, REOP, Rewrite a11y tests that put <tabbrowser> in random XUL documents and expect it to work
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  390. # [18:15] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 594194 on bug 719754.
  391. # [18:15] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 594209 on bug 719754.
  392. # [18:15] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=719754 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, REOP, Rewrite a11y tests that put <tabbrowser> in random XUL documents and expect it to work
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  394. # [18:16] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Yay, got the last of those files rewritten, too. If there's nothing else you need, I'll go into the weekend.
  395. # [18:17] <@MarcoZ> s/into/off to/
  396. # [18:17] <@MarcoZ> s/off to/off for/
  397. # [18:17] <@MarcoZ> Yikes, my brain...
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  408. # [19:20] <@hub> bug 723833, isn't that what I_stephen reported here yesterday?
  409. # [19:20] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723833 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, IAccessibleText::setCaretOffset on location or search bar causes focus to jump
  410. # [19:21] <@davidb> I don't know.
  411. # [19:21] <@davidb> maybe
  412. # [19:22] <@hub> he said:
  413. # [19:23] <@hub> 15:50 (I_stephen) for example I can't read the location bar properly with jaws
  414. # [19:23] <@hub> 15:50 (I_stephen) with v10
  415. # [19:23] <@davidb> I'm glad Jamie files bugs.
  416. # [19:23] <@davidb> Probably it.
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  420. # [20:10] <@eeejay> davidb, i remember Jamie specifically removing himself from bug 698823
  421. # [20:10] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=698823 nor, --, mozilla10, eitan, NEW, Introduce virtual cursor/soft focus functionality to a11y API
  422. # [20:10] <@eeejay> but he could do it again, i guess :)
  423. # [20:10] <@davidb> oops :)
  424. # [20:11] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 723420 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  425. # [20:11] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 723420 to FIXED.
  426. # [20:11] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Target Milestone on bug 723420 from --- to mozilla13.
  427. # [20:11] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723420 nor, --, mozilla13, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, Don't make sure the root accessible is created when window gets focused
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  432. # [20:49] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 710125 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  433. # [20:49] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 710125 to FIXED.
  434. # [20:49] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Target Milestone on bug 710125 from --- to mozilla13.
  435. # [20:49] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710125 nor, --, mozilla13, m_kato, RESO FIXED, Reduce LoadLibray/GetProcAddress for user32.dll and oleacc.dll on a11y
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  437. # [20:55] <Aleksej> Hi.
  438. # [20:56] <Aleksej> bug 524001 and bug 579639 are duplicates of each other. One is in Keyboard Navigation, the other in Security.
  439. # [20:56] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524001 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Cannot navigate untrusted connection warning page with keyboard (for mouse-less installations)
  440. # [20:56] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=579639 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, "This Connection is Untrusted" page is not fully keyboard accessible
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  443. # [20:59] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 698823 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  444. # [20:59] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 698823 to FIXED.
  445. # [20:59] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Target Milestone on bug 698823 from mozilla10 to mozilla13.
  446. # [20:59] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=698823 nor, --, mozilla13, eitan, RESO FIXED, Introduce virtual cursor/soft focus functionality to a11y API
  447. # [21:00] <@davidb> Aleksej: we normally close the more recent one as a dupe of the earlier one
  448. # [21:00] <@davidb> feel free.
  449. # [21:01] <Aleksej> davidb: ok, I will. What about the component?
  450. # [21:01] <@davidb> bug 524001 has the correct settings i think
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  453. # [21:13] <Aleksej> ok, thanks
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  455. # [21:17] <@davidb> thankyou
  456. # [21:17] <Aleksej> np
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  458. # [21:30] <@firebot> deletesoftware+moz@yandex.ru changed the Status on bug 619954 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED.
  459. # [21:30] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=619954 nor, --, ---, nobody, VERI DUPLICATE, Untrusted connection warning page cannot be navigated with keyboard (for mouse-less installations)
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  461. # [21:36] <@firebot> deletesoftware+moz@yandex.ru changed the Status on bug 537680 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED.
  462. # [21:36] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=537680 nor, --, ---, nobody, VERI DUPLICATE, Security warning page is not accessible with keyboard
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  465. # [22:01] <@hub> so I'm totally losing the focus event
  466. # [22:01] <@hub> that's why the mochitest break
  467. # [22:01] <@hub> but I have no idea what's going one
  468. # [22:01] <@hub> on
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  470. # [22:15] <@davidb> don't lose focus
  471. # [22:16] <@davidb> http://badum-tish.com/
  472. # [22:17] <@hub> davidb: I wish I knew what. I'm just change the we get the doc accessible :-/
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  474. # [22:26] <@davidb> :/
  475. # [22:26] <@davidb> i imagine it is tricky to debug
  476. # [22:26] <@davidb> gotta run - have a great weekend
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  484. # [23:53] <@tbsaunde> hub: call GetDocument on the AccEvent when its put into the queue and then maybe before and after its coalesced and then in HandleAccEvent?
  485. # [23:53] <@tbsaunde> and see if it ever was non null
  486. # [23:55] <@hub> ok, I'll try that
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