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- # [06:55] <@hub> still green
- # [06:55] <@hub> :-)
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- # [07:20] <@MarcoZ> hub: Sounds like this is going to land on inbound soon, eh?
- # [07:24] <@hub> need to get a re-review.
- # [07:25] <@MarcoZ> !seen surkov
- # [07:26] <@firebot> surkov was last seen 24 hours, 30 minutes and 47 seconds ago, saying 'tbsaunde: iirc spec says nothing about that, CSS style is applicable to any element' in #accessibility.
- # [07:26] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 594916 on bug 672504.
- # [07:26] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672504 nor, --, mozilla13, hub, ASSI, Don't keep pointer to weak presshell in accessible
- # [07:26] <@hub> then I can land 673405
- # [07:26] <@hub> :-)
- # [07:27] <@MarcoZ> hub: Do you need that to be able to continue work on Mac accessibility?
- # [07:28] <@hub> no I can do without
- # [07:29] <@hub> but I wanted to make sure 672504 is landed as soon as possible to make sure it does not break the rest
- # [07:29] <@MarcoZ> Ah OK! :)
- # [07:29] <@hub> the other is already r+, just that it depends of the previous one
- # [07:29] * @MarcoZ nods.
- # [07:30] <@hub> it is just my fault: I didn't check the mochitests
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- # [07:39] <@MarcoZ> Hi surkov!
- # [07:39] <@surkov> Hi, MarcoZ!
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- # [08:29] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Are we able to test parts of the XUL UI from within HTML test files? I'm thinking of the right approach for bug 702560.
- # [08:29] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=702560 nor, --, ---, murali.sr92, NEW, add a11y mochitest for HTML 5 contextmenu
- # [08:30] <@MarcoZ> surkov: The "problem" is that the context menu appears outside the document tree. it is being created right beneath the application frame.
- # [08:30] <@surkov> sure you can
- # [08:30] <@surkov> just get an accessible and test it
- # [08:30] <@surkov> see how we test HTML forms autocompletes
- # [08:30] <@MarcoZ> surkov: OK!
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- # [08:55] <@MarcoZ> Hi Mark_Capella! :)
- # [08:56] <Mark_Capella> hello marcoz !
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- # [08:57] <Mark_Capella> marcoz: while I run a build I thought I'd lurk and learn a little
- # [09:00] <@MarcoZ> Mark_Capella: Unfortunately, this time of day it's mostly a bit more quiet. The Canadians and Americans have gone to bed, the Europeans are just becoming active. ;-) Where are you based BTW?
- # [09:00] <@MarcoZ> I'm in Germany.
- # [09:00] <Mark_Capella> marcoz: US East Coast ... I sleep off hours ... used to working late shifts
- # [09:11] <@MarcoZ> Mark_Capella: oh I see!
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- # [10:25] <@askalski> morning everyone
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- # [10:40] <@MarcoZ> Morning askalski!
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- # [11:09] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com denied review for attachment 594702 on bug 723796.
- # [11:09] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723796 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, rename nsAccessible::GetAllowsAnonChildAccessibles
- # [11:33] <@askalski> MarcoZ, I am trying to run a single test in spite of entire mochitest-a11y
- # [11:33] <@askalski> I call
- # [11:33] <@askalski> TEST_PATH=accessible/test_foo.html make -C objdir mochitest-a11y
- # [11:33] <@askalski> and it hangs
- # [11:33] <@askalski> I mean Nightly opens, but run no test
- # [11:33] <@askalski> at all
- # [11:35] <@MarcoZ> Hm, since I don't use that method of running accessibility tests, I'm not sure. Is there a button to 2run test"? If so, just click it.
- # [11:37] <@askalski> MarcoZ, got it, just needed to expand a path
- # [11:40] <@MarcoZ> Good!
- # [11:40] <@askalski> MarcoZ, no, it still does not. celebrated to early
- # [11:41] <@askalski> now it just adds full path to chrome:// .....
- # [11:41] <@askalski> which fails, and without the ~/ prefix it hangs
- # [11:41] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 594916 on bug 672504.
- # [11:41] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672504 nor, --, mozilla13, hub, ASSI, Don't keep pointer to weak presshell in accessible
- # [11:41] <@askalski> but even if it did work, I think that tests should be sym-linked, not copied
- # [11:41] <@askalski> at least for testing purposes (a developer flag)
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- # [13:29] <@firebot> askalski@mozilla.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 594986 on bug 706134.
- # [13:29] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=706134 nor, --, ---, askalski, NEW, ARIA listitem shouldn't expose selectable state and pick up aria-selected and aria-checked
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- # [15:26] <@MarcoZ> Hi all!
- # [15:28] <@MarcoZ> Wow, my blog post gained some traction!
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- # [15:41] <@davidb> hi hi hi
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- # [16:41] <muralisr92> davidb: hi, are you busy??
- # [16:41] <@davidb> muralisr92: always, but go ahead :)
- # [16:42] <muralisr92> okay, this is with regards to bug 702560
- # [16:42] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=702560 nor, --, ---, murali.sr92, NEW, add a11y mochitest for HTML 5 contextmenu
- # [16:42] <muralisr92> you had asked me to look up http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/accessible/tests/mochitest/tree/test_tree.xul
- # [16:42] <muralisr92> in that, we are basically creating different trees and testing them..
- # [16:43] <@davidb> ok
- # [16:44] <muralisr92> so coming back to our back, i'm not sure how to find out the different ways of using context menu.. so i looked uphttps://bug617528.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=554309
- # [16:44] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=617528 enh, --, mozilla8, Jan.Varga, ASSI, implement the HTML5 "context menu" feature (contextmenu attribute)
- # [16:44] <muralisr92> * https://bug617528.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=554309
- # [16:44] <@davidb> yep
- # [16:45] <muralisr92> in the current test( if it is one) i've written, i've added 2 context menus (both displaying alerts)
- # [16:45] <muralisr92> so i'm supposed to add something else??
- # [16:46] <muralisr92> similar to menu items that rotate on clicking...
- # [16:46] <@davidb> muralisr92: in your current patch (on the bug) I wasn't able to get the context menu working.
- # [16:47] <@davidb> (via right click)
- # [16:47] <muralisr92> just a moment please.. i'll try it out..
- # [16:47] <@davidb> sure
- # [16:48] <@davidb> muralisr92: it works!
- # [16:48] <@davidb> muralisr92: my bad.
- # [16:49] <@davidb> muralisr92: this is great, so what you need to do next is trigger the menu (in the test) and check the accessible tree for the menu
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- # [16:49] <@davidb> note, I'm not picky what the on click handlers do (if anything)
- # [16:50] <muralisr92> im so sorry.. but triggering the menu means i should do it like test_tree.xul??
- # [16:50] <@davidb> don't be sorry :)
- # [16:50] <@davidb> this is the questions place.
- # [16:51] <muralisr92> :)
- # [16:51] * @davidb looks at test_tree.xul
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- # [16:52] <@davidb> muralisr92: I'm not 100% sure but I think you want to trigger the tree checker based on an event (so that we know the menu is shown and read).
- # [16:53] <@davidb> MarcoZ: what do you think? ^ (you are the mentor :) )
- # [16:54] <@davidb> muralisr92: in any event, the tree we want you to test is "supermenu"
- # [16:55] <muralisr92> okay...??
- # [16:55] <muralisr92> can you please tell me more so that i understand what a "tree" is
- # [16:55] <@davidb> muralisr92: testAccessibleTree("supermenu", tree);
- # [16:56] <@davidb> and you'll need to update the tree structure to map what we expect the context menu mapping to be.
- # [16:56] <@davidb> probably { ROLE_MENU: [ ...
- # [16:56] <muralisr92> Ohh so the structure of
- # [16:56] <@MarcoZ> davidb: muralisr92: Yes, that is correct. You basically want a right-click invoker that simulates the right-mouse click on the element you specify, then checks to see if the menu appears and test the contents of the menu.
- # [16:56] <muralisr92> <menu type="context" id="supermenu">
- # [16:56] <muralisr92> <menu label="alerts">
- # [16:56] <muralisr92> <menuitem label="foo alert" onclick="alert('foo')"></menuitem>
- # [16:56] <muralisr92> <menuitem label="bar alert" onclick="alert('bar')"></menuitem>
- # [16:56] <muralisr92> </menu>
- # [16:56] <muralisr92> </menu>
- # [16:56] <muralisr92> will be inside the tree variable
- # [16:57] <@MarcoZ> muralisr92: Like the hierarchy of the HTML DOM, accessibility relies on a tree of objects (parent-child-relationships) to determine what belongs where.
- # [16:57] <@davidb> the accessible mapping of that markup yes
- # [16:57] <@MarcoZ> accessibility tree is sort of a subset of the HTML/XUL DOM in Firefox and other xUL applications.
- # [16:58] <@MarcoZ> Exactly!
- # [16:58] <muralisr92> wow okay thanks a lot!!! i think i'll have the patch ready in sometime! :)
- # [16:58] <muralisr92> thank you so much!! :D
- # [16:59] <@davidb> excellent!
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- # [17:27] <@firebot> askalski@mozilla.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 595044 on bug 717506.
- # [17:28] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=717506 nor, --, ---, askalski, NEW, telemetry for xforms use
- # [17:30] <@firebot> murali.sr92@yahoo.com requested feedback from marco.zehe@google mail.com for attachment 595046 on bug 702560.
- # [17:30] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=702560 nor, --, ---, murali.sr92, NEW, add a11y mochitest for HTML 5 contextmenu
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- # [17:40] <@askalski> ping
- # [17:41] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com granted feedback for attachment 595046 on bug 702560.
- # [17:41] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=702560 nor, --, ---, murali.sr92, NEW, add a11y mochitest for HTML 5 contextmenu
- # [17:52] <@firebot> bolterbugz@gmail.com cancelled feedback?(bolterbugz@gmail. com) for attachment 595046 on bug 702560.
- # [17:52] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=702560 nor, --, ---, murali.sr92, NEW, add a11y mochitest for HTML 5 contextmenu
- # [17:54] <@davidb> askalski: pong?
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- # [17:54] <@askalski> davidb, just checking whether the connection is on
- # [17:55] <@davidb> k
- # [17:57] <@askalski> sometimes I loose wifi, and then I need to reestablish VPN, and IRC is not very informative
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- # [18:21] <muralisr92> MarcoZ: can i please ask some doubts regarding the bug we were talking about sometime ago???
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- # [19:13] <satdav> hi davidb seen you setup the list for accessibility
- # [19:13] <@davidb> satdav: hi we're waiting to make sure the archives work, then i can make you a moderator
- # [19:14] <satdav> OK
- # [19:14] <satdav> so you not going to use the dev one any more
- # [19:14] <satdav> or you going to keep that
- # [19:15] <@davidb> keep it for now
- # [19:15] <@davidb> I'll announce the new list there once archives are working.
- # [19:18] <satdav> OK
- # [19:18] <satdav> I posted in the new list their
- # [19:18] <satdav> welcoming everyone to it
- # [19:21] <@davidb> satdav: I don't understand.
- # [19:22] <@davidb> satdav: ah ok to accessiblity@ yeah
- # [19:22] <satdav> davidb, I have managed to promote the group can you add the list on here
- # [19:23] <@davidb> satdav: we don't have archives working yet. I would like to have archives working before announcing.
- # [19:23] <@davidb> satdav: you can test the link here https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/accessibility
- # [19:23] <@davidb> Sometime Google takes a while (see http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.accessibility/topics)
- # [19:24] <@davidb> satdav: is that okay?
- # [19:24] <@davidb> it might take a few days
- # [19:25] <satdav> thats odd its
- # [19:25] <satdav> not working
- # [19:26] <@davidb> Right.
- # [19:26] <@davidb> The related bug has comments about this.
- # [19:27] <satdav> yes i seen that
- # [19:29] <satdav> davidb, checked the old list a lot of spam on it
- # [19:29] <@davidb> yep
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- # [19:44] <satdav> so Moves to RELEASED on March 13, 2012
- # [19:44] <satdav> now for the next firefox update
- # [19:44] <satdav> that will be good
- # [19:57] <@davidb> hi eeejay
- # [19:57] <@eeejay> davidb, hey hey
- # [19:57] <@davidb> eeejay: how's the app coming along?
- # [19:57] <@davidb> apk
- # [19:57] * @davidb is so tired of spell correct
- # [19:57] <@eeejay> davidb, no apk yet, massaging the javascript
- # [19:58] <@davidb> ah ok - i'm excited to try it.
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- # [20:10] <@eeejay> bbiab
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- # [20:31] <@eeejay> bug 703284
- # [20:31] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=703284 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Introduce tree walker API
- # [20:32] <@firebot> bolterbugz@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 703284 from NEW to RESOLVED.
- # [20:32] <@firebot> bolterbugz@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 703284 to DUPLICATE of bug 698823.
- # [20:32] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=698823 nor, --, mozilla13, eitan, RESO FIXED, Introduce virtual cursor/soft focus functionality to a11y API
- # [20:36] <satdav> davidb, was looking would be good for a bit on bugzilla for accessibility also if their is not one
- # [20:37] <@davidb> satdav: can you say that another way - sorry I didn't understand.
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- # [21:08] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 723797 from NEW to RESOLVED.
- # [21:08] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 723797 to FIXED.
- # [21:08] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Target Milestone on bug 723797 from --- to mozilla13.
- # [21:08] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723797 nor, --, mozilla13, m_kato, RESO FIXED, Delayload oleacc.dll
- # [21:25] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 689540 from NEW to RESOLVED.
- # [21:25] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 689540 to FIXED.
- # [21:25] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Target Milestone on bug 689540 from --- to mozilla13.
- # [21:25] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=689540 nor, P3, mozilla13, markcapella, RESO FIXED, Expose IA2 margin- object attributes
- # [21:27] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 719754 from REOPENED to RESOLVED.
- # [21:27] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 719754 to FIXED.
- # [21:27] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Target Milestone on bug 719754 from --- to mozilla13.
- # [21:27] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=719754 nor, --, mozilla13, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, Rewrite a11y tests that put <tabbrowser> in random XUL documents and expect it to work
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- # [22:02] <@davidb> wow http://mozilla-antarctica.org/
- # [22:03] <@hub> we should have a work week there
- # [22:03] <@hub> :-)
- # [22:04] <@davidb> :)
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- # [22:35] <clown> davidb, got a minute?
- # [22:35] <@davidb> in a meeting
- # [22:35] <clown> 'k
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- # [23:03] <@davidb> i don't wish back to back meetings on anyone
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- # [23:08] <@firebot> joey.blacksmith@gmail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 595165 on bug 723796.
- # [23:08] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723796 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, rename nsAccessible::GetAllowsAnonChildAccessibles
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- # [23:48] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 673405 from --- to mozilla13.
- # [23:48] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=673405 cri, --, ---, hub, NEW, Rename GetDocAccessible() to Document()
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- # Session Close: Wed Feb 08 00:00:00 2012
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