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- # [01:14] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 596278 on bug 725647.
- # [01:14] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=725647 maj, --, mozilla13, markcapella, RESO FIXED, [SeaMonkey] mochitest-a11y: test_embeds.xul needs to support non-Firefox applications too
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- # [05:30] * Topic is '"build the web for everyone" | release schedule: http://mzl.la/LNc0W'
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- # [08:35] <@firebot> matti@mversen.de changed the Component on bug 364523 from Disability Access to Untriaged.
- # [08:35] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364523 tri, --, ---, nobody, RESO INVALID, jidanni's Debian firefox bugs
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- # [09:13] <@tbsaunde> ugh, todays nightly seems to be pretty broken with orca :/
- # [09:31] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 726931 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
- # [09:31] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726931 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, ARIA treeitem shouldn't pick up the name from nested treeitems
- # [09:31] <@surkov> tbsaunde: please figure this out and file bugs
- # [09:31] <@surkov> three bugs were landed iirc
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- # [10:06] <@tbsaunde> surkov: yeah, I'll look soon
- # [10:07] <@surkov> thank you!
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- # [11:28] <@firebot> joey.blacksmith@gmail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 596950 on bug 726507.
- # [11:28] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726507 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, HTML and XUL accessible classes shouldn't use nsAccessibilityService::GetAccessible
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- # [11:48] <@askalski> morning everyone!
- # [11:53] <@askalski> MarcoZ, the make mochitest-a11y does not work on debian, as it defines 1) python2.7 that is not in stable and 2) it (by default) installs from sources somewhere else
- # [11:53] <@askalski> should I make it bug? can we address it?
- # [11:54] <@MarcoZ> askalski: Phew, no idea. This seems to be a general build problem.
- # [11:55] <@MarcoZ> askalski: You can file a bug, but I have no idea whether this will be addressed or *how* it can be. I've given up keeping track of what's in what Linux distro a ges ago. *g*
- # [11:55] <@askalski> MarcoZ, well, after they messed Gnome, it's the last place to look for a stable gnome 2...
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- # [12:08] <@MarcoZ> tbsaunde: Could it be that you're seeing similar things as bug 726097 describes, meaning regressions from bug 672504? I don't see anything worse broken in Monday's nightly than in Sunday's.
- # [12:08] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726097 blo, --, ---, hub, NEW, Hit testing broken
- # [12:08] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672504 nor, --, mozilla13, hub, RESO FIXED, Don't keep pointer to weak presshell in accessible
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- # [13:28] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com denied review for attachment 596950 on bug 726507.
- # [13:29] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726507 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, HTML and XUL accessible classes shouldn't use nsAccessibilityService::GetAccessible
- # [13:29] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 726507 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
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- # [15:01] <@tbsaunde> surkov: for bug 606080 why not just log timestamps for creates and destroys with a printf in the ctor / dtor for nsAccessible?
- # [15:01] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=606080 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, (64bit) fix unique id casting to NS_PTR_TO_INT32 issue
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- # [15:02] <@surkov> tbsaunde: that works, I'd liked to have some API for perf regressions tests
- # [15:02] <@surkov> but I agree that's easiest way to try the approach
- # [15:04] <@tbsaunde> surkov: I see
- # [15:04] <@tbsaunde> surkov: I'm not really sure why that itself is something we care about for perf regressions
- # [15:05] <@tbsaunde> I'd think more useful things would be how much does DOM talos perf regress when we are running
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- # [15:12] <@surkov> tbsaunde: that's true, but existing approach allows us to know there's perf regression, and if we could measure specific parts of code (not their mapping into a11y api) then it must be much easier to find what went wrong, anyway
- # [15:12] <@surkov> that looks like separate task
- # [15:16] <@firebot> joey.blacksmith@gmail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 596994 on bug 726507.
- # [15:16] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726507 nor, --, ---, joey.blacksmith, ASSI, HTML and XUL accessible classes shouldn't use nsAccessibilityService::GetAccessible
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- # [15:58] <@tbsaunde> surkov: well, there probably would be a perf regression, but I could believe there are cases where it isn't
- # [15:58] <@tbsaunde> surkov: anyway do we coalesce show / hide events or could you use those for this?
- # [15:59] <@surkov> I didn't catch how show/hide are related with this
- # [16:00] <@tbsaunde> surkov: well, you want to know whenever an accessible is created / destroyed so you can test how many times it happens no?
- # [16:01] <@tbsaunde> it ocured to me while I was off showering that show / hide events should be enough for this shouldn't they?
- # [16:02] <@surkov> tbsaunde: sorry, about which problem do you talk?
- # [16:03] <@tbsaunde> surkov: your wanting an api for perf regressions that told you when accessibles are created / destroyed which was a tangent from bug 606080
- # [16:03] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=606080 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, (64bit) fix unique id casting to NS_PTR_TO_INT32 issue
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- # [16:04] <@surkov> tbsaunde: ah, that API was supposed to be wider that this problem :)
- # [16:04] <@surkov> for example, test our notifications, events flushing
- # [16:04] <@surkov> events coalescence
- # [16:04] <@surkov> how much time we spend for that or this action
- # [16:05] <@surkov> tbsaunde: concerning to 32 bit uniqueid problem, your numbers will always has penalty of event coalescence and other stuffs
- # [16:06] <@tbsaunde> surkov: oh, ok
- # [16:07] <@tbsaunde> that might be reasonable, or maybe we should just have talos test that causes lots of events to fire for example and see how long it takes, but I'd agree we should make tests for this
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- # [16:08] <@tbsaunde> anyway go to run
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- # [16:12] <@davidb> tbsaunde: lol (soda)
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- # [16:45] <@askalski> hi davidb!
- # [16:46] <@davidb> hi askalski!
- # [16:46] <@askalski> I am fighting with the algorithm, to be honest, results don't match. I wrote my questions down in an e-mail to doc', and experiment further
- # [16:46] <@davidb> askalski: an e-mail to doc?
- # [16:47] <@askalski> anyway, the proof of concept is not really working yet
- # [16:47] <@davidb> ok, are you stuck?
- # [16:47] <@askalski> I wound't say that yet
- # [16:47] <@askalski> but in 2-3 hours
- # [16:47] <@askalski> :)
- # [16:48] <@askalski> if I find no progress, I'll go with range trees and wait for his answer
- # [16:48] <@askalski> doc = Krzysztof Onak, Pole from MIMUW, now at MIT specialized in text alg
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- # [16:50] <@davidb> ah ok cool
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- # [17:37] <jhk> davidb: Any one working on bug 542039 ?
- # [17:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=542039 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, nsIFrame should return accessible type
- # [17:37] * @davidb looks
- # [17:38] <@davidb> jhk: I'm not sure of the status. surkov has a WIP on the bug so probably best to ask him.
- # [17:39] <@davidb> jhk: are you using windows?
- # [17:39] <jhk> no.
- # [17:39] <@davidb> jhk: which os?
- # [17:39] <jhk> linux
- # [17:39] <@davidb> ok
- # [17:39] <@davidb> a real one :)
- # [17:40] * @davidb looks over bugs
- # [17:40] <jhk> yep tbsaunde pointed this bug to me so I was thinking about it.
- # [17:41] <@davidb> it is a good bug, I just don't know status
- # [17:44] <jhk> np.. I will discuss it with surkov when he is online.. thanks:)
- # [17:44] <@davidb> sure
- # [17:45] <@davidb> jhk: want a crash bug?
- # [17:45] <@davidb> bug 707488
- # [17:45] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707488 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Crash in nsHTMLTextFieldAccessible::NativeRole or nsXULTextFieldAccessible::NativeRole
- # [17:47] <jhk> actually surkov gave me one already..
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- # [17:48] <jhk> bug 717066
- # [17:48] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=717066 nor, --, mozilla12, jigneshhk1992, RESO FIXED, Remove unnecessary nsresult return value from nsGenericHTMLElement::GetLayoutHistoryAndKey
- # [17:49] <jhk> sorry! wrong one
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- # [18:14] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I sort of assume surkov has dropped that bug on the floor for now, but who I guess who nows maybe he's hiding a patch or something
- # [18:14] <@davidb> yes or changed direction
- # [18:16] <@tbsaunde> davidb: in the run sure maybe, but short term I think that bug is still worth to fix
- # [18:16] <@tbsaunde> long term I mean
- # [18:16] <@davidb> ok
- # [18:16] <@tbsaunde> nunless surkov is going to do something big soon I don't know about to treeupdate
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- # [18:34] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I assume you think the crash you mentioned to jhk is a IsDefunct9) issue?
- # [18:34] <@tbsaunde> err, IsDefunct()
- # [18:34] <@davidb> maybe
- # [18:34] <@davidb> hi eeejay!
- # [18:34] <@davidb> hi hub!
- # [18:34] <@tbsaunde> eeejay: hi, you saw I found firefox in the market on my phone right?
- # [18:35] <@eeejay> tbsaunde, oh, yeah. thanks
- # [18:35] <@tbsaunde> davidb: any reason to think not?
- # [18:35] <@davidb> tbsaunde: i didn't look closely
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- # [18:35] <jhk> tbsaunde: bug 539683?
- # [18:35] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=539683 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, defunct object methods should return CO_E_OBJECTNOTCONNECTED
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- # [18:36] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I haven't looked very closely, and I'd really need local variables to prove it, but we should add the check to CAccessibleText::get_Extents() anyway
- # [18:36] <@davidb> jhk: no the crasher
- # [18:36] <@davidb> tbsaunde: sounds reasonable
- # [18:37] <@tbsaunde> jhk: yes, I believe that bug would fix 707488
- # [18:37] <@tbsaunde> davidb: if i'm right the crasher is just a case of the bug jhk mentions
- # [18:37] <@davidb> oh!
- # [18:38] <@davidb> ok
- # [18:38] <@davidb> sorry I'm only 20% in this channel ATM
- # [18:38] <@tbsaunde> k$np
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- # [18:42] <@davidb> eeejay: how was the trip?
- # [18:42] <@eeejay> davidb, crazy whirlwind, but great
- # [18:43] <@davidb> good to hear
- # [18:43] <@eeejay> 40 accumulated hours in planes and airports
- # [18:43] <@davidb> i would hate that
- # [18:43] <@eeejay> yeah. someone needs to mass commercialize teleporters
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- # [19:18] <@hub> I can't figure out how to run mochitests with just one test. If I do TEST_PATH=content/a11y/accessible/test_childAtPoint.xul make mochitest-a11y
- # [19:19] <@hub> it starts the harness but does nothing else
- # [19:23] <@eeejay> hub, the test path might be wrong.
- # [19:23] <@hub> that's what I thought
- # [19:23] <@hub> but I can't figure out the right one
- # [19:23] <@eeejay> python runtests.py --console-level=DEBUG --a11y --test-path=accessible/pivot/test_virtualcursor.html
- # [19:23] <@eeejay> that is from my bash history
- # [19:24] <@hub> doh
- # [19:24] <@hub> ok
- # [19:24] <@eeejay> in objdir/_tests/testing/mochitest/
- # [19:24] <@hub> TEST_PATH=accessible/test_childAtPoint.html make mochitest-a11y
- # [19:24] <@hub> that work
- # [19:24] <@eeejay> cool
- # [19:24] <@hub> thanks
- # [19:24] <@hub> I wish I had an error message
- # [19:24] * @eeejay agrees
- # [19:28] <@davidb> note, in some rare cases, for a given test file, running the whole suite can give a different result that running only that test file.
- # [19:29] <@davidb> Just saying, in case you come upon such happenstance.
- # [19:34] <@hub> javascript NaNNaNNaN
- # [19:34] <@hub> (leader)
- # [19:34] <@hub> *sigh*
- # [19:36] <@tbsaunde> yeah, o it would be nice if how test-path worked was document somewhere other than the source of runtests.py
- # [19:36] * @tbsaunde remembers pointing the ability to run only test out to surkov sometime last summer
- # [19:38] <@davidb> is it really not in the wiki?
- # [19:39] * @davidb fails to find it in 30 secs
- # [19:40] <@hub> davidb: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mochitest#Debugging_individual_tests
- # [19:40] <@hub> but then it does not say exactly how to determine the path
- # [19:40] <@davidb> true
- # [19:40] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I'm not sure of exactly how path works for a11y tests being document somewhere, but I never really looked
- # [19:41] <@davidb> feel free to add it
- # [19:44] * @davidb finally gets around to bugmail
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- # [20:00] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 727163 filed by nfroyd@mozilla.com.
- # [20:00] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727163 nor, --, ---, nfroyd, ASSI, fix compiler warnings in accessible/
- # [20:01] <@firebot> nfroyd@mozilla.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 597093 on bug 727163.
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- # [20:45] <@firebot> akeybl@mozilla.com granted approval-mozilla-aurora for attachment 596278 on bug 725647.
- # [20:45] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=725647 maj, --, mozilla13, markcapella, RESO FIXED, [SeaMonkey] mochitest-a11y: test_embeds.xul needs to support non-Firefox applications too
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- # [21:07] <@eeejay> lunch!
- # [21:09] <@davidb> crap, I forgot to pop tylenol before this w3 call
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- # [21:44] <@eeejay> haha
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- # [21:56] <@davidb> that was a doozy (tylenol seems to be working). i had to leave the call and go somewhere quiet. didn't want to open my right eye for some reason.
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- # [22:19] <@hub> ouch
- # [22:26] <@davidb> ok, maybe I need to stop looking at screens for a bit
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