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- # Session Start: Fri Feb 24 00:00:00 2012
- # Session Ident: #accessibility
- # [00:17] <@firebot> karlt@mozbugz.karlt.net granted feedback for attachment 599959 on bug 473576.
- # [00:17] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=473576 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, font-family text attribute should expose actual font used
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- # [03:58] <@firebot> bzbarsky@mit.edu granted review for attachment 600113 on bug 495912.
- # [03:58] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=495912 nor, --, ---, bolterbugz, NEW, Expose alternative content in Canvas element to ATs
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- # [05:12] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted feedback for attachment 600023 on bug 725259.
- # [05:12] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=725259 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, ARIA role combobox shouldn't allow aria-valueXXX attributes
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- # [05:35] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 600023 on bug 725259.
- # [05:35] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=725259 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, ARIA role combobox shouldn't allow aria-valueXXX attributes
- # [05:42] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from bolterbugz@gmail.co m for attachment 600023 on bug 725259.
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- # [06:21] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 600054 on bug 729861.
- # [06:21] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=729861 cri, --, ---, hub, NEW, Crash in nsDocAccessible::GetAccessible
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- # [07:06] <@surkov> hi, tbsaunde
- # [07:06] <@surkov> how is it going?
- # [07:17] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 730198 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
- # [07:17] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=730198 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, telemetry for YouDao Dictionary and Kazaguru
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- # [09:30] <@hub> surkov: what's the right kind of assertion then?
- # [09:30] <@surkov> hub, NS_ASSERTION, by default it shows a dialog on windows
- # [09:30] <@hub> oh
- # [09:30] <@surkov> you can figure out to produce a warning or stack trace
- # [09:31] <@hub> but putting a dialog will be very annoying :-/
- # [09:31] <@surkov> hub, only if you see it often, but also that means you can catch this case and figure out right solution
- # [09:31] <@surkov> assertion means something goes really bad
- # [09:32] <@surkov> and you need to look at it
- # [09:32] <@surkov> when I see good reproduciblele assertion then I'm looking into it
- # [09:34] <@surkov> so I use assertions for something that shouldn't really happen and for crashes without steps to reproduce when I don't understand what's going on really or not sure and I can't figure out right solution. So I put a null check and add an assertion
- # [09:34] <@hub> ok, I'll submit a new patch tomorrow morning to have a visible assert.
- # [09:34] <@surkov> hoping to catch it one day
- # [09:34] <@surkov> thank you
- # [09:38] <@hub> good night
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- # [12:40] <@MarcoZ> Hi all!
- # [12:45] <@tbsaunde> surkov: pretty crazy week, but only a couple hours left then I cn start thinking about your ptche
- # [12:45] <@tbsaunde> what's up?
- # [12:45] <@surkov> tbsaunde: cool, ah, nothing new actually, was able to reproduce jamie's crash
- # [12:46] <@surkov> but need to debug more to understand why that happens
- # [12:48] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ok, nice :)
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- # [15:18] <@MarcoZ> Hi davidb!
- # [15:24] <@davidb> hi MarcoZ!
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- # [16:36] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com changed the Status on bug 728904 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
- # [16:36] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=728904 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, prefix telemetry constants starting by A11Y
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- # [17:05] <@firebot> sgautherie.bz@free.fr set status-firefox11 to affected on bug 718235.
- # [17:05] <@firebot> sgautherie.bz@free.fr set status-firefox12 to affected on bug 718235.
- # [17:05] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=718235 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [SeaMonkey] "a11y/accessible/events/test_focus_general.html | Doubled event { event type: focus, tar
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- # [17:16] <@davidb> hub: last day to sign up for mozcamp LATAM
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- # [17:38] <@firebot> sgautherie.bz@free.fr changed the Status on bug 717753 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED.
- # [17:38] <@firebot> sgautherie.bz@free.fr set status-firefox11 to verified on bug 717753.
- # [17:38] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=717753 maj, --, mozilla12, sgautherie.bz, VERI FIXED, [SeaMonkey] mochitest-a11y: test_focus_browserui.xul needs to support non-Firefox applications too
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- # [18:10] <@hub> davidb: I know
- # [18:15] <@MarcoZ> hub: Thanks for your e-mail repoly from yesterday evening regarding the text interface! What else do you have cooking in your patch queue? *smile* Looks like you'll be submitting a lot of patches at once soon, eh?
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- # [18:16] <@hub> MarcoZ: it is one bug.
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- # [18:16] <@MarcoZ> Hub: Oh OK! The other day it sounded like you're working on multiple stuff in parallel. Looking forward to trying the fixes!
- # [18:19] <@tbsaunde> hub: what are you doing with the text interface?
- # [18:20] <@MarcoZ> tbsaunde: We're not implementing the Mac specific text interface yet.
- # [18:20] <@tbsaunde> oic
- # [18:23] <@MarcoZ> tbsaunde: As stuff starts working on Mac, we're discovering the stuff that isn't working yet. And this is one of those instances. Remember we're picking up the pieces here from a grantee who left withtout having finished the project.
- # [18:27] <@hub> I still need to figure out an easy to get the text bounds
- # [18:28] <@MarcoZ> hub: So Apple requires the visual rectangle of each character?
- # [18:32] <@firebot> mak77@bonardo.net changed the Target Milestone on bug 729861 from --- to mozilla13.
- # [18:32] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=729861 cri, --, mozilla13, hub, NEW, Crash in nsDocAccessible::GetAccessible
- # [18:35] <@firebot> sgautherie.bz@free.fr requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 600415 on bug 718235.
- # [18:35] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=718235 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [SeaMonkey] "a11y/accessible/events/test_focus_general.html | Doubled event { event type: focus, tar
- # [18:37] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 600417 on bug 728904.
- # [18:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=728904 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, prefix telemetry constants starting by A11Y
- # [18:41] <@eeejay> hub, MarcoZ, does thursday night work for a mozilla dinner?
- # [18:44] <@tbsaunde> eeejay: ?
- # [18:44] <@eeejay> tbsaunde, yo
- # [18:45] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: Thursday is the tweetup, organized by TPG & Co.
- # [18:45] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, does it make sense to do something after that?
- # [18:46] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, what about friday night?
- # [18:46] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: I do not know how long it runs. Perhaps it does!
- # [18:46] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: Friday would definitely work for me.
- # [18:46] <@MarcoZ> Having dinner now, will look here what was said afterwards.
- # [18:46] <@eeejay> hm, i'll ask jenisson. since he is such a csun social butterfly
- # [18:51] <@hub> MarcoZ: to implement it correctly, yes.
- # [18:54] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, can't you wait till next week? ;)
- # [18:55] <@hub> eeejay: my evenings are free for now
- # [18:55] <@eeejay> hub, cool thanks
- # [19:01] <@firebot> bolterbugz@gmail.com granted review for attachment 600023 on bug 725259.
- # [19:01] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=725259 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, ARIA role combobox shouldn't allow aria-valueXXX attributes
- # [19:02] * @tbsaunde relizes very late the subject was csun
- # [19:11] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: Jennison wants to take us out for a big dinner on Wednesday, where everybody pays for themselves. Yahoo! folks etc. I sent you and hub mail about that earlier today.
- # [19:11] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: The Mozilla community dinner is the one you're trying to organize now, right?
- # [19:12] <@hub> MarcoZ: I replied.
- # [19:12] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, yeah, i got that. that is what prompted me to find a mozilla dinner
- # [19:12] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, correct
- # [19:12] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: Perfect!
- # [19:13] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, so either thursday after tweetup, or friday. trying to get jennison's input
- # [19:13] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: Yes, both sounds fine with me!
- # [19:23] <@MarcoZ> OK, going off for the weekend. See you on Monday, at least for some time, since I need to prep for the trip, too. :)
- # [19:23] <@davidb> ciao!
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- # [20:15] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com changed the Status on bug 728905 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
- # [20:15] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=728905 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, telemetry ZoomText
- # [20:43] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 600460 on bug 729861.
- # [20:43] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=729861 cri, --, mozilla13, hub, NEW, Crash in nsDocAccessible::GetAccessible
- # [20:45] <@eeejay> hub, you will still be in san diego on friday night?
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- # [20:55] <@hub> eeejay: I leave on the same flight as you
- # [20:55] <@hub> eeejay: so yes
- # [20:55] <@eeejay> hub, right! cool. i'll send out a mozilla dinner invite
- # [20:55] <@hub> good
- # [21:00] <@eeejay> are the nvda folks coming to csun?
- # [21:00] <@eeejay> davidb, ^ ?
- # [21:01] <@davidb> eeejay: yep!
- # [21:01] <@eeejay> awesome
- # [21:01] <@davidb> eeejay: Mozilla is paying their way
- # [21:01] <@davidb> because
- # [21:01] <@eeejay> davidb, that is why i figured you would know :)
- # [21:01] <@davidb> Mozilla
- # [21:01] <@davidb> is
- # [21:01] <@davidb> awesome
- # [21:01] <@hub> mozilla is awesome
- # [21:01] <@eeejay> it
- # [21:01] <@eeejay> is
- # [21:01] <@davidb> totally
- # [21:02] * @davidb is working on a joanie grant
- # [21:02] <@eeejay> for csun? awesome
- # [21:04] <@davidb> eeejay: not for csun
- # [21:04] <@eeejay> davidb, oh? for igalia?
- # [21:04] * @davidb nods
- # [21:04] <@eeejay> cool
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- # [21:05] <@eeejay> aaronlev, will you be at csun?
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- # [21:17] <@davidb> askalski: congrats on level 1
- # [21:17] <@askalski> davidb, thanks
- # [21:17] <@askalski> sorry it took me so long
- # [21:18] <@davidb> np
- # [21:18] <@askalski> davidb, what is this MozCamp Latin America thing?
- # [21:18] <@davidb> askalski: community events where some fraction are paid staff (maybe 20% paid staff)
- # [21:18] <@tbsaunde> '/kick davidb eeejay gratuitus lines
- # [21:19] <@tbsaunde> ;)
- # [21:19] <@davidb> tbsaunde: :)
- # [21:19] <@davidb> askalski: tbsaunde is referring to us bragging about how awesome Mozilla is
- # [21:19] <@tbsaunde> before you joined
- # [21:20] <@askalski> davidb, do we need an event to do that? because if so I need to clock some additionall hours
- # [21:20] <@askalski> :)
- # [21:20] <@eeejay> hah
- # [21:20] <@davidb> it is a full time gig :)
- # [21:20] <@davidb> but
- # [21:20] <@askalski> yeah, my team officialy spread. Kufel went to Google Munich, at least for 3 months
- # [21:21] <@davidb> These camps have administrative support - planning - party etc
- # [21:21] <@askalski> davidb, ok. is it something I should consider, or just focus on the work?
- # [21:21] <@askalski> (at least for now)
- # [21:21] <@davidb> focus for now
- # [21:21] <@askalski> davidb, ok.
- # [21:21] <@askalski> davidb, I wasn't working much today, I just exchanged some e-mails
- # [21:22] <@askalski> davidb, there is another bypass to ukonen via hashing, but I'll get to that after submitting first patch
- # [21:22] <@davidb> contribute ideas if you got 'em - like 'oh hey my friend is the president of argentina and is offering his palace'
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- # [21:22] <@askalski> davidb, :D
- # [21:23] <@hub> FYI I applied
- # [21:23] <@askalski> davidb, I can arrange some event support in Warsaw if needed
- # [21:23] <@hub> for MozCamp LatAm
- # [21:23] <@davidb> hub: excellent
- # [21:23] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 600460 on bug 729861.
- # [21:23] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=729861 cri, --, mozilla13, hub, NEW, Crash in nsDocAccessible::GetAccessible
- # [21:23] <@davidb> askalski: you are definitely in mind for anything like that
- # [21:24] <@hub> oh drive-by review, thanks tbsaunde
- # [21:24] <@davidb> askalski: we'll see if recruiting bites on ACM
- # [21:24] <@davidb> err the contest thing
- # [21:24] <@davidb> hub, tbsaunde is that the assert - yeah looked good.
- # [21:24] <@tbsaunde> hub: np, was blocked on real work for a few minutes
- # [21:25] <@hub> it is
- # [21:25] <@askalski> davidb, ok
- # [21:25] <@tbsaunde> askalski: I couldn't really make much sense of the algorithm, but it looks like you have a bit of integration work to do to make it work in gecko lnd
- # [21:25] <@askalski> davidb, there are also multiple other algorithm competitons (national), with broader audience
- # [21:26] <@askalski> tbsaunde, what do you mean?
- # [21:26] <@askalski> tbsaunde, what is gecko lnd?
- # [21:26] <@davidb> mozilla codebase
- # [21:26] <@tbsaunde> askalski: land
- # [21:26] <@davidb> 'gecko' is the mozilla browser core
- # [21:26] <@askalski> tbsaunde, as for the integration - that I already started, though Alex voted for integration with TextUpdater as well, so I'll embedd it
- # [21:26] <@askalski> davidb, ok
- # [21:27] <@tbsaunde> things like use nsString aor nsAutoString isntead of std::string etc
- # [21:27] <@askalski> tbsaunde, yes, I know
- # [21:27] <@askalski> tbsaunde, also, the "skipPrefix" thing is tricky
- # [21:27] <@tbsaunde> askalski: you can refactor tht if you like
- # [21:28] <@askalski> tbsaunde, as embedding everywhere "-prefix" expression everywhere will add some unnecessary operations
- # [21:28] <@tbsaunde> but it seems like a reasonable optimiztion so...
- # [21:28] <@askalski> tbsaunde, the alg I wrote jumps over similar subsections in one step, it's blazing fast
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- # [21:28] <@hub> eeejay: btw do you want me to bring the Asus Tranformer at csun?
- # [21:28] <@askalski> tbsaunde, so skipPrefix and skipSuffix are unnecessary now
- # [21:29] <@hub> eeejay: to try / demo ?
- # [21:29] <@tbsaunde> askalski: so, get rid of them and refactor to make things nice then?
- # [21:29] <@askalski> tbsaunde, yes. also, I'll look for all calls for the method
- # [21:29] <@eeejay> hub, not much to demo on it yet. don't feel obliged to. I am sure there will be enough gadgets floating around
- # [21:29] <@askalski> tbsaunde, maybe the "stop when reaching distance" can be implemented in some cases
- # [21:30] <@hub> eeejay: I'm trying to travel light, so I'll pass on this one.
- # [21:30] <@tbsaunde> askalski: we only use the text updator from some where or another in NotificationController.cpp
- # [21:30] <@eeejay> hub, yep. no problem
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- # [21:30] <@hub> I'd rather pack more camera gear :-D
- # [21:31] <@askalski> tbsaunde, thanks, I'll look for it first thing Monday
- # [21:31] <@tbsaunde> askalski: ok, feel free to reorganize as you like
- # [21:31] <@askalski> now I think I need to do some housework before going asleep, just wanted to check in
- # [21:31] <@askalski> tbsaunde, good :D
- # [21:35] <@firebot> bolterbugz@gmail.com requested feedback from surkov.alexander@ gmail.com for attachment 600486 on bug 495912.
- # [21:35] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=495912 nor, --, ---, bolterbugz, NEW, Expose alternative content in Canvas element to ATs
- # [21:37] <@hub> do we keep on the team meeting Wednesday?
- # [21:38] <@davidb> naw
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- # [22:08] <@davidb> have a great weekend y'all
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- # [23:57] <@firebot> scoobidiver@netcourrier.com changed the Status on bug 714579 from RESOLVED to REOPENED.
- # [23:57] <@firebot> scoobidiver@netcourrier.com cleared the Resolution 'FIXED' from bug 714579.
- # [23:57] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=714579 cri, --, mozilla13, surkov.alexander, REOP, crash nsINode::OwnerDoc
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