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  1. # Session Start: Sat Feb 25 00:00:00 2012
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
  3. # [00:17] <@davidb> hub: do any of those stacks have accessibility calls? ^
  4. # [00:17] <@davidb> tbsaunde: ^
  5. # [00:18] <@hub> davidb: let me check
  6. # [00:19] <@davidb> perhaps toolkit
  7. # [00:19] <@davidb> please triage to toolkit if you agree
  8. # [00:19] <@davidb> or comment that we need a new bug
  9. # [00:19] <@davidb> (you'll need to check build ids to be sure of new stacks)
  10. # [00:21] <@hub> I don't see accessibility in the traces
  11. # [00:22] <@tbsaunde> I can look in a bit if hub hasn't delt with it
  12. # [00:24] <@hub> tbsaunde: I was looking at it
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  14. # [00:25] <@tbsaunde> hub: well then ;)
  15. # [00:29] <@davidb> hub: i can file a new bug
  16. # [00:29] <@hub> davidb: ok
  17. # [00:33] <@firebot> bolterbugz@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 714579 from REOPENED to RESOLVED.
  18. # [00:33] <@firebot> bolterbugz@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 714579 to FIXED.
  19. # [00:33] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=714579 cri, --, mozilla13, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, crash nsINode::OwnerDoc
  20. # [00:35] <@hub> nice mid-air collision
  21. # [00:37] <@davidb> heh
  22. # [00:38] <@davidb> i straightened it out with wg9s on irc
  23. # [00:44] * @tbsaunde doesn't plan to waste his time reading that
  24. # [00:44] <@davidb> it was backchannel
  25. # [00:46] <@tbsaunde> oh
  26. # [00:54] <@eeejay> hub, do you have a shotgun mic, or anything decent you could connect to your camera?
  27. # [00:56] <@hub> eeejay: nope
  28. # [00:56] <@hub> I don't do video
  29. # [00:57] <@hub> what's your plan?
  30. # [00:59] <@davidb> check your inbox
  31. # [00:59] <@davidb> (for csun goers)
  32. # [00:59] <@hub> just saw
  33. # [00:59] <@hub> I have a DV cam
  34. # [00:59] <@hub> I would need to get some tapes :-)
  35. # [00:59] <@eeejay> hub, you don't have a 5d mk2?
  36. # [00:59] <@davidb> this could be fun
  37. # [00:59] <@hub> eeejay: that too
  38. # [00:59] <@davidb> hub: expense what you need
  39. # [00:59] <@hub> and it does full HD
  40. # [01:00] * @davidb steps away
  41. # [01:00] <@eeejay> hub, it does amazing video, i have been doing a project with my 7d
  42. # [01:00] <@eeejay> hehe
  43. # [01:00] * @eeejay will get a shotgun mic this weekend
  44. # [01:00] <@hub> eeejay: I know it does amazing videos
  45. # [01:01] <@hub> looks like I need to get some extra CF cards
  46. # [01:01] <@hub> *sigh*
  47. # [01:01] <@eeejay> hub, my micro-four-thirds is also awesome. (i'm saying leave you DV cam at home :)
  48. # [01:01] <@hub> eeejay: the Olympus can do it too
  49. # [01:02] <@hub> but it does not have a plug for a mike
  50. # [01:04] <@eeejay> yeah, mine neither
  51. # [01:05] <@hub> and there is no accessory port unlike on later models
  52. # [01:05] <@hub> for the proprietary mike
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  66. # [03:01] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 598887 on bug 727940.
  67. # [03:01] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727940 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, Windows app can't read Firefox setting for hardware acceleration (D2D)
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  71. # [03:27] <@eeejay> anyone around to test vidyo with?
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  76. # [03:47] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 600415 on bug 718235.
  77. # [03:47] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=718235 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [SeaMonkey] "a11y/accessible/events/test_focus_general.html | Doubled event { event type: focus, tar
  78. # [03:53] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 600417 on bug 728904.
  79. # [03:53] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested feedback from trev.saunders@gmail.com for attachment 600417 on bug 728904.
  80. # [03:53] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=728904 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, prefix telemetry constants starting by A11Y
  81. # [03:58] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted feedback for attachment 600417 on bug 728904.
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  86. # [04:31] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 599220 on bug 729154.
  87. # [04:31] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=729154 nor, --, ---, bolterbugz, NEW, Telemetry for a11y instantiation by unknown cause.
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  93. # [04:57] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=495912 nor, --, ---, bolterbugz, NEW, Expose alternative content in Canvas element to ATs
  94. # [05:04] <@hub> eeejay: when you come back. Shall I look at getting a shotgun microphone for CSUN? If yes, what do you recommend that is not too expensive
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  102. # [05:46] <@tbsaunde> surkov: hi
  103. # [05:52] <@surkov> hi, tbsaunde
  104. # [06:07] <@tbsaunde> surkov: do you have any plans or hope to clean up the textattr stuff?
  105. # [06:08] <@surkov> tbsaunde: what do you mean?
  106. # [06:08] <@tbsaunde> its pretty confusing, I'm not really sure I'm smart enough to review your patches
  107. # [06:08] <@tbsaunde> especially the bit where you inherit from the template instatiation
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  109. # [06:13] <@surkov> I didn't wanted to rewrite testattr stuff, I have a feeling I like impl :)
  110. # [06:15] <@tbsaunde> I see
  111. # [06:15] <@tbsaunde> want to explain how it works then? I don't really get it
  112. # [06:16] <@tbsaunde> I think even if we don't totally rewrite things nsITextAttr can almost certainly go away
  113. # [06:29] <@surkov> tbsaunde: nsITextAttr is just an interface implemented for each text attribute, it allows to compare two values of text attribute and get string representation of it
  114. # [06:30] <@surkov> nsTextAttrsMgr runs through accessible tree and for each node, ask each text attr instance to compare with the value of traversed element
  115. # [06:30] <@surkov> if value is the same then it continues to run, if not then it found a range
  116. # [06:32] <@surkov> tbsaunde: you should give a chance to nsITextAttr maybe it conquers your heart :)
  117. # [06:33] <@firebot> sgautherie.bz@free.fr requested approval-mozilla-beta from the wind for attachment 600415 on bug 718235.
  118. # [06:33] <@firebot> sgautherie.bz@free.fr requested approval-mozilla-aurora from the wind for attachment 600415 on bug 718235.
  119. # [06:33] <@tbsaunde> surkov: yeah, I might be fine with the general design not sure yet
  120. # [06:33] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=718235 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [SeaMonkey] "a11y/accessible/events/test_focus_general.html | Doubled event { event type: focus, tar
  121. # [06:33] <@tbsaunde> but the interface class seems sort of silly
  122. # [06:33] <@surkov> it allows you to add/change text attribute quite easy, all you need is override three methods, name, comparison and value
  123. # [06:34] <@tbsaunde> yeah, but understanding the controll flow is ... hard
  124. # [06:36] <@surkov> yeah, I don't see a reason why we need to keep nsITextAttr and nsTextAttr both
  125. # [06:43] <@surkov> maybe the point was we need not templated version of nsTextAttr
  126. # [06:45] <@tbsaunde> surkov: yeah, or maybe there was a time there was other things that implemented nsITextAttr but not nsTextAttr?
  127. # [06:46] <@surkov> I have doubts
  128. # [06:46] <@tbsaunde> surkov: about what?
  129. # [06:46] <@surkov> about we had something different thant nsTextAttr
  130. # [06:49] <@tbsaunde> oh, ok
  131. # [06:56] <@tbsaunde> surkov: btw I think I know what my problem with orca was, I think basically I had enough stuff in awsume bar autocomplete that we fired so many events that orca thought it was being flooded
  132. # [06:57] <@surkov> damn
  133. # [06:57] <@tbsaunde> I believe the problem is that we fire a lot more accessible-parent events than we should
  134. # [06:57] <@tbsaunde> I think its a trivial ptch
  135. # [07:00] <@surkov> tbsaunde: bug 414491?
  136. # [07:00] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=414491 maj, P1, mozilla1.9, nobody, NEW, Too many accessible events when typing in Firefox3 location bar
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  138. # [07:09] <@tbsaunde> that might be related
  139. # [07:09] <@tbsaunde> forgot about it
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  141. # [07:11] <@tbsaunde> surkov: looks like no, the bug I'm seeing is linux specific dumbness
  142. # [07:12] <@surkov> ok
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  144. # [07:22] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 600621 on bug 716865.
  145. # [07:22] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=716865 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, atk's nsAccessibleWrap::FireShowHideEvent() makes bad assumptions about the event target
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  159. # [11:29] <@firebot> mak77@bonardo.net changed the Status on bug 729861 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  160. # [11:29] <@firebot> mak77@bonardo.net set the Resolution field on bug 729861 to FIXED.
  161. # [11:30] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=729861 cri, --, mozilla13, hub, RESO FIXED, Crash in nsDocAccessible::GetAccessible
  162. # [11:43] <@firebot> mak77@bonardo.net changed the Status on bug 725259 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  163. # [11:43] <@firebot> mak77@bonardo.net set the Resolution field on bug 725259 to FIXED.
  164. # [11:43] <@firebot> mak77@bonardo.net changed the Target Milestone on bug 725259 from --- to mozilla13.
  165. # [11:43] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=725259 nor, --, mozilla13, markcapella, RESO FIXED, ARIA role combobox shouldn't allow aria-valueXXX attributes
  166. # [11:43] <@firebot> mak77@bonardo.net changed the Status on bug 728904 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  167. # [11:43] <@firebot> mak77@bonardo.net set the Resolution field on bug 728904 to FIXED.
  168. # [11:43] <@firebot> mak77@bonardo.net changed the Target Milestone on bug 728904 from --- to mozilla13.
  169. # [11:43] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=728904 nor, --, mozilla13, markcapella, RESO FIXED, prefix telemetry constants starting by A11Y
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  171. # [12:07] <@firebot> jh@junetz.de set status-firefox12 to fixed on bug 725647.
  172. # [12:07] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=725647 maj, --, mozilla13, markcapella, RESO FIXED, [SeaMonkey] mochitest-a11y: test_embeds.xul needs to support non-Firefox applications too
  173. # [12:43] <@firebot> roc@ocallahan.org granted review for attachment 600113 on bug 495912.
  174. # [12:43] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=495912 nor, --, ---, bolterbugz, NEW, Expose alternative content in Canvas element to ATs
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  179. # [13:27] <@firebot> sgautherie.bz@free.fr set the Resolution field on bug 729474 to FIXED.
  180. # [13:27] <@firebot> sgautherie.bz@free.fr granted in-testsuite on bug 729474.
  181. # [13:27] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=729474 maj, P2, mozilla13, sgautherie.bz, RESO FIXED, [SeaMonkey] "TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | chrome://mochitests/content/a11y/accessible/name/test_browserui.
  182. # [13:28] <@firebot> sgautherie.bz@free.fr changed the Status on bug 729474 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED.
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  190. # [15:26] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 600660 on bug 728905.
  191. # [15:26] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=728905 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, telemetry ZoomText
  192. # [15:42] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com changed the Status on bug 730198 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  193. # [15:42] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=730198 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, telemetry for YouDao Dictionary and Kazaguru
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  198. # [16:14] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=716865 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, atk's nsAccessibleWrap::FireShowHideEvent() makes bad assumptions about the event target
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  200. # [16:51] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 600660 on bug 728905.
  201. # [16:51] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=728905 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, telemetry ZoomText
  202. # [16:51] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 600671 on bug 728905.
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  204. # [17:09] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 600671 on bug 728905.
  205. # [17:09] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com requested feedback from surkov.alexander@gmail.com for attachment 600671 on bug 728905.
  206. # [17:09] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=728905 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, telemetry ZoomText
  207. # [17:13] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com changed the Status on bug 730198 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  208. # [17:13] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com set the Resolution field on bug 730198 to FIXED.
  209. # [17:13] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=730198 nor, --, ---, markcapella, RESO FIXED, telemetry for YouDao Dictionary and Kazaguru
  210. # [17:16] <@tbsaunde> surkov: so, interesting I haven't seen anyissues with missing subtres or the like after a bit of use
  211. # [17:16] <@tbsaunde> I'm not really sure why
  212. # [17:16] <@surkov> interesting
  213. # [17:19] <@tbsaunde> well, I gues the only real problem could come up if someone got a child in a subtree where only the roots parent had been set and then wanted the parent and for somereason assumed the atobject had it and didn't call get_parent()
  214. # [17:22] * @tbsaunde not a fan of the way atk handles tree updates
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  216. # [17:37] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 730198 from FIXED to DUPLICATE.
  217. # [17:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=730198 nor, --, ---, markcapella, RESO FIXED, telemetry for YouDao Dictionary and Kazaguru
  218. # [17:37] <@tbsaunde> surkov: if your doing that you might want to update the summary
  219. # [17:38] <@surkov> I did
  220. # [17:38] <@tbsaunde> yeah, just saw
  221. # [17:39] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted feedback for attachment 600671 on bug 728905.
  222. # [17:39] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=728905 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, telemetry ZoomText, YouDao Dictionary and Kazaguru
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  228. # [18:04] <@tbsaunde> surkov: you might want to explain "application name" better, I didn't understand what you wanted
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  231. # [18:09] <@surkov> tbsaunde: YouDao Dictionary instead TEXTEXTRACTOR
  232. # [18:10] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 600676 on bug 716865.
  233. # [18:10] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=716865 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, atk's nsAccessibleWrap::FireShowHideEvent() makes bad assumptions about the event target
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  235. # [18:11] <@tbsaunde> surkov: doh
  236. # [18:33] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 600676 on bug 716865.
  237. # [18:33] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=716865 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, atk's nsAccessibleWrap::FireShowHideEvent() makes bad assumptions about the event target
  238. # [18:37] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested feedback from surkov.alexander@ gmail.com for attachment 600683 on bug 728905.
  239. # [18:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=728905 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, telemetry ZoomText, YouDao Dictionary and Kazaguru
  240. # [18:39] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted feedback for attachment 600683 on bug 728905.
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  243. # [18:40] <@surkov> hi, davidb
  244. # [18:40] <@davidb> hi!
  245. # [18:40] <@surkov> the work makes you worry? :)
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  247. # [18:41] <@surkov> usually you don't get here at weekends
  248. # [18:42] <@davidb> heh
  249. # [18:42] <@davidb> i just logged on to comment on the it bug :)
  250. # [18:42] <@surkov> interesting that you and ehsan joined to the channel the same time
  251. # [18:42] <@davidb> now i have to put furniture together
  252. # [18:42] <@davidb> we're not together
  253. # [18:42] <@surkov> ok :)
  254. # [18:43] <@davidb> ok i might be on tomorrow - ping me if you need anything :)
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  259. # [19:13] <@tbsaunde> surkov: so, your saying in future you want to allow reparenting?
  260. # [19:13] <@surkov> tbsaunde: yes
  261. # [19:13] <@surkov> that's too unperformant and in most cases unnecessary
  262. # [19:14] <@surkov> we had that prior Firefox 4 but since it was complicated to implement that right and I didn't have enough time for that then I decided to get rid that
  263. # [19:15] <@surkov> I added XXX comment under nsDocAccessible::RecreateAccessible
  264. # [19:15] <@surkov> :)
  265. # [19:15] <@tbsaunde> yeah, I didn't really follow what that comment wanted
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