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- # Session Start: Tue Feb 28 00:00:00 2012
- # Session Ident: #accessibility
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- # [01:04] <@firebot> akeybl@mozilla.com granted approval-mozilla-beta for attachment 600415 on bug 718235.
- # [01:04] <@firebot> akeybl@mozilla.com granted approval-mozilla-aurora for attachment 600415 on bug 718235.
- # [01:04] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=718235 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [SeaMonkey] "a11y/accessible/events/test_focus_general.html | Doubled event { event type: focus, tar
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- # [03:37] <@tbsaunde> surkov: so, for bug 421242 I'm a little worried bout the perf cost of QI to nsIDOMDOcumentXBL each time we call next() and we're looking through an xbl tree
- # [03:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421242 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, allow relations in anonymous content for binding parent
- # [03:37] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 731091 filed by jamie@nvaccess.org.
- # [03:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=731091 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, menuStart accessible event fired on sub-menu after focus event for focused item
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- # [03:44] <@surkov> tbsaunde: it shouldn't noticeable againsts GetAnonymousElementByAttribute which is all subtlee iteration
- # [03:48] <@tbsaunde> surkov: yeah, I supose so
- # [03:49] <@surkov> also I don't think we have much relations in xbl
- # [03:49] <@surkov> so when you create iterator then in 90% of code that query doesn't happen
- # [03:50] <@surkov> of code -> of cases
- # [03:54] <@tbsaunde> surkov: yeah, makes sense
- # [03:55] <@tbsaunde> then the patch seems fine to me, but I'm not really sure I know enough about xbl to say its acutally correct, thoughts?
- # [04:01] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ^
- # [04:02] <@surkov> tbsaunde: was it changed too much? actually it won't' regress because of automated testing but sure that means you can miss some unnice xbl stuff
- # [04:07] <@surkov> tbsaunde: you could ask Olli for feedback
- # [04:58] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 601160 on bug 728907.
- # [04:58] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=728907 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, don't use GetComputedStyle for text attributes
- # [05:00] <@tbsaunde> surkov: no, I think the existing behavior is probably still working, just not sure if it fixes anything
- # [05:01] <@tbsaunde> I was pulled away from my terminal for a while, I'll take another look and deal with it
- # [05:01] <@surkov> tbsaunde: got it, it is :)
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- # [06:19] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 598871 on bug 421242.
- # [06:19] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com requested feedback from the wind for attachment 598871 on bug 421242.
- # [06:19] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421242 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, allow relations in anonymous content for binding parent
- # [06:20] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com requested feedback from bugs@pettay.fi for attachment 598871 on bug 421242.
- # [06:25] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 601160 on bug 728907.
- # [06:26] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=728907 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, don't use GetComputedStyle for text attributes
- # [06:27] <@tbsaunde> surkov: were you planning to respond to my comment in the font family bug
- # [06:27] <@surkov> tbsaunde: it seems I missed it
- # [06:41] <@surkov> tbsaunde: done
- # [06:42] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ok, sounds good
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- # [06:51] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 601045 on bug 495912.
- # [06:51] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=495912 nor, --, ---, bolterbugz, NEW, Expose alternative content in Canvas element to ATs
- # [07:05] <@tbsaunde> surkov: I'm about to head out for the evening
- # [07:05] <@surkov> ok, see you later
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- # [11:20] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 601214 on bug 523304.
- # [11:20] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 523304 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
- # [11:20] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523304 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, expose text-underline-color and text-line-through-color text attributes
- # [11:20] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 601217 on bug 523304.
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- # [12:10] <@firebot> roc@ocallahan.org granted review for attachment 598488 on bug 495912.
- # [12:10] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=495912 nor, --, ---, bolterbugz, NEW, Expose alternative content in Canvas element to ATs
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- # [13:49] <@surkov> hi, tbsaunde
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- # [14:50] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 601253 on bug 728907.
- # [14:50] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=728907 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, don't use GetComputedStyle for text attributes
- # [15:09] <@tbsaunde> surkov: hi
- # [15:10] <@surkov> tbsaunde: what's review status of bug 473576?
- # [15:10] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=473576 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, font-family text attribute should expose actual font used
- # [15:10] <@tbsaunde> surkov: was waitin for you to comment, I'll do it next one I review
- # [15:10] <@tbsaunde> shouldn't take to long, but I just woke up
- # [15:11] <@surkov> ok
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- # [15:34] <@davidb> hi all!
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- # [15:40] <@davidb> surkov: just sent you an email about csun
- # [15:40] <@surkov> davidb: ok thx
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- # [16:22] <@askalski> davidb, hi, I will start today a bit later, got a lot of stuff to do now :(
- # [16:32] <@davidb> askalski: ok thanks for letting me know
- # [16:32] <@askalski> davidb, are we having 1:1 today?
- # [16:33] <@davidb> askalski: sorry I can't today, how about tomorrow at the usual team meeting time?
- # [16:33] <@davidb> (there is no team meeting this week(
- # [16:33] <@davidb> ))
- # [16:34] <@askalski> davidb, ok. it's actually better, since I have no real progress now . still embedding code
- # [16:34] <@davidb> ok
- # [16:34] <@askalski> davidb, and fighting UNI
- # [16:35] <@davidb> surkov: is there an advantage to removing the visibility tests after they are already written and passing?
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- # [16:36] <@surkov> davidb: their value should be estimated by what they test, if they test something that's wrong then it's rather confusing tests
- # [16:37] <@davidb> surkov: I believe they are correct.
- # [16:38] <@surkov> davidb: you said there's a phase two that makes them incorrect, do I miss something?
- # [16:38] <@davidb> surkov: i can remove them - but it feels really strange to me
- # [16:38] <@davidb> surkov: i must have mis-spoke or i was talking about other tests.
- # [16:38] <@surkov> you shouldn't do what doesn't have a reason for you :)
- # [16:39] <@surkov> davidb: I meant, there's phase two that defines a boundaries, right? invisible and offscreen states are based on frame boundaries which are different from path
- # [16:39] <@davidb> the boundary and hit testing is what i think needs to be specified and done in phase 2, the visibility stuff i think needs to be the way it is now so that AT work
- # [16:40] <@surkov> you can't detect visibility state until you know boundaries, right?
- # [16:41] <@surkov> also spec says until paths are used boundaries are equal to canvas boundaries, that means all accessible are visible
- # [16:41] <@surkov> and not offscreen
- # [16:41] <@surkov> davidb ^
- # [16:41] <@davidb> sorry was chatting live with Enn
- # [16:42] <@davidb> I can delay adding them to phase 2.
- # [16:42] <@davidb> surkov: are you around for a bit? I'll try to wrap this up soon
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- # [16:43] <@surkov> davidb: I am
- # [16:43] <@davidb> great
- # [16:47] <@davidb> surkov: do you care if we have the tree update stuff tested for canvas (anywhere)?
- # [16:47] <@surkov> davidb: rephrase question please
- # [16:48] <@davidb> surkov: the tests for visibility = hidden resulting in an empty tree. do you care if i move it or just not test it?
- # [16:48] <@surkov> davidb: that should be part of treeupdate
- # [16:48] <@davidb> surkov: yes. if we test it.
- # [16:48] <@davidb> surkov: do you care if we test it?
- # [16:49] <@surkov> I think we should test it
- # [16:49] <@davidb> alrighty
- # [16:49] <@davidb> surkov: where in tree update would you like it?
- # [16:49] <@surkov> you can add new file for canvas
- # [16:49] <@davidb> and just test the hidden empty tree ?
- # [16:50] <@davidb> surkov: i want to know the details of what you would like to see.
- # [16:50] <@davidb> and just write it once
- # [16:51] <@surkov> just display: none, (remove dom or change visibility) and see if tree is updated
- # [16:51] <@davidb> ok
- # [16:51] <@surkov> then you can add test for opposite case (display: something or etc)
- # [16:52] <@davidb> sigh, i have a gnome advisory board meeting in 15
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- # [17:44] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 601286 on bug 473569.
- # [17:44] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 473569 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
- # [17:44] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=473569 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, Restrict text-position to allowed values
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- # [18:28] <@askalski> surkov, where can I find sorting functions in xpcom?
- # [18:28] <@surkov> I'm not sure if there are some general sorting function, maybe arrays have something
- # [18:28] <@surkov> look at glue folder
- # [18:29] <@surkov> askalski: ping NeilAway on #developers
- # [18:29] <@askalski> surkov, thanks
- # [18:29] <@surkov> yw
- # [18:34] <@firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 729831 from NEW to RESOLVED.
- # [18:34] <@firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 729831 to FIXED.
- # [18:34] <@firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 729831 from --- to mozilla13.
- # [18:34] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=729831 cri, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, Crash @ mozilla::a11y::StyleInfo::Margin
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- # [18:35] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 731276 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
- # [18:35] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from askalski@mozilla.co m for attachment 601302 on bug 731276.
- # [18:35] <@firebot> Bug 731276 was not found.
- # [18:38] <@tbsaunde> askalski: does nsTArray::Sort() / work?
- # [18:38] <@tbsaunde> it appears it uses a quick sort impl if not you could probably use that
- # [18:38] <@askalski> tbsaunde, not yet, now I am trying to port two things
- # [18:40] <@tbsaunde> askalski: why?
- # [18:40] <@tbsaunde> s in what are you sorting that isn't an nsTArray?
- # [18:41] <@askalski> tbsaunde, right now I have a gazilion compile errors, I'll get to sorting later :D
- # [18:41] <@askalski> tbsaunde, that's what I ment
- # [18:42] <@tbsaunde> oh, ok
- # [18:43] <@firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 730841 from NEW to RESOLVED.
- # [18:43] <@firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 730841 to FIXED.
- # [18:43] <@firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 730841 from --- to mozilla13.
- # [18:43] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=730841 nor, --, mozilla13, trev.saunders, RESO FIXED, call atk_object_set_parent() less
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- # [18:55] <@tbsaunde> surkov: I assume in bug 473756 you meant you'd fix those things before landing?
- # [18:55] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=473756 min, --, ---, nobody, RESO INCOMPLETE, Pressing the Junk button doesn't always mark all the selected messages
- # [18:55] <@tbsaunde> er, 473576
- # [18:56] <@surkov> tbsaunde: iirc I fixed two nits: comment and switch in js
- # [18:56] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 600898 on bug 473576.
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- # [18:56] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=473576 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, font-family text attribute should expose actual font used
- # [18:57] <@surkov> thx, my queue is unlocked :)
- # [18:59] <@tbsaunde> surkov: yeah, that sounds correct
- # [18:59] <@surkov> ok
- # [19:01] <Delo> Op me
- # [19:01] <Delo> Hello all
- # [19:02] <Delo> Thanx dear
- # [19:02] <@tbsaunde> Delo: who are you?
- # [19:03] <Delo> Ok thanx
- # [19:03] <Delo> And u
- # [19:04] <@tbsaunde> surkov: preference what I review next?
- # [19:04] <@surkov> sec
- # [19:05] <@surkov> tbsaunde: bug 523304
- # [19:05] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523304 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, expose text-underline-color and text-line-through-color text attributes
- # [19:06] <Delo> bot lol
- # [19:06] <Delo> Thanx bot
- # [19:07] <Delo> @ me
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- # [19:11] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ok
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- # [19:13] <@askalski> surkov, in TextUpdater, where from the Substring comes from?
- # [19:13] <@askalski> surkov, eclipse finds like 10 definitions
- # [19:13] <@askalski> in FF code
- # [19:14] <@surkov> askalski: I think from nsTSubsting or something
- # [19:14] <@surkov> look at xpcom/strings
- # [19:15] <@askalski> surkov, right
- # [19:15] <@askalski> surkov, it does not copy the string, right? it just does a reference?
- # [19:15] <@surkov> yes
- # [19:15] <@askalski> surkov, great, I needed that very much
- # [19:16] <@surkov> ok
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- # [19:18] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 731287 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
- # [19:18] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 601316 on bug 731287.
- # [19:18] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=731287 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, don't use GetComputedStyle for background-color in HTML table layout guess
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- # [19:24] <@askalski> surkov, I see you're firing events on substitution, insertion and deletion in this text updating ComputeTextChangeEvents, right?
- # [19:24] <@askalski> surkov, and to do that, you use full entries array, is that right?
- # [19:25] <@surkov> iirc yes
- # [19:25] <@askalski> surkov, darn, I should have noticed that earlier ...
- # [19:26] <@surkov> memory or speed optimization didn't take that into account?
- # [19:27] <@askalski> surkov, not directly. I know how to deduce all entity values from what I have computed right now, the entire algorithm is just about computing only determining values
- # [19:28] <@askalski> surkov, it's just that I should have added cost of this computation into account
- # [19:28] <@askalski> surkov, this deduction thing
- # [19:28] <@surkov> I see
- # [19:28] <@askalski> surkov, anyway, I know that diff uses the same algorithm
- # [19:29] <@askalski> surkov, and it does calculate necessary data somewhere on the line
- # [19:29] <@askalski> surkov, so I'll look into it
- # [19:29] <@surkov> ok
- # [19:29] <@askalski> surkov, is there a reason why you fire the events starting from the final cell?
- # [19:29] <@askalski> surkov, other than it's the easiest way to reconstruct the path
- # [19:30] <@surkov> no "front-end" reason
- # [19:30] <@surkov> if you ask about this
- # [19:30] <@askalski> surkov, or said other way: is there any particular order in which the events should be fired?
- # [19:30] <@askalski> surkov, or can I do it anyway
- # [19:31] <@surkov> order doesn't matter, you just need to be consistent, so superposition of events should give you a string
- # [19:34] <@askalski> surkov, thanks
- # [19:38] <@surkov> yw
- # [19:40] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 601321 on bug 731287.
- # [19:40] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=731287 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, don't use GetComputedStyle for background-color in HTML table layout guess
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- # [21:28] <@firebot> johan.charlez@gmail.com cancelled feedback?(gavin.sharp@gmail .com) for attachment 597454 on bug 713052.
- # [21:28] <@firebot> johan.charlez@gmail.com requested review from gavin.sharp@gmail.c om for attachment 601364 on bug 713052.
- # [21:28] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=713052 nor, --, ---, johan.charlez, NEW, Add preference for disabling ALT-clicks to save links.
- # [21:30] <@firebot> gavin.sharp@gmail.com granted review for attachment 601364 on bug 713052.
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