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  1. # Session Start: Sat Mar 17 00:00:00 2012
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  6. # [01:03] <@firebot> fmdevelopertim@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 736349 from Keyboard Navigation to Untriaged.
  7. # [01:03] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=736349 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Ctrl-T shortcut does not work
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  11. # [01:27] <rillian_lime> hi everyone
  12. # [01:27] <rillian_lime> I'm trying to test the orca screen reader
  13. # [01:28] <rillian_lime> I kinda have the hang of getting it to read things in the terminal, using the numpad to move the reader cursor around
  14. # [01:28] <rillian_lime> but it doesn't seem to do anything with firefox at all
  15. # [01:28] <rillian_lime> this is on Fedora 15
  16. # [01:28] <rillian_lime> is there something special I have to do?
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  67. # [14:02] <Mark_Capella> Anyone: If I want to modify / test a11y code, do I need to rebuild the whole browser as I've been doing?
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  69. # [14:03] <fxa90id> no
  70. # [14:03] <Mark_Capella> no is what I suspected ... can you elaborate?
  71. # [14:04] <fxa90id> make -C ${OBJDIR}/acccessible/
  72. # [14:04] <fxa90id> but Im not sure
  73. # [14:05] <fxa90id> should work also make -C accessible/
  74. # [14:07] <Mark_Capella> so under windows i'll do something like python -OO build/pymake/make.py -C obj/accessible
  75. # [14:09] <Mark_Capella> Hmmm .... just tried ... took 30 secs vs 20 mins for a whole build
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  77. # [14:16] <Mark_Capella> Anyone: I've figured out how to use WiNDEV to debug the browser in general, debugging a11y starting from mochitests seems different / isn't working ... has anyone here any experience?
  78. # [14:24] <fxa90id> what ?
  79. # [14:24] <fxa90id> :D
  80. # [14:25] <Mark_Capella> I'd like to fire off a mochitest, and watch the code execute with the debugger
  81. # [14:28] <Mark_Capella> test_obj_group.html calls into accgroupinfo.cpp to retrieve accessible group information ... I want to see it work
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  83. # [14:32] <Mark_Capella> If I start the VC 10Express and attach it to ... what? process cmd.exe? firefox.exe? python.exe? all are available...
  84. # [14:36] <Mark_Capella> Oh cool ! I just got it while here talking to myself :-P
  85. # [14:38] <Mark_Capella> :D . o O ( surkov will be so proud )
  86. # [14:46] <fxa90id> true
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  104. # [17:06] <@davidb> tbsaunde|afk: how are you this morning?
  105. # [17:08] <@tbsaunde|afk> davidb: ok
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  107. # [17:08] <@tbsaunde> davidb: you?
  108. # [17:09] <@davidb> I'm well, just tired.
  109. # [17:09] <@davidb> Was at a children's birthday party all morning :)
  110. # [17:09] <@tbsaunde> heh, I just showered
  111. # [17:10] <@tbsaunde> I got up at nine realized I was still a little tipsey and went back to bed
  112. # [17:10] <@davidb> heh
  113. # [17:10] <@davidb> yeah, dangerous to drink vodka with a russian
  114. # [17:10] <@davidb> live and learn
  115. # [17:10] <@tbsaunde> heh
  116. # [17:10] <@davidb> tbsaunde: glad your alive. I woke Alex up with a phone call about 10 minutes ago as well.
  117. # [17:11] <@davidb> take care, I gotta go.
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  119. # [17:17] <fxa90id> tbsaunde, :D
  120. # [17:17] <fxa90id> hi
  121. # [17:21] <@tbsaunde> fxa90id: hi
  122. # [17:21] <fxa90id> hi
  123. # [17:21] <fxa90id> I attach patch
  124. # [17:22] <@tbsaunde> fxa90id: ok, will look at it soon, didn't get any work done yesterday
  125. # [17:22] <fxa90id> ok
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  128. # [17:36] <@tbsaunde> morning surkov :)
  129. # [17:37] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested feedback from surkov.alexander@ gmail.com for attachment 606876 on bug 735136.
  130. # [17:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735136 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, get rid of nsHTMLSelectOptionAccessible::GetPositionAndSizeInternal
  131. # [17:37] <fxa90id> surkov,
  132. # [17:37] <fxa90id> good afternoon :D
  133. # [17:37] <@surkov> hey, tbsaunde !
  134. # [17:37] <fxa90id> I attach patch :)
  135. # [17:38] <fxa90id> would you like be so nice and check it :) ?
  136. # [17:38] <@surkov> are you working?
  137. # [17:38] <fxa90id> who ?
  138. # [17:38] <fxa90id> :D
  139. # [17:38] <@surkov> tbsaunde: :)
  140. # [17:38] <@surkov> fxa90id: well, I can take a look :)
  141. # [17:38] <fxa90id> ok
  142. # [17:38] <fxa90id> because I cant do nothing
  143. # [17:38] <fxa90id> if something is not done ;/
  144. # [17:38] <fxa90id> and I waste all day :D
  145. # [17:39] <@surkov> yep, you shouldn't do that
  146. # [17:39] <fxa90id> Im talking about anything
  147. # [17:39] <@surkov> what's bug number?
  148. # [17:39] <fxa90id> 727722
  149. # [17:39] <fxa90id> I cant even eat
  150. # [17:39] <fxa90id> :<
  151. # [17:39] <@tbsaunde> surkov: well, reading all my mail :)
  152. # [17:39] <@surkov> yep, that's a problem
  153. # [17:39] <@tbsaunde> so starting work yeah
  154. # [17:40] <@surkov> you're hero, tbsaunde ;)
  155. # [17:40] <@surkov> tbsaunde: then maybe you wouldn't mind to review bug 727722?
  156. # [17:40] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727722 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Create an accessible for HTML table row by frame
  157. # [17:41] <@tbsaunde> surkov: heh, and yeah was about to if you aren't :)
  158. # [17:41] <fxa90id> :)
  159. # [17:41] <@surkov> ok, great :)
  160. # [17:41] <fxa90id> :P
  161. # [17:41] <fxa90id> I change also my display name :)
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  166. # [17:56] <@tbsaunde> fxa90id: commented
  167. # [18:01] <jhk> tbsaunde: ping
  168. # [18:06] <@tbsaunde> jhk: hi
  169. # [18:07] <jhk> bug 726005 Is there any way we can get nsDocAccessible* inside nsTextEquivUtils?
  170. # [18:07] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726005 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, IDRefsIterator::Next() should use nsDocAccessible::GetAccessible()
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  172. # [18:09] <jhk> tbsaunde:^
  173. # [18:11] <@tbsaunde> jhk: yeah, looking
  174. # [18:11] <@tbsaunde> jhk: which document do you want? the one the accessible is in?
  175. # [18:11] <jhk> yes..
  176. # [18:11] <@tbsaunde> (the accessible we are computing the name of)
  177. # [18:12] <@tbsaunde> jhk: then why not use accesisble->Document()?
  178. # [18:14] <jhk> right..thanks tbsaunde:)
  179. # [18:16] <@tbsaunde> np
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  182. # [18:22] <fxa90id> tbsaunde, commented = rejected
  183. # [18:22] <fxa90id> :D
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  185. # [18:25] <@firebot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com requested feedback from surkov.alexander@ gmail.com for attachment 606883 on bug 726005.
  186. # [18:25] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726005 nor, --, ---, jigneshhk1992, NEW, IDRefsIterator::Next() should use nsDocAccessible::GetAccessible()
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  194. # [19:57] <vovik> complete beginner here
  195. # [19:57] <vovik> anyone know how to create a dummy element that i can use as an aria-label
  196. # [19:57] <vovik> i don't want it to be visible to sighted users
  197. # [20:12] <vovik> i had a header called Todos that's being pronounced "toe does". is there a way to make voiceover pronounce it as "to dos"?
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  204. # [20:52] <@tbsaunde> surkov: what's up?
  205. # [20:53] <@surkov> ah, sitting in the lobby, thinking about options I can do
  206. # [20:53] <@tbsaunde> surkov: heh, I just walked through a minute ago
  207. # [20:53] <@surkov> oh, I didn't see you
  208. # [20:54] <@surkov> maybe I got here after you
  209. # [20:54] <@surkov> what do you do?
  210. # [20:54] <@tbsaunde> surkov: not really sure, sitting in my room figuring out what to do
  211. # [20:54] <@surkov> ok, did you have some food?
  212. # [20:56] <@tbsaunde> surkov: a bit ago, interested in eating?
  213. # [20:56] <@surkov> yep, not sure but thinking about this
  214. # [20:57] <@tbsaunde> ok, does it make sense for me to wander down?
  215. # [20:58] <@surkov> yeah, we could move somewhere
  216. # [20:58] <@tbsaunde> ok, be down in a minute
  217. # [21:00] <fxa90id> tbsaunde, how to fix this indentations ?
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  232. # [23:22] <@tbsaunde> fxa90id: arguments on the next line should start in the same column as the first argument
  233. # [23:22] <@tbsaunde> fxa90id: look at the style used other places
  234. # [23:38] <fxa90id> Im giving 2 spaces ;(
  235. # [23:38] <fxa90id> but what if argument is too long ?
  236. # [23:38] <fxa90id> over 80 chars ?
  237. # [23:42] <@tbsaunde> then wrap it if you can break it somewhere or change the beging so it isn't so far right or just go over 80 chars if you have to
  238. # [23:43] <fxa90id> cant :D
  239. # [23:43] <fxa90id> surkov said to not break 80 chars
  240. # [23:43] <fxa90id> its my red line :D
  241. # [23:53] <fxa90id> tbsaunde, this what surkov said
  242. # [23:53] <fxa90id> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo
  243. # [23:54] <@tbsaunde> fxa90id: he's also said over eight y is fine if there is nothing better
  244. # [23:54] <fxa90id> ok :D
  245. # [23:54] <fxa90id> :)
  246. # [23:54] <fxa90id> ill fix my spaces
  247. # Session Close: Sun Mar 18 00:00:00 2012

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