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  8. # [01:17] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 608149 on bug 718627.
  9. # [01:17] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=718627 nor, P1, ---, hub, NEW, [Mac] Navigating by character, or interacting with, the text in the awesome bar does not speak the c
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  17. # [02:30] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 608175 on bug 736944.
  18. # [02:30] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 736944 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  19. # [02:31] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=736944 cri, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, crash in nsAccTreeWalker::NextChildInternal @ nsIFrame::IsGeneratedContentFrame
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  41. # [05:22] <@firebot> sgautherie.bz@free.fr changed the Status on bug 736905 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED.
  42. # [05:22] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=736905 maj, P2, mozilla14, sgautherie.bz, VERI FIXED, [SeaMonkey] "a11y/accessible/relations/test_ui_modalprompt.html | Test timed out."
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  47. # [06:08] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 738146 filed by sgautherie.bz@free.fr.
  48. # [06:08] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738146 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [SeaMonkey] "treeupdate/test_imagemap.html | Test timed out."
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  66. # [09:42] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested feedback from surkov.alexander@ gmail.com for attachment 608260 on bug 686909.
  67. # [09:42] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686909 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, The system suffix is for system generated events only
  68. # [09:55] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted feedback for attachment 608260 on bug 686909.
  69. # [09:55] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686909 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, The system suffix is for system generated events only
  70. # [09:58] <Mark_Capella> <--- does a little happy dance :)
  71. # [10:00] <@surkov> yeah, nice work
  72. # [10:01] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 608260 on bug 686909.
  73. # [10:01] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled feedback+ for attachment 608260 on bug 686909.
  74. # [10:03] <@surkov> Mark_Capella: if one day you decide to go for l3 then you have my vote, so you need one more
  75. # [10:04] <Mark_Capella> what does that mean? "13'...? bugs completed?
  76. # [10:04] <Mark_Capella> ohhhhhhhhhhh ... L3 ! thanks Alex :)
  77. # [10:07] <Mark_Capella> Is Bug 737156 - Map role=note to IA2 role NOTE instead of SECTION
  78. # [10:07] <Mark_Capella> really an OS/X bug?
  79. # [10:07] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737156 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Map role=note to IA2 role NOTE instead of SECTION
  80. # [10:09] <@surkov> Mark_Capella: yep crossplatform bug
  81. # [10:11] <Mark_Capella> what I mean is ... I develop in WIN7 ... this looks like something I can fix /test anyhow
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  85. # [10:31] <@surkov> Mark_Capella: that's right
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  88. # [10:33] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com changed the Status on bug 737156 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  89. # [10:33] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737156 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Map role=note to IA2 role NOTE instead of SECTION
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  112. # [12:09] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 608114 on bug 718627.
  113. # [12:09] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=718627 nor, P1, ---, hub, NEW, [Mac] Navigating by character, or interacting with, the text in the awesome bar does not speak the c
  114. # [12:12] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested review from eitan@monotonous.or g for attachment 608294 on bug 737156.
  115. # [12:12] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737156 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, Map role=note to IA2 role NOTE instead of SECTION
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  117. # [12:40] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com changed the Status on bug 737724 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  118. # [12:40] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737724 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, make IsDefunct() inline
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  122. # [13:20] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 446469 from --- to mozilla13.
  123. # [13:20] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=446469 nor, --, mozilla13, evan.yan, ASSI, Missing and/or incorrect object:state-changed:busy event when downloading files
  124. # [13:20] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 446469 from mozilla13 to ---.
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  131. # [13:36] <@firebot> jidanni@jidanni.org changed the Component on bug 738218 from Untriaged to Disability Access.
  132. # [13:36] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738218 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, TAB vs. HOME keys vs. current link
  133. # [13:51] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 738221 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  134. # [13:51] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738221 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, get rid nsIAccessibilityService
  135. # [13:56] <@tbsaunde> \O/
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  138. # [14:12] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested feedback from trev.saunders@gma il.com for attachment 608311 on bug 737724.
  139. # [14:12] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737724 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, make IsDefunct() inline
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  143. # [14:17] * @davidb is tempted to drive-by r+ the role note patch
  144. # [14:17] <@davidb> hi all!
  145. # [14:18] <clown> hi davidb
  146. # [14:18] <clown> deja vu
  147. # [14:18] <@davidb> hee
  148. # [14:19] <Mark_Capella> well then please do :)
  149. # [14:19] <Mark_Capella> and Alex said to ask you for a T-shirt :)
  150. # [14:19] <@davidb> Mark_Capella: yes sir. email me the details
  151. # [14:20] <@davidb> surkov: what's your opinion on drive-by reviews?
  152. # [14:20] <@surkov> davidb: what is that?
  153. # [14:20] <@davidb> surkov: reviewing a patch when not asked.
  154. # [14:21] <@davidb> i might have made up the phrase
  155. # [14:21] <@surkov> davidb: I always try to get assignee to ask someone when I see new patch is filed
  156. # [14:21] <@davidb> surkov: eitan is asked.
  157. # [14:21] <Mark_Capella> one of my first bug assignments was a drive by patch drop
  158. # [14:21] <@davidb> heh
  159. # [14:22] <Mark_Capella> . o O ( who was that guy??? ) :)
  160. # [14:22] <@davidb> :)
  161. # [14:22] <@surkov> davidb: It seems I don't follow you, so eitan was asked and?
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  163. # [14:23] <@surkov> you wonder if somebody else appears and does review?
  164. # [14:23] <@davidb> surkov: how do you feel about X (peer) additionally reviewing a patch unasked, when Y is asked for review.?
  165. # [14:23] <@surkov> perfectly fine
  166. # [14:23] <@davidb> hahaha
  167. # [14:24] <@davidb> good
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  169. # [14:24] <@surkov> well if other peer has something to say or wants to review then sure he should go ahead
  170. # [14:24] <@davidb> yeah I think that can be true of any patch or even landing
  171. # [14:25] <@davidb> or the weather
  172. # [14:25] <@surkov> probably he shouldn't cancel original request until he make sure original reviewer is fine with that
  173. # [14:25] <@davidb> yeah i wouldn't cancel
  174. # [14:25] <@surkov> ok :)
  175. # [14:26] <@surkov> to be 3d is ok in reviewing :)
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  177. # [14:29] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com granted review for attachment 608294 on bug 737156.
  178. # [14:29] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737156 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, Map role=note to IA2 role NOTE instead of SECTION
  179. # [14:31] <@davidb> i so love Thursday mornings (no meetings)
  180. # [14:31] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 738218 from Disability Access to Keyboard: Navigation.
  181. # [14:32] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Product on bug 738218 from Firefox to Core.
  182. # [14:32] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738218 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, TAB vs. HOME keys vs. current link
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  185. # [14:35] <@MarcoZ> Hello all!
  186. # [14:38] <@davidb> hi!
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  189. # [15:08] <@tbsaunde> morning
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  191. # [15:08] <@MarcoZ> Morning tbsaunde!
  192. # [15:08] <@MarcoZ> davidb: When do you think we can skype?
  193. # [15:09] <@davidb> oh I'm trying out a standing desk ATM - how about in 20 mins or so?
  194. # [15:09] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Sounds good!
  195. # [15:09] <@davidb> thanks
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  197. # [15:15] <@davidb> MarcoZ: so looks like pdf.js landed as an extension?
  198. # [15:15] <@davidb> We might want to blog about what to expect, how to turn on/off etc.
  199. # [15:16] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Yes it looks like that. I haven't looked whether my nightly build has it yet, so have not tested what's there yet.
  200. # [15:16] <@davidb> ok
  201. # [15:17] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Oh, it only landed today, so tomorrow's nihtly will be the one where I can test it.
  202. # [15:17] <@davidb> yep
  203. # [15:18] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Have you managed to dig into the problem more where only one of the three weather lines updates to Celsius in the Canvas demo?
  204. # [15:18] <@davidb> sadly not yet
  205. # [15:18] <@davidb> i seem to recall the dom being incorrect
  206. # [15:18] <@davidb> not just the a11y tree
  207. # [15:19] <@davidb> going over bug mail still ATM
  208. # [15:21] <@davidb> surkov: heh was your 3d comment about reviewing related to bug 718627 comment 35?
  209. # [15:21] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=718627 nor, P1, ---, hub, NEW, [Mac] Navigating by character, or interacting with, the text in the awesome bar does not speak the c
  210. # [15:22] <@surkov> davidb: sounds so
  211. # [15:22] <@davidb> ok i finally got it
  212. # [15:24] <@davidb> surkov: bug 738232 sounds nice. i wonder if it would be better as its on add-on? you could display stuff in the status bar.
  213. # [15:24] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738232 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, ability to inspect accessible text attributes
  214. # [15:25] <@davidb> its on/it's own
  215. # [15:25] <@surkov> davidb: add-on to DOMi or?
  216. # [15:25] <@davidb> standalone
  217. # [15:26] <@davidb> just thinking out loud
  218. # [15:26] <@surkov> who's going to maintain it?
  219. # [15:26] <@davidb> same person
  220. # [15:26] <@davidb> i guess it adds overhead
  221. # [15:28] <@MarcoZ> surkov: davidb: The danger with an extension to an exension is that it isn't easily discoverable. Having the functionality within one extension would be much preferred I think.
  222. # [15:32] <@davidb> ok not gonna get through all the bugs i want to look at yet. Marcoz me-> phone room - skype?
  223. # [15:32] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Perfect!
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  241. # [17:33] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org granted review for attachment 608294 on bug 737156.
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  243. # [17:33] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737156 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, Map role=note to IA2 role NOTE instead of SECTION
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  245. # [17:42] <@firebot> michaljev@o2.pl requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 606986 on bug 734566.
  246. # [17:42] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=734566 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, optimize layout of TextAttrsMgr
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  253. # [18:23] <@davidb> surkov: ping
  254. # [18:23] <@davidb> how can you be awake?
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  260. # [19:26] <Mark_Capella> ahhhhhh ... so 1 means TRUE ...
  261. # [19:27] <fxa90id> :D
  262. # [19:27] <fxa90id> exactly
  263. # [19:27] <Mark_Capella> had my bits twiddled backwards :(
  264. # [19:27] <fxa90id> how its going ? Mark_Capella
  265. # [19:27] <Mark_Capella> fxa90id: good - u?
  266. # [19:27] <fxa90id> too thank you :)
  267. # [19:28] <fxa90id> what are you working on ?
  268. # [19:28] <Mark_Capella> kept looking @ the simple code ... smacked myself around 5 mins later
  269. # [19:28] <fxa90id> simple code ?
  270. # [19:28] <fxa90id> what's that ?
  271. # [19:29] <Mark_Capella> bug#737724 in this case ... simple code like x = 1 for TRUE, 0 for FALSE ...
  272. # [19:29] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737724 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, make IsDefunct() inline
  273. # [19:29] <Mark_Capella> had them != and &= ~ reversed
  274. # [19:30] <Mark_Capella> bad hacker .... bad bad bad !
  275. # [19:31] <fxa90id> ;p
  276. # [19:31] <fxa90id> dont worry
  277. # [19:31] <fxa90id> I'm worster then you :-)
  278. # [19:32] <Mark_Capella> and my favorite languages are all assembly ... was up too late
  279. # [19:32] <@davidb> Mark_Capella: lol - that explains the test failures
  280. # [19:33] <Mark_Capella> yep ... every test fails ... wonders why ... then DUH moment
  281. # [19:34] <@davidb> heheh
  282. # [19:35] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com cancelled feedback?(trev.saunders@gma il.com) for attachment 608311 on bug 737724.
  283. # [19:35] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 608402 on bug 737724.
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  287. # [19:47] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com changed the Status on bug 734982 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  288. # [19:47] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=734982 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, Map ARIA role "form".
  289. # [19:48] <fxa90id> hmm
  290. # [19:49] <fxa90id> Mark_Capella, how to set assigned ?
  291. # [19:49] <Mark_Capella> under additional comments box @ bottom ... drop down box status:
  292. # [19:51] <@davidb> fxa90id: you need edit bugs power i think
  293. # [19:51] <fxa90id> oh :D
  294. # [19:51] <fxa90id> I dont have it
  295. # [19:52] <@davidb> you've fixed bugs right?
  296. # [19:52] <@davidb> sorry i'm slow today
  297. # [19:52] <fxa90id> I already fix one
  298. # [19:52] <fxa90id> I think so
  299. # [19:52] <@davidb> fxa90id: bug #?
  300. # [19:52] <fxa90id> and Its marked as First Patch :D
  301. # [19:53] <fxa90id> 727722
  302. # [19:53] <@davidb> heh
  303. # [19:53] <fxa90id> Im not sure what it means
  304. # [19:53] <@davidb> excellent
  305. # [19:53] <fxa90id> why ?
  306. # [19:54] <fxa90id> now Im working on 734982
  307. # [19:57] <@davidb> fxa90id: you have edit bug powers - please use responsibly.
  308. # [19:57] <fxa90id> thx a lot :)
  309. # [19:57] <@davidb> thank you
  310. # [19:57] <fxa90id> no I thank you
  311. # [19:57] <fxa90id> :P
  312. # [19:57] <@davidb> ok i gotta run - back online later
  313. # [19:57] <@davidb> heh
  314. # [19:57] <fxa90id> now I can assign my self to bugs
  315. # [19:57] <fxa90id> :)
  316. # [19:58] <@davidb> do as you must :)
  317. # [19:58] <fxa90id> I think it is not a must
  318. # [19:58] <fxa90id> nobody stills my bugs :P
  319. # [19:59] <fxa90id> anwyay me to gotta run
  320. # [19:59] <fxa90id> brb
  321. # [20:02] <@davidb> :)
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  336. # [21:01] <@hub> still trying to figure out what surkov meant with "3d"
  337. # [21:01] <@hub> re bug 718627 comment 35
  338. # [21:01] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=718627 nor, P1, ---, hub, NEW, [Mac] Navigating by character, or interacting with, the text in the awesome bar does not speak the c
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  340. # [21:06] <@eeejay> hub, he means ask for review when the 3rd point is addressed
  341. # [21:07] <@hub> ah
  342. # [21:08] <@hub> because he set it to r+
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  344. # [21:12] <@eeejay> all of this js, that controls the vc, and listens and presents a11y events..
  345. # [21:12] <@eeejay> i am trying to find a good name for it besides "mobile"
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  355. # [22:16] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 608115 on bug 718627.
  356. # [22:16] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=718627 nor, P1, ---, hub, NEW, [Mac] Navigating by character, or interacting with, the text in the awesome bar does not speak the c
  357. # [22:16] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 608468 on bug 718627.
  358. # [22:25] <@davidb> eeejay: "slartibartfast"
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  360. # [22:25] <@eeejay> bye!
  361. # [22:27] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 738459 filed by hub@mozilla.com.
  362. # [22:27] <@firebot> Bug 738459 was not found.
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  364. # [22:32] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 738460 filed by hub@mozilla.com.
  365. # [22:32] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738460 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [Mac] HTML Lists should have the proper subrole
  366. # [23:04] <@tbsaunde> eeejay: if it were me I'd ask people involved with the mobile ui
  367. # [23:04] <@eeejay> tbsaunde, it is more a aquestion of what to name the damned directory
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