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  1. # Session Start: Mon Apr 02 00:00:00 2012
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  10. # [01:53] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 611311 on bug 735645.
  11. # [01:53] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735645 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, expose sub and sup elements in text attributes
  12. # [02:18] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 611312 on bug 723424.
  13. # [02:18] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com requested feedback from surkov.alexander@gmail.com for attachment 611312 on bug 723424.
  14. # [02:18] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723424 nor, --, ---, orangedaylily, NEW, dexpcom GetUnignoredParent()
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  18. # [03:27] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 611335 on bug 735645.
  19. # [03:27] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735645 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, expose sub and sup elements in text attributes
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  22. # [04:37] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted feedback for attachment 611312 on bug 723424.
  23. # [04:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723424 nor, --, ---, orangedaylily, NEW, dexpcom GetUnignoredParent()
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  26. # [05:36] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739253 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, optimize AccEvent::GetDocAccessible
  27. # [05:50] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 611249 on bug 737379.
  28. # [05:50] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737379 tri, --, ---, junky.argonaut, NEW, change Comments to roles::ROLENAME
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  33. # [06:33] <@tbsaunde> surkov: hi
  34. # [06:34] <@surkov> hi, tbsaunde
  35. # [06:39] <@tbsaunde> surkov: look at the windows crash more?
  36. # [06:39] <@surkov> not yet
  37. # [06:39] <@surkov> did you?
  38. # [06:41] <@tbsaunde> not other than my one comment it might be similar to the linux one
  39. # [06:53] <@surkov> tbsaunde: maybe we can do partial back out?
  40. # [07:01] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 611335 on bug 735645.
  41. # [07:01] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735645 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, expose sub and sup elements in text attributes
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  45. # [07:08] <@tbsaunde> surkov: of which part?
  46. # [07:09] <@surkov> tbsaunde: I thought about getting back IsDefunct to document and trees
  47. # [07:09] <@surkov> tbsaunde: but I think we should try your idea first of all
  48. # [07:09] <@surkov> tbsaunde: how do you feel to mark that accessible as defunct?
  49. # [07:09] <@surkov> at creation time
  50. # [07:09] <@surkov> that'll be equivalent to old code
  51. # [07:11] <@tbsaunde> surkov: which? hte nsHTMLObjectwin32 thing?
  52. # [07:11] <@surkov> yes
  53. # [07:11] <@tbsaunde> sure I thought of that, hacky, but if you want to push making it eDfunct in the constructor r=me as a temporary thing
  54. # [07:16] <@surkov> ok
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  56. # [07:19] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 611349 on bug 740958.
  57. # [07:19] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 740958 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  58. # [07:19] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=740958 cri, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, crash in nsAccessible::GetBounds
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  61. # [07:25] <@tbsaunde> surkov: so, I assume you couldn't reproduce?
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  63. # [07:26] <@surkov> tbsaunde: yes, I didn't reproduced, not these crashes are about UIA that I don't know under which circumstances are running
  64. # [07:26] <@tbsaunde> surkov: oh, it involves uia interesting
  65. # [07:27] <@tbsaunde> have you seen uia stuff before, or does it seem like more people are starting to use uia?
  66. # [07:27] <@surkov> tbsaunde: MS considers UIA as electronic curb cut
  67. # [07:27] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 611349 on bug 740958.
  68. # [07:28] <@surkov> so they tend to use if for everything
  69. # [07:29] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ok
  70. # [07:30] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 610853 on bug 739524.
  71. # [07:30] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739524 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, replace TreeViewChanged DOM event on direct call from XUL tree
  72. # [07:31] <@tbsaunde> surkov: should we do telemetry for uia?
  73. # [07:31] <@surkov> tbsaunde: yes
  74. # [07:33] <@surkov> tbsaunde: wanna file a bug (uiautomationcore.dll)
  75. # [07:36] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ok
  76. # [07:37] <@surkov> thx!
  77. # [07:38] <@surkov> tbsaunde: I see you've got an agreement on bugs with those university guys
  78. # [07:39] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 611350 on bug 739524.
  79. # [07:41] <@tbsaunde> surkov: seems so :)
  80. # [07:41] <@surkov> cool
  81. # [07:45] <@firebot> orangedaylily@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 611354 on bug 723424.
  82. # [07:45] <@firebot> orangedaylily@gmail.com requested feedback from surkov.alexander@ gmail.com for attachment 611354 on bug 723424.
  83. # [07:45] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723424 nor, --, ---, orangedaylily, NEW, dexpcom GetUnignoredParent()
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  86. # [07:47] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 611354 on bug 723424.
  87. # [07:47] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted feedback for attachment 611354 on bug 723424.
  88. # [07:50] <@tbsaunde> surkov: there's now a released domi that's recent right?
  89. # [07:50] <@surkov> tbsaunde: yep, several days ago
  90. # [08:06] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 611039 on bug 718627.
  91. # [08:06] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=718627 nor, P1, ---, hub, ASSI, [Mac] Navigating by character, or interacting with, the text in the awesome bar does not speak the c
  92. # [08:08] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 611045 on bug 718627.
  93. # [08:10] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 611046 on bug 718627.
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  95. # [08:14] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 737379 from --- to mozilla14.
  96. # [08:14] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737379 tri, --, mozilla14, junky.argonaut, NEW, change Comments to roles::ROLENAME
  97. # [08:15] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 739193 from --- to mozilla14.
  98. # [08:15] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739193 nor, --, mozilla14, maxli, NEW, nsTextEquivUtils::AppendTextEquivFromContent shouldn't use GetAccService()->GetAccessible
  99. # [08:15] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 739253 from --- to mozilla14.
  100. # [08:15] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739253 nor, --, mozilla14, nickyekaiqi, NEW, optimize AccEvent::GetDocAccessible
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  105. # [08:47] <@tbsaunde> surkov: is there are reason we do all these crazy things in nsAccessibilityService instead of define a GetDocAccessible() taking a presShell?
  106. # [08:47] <@surkov> tbsaunde: there's a bug on this
  107. # [08:50] <@tbsaunde> oh :)
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  109. # [08:54] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 611350 on bug 739524.
  110. # [08:54] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739524 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, replace TreeViewChanged DOM event on direct call from XUL tree
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  115. # [09:03] <@firebot> orangedaylily@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 611368 on bug 723427.
  116. # [09:03] <@firebot> orangedaylily@gmail.com requested feedback from surkov.alexander@ gmail.com for attachment 611368 on bug 723427.
  117. # [09:03] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723427 nor, --, ---, orangedaylily, NEW, dexpcom GetUnignoredChildren()
  118. # [09:41] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 611367 on bug 652635.
  119. # [09:41] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=652635 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, Fallback missing @longdesc to aria-describedby pointing to <a href>
  120. # [09:45] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted feedback for attachment 611368 on bug 723427.
  121. # [09:45] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723427 nor, --, ---, orangedaylily, NEW, dexpcom GetUnignoredChildren()
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  123. # [10:13] <@firebot> orangedaylily@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 611368 on bug 723427.
  124. # [10:13] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723427 nor, --, ---, orangedaylily, NEW, dexpcom GetUnignoredChildren()
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  126. # [10:24] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org denied feedback for attachment 611270 on bug 670853.
  127. # [10:24] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=670853 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, undetermined progressmeters should expose mixed state
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  129. # [11:15] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 611367 on bug 652635.
  130. # [11:15] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=652635 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, Fallback missing @longdesc to aria-describedby pointing to <a href>
  131. # [11:23] <Mark_Capella> tbsaunde: do you see many more revisions in the future for Bug 652635 - Fallback missing @longdesc ?
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  133. # [11:32] <@tbsaunde> Mark_Capella: I don't think so most of those nits were pretty minor
  134. # [11:32] <Mark_Capella> coool B)
  135. # [11:33] <Mark_Capella> i want to start looking at a few new ones ... wondered how long to plan for this one
  136. # [11:34] <@tbsaunde> I'd think you could fairly quickly fix my nits and it'll be good :)
  137. # [11:37] <Mark_Capella> k - started playing with Bug 636945 - add downcasting for nsRootAccessible and got a
  138. # [11:37] <Mark_Capella> cannot convert from 'nsQueryObject<T>' to 'nsXULTreeAccessible*'
  139. # [11:37] <Mark_Capella> during build in nsRootAccessible.cpp ... lemme puruse that for a bit then ill get back to this
  140. # [11:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=636945 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, add downcasting for nsRootAccessible
  141. # [11:38] <Mark_Capella> wrong bug Bug 740725 - Add down-casting to nsXULTreeAccessible
  142. # [11:38] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=740725 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, Add down-casting to nsXULTreeAccessible
  143. # [11:40] <@tbsaunde> ok
  144. # [11:41] <@tbsaunde> I'm not sure if you want help with that or not...
  145. # [11:47] <@tbsaunde> surkov: were you going to comment in bug 740958?
  146. # [11:47] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=740958 cri, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, crash in nsAccessible::GetBounds
  147. # [11:47] <@surkov> tbsaunde: I landed it on central
  148. # [11:47] <Mark_Capella> tbsaunde: Instead of longDesc how about longDescURI ?
  149. # [11:48] <@tbsaunde> surkov: I saw :)
  150. # [11:48] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 740958 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
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  152. # [11:48] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 740958 to FIXED.
  153. # [11:48] <@tbsaunde> hopefully it makes the nightly :)
  154. # [11:48] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 740958 from --- to mozilla14.
  155. # [11:48] <@surkov> tbsaunde: ok, done :)
  156. # [11:49] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested feedback from trev.saunders@gma il.com for attachment 598787 on bug 726283.
  157. # [11:49] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726283 nor, --, ---, jigneshhk1992, ASSI, consider using NS_GetContentList() directly in nsHTMLRadioButtonAccessible::GetPositionAndSizeIntern
  158. # [12:07] <@tbsaunde> Mark_Capella: actually, I found a bit of a bug in your last patch for bug 652635
  159. # [12:07] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=652635 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, Fallback missing @longdesc to aria-describedby pointing to <a href>
  160. # [12:07] <Mark_Capella> k - lemme look....
  161. # [12:07] <@tbsaunde> if the element has longdesc set then you return the element, but when you get the uri to open you get the href attributes value
  162. # [12:08] <@tbsaunde> so, consider <img href="#blah" longdesc="#bar" src="foo.png">
  163. # [12:10] <@tbsaunde> Mark_Capella: you should probably change LongDesc() to LongDescURI(nsAstring&)
  164. # [12:11] <@tbsaunde> and just return the uri to open or the empty string if none
  165. # [12:17] <Mark_Capella> ok - we've changed names around a lot between the three of us ... currently when you say LongDesc() I think you mean here
  166. # [12:17] <Mark_Capella> nsGenericHTMLElement*
  167. # [12:17] <Mark_Capella> nsHTMLImageAccessible::LongDescElement() ?
  168. # [12:20] <@tbsaunde> Mark_Capella: yes
  169. # [12:20] <Mark_Capella> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1550489
  170. # [12:20] <Mark_Capella> Maybe easier to see where we are than a DIFF thats been changed so much
  171. # [12:29] <@tbsaunde> Mark_Capella: yeah, I'm pretty sure that does the wrong thing for <img href="#foo" longdesc="#bar"> specifically it'll open what href points to not longdesc
  172. # [12:31] <@tbsaunde> Mark_Capella: I'd say fix by making nsHTMLImageAccessible::LongDesc() get the string uri to open
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  174. # [12:46] <Mark_Capella> lemme review ... change nsGenericHTMLElement* nsHTMLImageAccessible::LongDescElement() to be
  175. # [12:46] <Mark_Capella> nsHTMLImageAccessible::LongDesc(nsAutoString), no longer return nsGenericHTMLElement* ...
  176. # [12:46] <Mark_Capella> I'd have to have two of the three callers of the function define storage that they won't use
  177. # [12:48] <@tbsaunde> ok, so have it return a bool if it found something, and take a pointer to a string which can be null
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  179. # [12:51] <@tbsaunde> Mark_Capella: if you can think of something better that's cool too
  180. # [12:53] <@tbsaunde> Mark_Capella: so, one laternative would be for LongDesc() to take a pointer to a bool to set to wich attribute href or longdesc should be used with the returned element
  181. # [12:54] <Mark_Capella> or false if none
  182. # [12:55] <Mark_Capella> wait i didnt say that right :)
  183. # [12:58] <Mark_Capella> im trying to remember the original request ... the order of precedence based on which information is available
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  185. # [13:03] <Mark_Capella> tbsaunde: also there are several references to kNameSpaceID_None, did you want me to use kNameSpaceID_XHTML in just
  186. # [13:03] <Mark_Capella> the one you pointed out or in all cases?
  187. # [13:04] <@tbsaunde> just that one
  188. # [13:06] <Mark_Capella> tbsaunde: so im with you up to the last item ... the wrong thing for <img href="#foo" longdesc="#bar">
  189. # [13:06] <Mark_Capella> this was correct before we started this bug though ... yes?
  190. # [13:10] <@tbsaunde> Mark_Capella: yes
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  195. # [13:40] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 741342 filed by hsivonen@iki.fi.
  196. # [13:40] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741342 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Inline text input by voice not supported
  197. # [13:40] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 739524 from --- to mozilla14.
  198. # [13:40] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739524 nor, --, mozilla14, markcapella, ASSI, replace TreeViewChanged DOM event on direct call from XUL tree
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  200. # [13:45] <paul> surkov: ping?
  201. # [13:45] <@surkov> paul: pong
  202. # [13:46] <paul> surkov: Hi! I need some help for bug 736418
  203. # [13:46] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=736418 nor, --, ---, paul, REOP, Hide the "Inspect" button from screen readers
  204. # [13:46] <paul> surkov: we have this "Inspect" button for the DevTools Page Inspector
  205. # [13:46] <@surkov> ok
  206. # [13:46] <paul> and I don't know what we should do
  207. # [13:47] <@surkov> iirc we didn't reach an agreement in that bug
  208. # [13:47] <paul> no - we didn't
  209. # [13:47] <@surkov> but it seems people are fine to hide that button
  210. # [13:47] <paul> I just don't know :)
  211. # [13:47] <@surkov> I think that's not very correct but
  212. # [13:47] <paul> Honnestly, it's technicaly easier to keep it accessible
  213. # [13:47] <@surkov> where can I see that button?
  214. # [13:48] <paul> surkov: nightly build, right click on an element, "Inspect Element"
  215. # [13:48] <paul> surkov: also, I don't know if this button should be "focusable"
  216. # [13:49] <@surkov> if it's supposed to be exposed to AT then yes
  217. # [13:49] <@surkov> not sure about tabbable
  218. # [13:49] <paul> AT ?
  219. # [13:50] <@surkov> assistive technologies like screen readers
  220. # [13:50] <paul> ok
  221. # [13:50] <@surkov> what's an alternative of inspect button?
  222. # [13:51] <paul> inspect button implies using the mouse. without the mouse, the inspect button is useless
  223. # [13:51] <paul> the breadcrumbs display, on the right of the HTML button
  224. # [13:52] <@surkov> btw, screen readers still can click
  225. # [13:52] <@surkov> what is breadcrumbs display?
  226. # [13:52] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 741344 filed by hsivonen@iki.fi.
  227. # [13:52] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741344 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Phantom menu bar obscures the first tab when controlling Firefox using voice on Windows 7
  228. # [13:52] <paul> it's the list of nodes you see next to the HTML button
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  230. # [13:56] <paul> surkov: would it be wrong the make this Inspect button focusable and tabbable?
  231. # [13:56] <@surkov> ok, paul, anyway there are users who use screen magnifiers and they use a mouse, hiding an inspect button for them doesn't look correct
  232. # [13:56] <paul> ok
  233. # [13:56] <@surkov> paul: it sounds it should be consistent to breadcrumbs buttons
  234. # [13:57] <@surkov> if it'll be tabbable then it's great
  235. # [13:57] <paul> what I want to do, personnaly, is to make this button behave like any other button
  236. # [13:57] <@surkov> I think that's ok
  237. # [13:58] <@surkov> at least I don't see a reason why it must be different :)
  238. # [13:58] <paul> surkov: cool :)
  239. # [13:58] <paul> surkov: can I ask you to comment here 736418 and here 735214 ?
  240. # [13:59] <paul> surkov: 736418 is about the label, 735214 is about making the button tabbable and focusable (see comment 7)
  241. # [13:59] <@surkov> sure
  242. # [14:00] <paul> thank you
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  245. # [14:07] <@surkov> yw
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  250. # [14:23] <@MarcoZ> Hi all!
  251. # [14:23] <@tbsaunde> mjorning
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  268. # [15:08] <@davidb> hi all!
  269. # [15:09] <jhk> hi davidb
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  271. # [15:09] <@davidb> hi!
  272. # [15:13] <jhk> surkov: ping
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  274. # [15:20] <jhk> davidb: Just a few doubts around head.
  275. # [15:21] <jhk> davidb : To make Listbox accessible via nsAccessibleEx on which object we will implement UIA interfaces. which one is right candidate *ListBoxAccessiblewrap or nsAccessibleWrap? 
  276. # [15:22] <@davidb> no idea :)
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  280. # [15:23] <icaaq1> Survey of Accessibility Advocates - http://goo.gl/hHKUv :)
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  285. # [15:35] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested feedback from trev.saunders@gma il.com for attachment 611435 on bug 652635.
  286. # [15:35] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=652635 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, Fallback missing @longdesc to aria-describedby pointing to <a href>
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  288. # [15:37] <@tbsaunde> jhk: what are you doing with uia? I thought you used linux?
  289. # [15:37] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com changed the Component on bug 741342 from Disability Access APIs to Widget: Win32.
  290. # [15:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741342 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Inline text input by voice not supported
  291. # [15:38] <jhk> tbsaunde: yes, but now changed ... took 3 hrs to fresh compile...
  292. # [15:39] <@tbsaunde> jhk: ok, so what's up with uia?
  293. # [15:39] <@tbsaunde> Mark_Capella: if you want a quick answer you'd be better off getting surkov to look
  294. # [15:40] <jhk> tbsaunde : I am going to work on implementation of UIA this summer :)
  295. # [15:40] <@MarcoZ> jhk: Very cool!
  296. # [15:41] <@tbsaunde> jhk: oic
  297. # [15:41] <Mark_Capella> tbsaunde: ah ok ! Hey? We didn't have a test in place for this to begin with did we? We need to add one?
  298. # [15:41] <@tbsaunde> Mark_Capella: no, I don't think it was tested
  299. # [15:42] <@tbsaunde> it'd be nice if you wrote a test that worked, but iirc I tried a while back but didn't have much luck
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  302. # [15:42] <jhk> MarkoZ: yeah:)
  303. # [15:42] <@tbsaunde> jhk: so, what is your question about uia?
  304. # [15:42] <Mark_Capella> surkov: can you look at bug652635? It's flagged for tbsaunde right now
  305. # [15:42] <Mark_Capella> but I can wait in either case
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  307. # [15:44] <jhk> tbsaunde: so spec says we need to implement UIA interfaces in individual objects. AFIK all objects inherits nsAccessibleWrap . right? so which one is the better to go
  308. # [15:45] <jhk> for example To make Listbox accessible via nsAccessibleEx on which object we will implement UIA interfaces.(1) In *ListBoxAccessiblewrap or nsAccessibleWrap? 
  309. # [15:46] <jhk> tbsaunde : we will need UIAutomationCore.dll for that.
  310. # [15:46] <@tbsaunde> nsAccessibleEx???
  311. # [15:47] <jhk> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd561900(v=vs.85).aspx
  312. # [15:47] <jhk> tbsaunde: ^
  313. # [15:48] <@tbsaunde> jhk: well, not quiet all, we create nsAccessNodeWraps sometimes for things just for ISimpleDOM, but I'm not sure if we need to care about that
  314. # [15:49] <@tbsaunde> also hopefully soon that won't be true and ISimpleDOMNode will be seperate from normal accessibles
  315. # [15:50] <jhk> tbsaunde : ok so *ListBoxAccessiblewrap is the right candidate? then it will implement all the three IServiceProvider, IAccessibleEx, IRawElementProviderSimple.
  316. # [15:52] <@tbsaunde> jhk: so, II'm not sure if you want to take the IAccessibleEx path or if you just want to implement a uia server using IRawFragment or whatever it is
  317. # [15:52] <@MarcoZ> jhk, tbsaunde, a hunch tells me that we should be careful in mixing MSAA/IA2 and UIA. UIA is not built on MSAA, so we may actually want to evaluate if we create a completely separate wrapper for it which does not carry around all the MSAA stuff.
  318. # [15:52] <@tbsaunde> jhk: iirc all accessible objects alread implemnt IServiceProvider
  319. # [15:54] <@tbsaunde> ideally we'd have seperate wrapper objects on windows and one of the types of wrappers would implement IListBoxElement and when we needed the platform object ofr an accessible list box we'd create one of those.
  320. # [15:55] <@tbsaunde> MarcoZ: well, so it isn't but it sort is (see what IAccessibleEx is)
  321. # [15:55] <@tbsaunde> *sort of is
  322. # [15:56] <jhk> tbsaunde: its because nsAccessibleWrap.
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  324. # [15:57] <@tbsaunde> jhk: I don't follow
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  326. # [16:04] <jhk> tbsaunde: err nsAccessNodeWrap
  327. # [16:05] <@tbsaunde> jhk: what is because of that?
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  329. # [16:06] <@davidb|mtg> MarcoZ: ready when you are
  330. # [16:06] <fxa90id> ;(
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  332. # [16:09] <@tbsaunde> surkov: I'd prefer to not take bug 741053 if someone else has cycels
  333. # [16:09] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741053 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in nsIDocument::GetRootElement
  334. # [16:10] <jhk> tbsaunde : that is the only one seems to implement(QueryService)?
  335. # [16:10] <@surkov> tbsaunde: ok, I can do that
  336. # [16:13] <@tbsaunde> surkov: sounds great
  337. # [16:14] <@surkov> tbsaunde: not for me :)
  338. # [16:14] <@tbsaunde> jhk: directly, other things inherit it
  339. # [16:14] <@tbsaunde> surkov: :(
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  341. # [16:15] <@tbsaunde> but you do wnat me to finish school right? ;)
  342. # [16:16] <@surkov> tbsaunde: you know I tried to try nightly on my tablet pc, after several minutes I started to crash permanently. I switched to aurora maybe for half an hour, the same reason. I'm on beta :)
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  345. # [16:18] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ok?
  346. # [16:19] <@surkov> tbsaunde: sure :)
  347. # [16:20] <@tbsaunde> surkov: was just a little confused why you were telling me inarticular
  348. # [16:20] <@surkov> tbsaunde: just thinking aloud how crashes are bad :)
  349. # [16:21] <@tbsaunde> surkov: oh, yeah
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  351. # [16:29] <jhk> tbsaunde, surkov : http://www.code-magazine.com/article.aspx?quickid=0810072&page=1 step 1.
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  353. # [16:30] <@surkov> yep, I saw similar things on the web
  354. # [16:31] <@davidb> why was fxa90id sad face?
  355. # [16:35] <jhk> tbsaunde: we will implement for simple UI Automation, in case of complex tree structure *fragment and other interfaces will come into picture
  356. # [16:35] <@tbsaunde> davidb: unclear
  357. # [16:36] <@tbsaunde> jhk: not sure what you mean by 'for simple ui automation"
  358. # [16:37] <@tbsaunde> jhk: you will clearly have to implent IRwaFragmentSimple if you don't want to implement the one windows gets when it calls GetObjectFromWIndow
  359. # [16:37] <@tbsaunde> IRawRootFragment iirc
  360. # [16:38] <jhk> tbsaunde: oic
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  365. # [16:50] <@davidb> tbsaunde: are you taking bug 741053?
  366. # [16:50] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741053 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in nsIDocument::GetRootElement
  367. # [16:51] <@tbsaunde> davidb: no, see scroll back surkov is
  368. # [16:51] <@tbsaunde> I am ENOCYCLES
  369. # [16:51] <@davidb> ok
  370. # [16:51] <@davidb> heh ok
  371. # [16:51] <@davidb> skewl?
  372. # [16:52] <@davidb> ok the scroll back wasn't too far back - my bad
  373. # [16:53] <@tbsaunde> ya
  374. # [17:01] <@tbsaunde> jhk: have more questions?
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  376. # [17:03] <jhk> tbsaunde: I will have more...I need to learn few things before i ask...
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  380. # [17:08] <@tbsaunde> jhk: I didn't look to deeply, but the msdn docs seemed to be pretty reasonable
  381. # [17:10] <@tbsaunde> jhk: working on seperate objects for msaa / i2 might be a good way to get started that's useful on its own
  382. # [17:10] <@tbsaunde> jhk: basically do the same thing as bug 736252 on other CAccessibleFoo classes to start with
  383. # [17:10] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=736252 nor, --, ---, trev.saunders, NEW, stop using QueryInterface in CAccessibleAction
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  385. # [17:15] <jhk> tbsaunde: other objects?
  386. # [17:16] <@tbsaunde> jhk: so, currently nsAccessibleWrap on windows implements IAccessible2 and some other interfaces
  387. # [17:16] <jhk> tbsaunde: yes
  388. # [17:17] <@tbsaunde> that causes some problems, and it would be better if there was a seperate object from the nsAccessible that implemented IAccessible2 and such
  389. # [17:21] <@tbsaunde> jhk: so, one of the things we need to do to have seperate objects is to stop getting the internal object through do_Query{Interface,Object}(0
  390. # [17:21] <@tbsaunde> so for example, you should do the same thing I did with CAccessibleAction with CAccessibleHyperlink
  391. # [17:21] <@tbsaunde> I can file bugs in a bit
  392. # [17:22] <jhk> ok..I got you...sure..and assign me on that! thanks:)
  393. # [17:23] <@tbsaunde> sounds gret :)
  394. # [17:32] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 741398 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  395. # [17:32] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 611462 on bug 741398.
  396. # [17:32] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741398 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, make ARIA state map extensible
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  399. # [17:47] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 611470 on bug 741053.
  400. # [17:47] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 741053 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  401. # [17:47] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741053 cri, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, crash in nsIDocument::GetRootElement
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  403. # [17:54] <@tbsaunde> surkov: we should have a follow to actually fix these crash bugs, want tofile? or should although I think you have a clearer idea of what you want to do
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  405. # [17:55] <@surkov> tbsaunde: I'll file a bug
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  407. # [17:56] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 611470 on bug 741053.
  408. # [17:56] <@tbsaunde> thx
  409. # [17:57] <@tbsaunde> surkov: fyi I'm not around enough now to say I'll watch the tree, but I could push later if you want
  410. # [17:57] <@surkov> tbsaunde: I'm pushing it to try server build, we can land it on inbound I think
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  412. # [17:59] <@tbsaunde> surkov: yeah, I'm not really sure when merge will happen, but sure
  413. # [17:59] <@tbsaunde> I'll be really suprised if that either doesn't build or doesn't fix the issue
  414. # [17:59] <@surkov> tbsaunde: the reason I landed on inbound to have a chance to see if that helps asap
  415. # [17:59] <@surkov> sorry on central
  416. # [18:01] <@tbsaunde> sure
  417. # [18:02] <@tbsaunde> yeah, also means that you may save people a day of anoying crashes
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  419. # [18:10] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 741408 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  420. # [18:10] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741408 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, figure out a way to deal with accessibles with no content
  421. # [18:20] <@david|mtg> surkov: an aria namespace?
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  423. # [18:20] <@surkov> davidb: how does it sound?
  424. # [18:20] <@davidb> surkov: it looks ok to me but roc had a big thing on dev-platform "Too many C++ namespaces being used "
  425. # [18:21] <@surkov> :)
  426. # [18:21] <@surkov> what's the point?
  427. # [18:21] <@surkov> does he have a criteria: when we should use namespace and we shouldn't?
  428. # [18:22] <@davidb> I guess it ended up as https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Developer_Guide/Coding_Style#C.2B.2B_namespaces
  429. # [18:23] * @tbsaunde hasn't read the patch but tends to think that if your just replacing a class with all static members it should be fine
  430. # [18:24] * @davidb shrugs
  431. # [18:24] <@davidb> I'm not sure why it really matters
  432. # [18:24] <@davidb> for our stuff
  433. # [18:24] <@tbsaunde> yeah, and it probably maters more for public stuff, which I suspect this won't be
  434. # [18:25] <@davidb> right
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  436. # [18:35] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 741053 from --- to mozilla14.
  437. # [18:35] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741053 cri, --, mozilla14, surkov.alexander, ASSI, crash in nsIDocument::GetRootElement
  438. # [18:44] <@MarcoZ> davidb, surkov, have the rules to check into mozilla-central directly been changed?
  439. # [18:44] <@MarcoZ> surkov: I saw you check into m-c twice now, without going to inbound first.
  440. # [18:45] <@surkov> MarcoZ: twice?
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  442. # [18:45] <@surkov> MarcoZ: which was a second?
  443. # [18:45] <@surkov> MarcoZ: I landed bug 741053 to make it get into nighties sooner so we can see if it helps to crashes
  444. # [18:46] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741053 cri, --, mozilla14, surkov.alexander, ASSI, crash in nsIDocument::GetRootElement
  445. # [18:48] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Sorr I mis-read, you landed bug 741053 on integration, but the related Windows one on central.
  446. # [18:48] <@MarcoZ> And yeah, that's good that you did! I was just curious.
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  451. # [19:13] <@MarcoZ> OK, off for the evening. Se you all tomorrow!
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  454. # [19:21] <@davidb> crap he left
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  462. # [20:11] <@firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 740375 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  463. # [20:11] <@firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 740375 to FIXED.
  464. # [20:11] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=740375 nor, --, mozilla14, markcapella, RESO FIXED, get rid nsIAccessible innerHTML method
  465. # [20:13] <@firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 736252 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  466. # [20:13] <@firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 736252 to FIXED.
  467. # [20:13] <@firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 736252 from --- to mozilla14.
  468. # [20:13] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=736252 nor, --, ---, trev.saunders, NEW, stop using QueryInterface in CAccessibleAction
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  470. # [20:15] <@firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 739253 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  471. # [20:15] <@firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 739253 to FIXED.
  472. # [20:15] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739253 nor, --, mozilla14, nickyekaiqi, RESO FIXED, optimize AccEvent::GetDocAccessible
  473. # [20:15] <@firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 737379 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  474. # [20:16] <@firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 737379 to FIXED.
  475. # [20:16] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737379 tri, --, mozilla14, junky.argonaut, NEW, change Comments to roles::ROLENAME
  476. # [20:16] <@firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 739193 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  477. # [20:16] <@firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 739193 to FIXED.
  478. # [20:16] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739193 nor, --, mozilla14, maxli, RESO FIXED, nsTextEquivUtils::AppendTextEquivFromContent shouldn't use GetAccService()->GetAccessible
  479. # [20:17] <@firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 723424 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  480. # [20:17] <@firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 723424 to FIXED.
  481. # [20:17] <@firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 723424 from --- to mozilla14.
  482. # [20:17] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723424 nor, --, mozilla14, orangedaylily, RESO FIXED, dexpcom GetUnignoredParent()
  483. # [20:17] <@firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 739524 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  484. # [20:17] <@firebot> mbrubeck@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 739524 to FIXED.
  485. # [20:17] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739524 nor, --, mozilla14, markcapella, RESO FIXED, replace TreeViewChanged DOM event on direct call from XUL tree
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  487. # [20:19] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 741474 filed by mbrubeck@mozilla.com.
  488. # [20:19] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741474 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Intermittent TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | chrome://mochitests/content/a11y/accessible/tree/test_img.html |
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  491. # [20:29] <@davidb> eeejay: hi
  492. # [20:35] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com changed the Status on bug 739889 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  493. # [20:35] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739889 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, densify nsOuterDocAccessible
  494. # [20:41] <eeejay> davidb, yo
  495. # [20:41] <@davidb> eeejay: was just gonna point our chrome.tts
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  497. # [20:41] <@davidb> etc
  498. # [20:41] <@davidb> but you probably already know
  499. # [20:41] <@davidb> our/out
  500. # [20:42] <eeejay> davidb, yeah. i was going to copy it verbatim and not give them credit
  501. # [20:42] <eeejay> jay kay
  502. # [20:42] <@davidb> haha
  503. # [20:42] <@davidb> eeejay: beware anything in w3c land
  504. # [20:42] <@davidb> it will be over engineered
  505. # [20:42] <@davidb> by non engineers
  506. # [20:43] <eeejay> davidb, and you don't consider chrome.tts to be w3c, right?
  507. # [20:43] <@davidb> right
  508. # [20:43] <eeejay> yeah, it seems like a sensible API
  509. # [20:43] <eeejay> license permitting, I will copy it
  510. # [20:44] <@davidb> it makes sense to converge
  511. # [20:44] <eeejay> yeah
  512. # [20:44] <eeejay> i already have a nice prototype
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  514. # [20:44] <eeejay> but you need to pass as an argument an audio element, which is a bit awkward
  515. # [20:47] <@davidb> element or object?
  516. # [20:47] <eeejay> um
  517. # [20:47] <eeejay> object?
  518. # [20:47] <@davidb> i dunno
  519. # [20:47] <eeejay> var audio = new Audio()
  520. # [20:47] <@davidb> object
  521. # [20:47] <eeejay> of type htmlmediaelement
  522. # [20:48] <@davidb> oh
  523. # [20:48] <@davidb> element
  524. # [20:48] <eeejay> it could be an element on the page
  525. # [20:48] <@davidb> sure
  526. # [20:48] <@davidb> or not
  527. # [20:48] <eeejay> right
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  529. # [20:49] <eeejay> the issue is, you can't instantiate elements outside of a "window" context, so js modules cant create new Audio objects
  530. # [20:49] <eeejay> so you need to pass it from the chrome script
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  535. # [21:38] <@davidb> hi fxa90id
  536. # [21:44] <fxa90id> hi fxa90id sup ?
  537. # [21:44] <fxa90id> hahah
  538. # [21:44] <fxa90id> hi davidb :D
  539. # [21:45] <@davidb> heheh
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  546. # [21:58] <@hub> tbsaunde: you still want lines wrapped at 80 columns, don't you?
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  551. # [22:37] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested feedback from surkov.alexander@ gmail.com for attachment 611569 on bug 740725.
  552. # [22:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=740725 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, Add down-casting to nsXULTreeAccessible
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  557. # [23:06] <Mark_Capella> tbsaunde: For bug739889 ... does mozDocAccessible.h and .mm in the /src/mac folder need to be included?
  558. # [23:06] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739889 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, densify nsOuterDocAccessible
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  560. # [23:07] <Mark_Capella> Never mind ... I answered my own question
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  564. # [23:35] <Mark_Capella> tbsaunde: r u there?
  565. # [23:36] <Mark_Capella> hmmmmmmmm ... and surkov is out ... guess ill have to wait
  566. # [23:49] <@hub> Mark_Capella: it is night time for surkov
  567. # [23:50] <@hub> Mark_Capella: if you don't ask the question, no chance that one of us can know if one can answer
  568. # [23:52] <Mark_Capella> hub: cool - if you can step in, i wanted to know from surkov on bug740725, and tbsaunde on bug739889
  569. # [23:52] <Mark_Capella> didnt know if anyone else had bandwidth ...
  570. # [23:52] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=740725 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, Add down-casting to nsXULTreeAccessible
  571. # [23:52] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739889 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, densify nsOuterDocAccessible
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