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  1. # Session Start: Thu Apr 19 00:00:00 2012
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  5. # [00:06] * Bryen checks in to see if hub, eeejay and et al have solved all the world's a11y problems yet.
  6. # [00:06] <@hub> Bryen: not yet
  7. # [00:06] <Bryen> hub, what's slowing you down?
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  15. # [00:46] <@tbsaunde> firebot: stop sleeping
  16. # [00:47] <@firebot> tbsaunde: Sorry, I've no idea what 'stop sleeping' might be.
  17. # [00:47] <@tbsaunde> firebot: are you lazy
  18. # [00:47] <@firebot> tbsaunde: Sorry, I've no idea what 'are you lazy' might be.
  19. # [01:00] <Bryen> firebot, are you omnipotent?
  20. # [01:00] <@firebot> Bryen: Sorry, I've no idea what 'are you omnipotent' might be.
  21. # [01:00] <Bryen> firebot, or are just impotent?
  22. # [01:00] <@firebot> Bryen: Sorry, I've no idea what 'are just impotent' might be.
  23. # [01:00] <Bryen> wait until you get old. You'll know...
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  26. # [01:09] <@hub> have a nice end of week. I might be online, I might not.
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  28. # [01:13] <khuey|away> have I ever mentioned how annoying it is that the TEST_PATH for a11y tests doesn't match their location in the tree
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  32. # [01:54] <@tbsaunde> khuey|away: yeah, that does suck
  33. # [01:54] <@tbsaunde> wnat to fix it?
  34. # [01:54] <khuey|away> not today
  35. # [01:54] <khuey|away> maybe later
  36. # [01:58] <@tbsaunde> khuey|away: fair enough, I just took a glance and it may be simple so if you don't I may get around to try some day
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  65. # [05:51] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 712924 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  66. # [05:51] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 712924 to FIXED.
  67. # [05:51] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712924 nor, P2, mozilla14, hub, RESO FIXED, [Mac] li elements inside an ul element are announced as "list box"
  68. # [05:51] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 616204 on bug 718690.
  69. # [05:51] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=718690 nor, P2, ---, nobody, NEW, [Mac] Various form element states not communicated to VoiceOver
  70. # [05:51] <ehsan> firebot: good job, I did that ~6 hours ago
  71. # [05:52] <ehsan> I mean, what's the rush?! ;)
  72. # [05:52] <@firebot> ehsan: Sorry, I've no idea what 'good job, I did that ~6 hours ago' might be.
  73. # [05:52] <ehsan> yeah of course you don't
  74. # [05:52] <ehsan> firebot: botsnack
  75. # [05:52] <@firebot> :)
  76. # [05:52] <ehsan> good boy!
  77. # [05:52] * ehsan leaves frustrated
  78. # [05:53] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 746534 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
  79. # [05:53] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746534 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, events/test_focus_selects.html unexpectedly terminates
  80. # [05:55] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested feedback from eitan@monotonous. org for attachment 616094 on bug 745740.
  81. # [05:55] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745740 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, De-ns-ify nsApplicationAccessible
  82. # [05:55] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 746519 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
  83. # [05:56] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746519 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Test timeout in events/test_focus_general.html when testing link tab shift.
  84. # [05:56] <@tbsaunde> firebot: your so helpful :-P
  85. # [05:56] <@firebot> tbsaunde: Sorry, I've no idea what 'your so helpful :-P' might be.
  86. # [05:57] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 445510 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  87. # [05:57] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 445510 to INVALID.
  88. # [05:58] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=445510 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO INVALID, Support ARIA-based text attributes
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  92. # [06:07] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 746868 filed by khuey@kylehuey.com.
  93. # [06:08] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746868 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Some subtests in test_doc.html fail with Bug 695480
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  97. # [06:40] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 615664 on bug 739882.
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  99. # [06:41] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739882 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, decomtaminate getting row and column count on accessible tables
  100. # [06:41] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com changed the Status on bug 570785 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  101. # [06:41] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=570785 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, Add about:memory report for our accessibility cache
  102. # [06:41] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested feedback from trev.saunders@gma il.com for attachment 616295 on bug 746358.
  103. # [06:41] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746358 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, New role for definition list
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  105. # [06:43] <@tbsaunde> firebot: you suck
  106. # [06:43] * @firebot pouts
  107. # [06:48] <Mark_Capella> tbsaunde: I really don't now the difference between void and empty ... alex asked for that so i put it in ... is this a showstopper?
  108. # [06:48] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 746531 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
  109. # [06:48] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746531 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Unexpected focus event on testing down key on ml_marmalade in tests_focus_listcontrols.xul
  110. # [06:49] <@tbsaunde> Mark_Capella: not sure what you mean by that
  111. # [06:49] <@tbsaunde> you can sk Alex to help document if you like
  112. # [06:51] <@firebot> pppx@i.com.ua changed the Status on bug 506425 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED.
  113. # [06:51] <@firebot> pppx@i.com.ua set the Resolution field on bug 506425 to WORKSFORME.
  114. # [06:51] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506425 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, The ' key starts quick find in gmail when I am trying to type.
  115. # [06:51] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com cancelled feedback?(trev.saunders@gma il.com) for attachment 616295 on bug 746358.
  116. # [06:51] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746358 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, New role for definition list
  117. # [06:54] * tbsaunde sets mode: -o firebot
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  120. # [06:55] <Mark_Capella> tbsaunde: i believe the patch is finished and ready to be moved. Nits / comment changes from here are getting uninteresting.
  121. # [06:56] <@tbsaunde> Mark_Capella: we really should documet what functions do
  122. # [06:57] <@tbsaunde> it shouldn't take more than a few minutes to write
  123. # [06:57] <Mark_Capella> and then rewrite
  124. # [06:57] <Mark_Capella> and then rewrite
  125. # [06:58] <Mark_Capella> tbsaunde: we reach the point of diminishing returns eventually
  126. # [06:59] <Mark_Capella> and we all have other patches in progress ... its nice to finish them as we go :)
  127. # [07:00] <@tbsaunde> sure, but atm I have no idea why you call SetIsVoid() sometimes which really isn't ok
  128. # [07:00] <Mark_Capella> this one is currently blocking two others from moving forward btw
  129. # [07:00] <Mark_Capella> ok fair enough
  130. # [07:01] <Mark_Capella> there was some code left inplace from previous version ... it used isvoid instead of of isempty
  131. # [07:01] <Mark_Capella> realistically they are probably thre same thing yes? len==0?
  132. # [07:01] <@tbsaunde> I supose I could figure it out, but if nothing else documenting it will make it easier to review
  133. # [07:02] <Mark_Capella> and as long as its working, why would one care to investigate further
  134. # [07:02] <Mark_Capella> what amm i trying to say here...
  135. # [07:02] <@tbsaunde> well, iirc a void string is null in js where a empty but not void string is "" in js
  136. # [07:03] <@tbsaunde> so they are similar but not the same
  137. # [07:03] <Mark_Capella> ok ... but is there a problem in reality or in theory?
  138. # [07:03] <@tbsaunde> if you don't understand it how do you know it is correct?
  139. # [07:03] <Mark_Capella> how do you know its wrong?
  140. # [07:03] <Mark_Capella> :)
  141. # [07:03] <@tbsaunde> I don't, I'm not saying anything is
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  143. # [07:04] <@tbsaunde> I've seen atleast one bug where the difference between a voided string and a empty non void string was the issue
  144. # [07:06] <Mark_Capella> ok, i believe its "right" as in working ... all tests pass ... and am happy to deal with any issues IF they ever arise ...
  145. # [07:06] <Mark_Capella> if a case like yours presents itself later, we can track it down and fix it , else we move on
  146. # [07:07] <Mark_Capella> hey! i know what i was trying to say ... you worry too much :)
  147. # [07:10] <Mark_Capella> tbsaunde: btw: i've got the about:memory process functioning .... but not properly ... i may ask your help with that
  148. # [07:11] <@tbsaunde> re memory stuff sure though I'm kind of tired
  149. # [07:11] <Mark_Capella> oh ... not right now then .... but allow me to later
  150. # [07:12] <@tbsaunde> I can try and answer questions now
  151. # [07:12] <Mark_Capella> well quick summary ... i get the information displayed on the about:memory page, but the number of accessible im counting
  152. # [07:12] <Mark_Capella> always shows up as zero
  153. # [07:13] <Mark_Capella> i had put the count/decrement logic in the nsAccessible constructor/destructor rotuines
  154. # [07:14] <Mark_Capella> actuall you had put it there in your original patch ... i like it and went with it
  155. # [07:15] <@tbsaunde> that's funny
  156. # [07:15] <@tbsaunde> try using a debugger? I don't have an idea off hand why that would happen
  157. # [07:15] <Mark_Capella> yah ... seemed like a simple first test ... debugger is next ... also a few other tricks to try
  158. # [07:18] <Mark_Capella> hey get this? I spent two hours tracking down why it was failing ... our decription sentence needed to end in a period "."
  159. # [07:18] <Mark_Capella> like an actual english sentence... not just a description
  160. # [07:18] <@tbsaunde> I see
  161. # [07:19] <Mark_Capella> it was throwing a JS exceptino to the console thats where i found it
  162. # [07:20] <@tbsaunde> for the name stuff why not just copy the explanation from comment 18? or reword it as makes sense?
  163. # [07:21] <Mark_Capella> Alex asked me to make it like that in comment 18 ... wasnt important to me so i did ... wait didnt I do as he asked?
  164. # [07:23] <Mark_Capella> 3) aName.IsEmpty() when name is empty
  165. # [07:23] <Mark_Capella> 4) aName.IsVoid() when no name
  166. # [07:23] <Mark_Capella> I suggested to map 3 and 4 to flags as well. But we are not required to that now. If you put this into Name() comment then it's ok.
  167. # [07:25] <Mark_Capella> -----^
  168. # [07:25] <@tbsaunde> yeah, I know what it says
  169. # [07:25] <@tbsaunde> so why don't you just dd a comment explaining that behavior?
  170. # [07:27] <Mark_Capella> i dont belive its neccessary or adds anything of much greater value ... if you'd like to fix it up during landing thats cool
  171. # [07:31] <@tbsaunde> no, that comment is a *lot* more useful than the comment you currently have
  172. # [07:32] <Mark_Capella> again, already been review+ by alex ... if you'd like to change it please do so
  173. # [07:39] <@tbsaunde> well, I'll finished review in the morning
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  196. # [13:22] <@firebot> pppx@i.com.ua changed the Resolution on bug 506425 from WORKSFORME to INCOMPLETE.
  197. # [13:22] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506425 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO INCOMPLETE, The ' key starts quick find in gmail when I am trying to type.
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  204. # [14:58] <@davidb> heyo
  205. # [15:01] <satdav> hey david
  206. # [15:01] <satdav> their is a irc meeting in a hour at #sumommet about accessibility
  207. # [15:04] <@davidb> satdav: thanks for the heads up. I won't be able to make it.
  208. # [15:04] <@davidb> I can lurk though
  209. # [15:05] <satdav> cool
  210. # [15:06] <@davidb> satdav: you sure you spelled the channel right?
  211. # [15:08] * @davidb shakes his fist at mac build errors
  212. # [15:11] <@davidb> satdav: Marco is our super QA, among other things, so he might be the right person to join.
  213. # [15:11] <@davidb> MarcoZ: ^
  214. # [15:11] <satdav> cool
  215. # [15:11] <satdav> MarcoZ, #sumomeet in 1 hour their is a irc meeting
  216. # [15:21] <@MarcoZ> satdav: Ah, thanks, and you'r ediscussing something accessibility-related?
  217. # [15:22] <@MarcoZ> Argh, damn hooks, I have no bug number for some of this stuff I want to commit!
  218. # [15:23] <@MarcoZ> s/commit/push
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  220. # [15:36] <satdav> well we are going to be MarcoZ
  221. # [15:36] <satdav> was really about the site and possible firefox portable and the accessibility features of it
  222. # [15:42] <@MarcoZ> satdav: I am not sure I understand. Esp the part about "Firefox portable". if you're talking about the accessibility of mobile Firefox (the Firefox that runs on Android smart phones), then Sumo is not the right place to discuss that.
  223. # [15:42] <satdav> we are going to be talking about the website and that
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  227. # [15:52] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 746970 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
  228. # [15:52] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746970 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, events/test_focus_general.xul, test timing out on mbb tests
  229. # [15:56] <satdav> MarcoZ, bug 732204 might be of intrest to you
  230. # [15:56] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=732204 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, accessibility - Make text in the sidebar easier to see for people with disability's
  231. # [15:56] <satdav> as its about the sumo site
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  233. # [16:01] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 746974 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
  234. # [16:01] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746974 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, hittest/ tests expect direct accessible, not text leaves or the like as deepest child on Mac
  235. # [16:03] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested feedback from surkov.alexander@ gmail.com for attachment 616549 on bug 559759.
  236. # [16:03] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com changed the Status on bug 559759 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  237. # [16:03] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559759 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, add a11y mochitests for <input type="email">
  238. # [16:05] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 616550 on bug 563862.
  239. # [16:05] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=563862 nor, --, ---, dbolter, NEW, Expand support for nsIAccessibleEvent::OBJECT_ATTRIBUTE_CHANGED
  240. # [16:05] <@davidb> hi surkov
  241. # [16:06] <@surkov> hi, davidb
  242. # [16:06] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 746977 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
  243. # [16:06] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746977 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, tree/test_cssoverflow.html: shift tab failing, no focus event and a test timeout
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  246. # [16:11] <@MarcoZ> OK, got the test failures all documented in bugs now. Phew.
  247. # [16:12] <@davidb> heheh
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  249. # [16:17] <Mark_Capella> davidb: thanks for the team shirt !
  250. # [16:17] <@davidb> Mark_Capella: oh good! you got it!
  251. # [16:17] <@davidb> surkov: ^
  252. # [16:17] <Mark_Capella> yah - nice and warm :0 nice colors !
  253. # [16:17] <@davidb> :)
  254. # [16:18] <@surkov> oh, cool
  255. # [16:20] <@MarcoZ> surkov: davidb: I've just pushed a bunch of patches to projects/accessibility that a) temporarily fix or disable failing tests and b) enable a11y on all platforms, taking away the exception for OS X in configure.in. Let's see what happens. :)
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  257. # [16:21] <@davidb> great
  258. # [16:21] <@davidb> MarcoZ: are we getting close to saying 'hey brave early adopters, try our mac a11y builds'?
  259. # [16:21] <@MarcoZ> This stuff is in no way meant to be merged to m-c in this manner. :D
  260. # [16:21] <@davidb> ok
  261. # [16:21] <@MarcoZ> davidb: We are.
  262. # [16:21] <@surkov> MarcoZ: I hope you disabled them on mac only?
  263. # [16:22] <@davidb> MarcoZ: that is good to hear!
  264. # [16:22] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Of course!
  265. # [16:22] <@surkov> cool
  266. # [16:22] <@MarcoZ> surkov: If you'd like, take a look at the last 15 or so changesets pushed to projects/accessibility to see what I did.
  267. # [16:22] <@surkov> k
  268. # [16:22] <@surkov> MarcoZ: url?
  269. # [16:23] <@davidb> MarcoZ: I'm curious about a11y of http://toolness.github.com/slowparse/demo/editor/
  270. # [16:25] <@MarcoZ> surkov: http://hg.mozilla.org/projects/accessibility
  271. # [16:25] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Will look in a sec and let you know!
  272. # [16:25] <@davidb> ty
  273. # [16:26] <@surkov> MarcoZ: do we have tbox machine for that?
  274. # [16:26] <@davidb> surkov: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Accessibility
  275. # [16:27] <@surkov> cool
  276. # [16:30] <@MarcoZ> davidb: How cool is that? It's an HTML editor with real-time refresh when you edit code in the text area.
  277. # [16:31] <@MarcoZ> davidb: I see the contents of the text area twice: Once in a normal textarea (multiline text field), and once in a block below that, below all the line numbers. So I first get lines 1 through 6, and then the actual lines, no connection between line number and line.
  278. # [16:31] <@MarcoZ> And then I have the iframe with the actual output HTML, and below that an explanation of the element the cursor is currently sitting on.
  279. # [16:32] <@davidb> It sounds usable
  280. # [16:32] <@davidb> I'm
  281. # [16:32] <@davidb> ...
  282. # [16:32] <@davidb> shocked
  283. # [16:32] <@MarcoZ> So the one problem is that the line numbers aren't connected to the lines themselves. And I guess having the content twice is the tradeoff for an accessible text area. :)
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  285. # [16:34] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Yes I would deem it so. :)
  286. # [16:34] <@MarcoZ> Why are you shocked?
  287. # [16:34] <@davidb> I'm used to people using canvas etc
  288. # [16:34] <@MarcoZ> Oh is this using canvas?
  289. # [16:35] <@davidb> no not that I'm aware of
  290. # [16:35] <@davidb> but i didn't check
  291. # [16:35] <@davidb> I know suspect not
  292. # [16:35] <@davidb> know/now
  293. # [16:35] <@MarcoZ> Yeah, well...It definitely has a very straight-forward text area. :)
  294. # [16:36] <@davidb> good good
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  301. # [16:47] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com granted review for attachment 616550 on bug 563862.
  302. # [16:47] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=563862 nor, --, ---, dbolter, NEW, Expand support for nsIAccessibleEvent::OBJECT_ATTRIBUTE_CHANGED
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  307. # [16:51] <Mark_Capella|away> surkov: i accidentally flagged eeejay for a review on a bug yesterday ... does he do that? I know you
  308. # [16:51] <Mark_Capella|away> and tbsaunde have to be getting busy with my stuff ...
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  310. # [16:52] <@surkov> Mark_Capella|away: I think it's ok
  311. # [16:52] <Mark_Capella|away> k - ill wait then :) thanks
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  313. # [17:01] <@MarcoZ> firebot: bug 746990
  314. # [17:01] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746990 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in nsXULTreeAccessible::Value
  315. # [17:02] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Didn't the de-xpcom-ed version of GetValue land recently?
  316. # [17:03] <@surkov> MarcoZ: eyp
  317. # [17:06] <@MarcoZ> surkov: See the bug I just filed. Seems like we have a regression.
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  325. # [17:09] <@surkov> MarcoZ: ok
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  332. # [17:20] <@MarcoZ> surkLooks like fixing that file path didn't fix bug 733848 yet, or at least we're still getting failures from the Try tree etc.
  333. # [17:20] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=733848 nor, --, mozilla14, surkov.alexander, ASSI, Intermittent failures in a11y/accessible/name/test_markup.html | Can't get accessible for [object HT
  334. # [17:21] <@MarcoZ> Oops surkov left.
  335. # [17:24] <tbsaunde> MarcoZ: try failures could well be people who haven't pulled recently, you should probably check to see if they had the committ that should have fixed it, or just wait and see about other trees
  336. # [17:25] <@MarcoZ> tbsaunde: Yeah you're right.
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  343. # [17:54] <satdav> was speaking to hub david about the accessibility list and he has agreed to help me moderate it
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  345. # [18:01] <@davidb> satdav: are you saying hub would like to be a moderator?
  346. # [18:04] <satdav> was speeaking to him the other day he said he could help out also as i told him we have been getting a lot of spam
  347. # [18:04] <@davidb> i see
  348. # [18:04] <@davidb> ok
  349. # [18:04] <@davidb> i'll connect with him
  350. # [18:05] <satdav> davidb, i see we have 2 lits
  351. # [18:05] <satdav> lists
  352. # [18:05] <satdav> mail.mozilla.org
  353. # [18:05] <satdav> and lists.mozilla.org
  354. # [18:05] <@davidb> satdav: can you send me links to each one?
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  356. # [18:05] <satdav> cool will do it vie pm
  357. # [18:05] <@davidb> ok
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  361. # [18:13] <@MarcoZ> OK, off for the evening.
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  363. # [18:16] <satdav> were is MarcoZ based
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  371. # [18:47] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 616032 on bug 740747.
  372. # [18:47] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=740747 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, dexpcom nsAccessible::GetName
  373. # [18:50] <Mark_Capella> tbsaunde: we cant lose the tooltip return code .... other code depends on it - tests fail later
  374. # [18:51] <Mark_Capella> (I found out the hard way)
  375. # [18:51] <tbsaunde> you can't loose eNameFromTooltip, but nothing uses NS_OK_NAME_FROMTOOLTIp anymore
  376. # [18:52] <Mark_Capella> hmmm ... ok ... ill scan to be sure
  377. # [18:59] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com changed the Status on bug 559747 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  378. # [18:59] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559747 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, make <input type="search"> accessible
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  380. # [19:26] <@firebot> New Firefox - Keyboard Navigation bug 747064 filed by phette23@gmail.com.
  381. # [19:26] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=747064 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Full Screen shortcut does not follow Apple's Developer Guidelines
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  383. # [20:01] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org granted feedback for attachment 616094 on bug 745740.
  384. # [20:01] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745740 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, De-ns-ify nsApplicationAccessible
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  387. # [20:36] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 746990 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
  388. # [20:36] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746990 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in nsXULTreeAccessible::Value
  389. # [20:40] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 746971 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
  390. # [20:40] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746971 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, events/test_focus_tabbox.xul fails on Mac imminently
  391. # [21:00] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 616682 on bug 745740.
  392. # [21:00] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745740 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, De-ns-ify nsApplicationAccessible
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  410. # [23:23] <@davidb> eeejay: hi! and bye
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  416. # [23:42] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 616750 on bug 739882.
  417. # [23:42] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739882 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, decomtaminate getting row and column count on accessible tables
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  419. # [23:47] <Bryen> hi firebot Have I missed anything interesting today?
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  425. # [23:59] <@eeejay> firebot, did Bryen miss anything interesting today?
  426. # [23:59] <@firebot> eeejay: Sorry, I've no idea what 'did Bryen miss anything interesting today' might be.
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