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  1. # Session Start: Wed Apr 25 00:00:00 2012
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  10. # [00:38] <@firebot> xph9753@yahoo.de requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 618073 on bug 739885.
  11. # [00:38] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739885 nor, --, ---, xph9753, NEW, decomtaminate impl of IsRowSelected() and IsColumnSelected() on accessible tables
  12. # [00:39] <@firebot> xph9753@yahoo.de changed the Status on bug 739885 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  13. # [00:41] <drexler> tbsaunde: not too busy?
  14. # [00:42] <drexler> tbsaunde: got a couple of questions about the offsets used in testing the text attributes
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  16. # [00:49] <@tbsaunde> drexler: not to bad
  17. # [00:49] <@tbsaunde> drexler: what's up?
  18. # [00:49] <drexler> i am confused about how they are actually computed
  19. # [00:51] <drexler> take test_text.html..
  20. # [00:52] <drexler> look at "area7"
  21. # [00:52] <drexler> the js code starts @ line 204 and the html @ 610
  22. # [00:53] <drexler> specifically it
  23. # [00:53] <@tbsaunde> looking
  24. # [00:54] <drexler> it's how the end offset is calculated
  25. # [00:54] <drexler> ok.
  26. # [00:57] <@tbsaunde> ok, so the offsets are into the "rendered" part of the text
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  28. # [00:58] <@tbsaunde> so if say I have <p>hello</p> the end offset is 5
  29. # [01:00] <drexler> so i understand you correctly. something like <p>hello one</p> should be 10 right?
  30. # [01:01] <drexler> i mean 9
  31. # [01:01] <@tbsaunde> I think so
  32. # [01:03] <drexler> ok i will slosh it around in my head...and see if i can extrapolate that to account for nested elements. :)
  33. # [01:03] <@tbsaunde> ok, its kind of anoying
  34. # [01:04] <@tbsaunde> well, not anoying but tricky
  35. # [01:04] <@tbsaunde> do you actually need to change tests? I thought I remember surkov say there already were tests?
  36. # [01:05] <drexler> he said there were no todo's but he updated the bug with an outline of the test
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  38. # [01:16] <@tbsaunde> drexler: ah
  39. # [01:16] <@tbsaunde> which number is it again
  40. # [01:17] <drexler> bug 445516
  41. # [01:17] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=445516 nor, --, ---, andrew.quartey, ASSI, Support auto-generated=true text attribute on list bullets
  42. # [01:17] <@tbsaunde> thx
  43. # [01:17] <@tbsaunde> hub: yeah, I saw that gnome stuff, I've had replying on my todo list, we should probably talk about it at a team meeting next week
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  45. # [01:21] <@hub> tbsaunde: we should
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  52. # [01:37] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 748601 filed by trev.saunders@gmail.com.
  53. # [01:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748601 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, nsMaiInterfaceText.cpp should check internal role not atk role
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  69. # [03:40] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 617841 on bug 716644.
  70. # [03:40] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=716644 nor, --, ---, askalski, NEW, expandoify accessible roles
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  75. # [03:44] <@davidb> hi surkov
  76. # [03:44] <@surkov> hi, davidb
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  89. # [04:10] * @davidb wonders about Bug 739455
  90. # [04:10] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739455 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Intermittent TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | chrome://mochitests/content/a11y/accessible/tree/test_tabbrowser
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  94. # [04:25] <@tbsaunde> surkov: we should really get around to having an internal set of relation types
  95. # [04:25] <@tbsaunde> do you remember if we wanted it to be relation::NODE_CHILD_OF or reolations:: or something else?
  96. # [04:25] <@tbsaunde> or do you have a preference?
  97. # [04:25] <@surkov> tbsaunde: I would like that but what does it made you think about this now?
  98. # [04:25] <@surkov> I think relation::
  99. # [04:26] <@tbsaunde> surkov: just saw an include of nsIAccessibleRelation.h
  100. # [04:26] <@surkov> ok
  101. # [04:26] <@tbsaunde> any reason I shouldn't file a gfb to do it?
  102. # [04:26] <@surkov> tbsaunde: we don't have a bug, right?
  103. # [04:26] <@surkov> yeah, please file it
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  111. # [04:30] * Topic is '"build the web for everyone" | release schedule: http://mzl.la/LNc0W | accessibility list https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/accessibility'
  112. # [04:30] * Set by hub on Tue Apr 17 00:34:03
  113. # [04:33] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 748639 filed by trev.saunders@gmail.com.
  114. # [04:34] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748639 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, add set of internal accessible relation types
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  119. # [04:58] <@tbsaunde> surkov: any reason not to enable logging for relations/test_tabbrowser.xul for bug 739455? if so do you want to review the obvious patch, or should I just push it since its test only and we'll back it out when we fix?
  120. # [04:58] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739455 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Intermittent TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | chrome://mochitests/content/a11y/accessible/tree/test_tabbrowser
  121. # [04:58] <@surkov> tbsaunde: we should do that
  122. # [04:58] <@surkov> tbsaunde: I think you can land it without review
  123. # [04:59] <@surkov> I think you know what you do
  124. # [04:59] <@surkov> until you are sure of course
  125. # [05:00] <@tbsaunde> that's what I thought too
  126. # [05:00] * @surkov recall there was a case in the past when the logging was incorrectly enabled
  127. # [05:01] <@surkov> but in general I don't think the review is needed
  128. # [05:02] <@tbsaunde> I'd agre, there isn't really anything to review
  129. # [05:02] <@tbsaunde> uneeded logging is silly, but probably doesn't hurt much
  130. # [05:05] <@surkov> yep, it doesn't hurt
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  133. # [05:17] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 727722 from --- to mozilla15.
  134. # [05:17] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted in-testsuite on bug 727722.
  135. # [05:17] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727722 nor, --, mozilla15, michaljev, NEW, Create an accessible for HTML table row by frame
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  138. # [05:20] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559759 nor, --, mozilla15, markcapella, ASSI, add a11y mochitests for <input type="email">
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  140. # [05:24] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 739882 from --- to mozilla15.
  141. # [05:24] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739882 nor, --, mozilla15, maxli, NEW, decomtaminate getting row and column count on accessible tables
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  144. # [06:06] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted in-testsuite on bug 746358.
  145. # [06:06] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746358 nor, --, mozilla15, hub, ASSI, New role for definition list
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  175. # [06:50] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from hub@mozilla.com for attachment 618073 on bug 739885.
  176. # [06:50] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested feedback from surkov.alexander@gmail.com for attachment 618073 on bug 739885.
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  178. # [06:50] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739885 nor, --, ---, xph9753, ASSI, decomtaminate impl of IsRowSelected() and IsColumnSelected() on accessible tables
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  183. # [07:00] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com denied review for attachment 618073 on bug 739885.
  184. # [07:00] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739885 nor, --, ---, xph9753, ASSI, decomtaminate impl of IsRowSelected() and IsColumnSelected() on accessible tables
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  207. # [07:27] <@tbsaunde> surkov: yeah, will push that and logging in a few was off chating
  208. # [07:27] <@surkov> thanks
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  212. # [07:29] <@firebot> andrew.quartey@gmail.com requested feedback from trev.saunders@gma il.com for attachment 618167 on bug 445516.
  213. # [07:29] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=445516 nor, --, ---, andrew.quartey, ASSI, Support auto-generated=true text attribute on list bullets
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  222. # [07:43] <drexler> surkov: the first failure i get is from the end offset.
  223. # [07:43] <@surkov> drexler: put them into bug please
  224. # [07:43] <drexler> ok.
  225. # [07:45] <@tbsaunde> surkov: do we want to log for bug 745788 too? or do we think that's is a we need to call ensureImageMap() issue?
  226. # [07:45] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745788 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Intermittent a11y/accessible/treeupdate/test_imagemap.html | Test timed out
  227. # [07:46] <@surkov> tbsaunde: makes sense too
  228. # [07:46] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ok
  229. # [07:46] <@surkov> logging should be enabled for any intermittent events failure
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  232. # [07:49] <@tbsaunde> sure, just figured if you thought you knew how to fix it wouldn't make sense to debug
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  235. # [07:54] <@surkov> tbsaunde: ok, it is. btw, please add url to checkins to bugs
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  238. # [08:03] <@tbsaunde> surkov: yeah, will in a minute
  239. # [08:17] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 617811 on bug 745740.
  240. # [08:17] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745740 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, De-ns-ify nsApplicationAccessible
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  242. # [08:24] <@tbsaunde> surkov: want me for anything tonight?
  243. # [08:24] <@surkov> tbsaunde: no
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  245. # [08:31] <@tbsaunde> ok, heading home, will probably be around in a bit for a few
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  288. # [13:02] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from marco.zehe@googlema il.com for attachment 618195 on bug 746868.
  289. # [13:03] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 746868 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  290. # [13:03] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746868 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, Some subtests in test_doc.html fail with Bug 695480
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  300. # [13:39] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 745740 from --- to mozilla15.
  301. # [13:39] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745740 nor, --, mozilla15, markcapella, ASSI, De-ns-ify nsApplicationAccessible
  302. # [13:43] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 748716 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  303. # [13:43] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748716 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, don't export ApplicationAccessibleWrap.h
  304. # [13:48] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 748719 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  305. # [13:48] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748719 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, put ApplicationAccessible class into mozilla::a11y namespace
  306. # [13:57] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 748724 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  307. # [13:57] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748724 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, de-ns-ify nsRootAccessible
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  315. # [14:41] <@davidb> heyo
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  318. # [14:44] <@askalski> davidb, I have an idea on Kilimaniaro/B2G
  319. # [14:45] * @davidb braces for impact
  320. # [14:45] <@askalski> no, it's business again. just make it cheaply available to students. they do miracles during weekends just as hobby
  321. # [14:46] <@askalski> like: submit demo app to get 90% discount or something like this
  322. # [14:46] <@davidb> i think that is part of the picture
  323. # [14:46] <@davidb> but students also want to hack on something real
  324. # [14:46] <@davidb> oh i see
  325. # [14:46] <@davidb> i wonder if we have an internal b2g business contact
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  327. # [14:47] <@askalski> get through tutorial, show that you learned how it works, and you get one almost free
  328. # [14:47] <@askalski> it's like buying hackers
  329. # [14:47] <@askalski> it's expensive, but the hour is late to become a new player on this market
  330. # [14:48] <@davidb> this is known
  331. # [14:48] <@askalski> anyway, just an idea
  332. # [14:48] <@askalski> back to work
  333. # [14:48] <@askalski> :D
  334. # [14:48] <@davidb> ok i'll keep it in mind for jp
  335. # [14:49] <@askalski> generally, both google and MS did it to some point
  336. # [14:49] <@askalski> google and samsung brought us number of devices to university (early android and BADA phones) so everyone can borrow, but that wasn't that cool
  337. # [14:50] <@askalski> and microsoft actually enabled some kind of alliance to help students get money from submitting apps to their marketplace
  338. # [14:50] <@askalski> but again, microsoft is very rich, and even more desperate
  339. # [14:56] <@askalski> surkov, can you help me out with includes?
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  341. # [14:56] <@surkov> what's the problem?
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  343. # [14:59] <@askalski> if I do not export RoleMap.h via base/Makefile.in
  344. # [14:59] <@askalski> I get
  345. # [14:59] <@askalski> In file included from /home/akuda/Moz/mozilla-central/dom/base/nsFocusManager.cpp:94:0:
  346. # [14:59] <@askalski> ../../dist/include/nsAccessibilityService.h:304:21: fatal error: RoleMap.h: Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu
  347. # [14:59] <@askalski> compilation terminated.
  348. # [14:59] <@askalski> (no such file)
  349. # [14:59] <@askalski> and once I do, I get double definition of ... (compiling to get error)
  350. # [15:01] <@surkov> funny that polish has own word for file :)
  351. # [15:02] <@surkov> that's because you include RoleMap.h into nsAccessibilityService.h
  352. # [15:02] <@surkov> right?
  353. # [15:02] <@surkov> askalski:
  354. # [15:03] <@askalski> right
  355. # [15:03] <@askalski> because Trevor asked me
  356. # [15:03] <@askalski> to expand "string" as well
  357. # [15:03] <@surkov> hm, why did he asked that?
  358. # [15:03] <@surkov> you can keep them in cpp
  359. # [15:03] <@surkov> after all you just implement xpcom interface method
  360. # [15:03] <@askalski> right. declaration in .h and definition in .cpp, right?
  361. # [15:03] <@surkov> declaration of the method
  362. # [15:04] <@askalski> it's an array
  363. # [15:04] <@surkov> so why would you need to RoleMap.h there
  364. # [15:04] <@surkov> is it auto generated array?
  365. # [15:04] <@surkov> you can keep it in cpp as well
  366. # [15:04] <@askalski> static const char kRoleNames[][20] = {
  367. # [15:04] <@askalski> line 302
  368. # [15:04] <@askalski> yeah
  369. # [15:04] <@askalski> thanks, I stuck on it yesterday for 20 mins :(
  370. # [15:05] <@surkov> hoho
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  375. # [15:27] <@davidb> MarcoZ: did we start getting nighties on our a11y branch?
  376. # [15:38] <@davidb> !seen jprmc
  377. # [15:39] <@davidb> jhk: ping
  378. # [15:39] <@firebot> jprmc was last seen 12 hours, 36 minutes and 44 seconds ago, saying 'blassey_: could get messy soon though with the onslaught of m-c landings' in #mobile.
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  380. # [15:49] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Not yet, bug 747976 is still open.
  381. # [15:49] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=747976 is not accessible
  382. # [15:50] <@askalski> ../../dist/include/nsAccessibilityService.h:303:19: error: uninitialized const ‘kRoleNames’ [-fpermissive]
  383. # [15:50] <@askalski> ../../dist/include/nsAccessibilityService.h:303:34: error: storage size of ‘kRoleNames’ isn’t known
  384. # [15:50] <@askalski> surkov, ^
  385. # [15:50] <@MarcoZ> Hm, is that the one? Not sure. It's the one where something needs to be run on the SQL database and hasn't happened yet.
  386. # [15:50] <@davidb> rings a bell
  387. # [15:51] <@surkov> askalski: hard to say without looking at code
  388. # [15:51] <@askalski> that is a patch I am working on
  389. # [15:51] <@askalski> I can submit it again
  390. # [15:51] <@askalski> surkov,
  391. # [15:52] <@surkov> ok
  392. # [15:53] <@askalski> surkov, done. it applies on recent mozilla-central out of box
  393. # [15:54] <@surkov> askalski: I think because you define kRoleNames after you use them
  394. # [15:54] <@surkov> c++ is not js
  395. # [15:54] <@askalski> surkov I have a proposition of solution - change it to function
  396. # [15:55] <@askalski> surkov, no, it's not that. I guess that declaring constant requires it to be defined immediately
  397. # [15:55] <@surkov> askalski: that's fine, just move it on top of file
  398. # [15:55] <@surkov> or before the method implementation
  399. # [15:56] <@askalski> surkov, which method?
  400. # [15:56] <@askalski> ah
  401. # [15:56] <@askalski> right
  402. # [15:57] <@surkov> askalski: please get back right askalski, that guy knows c++ ;)
  403. # [15:58] <@askalski> surkov, 1) didn't get it 2) same error after changing the order
  404. # [15:58] <@surkov> askalski: let me try
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  406. # [15:59] <@askalski> surkov, sure
  407. # [15:59] <@askalski> surkov, pick patch proposition 3 fro mbagzilla
  408. # [15:59] <@surkov> sure
  409. # [16:00] <@surkov> askalski: can you move it completely to cpp part, you keep definition in h
  410. # [16:00] <@surkov> ?
  411. # [16:02] <@surkov> askalski: so that error goes away, I have huge amount of warnings and errors on msaa part about sMSAARoles and sIA2Roles
  412. # [16:03] <@surkov> askalski: what platform do you use?
  413. # [16:03] <@surkov> linux?
  414. # [16:03] <@askalski> surkov, can you post your solution? Because I believe that's what I did, but didn't work for me.
  415. # [16:03] <@askalski> linux.
  416. # [16:03] <@askalski> but I am compiling on windows as well
  417. # [16:03] <@askalski> just as second check
  418. # [16:04] <@surkov> askalski: just remove kRoleNames from .h and move kRoleNames before method implementation
  419. # [16:04] <@surkov> in .cpp
  420. # [16:04] <@askalski> surkov, so no kRoleNames in .h at all, right?
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  422. # [16:04] <@askalski> not even a declaration
  423. # [16:04] <@surkov> yes
  424. # [16:04] <@surkov> yes
  425. # [16:04] <@askalski> surkov, OK
  426. # [16:05] <@surkov> what's for?
  427. # [16:05] <@surkov> you use it in cpp so declare it there
  428. # [16:05] <@surkov> and define
  429. # [16:05] <@surkov> we don't need it visible outside
  430. # [16:05] <@askalski> surkov, compiling
  431. # [16:05] <@surkov> MarcoZ: what about mochitest review?
  432. # [16:06] <@surkov> askalski: do you have windows? because your patch has compilation issues on windows, try server is not super fast solution for that
  433. # [16:07] <@askalski> surkov, yes, I do have complete windows setup working, I will be on it as soon as I get linux working
  434. # [16:07] <@surkov> ok, cool
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  442. # [16:22] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 563862 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  443. # [16:22] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 563862 to FIXED.
  444. # [16:22] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=563862 nor, --, mozilla15, dbolter, RESO FIXED, Expand support for nsIAccessibleEvent::OBJECT_ATTRIBUTE_CHANGED
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  447. # [16:25] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 746358 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  448. # [16:25] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 746358 to FIXED.
  449. # [16:25] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746358 nor, --, mozilla15, hub, RESO FIXED, New role for definition list
  450. # [16:27] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 718690 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  451. # [16:27] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 718690 to FIXED.
  452. # [16:28] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=718690 nor, P2, mozilla15, nobody, RESO FIXED, [Mac] Various form element states not communicated to VoiceOver
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  457. # [16:45] <@askalski> surkov, hmm, now I have an error of defining AtkRoleFor() twice in the same file...
  458. # [16:45] <@surkov> I don't have linux currently, same patch?
  459. # [16:46] <@askalski> yes
  460. # [16:46] <@askalski> after applying your points
  461. # [16:46] <@surkov> error messages?
  462. # [16:46] <@MarcoZ> Done putting all the disablings and partial fixes into proper patches.
  463. # [16:46] <@surkov> MarcoZ: plans to review bug 746868 ?
  464. # [16:46] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746868 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, Some subtests in test_doc.html fail with Bug 695480
  465. # [16:47] <@surkov> askalski: ^
  466. # [16:47] <@askalski> /home/akuda/Moz/mozilla-central/accessible/src/atk/nsRoleMap.h:56: multiple definition of `AtkRoleFor(mozilla::a11y::roles::Role)'
  467. # [16:47] <@askalski> ../../accessible/src/atk/nsAccessibleWrap.o:/home/akuda/Moz/mozilla-central/accessible/src/atk/nsRoleMap.h:56: first defined here
  468. # [16:48] <@askalski> surkov, I wrapped the file with #ifndef directives, didn't help
  469. # [16:48] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 727722 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  470. # [16:48] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 727722 to FIXED.
  471. # [16:48] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727722 nor, --, mozilla15, michaljev, RESO FIXED, Create an accessible for HTML table row by frame
  472. # [16:49] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 739882 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  473. # [16:49] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 739882 to FIXED.
  474. # [16:49] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739882 nor, --, mozilla15, maxli, RESO FIXED, decomtaminate getting row and column count on accessible tables
  475. # [16:49] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 559759 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  476. # [16:49] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 559759 to FIXED.
  477. # [16:49] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559759 nor, --, mozilla15, markcapella, RESO FIXED, add a11y mochitests for <input type="email">
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  480. # [16:51] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 747588 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  481. # [16:52] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 747588 to FIXED.
  482. # [16:52] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 747588 from --- to mozilla15.
  483. # [16:52] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=747588 nor, --, mozilla15, trev.saunders, RESO FIXED, nsHTMLImageAccessible should set eImageAccessible in mFlags
  484. # [16:53] <@surkov> askalski: I wouldn't impressed if you get linker errors here but compilation error - not sure. But why don't you keep it as a method of nsAccessibleWrap class? iirc that was idea?
  485. # [16:54] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Re bug 746868, so are we dealing with mere scoping problems of those calls to get DOMNodes etc.?
  486. # [16:54] <@askalski> surkov, you're right. I remember moving something from class to nsRoleMap.h just to make modules look more similar
  487. # [16:54] <@askalski> surkov, I will undo this change
  488. # [16:54] <@askalski> thanks
  489. # [16:55] <@davidb> * currently ff team is running fennec xul on win8
  490. # [16:55] <@surkov> sort of scoping problems, just switching to use accessible instead of DOM nodes
  491. # [16:55] <@MarcoZ> surkov: OK, I see, thanks! Will r+ in a sec.
  492. # [16:55] <@surkov> cool, thanks!
  493. # [16:55] <@surkov> askalski: that should be for all modules
  494. # [16:57] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com granted review for attachment 618195 on bug 746868.
  495. # [16:57] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746868 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, Some subtests in test_doc.html fail with Bug 695480
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  497. # [16:57] <@davidb> i wonder how accessible fennec xul is currently on windows
  498. # [17:01] <@askalski> surkov, so move all these functions to nsAccessibleWrap classes?
  499. # [17:02] <@surkov> askalski: yes, ATKRole(), IA2Role(), MSAARole(), NSAccRole()?
  500. # [17:04] <@hub> not NSAccRole()
  501. # [17:04] <@hub> Mac if you want. not NS
  502. # [17:05] <@askalski> hub, thanks
  503. # [17:05] <@askalski> hub, hi btw. how are you?
  504. # [17:05] <@hub> good
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  511. # [17:14] <@tbsaunde|afk> surkov: for windows why not just inline ia2Role() / msaaRole() inthe one place we use them?
  512. # [17:14] * tbsaunde|afk is now known as tbsaunder
  513. # [17:15] <@surkov> tbsaunde: yep
  514. # [17:15] <@surkov> tbsaunder: but that makes us to export RoleMap
  515. # [17:15] <@askalski> surkov, ok, so the change I made was not to Atk, but there is no difference with that
  516. # [17:15] <@surkov> until we do -inl.h
  517. # [17:16] <@askalski> surkov, but: method public or private or protected?
  518. # [17:16] <@surkov> askalski: public I think
  519. # [17:16] <@tbsaunder> surkov: I'd don't follow
  520. # [17:16] <@surkov> tbsaunder: I'm fine to keep ia2Role() inline the question how
  521. # [17:17] <@tbsaunder> surkov: no, I mean just put the switch inside get_Role()
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  523. # [17:17] <@surkov> tbsaunde: ah, if that's unique usecase then yes
  524. # [17:17] <@tbsaunde> it looks like it is
  525. # [17:19] <@tbsaunde> hub: so, are you planning to change the default on mac to build a11y?
  526. # [17:19] <@tbsaunde> I mean soon
  527. # [17:19] <@tbsaunde> I'd say we should do it in the next day or two unless there is a reason not to I'm unaware
  528. # [17:26] <@askalski> surkov, we can do this method static
  529. # [17:26] <@askalski> surkov, what do you think?
  530. # [17:26] <@askalski> surkov, it does not use any fields
  531. # [17:27] <@surkov> askalski: for msaa it makes sense to define it in acc_role as trevor suggested, for atk, I think I prefer to keep it as not static method
  532. # [17:27] <@surkov> because static means it should take an argument
  533. # [17:27] <@surkov> accessibleWrap
  534. # [17:27] <@surkov> so you should do something like nsAccessibleWrap::AtkRole(accWrap) instead of accWrap->AtkRole()
  535. # [17:27] <@askalski> surkov, on a contrary, static means it's like global, not bound to any particular object
  536. # [17:28] <@askalski> surkov, so I guess static is what we want
  537. # [17:28] <@askalski> public static
  538. # [17:28] <@surkov> why?
  539. # [17:28] <@surkov> I mean in the case of static you should do
  540. # [17:28] <@askalski> as you said, non-static method requires an object
  541. # [17:28] <@askalski> surkov, ok
  542. # [17:28] <@askalski> surkov, so + static
  543. # [17:29] <@askalski> :)
  544. # [17:29] <@surkov> all of them requires object, syntax gets vary
  545. # [17:29] <@surkov> I think I prefer non static method
  546. # [17:29] <@askalski> surkov, no. static is like global but in namespace
  547. # [17:29] <@tbsaunde> surkov: the trick is that nsMaiInterfaceText wants to convert NativeRole() into a atk role
  548. # [17:29] <@askalski> and no-static means, it will receive a *this pointer as argument
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  550. # [17:29] <@askalski> transparently
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  552. # [17:30] <@surkov> yes
  553. # [17:30] <@hub> tbsaunde: I'm not sure mochitest passes, still
  554. # [17:30] <@askalski> do we want it? we make no use od *this in the method
  555. # [17:30] <@surkov> so it's the same but syntax varies
  556. # [17:30] <@hub> tbsaunde: without that I can't turn it on. But I can work on that
  557. # [17:30] <@askalski> surkov, no :D
  558. # [17:30] <@askalski> it's not
  559. # [17:30] <@askalski> really
  560. # [17:30] <@askalski> c'
  561. # [17:30] <@tbsaunde> hub: shouldn't matter
  562. # [17:30] <@askalski> c'mon
  563. # [17:30] <@surkov> askalski: what's difference/
  564. # [17:30] <@surkov> ?
  565. # [17:30] <@askalski> look: if you do object.foo()
  566. # [17:30] <@tbsaunde> we can't tell releng to turn on mochitest-a11y, but we can buidl it
  567. # [17:30] <@askalski> the name mangling mechanism of compiler would expand it to
  568. # [17:31] <@askalski> __object__foo(object this){..}
  569. # [17:31] <@askalski> and if you do object::foo()
  570. # [17:31] <@askalski> it will expand it to
  571. # [17:31] <@askalski> __object__foo(){..}
  572. # [17:31] <@askalski> right? no additional argument
  573. # [17:31] <@askalski> again, good compiler will remove it anyway
  574. # [17:31] <@surkov> askalski: yes but I do object::foo(nsAccesislbeWrap* )
  575. # [17:31] <@surkov> otherwise what you're going to map?
  576. # [17:32] <@askalski> at this point
  577. # [17:32] <@tbsaunde> so, I wonder if we shouldn't just beat sense into nsMaiInterfaceText and then we'd only have one use
  578. # [17:32] <@askalski> GetAtkRole is defined as mozilla::a11y::role -> PRUint32
  579. # [17:32] <@askalski> surkov, ^
  580. # [17:32] <@askalski> makes no use of any kind of nsAccessibleWrap object at all
  581. # [17:33] <@askalski> since it was outside the class, I am moving it from nsRoleMap.h as requested
  582. # [17:33] <@tbsaunde> askalski: I think surkov is asking you to change that :)
  583. # [17:33] <@askalski> right, but as you said tbsaunde
  584. # [17:33] <@surkov> tbsaunde: what do you prefer?
  585. # [17:34] <@tbsaunde> as I said I think if it were me I might just fix nsMaiInterfaceText.cpp so it didn't need this conversion, and then you can just inline the conversion
  586. # [17:34] <@surkov> tbsaunde: you talk about bug you filed yesterday?
  587. # [17:34] <@askalski> tbsaunde, I am quoting you now:
  588. # [17:34] <@askalski> "Ideally we could have AtkRole() on nsAccessibleWrap, but we need to clean up nsMaiInterfaceText.cpp first."
  589. # [17:34] <@askalski> so I did the mapping instead of object method, to not break more stuff
  590. # [17:34] <@tbsaunde> if you don't want to do that I'd probably add a member to nsAccessibleWrap ATKRole ATKRole();
  591. # [17:35] <@tbsaunde> surkov: yes
  592. # [17:35] <@surkov> tbsaunde: than yes, I agree
  593. # [17:35] <@surkov> so until ATKRole() or whatever is temporary thing then I don't care
  594. # [17:36] <@surkov> perhaps it makes sense to fix that bug prior this bug
  595. # [17:36] <@tbsaunde> surkov: I'd agree with both of that
  596. # [17:36] <@surkov> askalski: anyway since you're going to touch that code then maybe you could fix that bug before?
  597. # [17:37] <@askalski> surkov, honestly I would prefer to do it in series. right now I am working on patch that touches 10 files or something
  598. # [17:37] <@surkov> bug 748601
  599. # [17:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748601 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, nsMaiInterfaceText.cpp should check internal role not atk role
  600. # [17:37] <@surkov> ok
  601. # [17:37] <@surkov> but that shouldn't be a problem
  602. # [17:38] <@askalski> surkov, so my suggestion is: I will move it to class so shit compile again, and remember it is to be removed
  603. # [17:38] <@surkov> if you get merging conflicts in those files then you just ignore them
  604. # [17:38] <@askalski> surkov, because right now I can do no testing, compile fails
  605. # [17:38] <@surkov> ok
  606. # [17:38] <@davidb> hub: MarcoZ is prepping patches to tweak tests for mac on trunk
  607. # [17:38] <@askalski> surkov, thanks. so no it's indifferent now whether it's public or static public, right?
  608. # [17:39] <@askalski> surkov, until the argument is eliminated
  609. # [17:39] <@surkov> yes, I don't care
  610. # [17:39] <@davidb> hub: I think having 6 weeks with it on on trunk is interesting. we can decide to revert before uplift
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  612. # [17:42] <@tbsaunde> hub: I'm not sure I understand why you want to wait for tests to pass before building a11y
  613. # [17:43] <@tbsaunde> you should probably push to try to confirm, but I'm pretty sure while running tests depends on building a11y I'm pretty sure we don't need to start running tests immediately on building
  614. # [17:44] <@hub> davidb: yeah ok, let's do it then
  615. # [17:44] <@hub> tbsaunde: I'll push to try first.
  616. # [17:45] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 746868 from --- to mozilla15.
  617. # [17:45] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746868 nor, --, mozilla15, surkov.alexander, ASSI, Some subtests in test_doc.html fail with Bug 695480
  618. # [17:46] <@surkov> davidb: hub what do you want to keep on trunk?
  619. # [17:46] <@hub> surkov: mac a11y enabled
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  621. # [17:46] <@hub> surkov: by default
  622. # [17:46] <@surkov> hub: oh, yes, sure
  623. # [17:46] <@MarcoZ> hub: Do you want ot review all those little patches for the test failure/disabling/temp fixes thingies?
  624. # [17:47] <@hub> MarcoZ: sure, why not :-)
  625. # [17:47] <@askalski> surkov, I will need someone to test mac build
  626. # [17:47] <@askalski> surkov, I have no mac
  627. # [17:47] <@MarcoZ> Unless surkov insists on doing it instead. :D
  628. # [17:47] <@surkov> MarcoZ: if you fix something then ask for review, if you disable then don't (but file a bug on it)
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  630. # [17:47] <@surkov> I'm fine
  631. # [17:47] <@davidb> OMG
  632. # [17:48] <@askalski> surkov, OK, I will put you as reviewer
  633. # [17:48] <@davidb> i just saw a neat tool
  634. # [17:48] * @davidb looks it up
  635. # [17:48] <@surkov> I think I'll see those bugs in bug mail so I skim through them
  636. # [17:48] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Yeah, some "fix" stuff temporarily so they pass, but the "fix" is interesting because it shows what's wrong.
  637. # [17:48] <@surkov> but I don't need to review them of course
  638. # [17:48] <@MarcoZ> surkov: For example I'm getting a couple of test failures in hittest/test_general.html and hittest/test_zoom.html where the deepest child is identical to the regular child on mac, whereas on the other platforms it's different.
  639. # [17:49] <@surkov> MarcoZ: that's strange and should be a bug I guess
  640. # [17:49] <@surkov> iirc I saw a bug on it (maybe a patch)
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  642. # [17:50] <@surkov> MarcoZ: was that a patch?
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  644. # [17:51] <@askalski> surkov, ok, so here's the deal
  645. # [17:51] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com requested review from hub@mozilla.com for attachment 618290 on bug 746164.
  646. # [17:51] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746164 nor, --, mozilla14, marco.zehe, RESO FIXED, Failure for the shortcut keys in actions/test_keys.html b/accessible/tests/mochitest/actions/test_ke
  647. # [17:52] <@askalski> surkov, once I remove AXRoles to replace it with "nsAccessibleWrap::GetMacRoleFor()" I will most probably break Mac build
  648. # [17:52] <@davidb> well holy crap!
  649. # [17:52] <@davidb> https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Debugging/Existing_Tools
  650. # [17:52] <@davidb> about:cc is cool
  651. # [17:52] * @davidb ponders an advanced about:a11y
  652. # [17:53] <@surkov> askalski: why?
  653. # [17:53] <@askalski> surkov, cause I can't write "make" to get compile errors that tell me where AXRoles is used :D
  654. # [17:54] <@surkov> ah, you should be careful and do try sever builds :) or ask somebody like hub or me
  655. # [17:54] <@tbsaunde> you can use grep :)
  656. # [17:54] <@askalski> tbsaunde, I am doing that now :D
  657. # [17:55] <@surkov> askalski: good news that AXRoles are used in one place so you don't need a method for it
  658. # [17:55] <@surkov> there's an assertion though
  659. # [17:55] <@askalski> surkov, I got it
  660. # [17:55] <@surkov> but perhaps we don't need it anymore
  661. # [17:55] <@MarcoZ> surkov: it was a bug, patch coming.
  662. # [17:56] <@surkov> ok
  663. # [17:58] <@askalski> surkov, are these mm files in objective-c?
  664. # [17:58] <@surkov> yes
  665. # [17:58] <@askalski> uhh
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  667. # [17:58] <@askalski> surkov, can you tell me how to replace then
  668. # [17:58] <@askalski> return (NSString*) AXRoles[mRole];
  669. # [17:58] <@surkov> by autogen switch?
  670. # [17:58] <@tbsaunde> askalski: probably just write a c++ switch
  671. # [17:59] <@surkov> hub ^
  672. # [17:59] <@askalski> ok... so expand the function there instead of doing static const NSString* MacRoleFor(mozilla::a11y::role aRole); ?
  673. # [17:59] <@askalski> in nsAccessibleWrap.h in mac?
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  675. # [17:59] <@MarcoZ> Bah, missed one!
  676. # [18:00] <@tbsaunde> I think so
  677. # [18:00] <@tbsaunde> not completely sure I follow what you mean though
  678. # [18:00] <@hub> askalski, surkov: try build don't build a11y by default. You need to explicitely enable it
  679. # [18:00] <@askalski> hub, thanks
  680. # [18:00] <@hub> askalski: .mm is Objective-C++
  681. # [18:00] <@hub> .m is Objective-C
  682. # [18:00] <@tbsaunde> hub: try will build mac a11y for debug builds
  683. # [18:01] <@tbsaunde> which is probably good enough for this
  684. # [18:02] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 746164 from RESOLVED to REOPENED.
  685. # [18:02] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com cleared the Resolution 'FIXED' from bug 746164.
  686. # [18:02] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746164 nor, --, mozilla14, marco.zehe, REOP, Failure for the shortcut keys in actions/test_keys.html b/accessible/tests/mochitest/actions/test_ke
  687. # [18:04] <@askalski> hub, tbsaunde, still haven't fixed try access :/
  688. # [18:05] <@surkov> hub, any reason that try build doesn't build mac a11y since inbound does this?
  689. # [18:05] <@surkov> ah, I see, what tbsaunde said
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  691. # [18:11] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 618311 on bug 746974.
  692. # [18:11] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746974 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, hittest/ tests expect direct accessible, not text leaves or the like as deepest child on Mac
  693. # [18:12] <@MarcoZ> Done.
  694. # [18:14] <@tbsaunde> MarcoZ: so, can you not debug on mac, or do you just not have time to try?
  695. # [18:15] <@MarcoZ> tbsaunde: Chicken and egg problem: If I use VoiceOver to debug, it will mess up the test runs badly.
  696. # [18:16] <@MarcoZ> tbsaunde: Also, if I pause the browser, VoiceOver will get stuck, too. Same problem on Windows, btw.
  697. # [18:17] <@tbsaunde> MarcoZ: you've tried and found voice over gets stuck, or actually confirmed that?
  698. # [18:18] <@tbsaunde> I'd think if your careful you might be able to keep voice over from trying to look at firefox
  699. # [18:18] <@MarcoZ> I've tried to do test runs with VoiceOver on, and it just didn't work because I got failures that I wouldn't get if VoiceOver wasn't running.
  700. # [18:18] <@tbsaunde> interesting, I usually don't kill orca shut tell it not to say anything
  701. # [18:19] <@tbsaunde> *just
  702. # [18:19] <@MarcoZ> tbsaunde: I wouldn't know how to keep VoiceOver from looking at Firefox. As soon as Firefox gets focus, it *will* look at Firefox.
  703. # [18:19] <@tbsaunde> I also usually don't use orca with the debugger, which is a trick you cn probably make work on mac too with enough work
  704. # [18:20] <@hub> ok, I have to run to the office now. see you in a bit
  705. # [18:20] <@MarcoZ> What do you then use to gain access to the debugger output?
  706. # [18:20] <@tbsaunde> by keeping focus on the terminal with a debugger, though that may cause problems for a few tests not really sure
  707. # [18:20] <@tbsaunde> a second screen reader
  708. # [18:21] <@MarcoZ> There is no second screen reader on the Mac.
  709. # [18:22] <@tbsaunde> 3333
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  711. # [18:24] <@tbsaunde> MarcoZ: I believe people have hit yasr with a hammer until it worked on mac
  712. # [18:24] <@tbsaunde> (in terminals only)
  713. # [18:24] <@tbsaunde> but I've never personally tried that
  714. # [18:25] <@tbsaunde> though I probably will if I need to start doing a bit of work on mac
  715. # [18:25] <@MarcoZ> tbsaunde: I'm not ready to do that just now I think. Additionally, I wouldn't know how to use the debugger in a terminal window yet, so there would be more than one steep learning curve involved.
  716. # [18:25] <@tbsaunde> sure
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  718. # [18:25] <@MarcoZ> My one and only try at a stab at gdb (or was it dbg?) on Linux turned out to be very unfruitful.
  719. # [18:41] <@davidb> gdb
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  727. # [19:12] <@MarcoZ> OK, done for the day....See you tomorrow!
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  733. # [19:33] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=716644 nor, --, ---, askalski, NEW, expandoify accessible roles
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  746. # [20:42] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=733513 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, Enable accessibility on Mac
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  760. # [21:25] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 618384 on bug 575976.
  761. # [21:25] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=575976 nor, --, ---, dbolter, NEW, ARIA conformance, relation trumps role=presentation
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  767. # [21:50] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com granted review for attachment 618290 on bug 746164.
  768. # [21:50] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746164 nor, --, mozilla14, marco.zehe, REOP, Failure for the shortcut keys in actions/test_keys.html b/accessible/tests/mochitest/actions/test_ke
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  776. # [22:02] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested feedback from surkov.alexander@ gmail.com for attachment 618404 on bug 559747.
  777. # [22:02] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559747 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, make <input type="search"> accessible
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  792. # [23:33] <@firebot> ted.mielczarek@gmail.com denied review for attachment 618373 on bug 733513.
  793. # [23:33] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=733513 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, Enable accessibility on Mac
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  797. # [23:59] <@eeejay> mozilla-inbound is closed
  798. # [23:59] <@eeejay> *sad face*
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