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- # [02:20] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 751428 filed by eitan@monotonous.org.
- # [02:20] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751428 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Remove spaces and catch exceptions when localizing role names
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- # [02:21] <@hub> does anyone know how I can know a PROPERTYPAGE inside a PANE is the one that's "selected"
- # [02:21] <@hub> NativeState() does not seem to return anything
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- # [02:33] <@davidb> eeejay: a review already eh?
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- # [02:33] <@eeejay> davidb, i am ready for your brutal honesty
- # [02:33] <@davidb> oh this was from alex?
- # [02:34] <@davidb> oh tab switch error
- # [02:34] <@eeejay> davidb, no. from me
- # [02:34] <@davidb> ok
- # [02:34] <@hub> eeejay: you suck.
- # [02:34] <@hub> is that brutal enough ;-) ?
- # [02:34] <@davidb> eeejay: why do some role names have spaces?
- # [02:34] <@davidb> hub: it is up there
- # [02:35] <@eeejay> hub, ouch, yeah. i'll get back to you with an improved me
- # [02:36] <@eeejay> davidb, i don't know! it is the strings from RoleMap.h
- # [02:36] <@eeejay> davidb, which is what nsIAccessibleRetrieval gives
- # [02:37] <@davidb> ok well i can investigate that on another bug
- # [02:41] <@eeejay> didn't realize it is a problem.
- # [02:41] <@davidb> unexplained things like this can uncover more serious flaws
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- # [02:53] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 620540 on bug 750612.
- # [02:53] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750612 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [Mac] Too much is exposed to VoiceOver that is actually not currently visible/interactable
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- # [02:54] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested review from the wind for attachment 620532 on bug 751428.
- # [02:54] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested review from dbolter@mozilla.com for attachment 620536 on bug 751428.
- # [02:54] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751428 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Remove spaces and catch exceptions when localizing role names
- # [02:54] <@davidb> firebot: you are slow
- # [02:55] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com cancelled review? for attachment 620532 on bug 751428.
- # [02:55] <@firebot> davidb: But you are 'talking to a bot and that's just sad.'...
- # [02:55] * @davidb cries a little
- # [02:56] <@davidb> btw eeejay don't worry that cancelled review was an obsolete patch
- # [02:57] <@eeejay> oh yeah, bugzilla is weird
- # [03:05] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 751435 filed by dbolter@mozilla.com.
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- # [03:13] <@eeejay> davidb, i think you misunderstood me earlier, sorry :P
- # [03:13] * @eeejay runds out to get sushi
- # [03:14] <@davidb> eeejay: hmm?
- # [03:14] <@davidb> about what?
- # [03:14] <@eeejay> davidb, the spaces are not artifacts, and are not trailing
- # [03:14] <@eeejay> it is in the actual name
- # [03:14] <@davidb> eeejay: give me an example?
- # [03:15] <@eeejay> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751435#c1
- # [03:15] <@eeejay> davidb, "check menu item"
- # [03:15] <@davidb> ah i see the bug.
- # [03:15] <@davidb> ok cool
- # [03:15] <@davidb> you don't want the spaces because of the way it sounds when spoken?
- # [03:16] <@eeejay> davidb, no. i don't mind the spaces, but I use the role strings to lookup localized names
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- # [03:16] <@davidb> ah i see
- # [03:16] <@davidb> ok cool
- # [03:16] <@davidb> bon appetite
- # [03:16] <@eeejay> davidb, and afaik, you can't have spaces in the keys in a properties file
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- # [03:17] <@davidb> right
- # [03:19] <@davidb> eeejay: switching to .apply… did that fix anything?
- # [03:20] <@davidb> (i seem to recall how that works)
- # [03:20] <@davidb> (but am curious about this case)
- # [03:26] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com granted review for attachment 620536 on bug 751428.
- # [03:26] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751428 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Remove spaces and catch exceptions when localizing role names
- # [03:43] <@eeejay> davidb, yeah, mock encapsulation, that's what i meant :)
- # [03:43] <@davidb> heheh
- # [03:43] <@davidb> well i should have said privacy to avoid the double def
- # [03:43] <@eeejay> davidb, yeah, (re apply) sometimes a js method doesn't know its own self (this)
- # [03:43] <@davidb> right
- # [03:44] <@davidb> in this case how was it manifesting an error?
- # [03:44] <@davidb> why am i using long words?
- # [03:44] <@davidb> eeejay: that was fast sushi
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- # [03:44] <@eeejay> sushi to go
- # [03:44] <@davidb> ah
- # [03:45] <@davidb> hub: did your patch speed things up?
- # [03:47] <@hub> davidb: it is not really about speed but more about correctness
- # [03:47] <@hub> we should show stuff that is not visible
- # [03:48] <@davidb> i haven't looked deeply at your patch so i'm not sure where you are putting the bail
- # [03:49] <@davidb> i'd be curious if safari prunes
- # [03:49] <@davidb> i need to stop trying to think now
- # [03:50] <@davidb> i had little sleep last night (was watching videos of families reunited)
- # [03:50] <@hub> safari does
- # [03:51] <@hub> but this is in the same vain as the CSS display:none that Marco is complaining about
- # [03:51] <@hub> because it is still visible to screen reader
- # [03:52] <@davidb> ok
- # [03:53] <@hub> I'm sure that if it is wrong, surkov will tell me :-D
- # [03:53] <@davidb> heh
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- # [04:38] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested feedback from trev.saunders@gma il.com for attachment 620564 on bug 750287.
- # [04:38] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com changed the Status on bug 750287 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
- # [04:38] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750287 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, don't cache is form fill enabled pref
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- # [06:13] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 748716 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
- # [06:13] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 748716 to FIXED.
- # [06:13] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748716 nor, --, mozilla15, markcapella, RESO FIXED, don't export ApplicationAccessibleWrap.h
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- # [06:19] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 750193 from --- to mozilla15.
- # [06:19] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750193 nor, --, mozilla15, maxli, NEW, get rid useless DEBUG_A11Y code
- # [06:20] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 750196 from --- to mozilla15.
- # [06:20] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 750853 from --- to mozilla15.
- # [06:20] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750196 nor, --, mozilla15, maxli, NEW, remove ROLE_SYSTEM_ definitions
- # [06:20] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750853 nor, --, mozilla15, hub, NEW, mozilla/a11y/Role.h:817: error: comma at end of enumerator list
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- # [06:23] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 748601 from --- to mozilla15.
- # [06:23] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748601 nor, --, mozilla15, maxli, NEW, nsMaiInterfaceText.cpp should check internal role not atk role
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- # [06:33] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 740747 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
- # [06:33] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 740747 to FIXED.
- # [06:33] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=740747 nor, --, mozilla15, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, dexpcom nsAccessible::GetName
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- # [07:22] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Target Milestone on bug 749812 from --- to mozilla15.
- # [07:22] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=749812 nor, --, mozilla15, eitan, NEW, [AccessFu] Display text editing changes
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- # [07:23] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=747272 nor, --, mozilla15, eitan, NEW, [AccessFu] Filter out whitespace text leaves in navigation
- # [07:24] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Target Milestone on bug 751428 from --- to mozilla15.
- # [07:24] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751428 nor, --, mozilla15, eitan, NEW, [AccessFu] Remove spaces and catch exceptions when localizing role names
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- # [08:16] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com denied feedback for attachment 620540 on bug 750612.
- # [08:16] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750612 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [Mac] Too much is exposed to VoiceOver that is actually not currently visible/interactable
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- # [08:32] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 620540 on bug 750612.
- # [08:32] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750612 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [Mac] Too much is exposed to VoiceOver that is actually not currently visible/interactable
- # [08:36] <@tbsaunde> surkov: hey, anything I need to review soon? or will saturday be fne?
- # [08:37] <@surkov> tbsaunde: i'd be nice if you review Mark's patches
- # [08:37] <@surkov> tbsaunde: like bug 748724
- # [08:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748724 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, de-ns-ify nsRootAccessible
- # [08:38] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ok, that sounds long :/
- # [08:38] <@surkov> tbsaunde: well, it's big but it should be mostly ok :)
- # [08:38] <@surkov> it's not the first iteration
- # [08:38] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ok, I'll try and look
- # [08:38] <@surkov> thx!
- # [08:40] <@tbsaunde> np, just have a bunch of school work to do since its the last week before finals
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- # [10:34] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 751493 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
- # [10:35] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751493 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, move out the nsHTMLComboboxListAccessible logic from nsHTMLSelectListAccessible::NativeRole
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- # [10:44] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 751496 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
- # [10:44] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 620620 on bug 751496.
- # [10:44] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751496 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, get rid nsAccessible::GetBoundaryFrame
- # [10:44] <icaaq> MarcoZ: do you have a minute to test a thing? it's the new mozilla social share thing i've been playing with to make it more accessible. http://icaaq.com/sandbox/mozilla/SocialShare/large.html
- # [10:45] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 751497 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
- # [10:45] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751497 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, replace nsHTMLSelectOptionAccessible::GetSelectState by nice inline
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- # [10:56] <@MarcoZ> icaaq: Sure thing, let me take a look!
- # [10:58] <icaaq> MarcoZ: I've also made a version where I use aria-pressed on the button here http://icaaq.com/sandbox/mozilla/SocialShare2/large.html
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- # [11:02] <icaaq> Internet went down, now i'm back :)
- # [11:03] <@MarcoZ> icaaq: I definitely like the first version better. It is more appropriate to announce the expansion and collapsing of this toggle button to share stuff.
- # [11:04] <@MarcoZ> icaaq: The three iframes inside the list are OK. However, following the list of 3 items, there are another 3 iframes (or similar) that I don#t know what to make of. The first two contain hugely long facebook URLs, the third contains some warning about an URL not being from the original referrer or something.
- # [11:05] <@MarcoZ> icaaq: These two iframes with links and the one with the warning also stay when one collapses the button/share features again.
- # [11:05] <@MarcoZ> These are in both versions.
- # [11:05] <@MarcoZ> In terms of button, as I said, the first one is perfect.
- # [11:10] <icaaq> MarcoZ: Great thanks. regarding the iframes after the list, it's the fb-root element that is stuffed with stuff from facebook. maybe I can add something to that element to make invisible even for AT-users
- # [11:13] <@MarcoZ> If you have a common element these get added to: "display: none;" should do the trick.
- # [11:18] <icaaq> yes, but I think the some elements inside the iframes becomes visible when the user click the like-button...
- # [11:21] <icaaq> I'll look it up, thanks again :)
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- # [11:25] <@MarcoZ> icaaq: Interesting, I've never seen this gibberish in the vicinity of other "lik4" buttons etc., for example on my own blog http://www.marcozehe.de.
- # [11:33] <icaaq> MarcoZ: Yes, thats because your not using the like button, you are using a share link :)
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- # [12:27] <icaaq> MarcoZ: From the facebook SDK: The fb-root element must not be hidden using display: none or visibility: hidden, or some parts of the SDK will not work properly in IE.
- # [12:28] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com denied in-testsuite on bug 750853.
- # [12:28] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750853 nor, --, mozilla15, hub, NEW, mozilla/a11y/Role.h:817: error: comma at end of enumerator list
- # [12:33] <@MarcoZ> icaaq: Ugh how ugly! :( Hm, hope this will always be appended to the very end of a page so users can learn to ignore that mumbo-jumbo.
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- # [12:51] <icaaq> MarcoZ: I'm thinking of adding aria-hidden="true" to hide it for screenreaders that supports it
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- # [13:05] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted feedback for attachment 620298 on bug 748724.
- # [13:05] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748724 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, de-ns-ify nsRootAccessible
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- # [13:12] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750283 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, notify observers of a11y init / shutdown in nsAccessibilityService
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- # [13:17] <@surkov> MarcoZ: you're finally on linkedin :)
- # [13:17] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com cancelled feedback?(trev.saunders@gma il.com) for attachment 620564 on bug 750287.
- # [13:17] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750287 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, don't cache is form fill enabled pref
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- # [13:26] <@MarcoZ> icaaq: Is worthwhile trying! Firefox should do it right for screen readers that read our accessibility tree exclusively.
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- # [13:50] <icaaq> MarcoZ: added aria hidden to http://icaaq.com/sandbox/mozilla/SocialShare/large.html
- # [13:59] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted feedback for attachment 620468 on bug 750283.
- # [13:59] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750283 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, notify observers of a11y init / shutdown in nsAccessibilityService
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- # [14:26] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Do you remember off-hand whether we support aria-hidden already? I thought we did, but the example icaaq gave above does not work for me, I still see the content I don't want to see.
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- # [14:56] <@davidb> heyo
- # [14:57] <tbsaunde> mjorning
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- # [15:27] <@davidb> Valve seems pretty cool
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- # [15:32] <tbsaunde> davidb: vale?
- # [15:32] <@davidb> http://blog.mozilla.org/dmandelin/2012/05/02/the-moco-handbook-for-new-employees/
- # [15:32] <@davidb> tbsaunde: ^
- # [15:32] <tbsaunde> ah
- # [15:33] <@davidb> tbsaunde: would be great to get your feedback on https://intranet.mozilla.org/Accessibility/NewHire
- # [15:33] <@davidb> no rush
- # [15:35] <tbsaunde> ok, I might look since my other work is boring
- # [15:40] <tbsaunde> davidb: a lot of that looks like its copy pasta from something more generic?
- # [15:40] <tbsaunde> also, are we planning on getting more people soon?
- # [15:40] <@davidb> tbsaunde: it isn't copy and paste. this is the start of an actual generic cheat sheet for new platform hires.
- # [15:41] <@davidb> ignore that it is sitting under Accessibility for now
- # [15:41] <@davidb> so yes more people but not necessarily a11y :)
- # [15:41] <tbsaunde> ah
- # [15:42] <tbsaunde> seems sort of fine, though I thought there was one of those already? atleast I seem to remember something somewhere on the intranet
- # [15:42] <@davidb> there is an even more generic checklist for all employees
- # [15:42] <@davidb> was there anything for interns?
- # [15:44] <tbsaunde> I don't think there was anything specifically for interns
- # [15:44] <@davidb> OK
- # [15:44] <tbsaunde> though maybe the huge interns page had something? *shrug*
- # [15:44] <@davidb> basically i want this to be info that people usually learn over the first few months but things can fall through the cracks
- # [15:45] <@davidb> i/we
- # [15:45] <tbsaunde> fair
- # [15:45] <@davidb> is anything missing, or is anything too obvious?
- # [15:46] <tbsaunde> not that I noticed immediately
- # [15:46] <@davidb> good good
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- # [15:48] <@davidb> tbsaunde: if you want to hurt your brain https://github.com/graydon/rust/blob/master/src/rt/rust_shape.h#L847
- # [15:49] <@surkov> MarcoZ: we map it object attribute
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- # [16:00] <tbsaunde> davidb: I'm confused what's interesting about that class in particular?
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- # [16:01] <@davidb> tbsaunde: 3 nested instances of the a recurring template pattern
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- # [16:01] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750287 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, don't cache is form fill enabled pref
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- # [16:12] <tbsaunde> davidb: yeah, I guess that is a little odd
- # [16:13] <@davidb> i'd say it is a recipe for migraines later
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- # [16:13] <tbsaunde> but I didn't really understand what it was trying to do so it didn't really bug me that much
- # [16:13] <@davidb> yeah, my eyes glaze over fast on that bit of code
- # [16:13] <@davidb> meh
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- # [16:16] <tbsaunde> maybe its glazing over, but also I have no igh level idea wat this stuff is for
- # [16:17] <tbsaunde> and why htey need things class ptr, which as fair as I can tell be exactly the same as t*
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- # [16:17] <tbsaunde> accept it auto converts to uintptr which seems like an anti feature
- # [16:19] * @davidb cheers Mark_Capella on
- # [16:19] <@davidb> *\o/*
- # [16:19] <tbsaunde> also, arg there style anoys me
- # [16:20] <@davidb> style wars!
- # [16:20] <tbsaunde> heh, yup
- # [16:20] <@davidb> you know what i think is a fundamental problem… writing code is creative… and everyone has their own style… can you imagine painters being told how to paint?
- # [16:21] <@davidb> everything must be impressionist and use complementary colors!
- # [16:21] * tbsaunde notes he isn't really convinced unsafe languages are evil or fundimentally wrong
- # [16:23] <tbsaunde> especially when you require that proving safety doesn't involve solving the halting problem
- # [16:24] <@davidb> i think it comes down to practise
- # [16:24] <@davidb> pragmatics
- # [16:25] <tbsaunde> davidb: maybe to you, but not for the pl people around here I think
- # [16:25] <@davidb> i'm not sure i'm understanding
- # [16:27] <tbsaunde> I mean my impression of many people particularly the programing lanugages theory people is they believe unsafe languages are just inherantly evil
- # [16:33] <tbsaunde> anyway got to run
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- # [16:42] <@hub> the problem is what safeguards are in place so that programming error are detected as early as possible.
- # [16:43] <@davidb> sometimes we forget humans are doing the programming
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- # [16:55] <@hub> computers don't make mistake
- # [16:55] <@hub> humans do
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- # [17:45] <@MarcoZ> Hi all! Sorry, had a visitor (a web dev).
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- # [18:01] <tbsaunde|afk> hub: sure, that's a issue
- # [18:01] * tbsaunde|afk is now known as tbsaunde
- # [18:01] <tbsaunde> but outlawing a bunch of correct programs because you can't prove them correct is also bad
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- # [18:03] <tbsaunde> also if I say spend an extra n hours making code type check but only save n/2 hours of debugging the generated code what did I win?
- # [18:09] <@MarcoZ> tbsaunde, who are you talking to?
- # [18:13] <tbsaunde> MarcoZ: was responding to hub from a while ago
- # [18:13] <@hub> MarcoZ: it is a discussion that happened earlier :-) and I jumped in
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- # [18:22] <@MarcoZ> hub: tbsaunde: OK! :)
- # [18:27] <@hub> MarcoZ: if linkedin a11y is as good as their https implementation of the service, it is gonna be bad.
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- # [18:32] <@MarcoZ> hub: The web site is actually *quite* good!
- # [18:33] <@MarcoZ> hub: Lots of good HTML semantics. Their iPad app, 95% HTML5, seems to not speak for itself in that same good regard.
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- # [18:49] <@davidb> i wonder how linked in fares wrt collusion
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- # [19:07] <@MarcoZ> davidb: collusion?
- # [19:08] <@davidb> http://www.ted.com/talks/gary_kovacs_tracking_the_trackers.html
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- # [19:29] <@MarcoZ> davidb: I don't suppose Collusion is made in a way that I could read out this data.
- # [19:30] <@davidb> MarcoZ: it is a visualization
- # [19:30] <@davidb> a network of nodes
- # [19:30] <@davidb> nodes = sites
- # [19:30] * @MarcoZ nods.
- # [19:30] <@davidb> connections = connections
- # [19:31] <@davidb> hub: webm needs to be easier
- # [19:32] * @davidb goes to the water cooler
- # [19:32] <@hub> davidb: it is not like TED has no resources. they HIRE professional photographers to cover their events
- # [19:33] * @eeejay installs collusion
- # [19:33] <@eeejay> i have ghostery, so hopefully that would make the red dots appear less
- # [19:36] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 751623 filed by scoobidiver@netcourrier.com.
- # [19:36] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751623 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in nsRootAccessible::Name
- # [19:38] <@davidb> hub: someone needs to fund tooling
- # [19:38] <@davidb> if that's ted, fine :)
- # [19:38] <@eeejay> wow, ghostery really doesn't let stuff get past it
- # [19:42] <@hub> MarcoZ: btw my patch do make things better, just that effectively it does not update. I thought about it after requesting the review.
- # [19:42] <@hub> MarcoZ: I'll fix it
- # [19:51] <@MarcoZ> Hub: Looking forward to it and will try it when it shows up, or tomorrow morning. ;)
- # [19:52] <@MarcoZ> Bug 751623 looks like a simple null check.
- # [19:52] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751623 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in nsRootAccessible::Name
- # [19:52] <@MarcoZ> Which NS_ENSURE_ thing is to be used for an nsCOMPTR?
- # [19:53] <khuey> to ensure what?
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- # [20:01] <@davidb> i prefer explicit null checks to the macros
- # [20:01] <@MarcoZ> khuey: That an Do_QueryInterface succeeded and the nsComPtr variable is not null.
- # [20:02] <khuey> MarcoZ: NS_ENSURE_TRUE(comptr, retval)
- # [20:03] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 620775 on bug 751623.
- # [20:03] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com changed the Status on bug 751623 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
- # [20:03] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751623 cri, --, ---, marco.zehe, ASSI, crash in nsRootAccessible::Name
- # [20:03] <@MarcoZ> khuey: davidb: Like this.
- # [20:04] <@davidb> ah i see
- # [20:05] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Yeah I suspect when Orca or whoever asks the root accessible for the name, and the document isn't there yet, this crash could happen.
- # [20:09] * @MarcoZ suspects davidb and khuey fell unconscious. ;)
- # [20:09] <@davidb> MarcoZ: looks fine… but if I was reviewing I'd take a closer look
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- # [20:12] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Yeah I asked tbsaunde since he reviewed the original bug, too.
- # [20:12] <@davidb> sure
- # [20:12] <@MarcoZ> And if someone decides they have a better solution, that's fine with me. :)
- # [20:13] <@MarcoZ> OK, going off for the evening. See you tomorrow!
- # [20:13] <@davidb> next time please fix the bug faster LOL
- # [20:13] <@davidb> ok ciao!
- # [20:13] <@MarcoZ> :D
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- # [20:55] <@hub> mochitest still not green here
- # [20:56] <@hub> locally
- # [20:56] <@hub> on Mac
- # [21:09] <Mark_Capella> hmm ... bug fell out of GetName()?
- # [21:11] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 751665 filed by hub@mozilla.com.
- # [21:11] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751665 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [Mac] TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | chrome://mochitests/content/a11y/accessible/events/test_focus_menu.xul
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- # [21:59] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751623 cri, --, ---, marco.zehe, ASSI, crash in nsRootAccessible::Name
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- # [23:06] <@hub> what is the event fired when the native state changes? or when the INVISIBLE state changes to be accurate
- # [23:06] <@hub> I mean state, not native state
- # [23:07] <@eeejay> hub, EVENT_STATE_CHANGED
- # [23:07] <@hub> ok, just making sure
- # [23:08] <@eeejay> hub, oh. there are hide events to
- # [23:08] <@eeejay> too
- # [23:08] <@hub> I saw these too
- # [23:08] <tbsaunde> hub: in C++ you want AccStateChangeEvent / AccMutatioEvent
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- # [23:57] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested feedback from trev.saunders@gma il.com for attachment 620860 on bug 750216.
- # [23:57] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750216 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, don't export headers that aren't used outside
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