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  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
  3. # [00:00] <@tbsaunde> hub: shouldn't it have state selected?
  4. # [00:00] <@tbsaunde> also you could probably ask the focus manager if focus is within it
  5. # [00:01] <@hub> nah that's the container I'm talking about
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  7. # [00:01] <@tbsaunde> hub: I'm not sure I follow
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  10. # [00:55] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested feedback from surkov.alexander@ gmail.com for attachment 622534 on bug 750612.
  11. # [00:55] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750612 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [Mac] Too much is exposed to VoiceOver that is actually not currently visible/interactable
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  13. # [01:28] <@eeejay> tbsaunde, you around?
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  15. # [01:34] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Status on bug 753095 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  16. # [01:34] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org set the Resolution field on bug 753095 to DUPLICATE of bug 753093.
  17. # [01:34] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753093 cri, --, ---, eitan, ASSI, crash in nsAccUtils::HasDefinedARIAToken
  18. # [01:34] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753095 cri, --, mozilla15, eitan, RESO DUPLICATE, crash in mozilla::a11y::HTMLTextFieldAccessible::NativeRole
  19. # [01:48] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 753601 filed by eitan@monotonous.org.
  20. # [01:48] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753601 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Handle modal dialogs
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  26. # [02:29] <@firebot> adw@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 712924 from RESOLVED to REOPENED.
  27. # [02:29] <@firebot> adw@mozilla.com cleared the Resolution 'FIXED' from bug 712924.
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  29. # [02:29] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712924 nor, P2, mozilla14, hub, REOP, [Mac] li elements inside an ul element are announced as "list box"
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  37. # [03:47] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested feedback from adw@mozilla.com for attachment 622597 on bug 712924.
  38. # [03:47] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712924 nor, P2, mozilla14, hub, REOP, [Mac] li elements inside an ul element are announced as "list box"
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  61. # [04:57] <@firebot> adw@mozilla.com granted feedback for attachment 622597 on bug 712924.
  62. # [04:57] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712924 nor, P2, mozilla14, hub, REOP, [Mac] li elements inside an ul element are announced as "list box"
  63. # [05:04] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 622597 on bug 712924.
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  66. # [05:18] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 622613 on bug 753093.
  67. # [05:18] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753093 cri, --, ---, eitan, ASSI, crash in nsAccUtils::HasDefinedARIAToken
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  97. # [08:25] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 622613 on bug 753093.
  98. # [08:25] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753093 cri, --, ---, eitan, ASSI, crash in nsAccUtils::HasDefinedARIAToken
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  101. # [09:08] <@surkov> Mark_Capella: hi, so do you have l3 access now?
  102. # [09:09] <Mark_Capella> surkov: yes i think so - i havent read the bugzilla but i saw it go past me
  103. # [09:09] <@surkov> Mark_Capella: should I land your patches or do you want to that yourself?
  104. # [09:09] <Mark_Capella> surkov: can you land the ones we have in process ... and ill start with the next "new" one?
  105. # [09:10] <@surkov> Mark_Capella: sure
  106. # [09:10] <Mark_Capella> surkov: thanks - keeps it straight in my mind ...
  107. # [09:10] <Mark_Capella> im in the middle of another bug and im distracted :)
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  109. # [09:24] <Mark_Capella> surkov: those questions are exactly what took me so long to figure out ... TextSetSelection and RemoveSelection
  110. # [09:24] <Mark_Capella> use an index from the start of the document, not the start of the element
  111. # [09:24] <@surkov> oh
  112. # [09:24] <Mark_Capella> weird !
  113. # [09:24] <@surkov> interesting
  114. # [09:25] <@surkov> I think that's a bug (i'll file it)
  115. # [09:25] <Mark_Capella> laughs ... i was hoping you'd look at it and go well of course !
  116. # [09:25] <Mark_Capella> asif theres a reason for it
  117. # [09:41] <Mark_Capella> hmmmm .... no L3 yet, waiting on server-ops for an scm_level3 powerup
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  120. # [10:02] <fer> oh, mochitests of selections :)
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  129. # [11:12] <capella> (changed nick for consistency)
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  141. # [13:02] <capella> surkov: wrong indent? i think this was the example i used
  142. # [13:02] <capella> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/uriloader/exthandler/os2/nsOSHelperAppService.cpp#1340
  143. # [13:03] <@surkov> capella: you're right, I was confused by " and g, they look as they were on different offsets
  144. # [13:03] <capella> Cool :) less work for us both now
  145. # [13:04] <@surkov> yep :)
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  148. # [13:12] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 622597 on bug 712924.
  149. # [13:12] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712924 nor, P2, mozilla14, hub, REOP, [Mac] li elements inside an ul element are announced as "list box"
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  151. # [13:18] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com denied feedback for attachment 622534 on bug 750612.
  152. # [13:18] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750612 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [Mac] Too much is exposed to VoiceOver that is actually not currently visible/interactable
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  156. # [13:33] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested feedback from eitan@monotonous. org for attachment 622682 on bug 748719.
  157. # [13:33] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748719 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, put ApplicationAccessible class into mozilla::a11y namespace
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  159. # [13:42] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted feedback for attachment 622133 on bug 747227.
  160. # [13:42] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=747227 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, decomtaminate GetCellIndexAt() on accessible tables
  161. # [14:00] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted feedback for attachment 621233 on bug 750301.
  162. # [14:00] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750301 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, add static asserts internal and xpcom accessible roles are the same
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  172. # [15:04] <@davidb> hola
  173. # [15:07] <capella> good morning Davidb
  174. # [15:07] <@davidb> capella: i like the new nick
  175. # [15:07] <capella> yah shorter .... matches my bugzilla :capella thing
  176. # [15:08] <@davidb> good good
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  184. # [15:16] <@MarcoZ> Hey davidb, capella, et al!
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  186. # [15:20] <capella> marcoz: morning!
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  191. # [15:49] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 750295 from --- to mozilla15.
  192. # [15:49] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750295 nor, --, mozilla15, markcapella, ASSI, don't cache gStringBundle in nsAccessNode
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  196. # [15:53] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 621924 on bug 750216.
  197. # [15:53] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750216 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, don't export headers that aren't used outside
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  199. # [15:54] <@davidb> surkov: ping
  200. # [15:54] <@surkov> davidb: pong
  201. # [15:54] <@davidb> i'll pm
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  212. # [16:25] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 614585 from --- to mozilla15.
  213. # [16:25] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=614585 nor, --, mozilla15, markcapella, ASSI, mochitest test selection functions for nsIAccessibleText
  214. # [16:31] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 753771 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  215. # [16:31] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753771 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, nsIAccessibleText selection change methods should ignore selections out of range of the text accessi
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  219. # [16:45] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 753253 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  220. # [16:45] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 753253 to FIXED.
  221. # [16:45] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753253 cri, --, mozilla15, marco.zehe, RESO FIXED, crash in nsAccessible::ScrollTo
  222. # [16:45] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 747227 from --- to mozilla15.
  223. # [16:45] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=747227 nor, --, mozilla15, maxli, NEW, decomtaminate GetCellIndexAt() on accessible tables
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  237. # [17:50] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: Wow, what a statement that user made! This feels good, doesn't it?
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  241. # [18:00] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 620169 on bug 746084.
  242. # [18:00] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 622742 on bug 746084.
  243. # [18:00] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746084 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, provide extended logging for a11y module
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  247. # [18:29] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested feedback from trev.saunders@gma il.com for attachment 622756 on bug 745429.
  248. # [18:29] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com changed the Status on bug 745429 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  249. # [18:29] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745429 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, don't use QueryInterface() in CAccessibleImage
  250. # [18:37] <@MarcoZ> Hm, the "Download and install" to update nightlies doesn't activate on Fennec.
  251. # [18:43] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, yes, it feels good :)
  252. # [18:43] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, I have trouble with the updates too
  253. # [18:44] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, you could also try to explicitly do it by going to settings, about fennec
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  256. # [19:06] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: That's what I did. I just had to learn about system alerts. The update prompt is a system alert that I need to access by swiping down on the touch screen from the top. I can then navigate to the Nightly update alert and start the download and install.
  257. # [19:07] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, android a11y fail
  258. # [19:07] <@MarcoZ> Nope, I just had to learn how to activate those alerts.
  259. # [19:08] * khuey is now known as khuey|away
  260. # [19:08] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: Once I knew how to use that thing, I could navigate it via the directional controller.
  261. # [19:09] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, cool
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  263. # [19:16] * @MarcoZ just updated the update instructions on his blog post to include that info.
  264. # [19:16] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: Filed a bug against the native UI. The tabs button is missing alternative text.
  265. # [19:17] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, *mid air collusion*!! so did i
  266. # [19:17] <@MarcoZ> LOL!
  267. # [19:17] <@eeejay> which one do we dup? :)
  268. # [19:18] <@eeejay> i'll close mine since you give nice reproduction steps
  269. # [19:18] <@MarcoZ> Which one is yours? Mine is bug 753859.
  270. # [19:18] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753859 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Button to open tabs has no proper accessibility label, TalkBack uust says "Image button"
  271. # [19:19] <@eeejay> mine is bug 753858. i closed it
  272. # [19:19] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753858 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Tabs button in toolbar does not have a label
  273. # [19:19] <@MarcoZ> LOL, almost identical numbers! xD
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  275. # [19:20] <@eeejay> yep :)
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  279. # [19:39] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, if you feel like drinking from a fire hose, you could join the eyes free google group
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  281. # [19:43] <@davidb> I'm impressed with Windows Speech Recognition
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  289. # [19:44] * Topic is '"build the web for everyone" | release schedule: http://mzl.la/LNc0W | accessibility list https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/accessibility'
  290. # [19:44] * Set by hub on Tue Apr 17 00:34:03
  291. # [19:44] <@davidb> I think the intern is wondering why I am talking to my windows machine
  292. # [19:46] <@davidb> capella: *drum roll*
  293. # [19:46] <@davidb> capella: LEVEL 3!
  294. # [19:46] <@davidb> congrats
  295. # [19:46] <capella> yeee ha! B)
  296. # [19:47] <capella> now im dangerous
  297. # [19:47] <@davidb> heh
  298. # [19:47] <@davidb> with this power comes great responsibility
  299. # [19:47] <capella> i understand ....
  300. # [19:48] <@davidb> capella: BTW https://wiki.mozilla.org/IRC#Register_your_nickname
  301. # [19:48] <capella> hey ! new big bang theory on tonight
  302. # [19:48] <@davidb> that show reminds me to much of my friends
  303. # [19:48] <@davidb> too
  304. # [19:49] <@hub> capella: aoin
  305. # [19:49] <@hub> ain't got no TV
  306. # [19:50] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
  307. # [19:51] <capella> for register nick ... do i need another password or re-use an existing one from ... mozilla?
  308. # [19:54] <capella> got it ... nickname now registered :)
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  310. # [19:59] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 712924 from REOPENED to ASSIGNED.
  311. # [19:59] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712924 nor, P2, mozilla14, hub, ASSI, [Mac] li elements inside an ul element are announced as "list box"
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  313. # [20:10] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested feedback from hub@mozilla.com for attachment 622682 on bug 748719.
  314. # [20:10] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748719 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, put ApplicationAccessible class into mozilla::a11y namespace
  315. # [20:16] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com granted feedback for attachment 622682 on bug 748719.
  316. # [20:16] <@eeejay> hub, sorry for throwing that on you
  317. # [20:17] <@eeejay> it looks good, afaik
  318. # [20:32] <@hub> I believe it is a glitch in tbpl
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  322. # [20:40] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: Nah, I think I'll only skim that google group from time to time. ;)
  323. # [20:40] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: BTW does Nightly update to the 10th of May build for you? I'm stuck on the May 9 build.
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  325. # [20:40] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, you could sign up and have it not send you email
  326. # [20:40] <@davidb> i get the digest which i ignore
  327. # [20:40] * @eeejay tries
  328. # [20:41] <@eeejay> it is more of a chat channel than ml. people write one word mails
  329. # [20:42] <@MarcoZ> Ugh
  330. # [20:50] * capella|lunch is now known as capella
  331. # [20:51] <@davidb> ok i need to relocate
  332. # [20:51] <@davidb> back in an hour
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  334. # [20:53] <@eeejay> i'm filtering out all mails that don't have the word "firefox" in them
  335. # [20:59] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: A smart decision!
  336. # [20:59] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: Ouch, nightly download attempts give a 404 error at the moment for nightly.mozilla.org, "Android" link. Seems something is broken.
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  338. # [21:04] <@MarcoZ> Ah, directory structure changed.
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  341. # [21:04] <@MarcoZ> The en-US build now lives in an en-US/ folder under the latest-mozilla-central-android folder.
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  346. # [21:37] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 622849 on bug 753093.
  347. # [21:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753093 cri, --, ---, eitan, ASSI, crash in nsAccUtils::HasDefinedARIAToken
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  350. # [21:44] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 753973 filed by eitan@monotonous.org.
  351. # [21:44] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753973 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Make verbosity level configurable
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  353. # [21:52] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com changed the Status on bug 751497 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  354. # [21:52] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751497 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, replace nsHTMLSelectOptionAccessible::GetSelectState by nice inline
  355. # [22:04] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 753984 filed by eitan@monotonous.org.
  356. # [22:04] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753984 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Make utterance order configurable
  357. # [22:08] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 753986 filed by eitan@monotonous.org.
  358. # [22:08] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753986 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Read virtual cursor position's subtree
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  369. # [23:14] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested feedback from hub@mozilla.com for attachment 622909 on bug 751497.
  370. # [23:14] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751497 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, replace nsHTMLSelectOptionAccessible::GetSelectState by nice inline
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  373. # [23:30] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested review from dbolter@mozilla.com for attachment 622917 on bug 752127.
  374. # [23:30] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=752127 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Abolish anonymous functions
  375. # [23:32] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Status on bug 752127 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  376. # [23:43] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com granted feedback for attachment 622909 on bug 751497.
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  378. # [23:43] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751497 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, replace nsHTMLSelectOptionAccessible::GetSelectState by nice inline
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