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  24. # [04:31] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested review from dbolter@mozilla.com for attachment 623909 on bug 753076.
  25. # [04:31] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753076 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Make directional controller interoperate with text entries.
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  31. # [05:06] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 623821 on bug 755048.
  32. # [05:06] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=755048 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Fix build warnings under accessibility/
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  53. # [09:04] <@surkov> tbsaunde|afk: hi
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  77. # [14:54] <@askalski> hi, anyone here?
  78. # [14:55] <capella> waves
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  89. # [15:20] <@davidb> heyo
  90. # [15:23] <MarcoZ> Hi davidb, askalski!
  91. # [15:24] <@askalski> hi MarcoZ, hi davidb
  92. # [15:24] <@askalski> davidb, MATS runs on Win7, no modifications :D
  93. # [15:24] <@askalski> davidb, and, another good news, seems like MozBase itself uses same dependencies, so the deployment problem should be None :D
  94. # [15:24] <@davidb> askalski: excellent
  95. # [15:25] * MarcoZ learned new things about Android accessibility today that he'd rather have avoided. But since we can be better than all those other apps (no editing capabilities), I'm also happy.
  96. # [15:25] <@davidb> oh yeah i need to review
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  107. # [15:50] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com granted review for attachment 623909 on bug 753076.
  108. # [15:50] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753076 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Make directional controller interoperate with text entries.
  109. # [15:52] <@davidb> askalski, eeejay, tbsaunde|afk, MarcoZ let's meet this week
  110. # [15:53] <@davidb> MarcoZ: I think checking in on goals is useful.
  111. # [15:54] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 752127 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  112. # [15:54] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 752127 to FIXED.
  113. # [15:54] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=752127 nor, --, mozilla15, eitan, RESO FIXED, [AccessFu] Abolish anonymous functions
  114. # [15:54] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 753093 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  115. # [15:54] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 753093 to FIXED.
  116. # [15:54] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753093 cri, --, mozilla15, eitan, RESO FIXED, crash in nsAccUtils::HasDefinedARIAToken
  117. # [16:04] <MarcoZ> davidb: OK!
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  124. # [16:43] <@tbsaunde|afk> Infinity: resolve your test issues? sorry I've been busy and forgot to ask
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  126. # [16:46] <Infinity> tbsaunde|afk: No problem
  127. # [16:46] <Infinity> but no
  128. # [16:46] <Infinity> That's why I cam over now...thought someone could help out
  129. # [16:47] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: so, you rebuilt on top of latest trunk right?
  130. # [16:47] <Infinity> Yeah...
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  132. # [16:47] <Infinity> the thing is the initial tests worked fine this time and it didn't crash
  133. # [16:48] <Infinity> but there were quite a few failed tests including that which I had changed :)
  134. # [16:48] <Infinity> I meant :(
  135. # [16:48] <Infinity> tbsaunde: You want me to pastebin the failed tests?
  136. # [16:51] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: sure
  137. # [16:51] <Infinity> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1635833
  138. # [16:52] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: a log would be more useful than a list of tests that fail ...
  139. # [16:53] <Infinity> how do I access the log for the previous tests tbsaunde?
  140. # [16:53] <Infinity> Should I rerun the tests and post it?
  141. # [16:55] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: maybe objdir/mochitest-a11y.log otherwise yeah rerun
  142. # [16:56] <Infinity> tbsaunde: will check a let you know
  143. # [16:56] <Infinity> bbiab
  144. # [16:57] <@firebot> oussamabadr@gmail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 624036 on bug 754230.
  145. # [16:57] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754230 nor, --, ---, oussamabadr, NEW, IA2::get_states should expose STATE_DEFUNCT if accessible is defunct
  146. # [16:58] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: ok, you might also see what happens with out your patch
  147. # [16:58] <Infinity> tbsaunde: makes sense...
  148. # [16:58] <Infinity> yeah...will do that too...
  149. # [16:59] <Infinity> but that might take a while then :(
  150. # [16:59] <Infinity> is it enough to build only accessibility again?
  151. # [17:02] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: you only touch a test right?
  152. # [17:02] <Infinity> tbsaunde: touch a test?
  153. # [17:04] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: what does your patch change?
  154. # [17:04] <Infinity> It changes only one test
  155. # [17:05] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: then yes, make in objdir/accessible/ should be enough
  156. # [17:05] <Infinity> test_img.html
  157. # [17:06] <Infinity> tbsaunde: ok...will let you know once I have rebuilt and tested :)
  158. # [17:08] <capella> infinity: gotta brb ... you didnt tell tbsaunde of your other telemetry changes mixed in with your a11y patch
  159. # [17:08] <capella> you need to get MQ running
  160. # [17:08] <capella> c ya inna bit
  161. # [17:08] <Infinity> I'll change remove those changes first capella tbsaunde
  162. # [17:09] <Infinity> Then remove my changes to test_img.html and check if test still fails
  163. # [17:09] <Infinity> btw tbsaunde would my telemetry changes in the network part affect the mochitests?
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  165. # [17:11] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: I wouldn't expect so, but anything is possible
  166. # [17:13] <Infinity> Even I feel the same...but yeah let's see :/
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  191. # [19:15] <@eeejay> davidb,
  192. # [19:15] <@eeejay> yo
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  196. # [19:32] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: Hi! Does the native Android UI really not support text editing? It's hard to believe. Or did I misread your comment?
  197. # [19:33] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, you did not misread it!
  198. # [19:33] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, try out other native apps and prove me wrong
  199. # [19:33] <@MarcoZ> OK, another fact I wish I'd never learned about Android. Man, how can they seriously expect anybody to use this productively?
  200. # [19:33] <@tbsaunde|afk> nobody ever needs more than back it out :p
  201. # [19:33] * @MarcoZ shakes his head.
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  203. # [19:34] <@MarcoZ> tbsaunde: You mean as long as somebody has a functioning backspace key, they're good?
  204. # [19:34] * @MarcoZ can't count the times he's effectively used the editing capabilities of iOS.
  205. # [19:34] <@tbsaunde> MarcoZ: yes, (obviously I'm joking)
  206. # [19:35] <@tbsaunde> nobody will ever need more than 640k &c
  207. # [19:36] <@tbsaunde> but really I use my phone rarely enough that it isn't a huge anoynce for me, though I can see it being really bad for other people
  208. # [19:39] <@MarcoZ> tbsaunde: Yes, the way I use a smart phone really means I'd suffer from this lack almost every other day.
  209. # [19:39] * @MarcoZ is really looking forward to eeejay's implementation.
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  211. # [19:41] <@eeejay> MarcoZ. tbh it is a bit of a relief not to have to work on that this cycle
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  214. # [19:52] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Target Milestone on bug 753076 from --- to mozilla15.
  215. # [19:52] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753076 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Make directional controller interoperate with text entries.
  216. # [19:55] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: But with this bug, part of it is already there, so yeah there's something to look forward to! :)
  217. # [19:56] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, i think in the next version after ff 15, we will simply send "text changed" events with useful feedback in editing for pre-ICS devices
  218. # [19:56] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, so we would send "foo selected" instead of a select event with the range of foo
  219. # [19:58] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 755387 filed by eitan@monotonous.org.
  220. # [19:58] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=755387 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Support rtl text input caret movement
  221. # [20:01] <Infinity> tbsaunde: the test still fails
  222. # [20:01] <Infinity> I have removed all the changes and rebuilt it
  223. # [20:01] <Infinity> is it some kind of bug?....
  224. # [20:03] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: maybe? I'm kind of confused
  225. # [20:03] <@tbsaunde> what is the last commit you have?
  226. # [20:04] <Infinity> One second.....
  227. # [20:04] <Infinity> tbsaunde: Bug 740750
  228. # [20:05] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=740750 nor, --, mozilla15, junky.argonaut, RESO FIXED, Use nsITreeView* instead of nsCOMPtr<nsITreeView> as followup to bug#739524
  229. # [20:05] <Infinity> That passed all tests :?
  230. # [20:05] <Infinity> :/
  231. # [20:05] <@davidb> eeejay: pong
  232. # [20:05] <@eeejay> davidb, nm
  233. # [20:05] <@davidb> ok
  234. # [20:06] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: probably? but that's really old
  235. # [20:06] <@tbsaunde> you should update
  236. # [20:06] <Infinity> I updated and built it
  237. # [20:06] <Infinity> like surkov suggested last time
  238. # [20:06] <Infinity> Are there no bugs witht he recent updates?
  239. # [20:07] <Infinity> chrome://mochitests/content/a11y/accessible/events/test_scroll.xul
  240. # [20:07] <Infinity> tbsaunde: it keeps getting stuck at that test
  241. # [20:08] <@tbsaunde> well, the commit you mention is pretty old
  242. # [20:08] <@tbsaunde> that might be a test that is known flakey
  243. # [20:08] <@tbsaunde> I'd suggest just running the one test you touch with TEST_PATH=accessible/foo/test_something.html make mochitest-a11y
  244. # [20:09] <Infinity> you mean running the one test I am making a change to?
  245. # [20:10] <Infinity> tbsaunde: what do I do about the failed mochitests then :(
  246. # [20:10] <Infinity> it isn't supposed to fail right?
  247. # [20:11] <@tbsaunde> yes
  248. # [20:11] <@tbsaunde> I'd assume they're a timeing issue specific to your machine
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  250. # [20:12] <Infinity> Ok...I suppose its that
  251. # [20:12] <Infinity> it gets stuck and then after like 10mins the other tests run
  252. # [20:12] <Infinity> weird isn't it?
  253. # [20:12] <NeilAway> do we expose <menuitem type="radio"> in any special way?
  254. # [20:13] <NeilAway> (compared to a regular menuitem, that is)
  255. # [20:13] <NeilAway> (note: not compared to <menuitem type="radio" checked="true"> either)
  256. # [20:13] <Infinity> tbsaunde: Do all the tests pass on your pc?
  257. # [20:13] <capella> infinity: after you pulled your telemetry changes, did you re-build all or just the a11y portion?
  258. # [20:14] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: haven't run them locally in a while
  259. # [20:14] <Infinity> all of them capella
  260. # [20:14] <Infinity> just to be safe..I rebuilt the whole stuff each time I made any change
  261. # [20:14] <@tbsaunde> NeilAway: I'd expect the role differs
  262. # [20:14] <Infinity> Took very little time to rebuild though...
  263. # [20:14] <Infinity> that's ok I hope...
  264. # [20:15] <Infinity> tbsaunde: where do you run the tests?
  265. # [20:15] <capella> infinity: if you do a HG DIFF you only see one line change you made for this patch right? nothing else?
  266. # [20:15] <@tbsaunde> NeilAway: in particular RADIO_MENU_ITEM vs MENU_ITEM
  267. # [20:15] <Infinity> I even removed that and tried capella....but the test failed
  268. # [20:15] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: try mostly
  269. # [20:15] <Infinity> that's why I asked ! :(
  270. # [20:15] <Infinity> tbsaunde: how do I run it on the tryserver?
  271. # [20:16] <Infinity> I have l1 access now :)
  272. # [20:16] * @MarcoZ is off for the evening. See you tomorrow!
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  274. # [20:17] <capella> infinity: HG DIFF shows .no changes< then?
  275. # [20:17] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: just push to try with your hcange in a commit?
  276. # [20:17] <Infinity> capella: now ne changes at all
  277. # [20:18] <Infinity> should'nt the mochitests work fine now?
  278. # [20:18] <capella> odd - yes they should - when last time you did a hg pull -u
  279. # [20:18] <capella> ?
  280. # [20:18] <Infinity> tbsaunde: A link to how I could do that would be helpful!
  281. # [20:18] <Infinity> Three days back...when surkov suggested
  282. # [20:18] <Infinity> last time I talked to you
  283. # [20:19] <capella> infinity: btw if hg diff shows nothing as you say, then theres nothing to push to try
  284. # [20:19] <Infinity> no...I will make the change and push it to try!
  285. # [20:19] <Infinity> Check if it works fine there :/
  286. # [20:20] <Infinity> capella tbsaunde: Any links to how I could do that?!
  287. # [20:20] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: make change, commit or make mqueue patch, and hg push -f https://<your user name>@hg.mozilla.org/try
  288. # [20:20] <capella> hes not using MQ yet
  289. # [20:20] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: there is a wiki page on wiki.mo
  290. # [20:22] <Infinity> tbsaunde: Yeah...I am not using MQ yet!
  291. # [20:22] <Infinity> Will get it this weekend :/
  292. # [20:23] <drexler> Infinity: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mercurial_Queues
  293. # [20:23] <Infinity> Thanks tbsaunde...will check it out :)
  294. # [20:23] <drexler> Infinity: https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryServer
  295. # [20:23] <Infinity> thanks drexler...I suppose its about time I get MQ
  296. # [20:23] <Infinity> :D
  297. # [20:24] <drexler> Infinity: yw :)
  298. # [20:24] <capella> woo hoo! score one for the debugger :)
  299. # [20:25] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: hmm, ok
  300. # [20:26] <@tbsaunde> NeilAway: what's up?
  301. # [20:26] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: just reviewing a patch that changes the Go menu in SeaMonkey
  302. # [20:26] <@tbsaunde> ah
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  305. # [20:33] <NeilAway> yeah, its role changes and it becomes checkable, at least
  306. # [20:33] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: but I don't think that's a big enough loss in this case
  307. # [20:34] * NeilAway would think differently if it exposed the group in a useful way perhaps
  308. # [20:35] <@tbsaunde> I'm not familiar with the seaMonkey ui
  309. # [20:38] <Infinity> tbsaunde capella: Gotta go now
  310. # [20:39] <Infinity> I guess I'll attach the patch to the bug and indicate the failed tests asking surkov for feedback!
  311. # [20:39] <Infinity> is that ok?
  312. # [20:39] <Infinity> in the mean time I guess I'll try using the tryserver :/
  313. # [20:40] <capella> infinity: you can run one test just by scrolling down and clicking the link on the chrome mochitest window
  314. # [20:40] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: sure
  315. # [20:41] <Infinity> ok..thanks for the help guys
  316. # [20:41] <Infinity> :)
  317. # [20:41] <capella> infinity: is cool ... just keep me on this tab - you'll get tbsaunde and i confused trying to help you @ the same time
  318. # [20:42] <Infinity> capella: sure :)
  319. # [20:43] <Infinity> tbsaunde: catchya later...hopefully with good results :D
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  327. # [21:31] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested feedback from trev.saunders@gma il.com for attachment 624143 on bug 747219.
  328. # [21:31] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=747219 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, decomtaminate GetCellAt() on accessible tables
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  336. # [22:14] <@firebot> junky.argonaut@gmail.com requested feedback from surkov.alexander@ gmail.com for attachment 624159 on bug 741474.
  337. # [22:14] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741474 nor, --, ---, junky.argonaut, ASSI, Intermittent TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | chrome://mochitests/content/a11y/accessible/tree/test_img.html |
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