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- # Session Start: Tue May 15 00:00:00 2012
- # Session Ident: #accessibility
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- # [04:31] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested review from dbolter@mozilla.com for attachment 623909 on bug 753076.
- # [04:31] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753076 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Make directional controller interoperate with text entries.
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- # [05:06] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 623821 on bug 755048.
- # [05:06] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=755048 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Fix build warnings under accessibility/
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- # [09:04] <@surkov> tbsaunde|afk: hi
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- # [14:54] <@askalski> hi, anyone here?
- # [14:55] <capella> waves
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- # [15:20] <@davidb> heyo
- # [15:23] <MarcoZ> Hi davidb, askalski!
- # [15:24] <@askalski> hi MarcoZ, hi davidb
- # [15:24] <@askalski> davidb, MATS runs on Win7, no modifications :D
- # [15:24] <@askalski> davidb, and, another good news, seems like MozBase itself uses same dependencies, so the deployment problem should be None :D
- # [15:24] <@davidb> askalski: excellent
- # [15:25] * MarcoZ learned new things about Android accessibility today that he'd rather have avoided. But since we can be better than all those other apps (no editing capabilities), I'm also happy.
- # [15:25] <@davidb> oh yeah i need to review
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- # [15:50] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com granted review for attachment 623909 on bug 753076.
- # [15:50] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753076 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Make directional controller interoperate with text entries.
- # [15:52] <@davidb> askalski, eeejay, tbsaunde|afk, MarcoZ let's meet this week
- # [15:53] <@davidb> MarcoZ: I think checking in on goals is useful.
- # [15:54] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 752127 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
- # [15:54] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 752127 to FIXED.
- # [15:54] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=752127 nor, --, mozilla15, eitan, RESO FIXED, [AccessFu] Abolish anonymous functions
- # [15:54] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 753093 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
- # [15:54] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 753093 to FIXED.
- # [15:54] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753093 cri, --, mozilla15, eitan, RESO FIXED, crash in nsAccUtils::HasDefinedARIAToken
- # [16:04] <MarcoZ> davidb: OK!
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- # [16:43] <@tbsaunde|afk> Infinity: resolve your test issues? sorry I've been busy and forgot to ask
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- # [16:46] <Infinity> tbsaunde|afk: No problem
- # [16:46] <Infinity> but no
- # [16:46] <Infinity> That's why I cam over now...thought someone could help out
- # [16:47] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: so, you rebuilt on top of latest trunk right?
- # [16:47] <Infinity> Yeah...
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- # [16:47] <Infinity> the thing is the initial tests worked fine this time and it didn't crash
- # [16:48] <Infinity> but there were quite a few failed tests including that which I had changed :)
- # [16:48] <Infinity> I meant :(
- # [16:48] <Infinity> tbsaunde: You want me to pastebin the failed tests?
- # [16:51] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: sure
- # [16:51] <Infinity> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1635833
- # [16:52] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: a log would be more useful than a list of tests that fail ...
- # [16:53] <Infinity> how do I access the log for the previous tests tbsaunde?
- # [16:53] <Infinity> Should I rerun the tests and post it?
- # [16:55] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: maybe objdir/mochitest-a11y.log otherwise yeah rerun
- # [16:56] <Infinity> tbsaunde: will check a let you know
- # [16:56] <Infinity> bbiab
- # [16:57] <@firebot> oussamabadr@gmail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 624036 on bug 754230.
- # [16:57] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754230 nor, --, ---, oussamabadr, NEW, IA2::get_states should expose STATE_DEFUNCT if accessible is defunct
- # [16:58] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: ok, you might also see what happens with out your patch
- # [16:58] <Infinity> tbsaunde: makes sense...
- # [16:58] <Infinity> yeah...will do that too...
- # [16:59] <Infinity> but that might take a while then :(
- # [16:59] <Infinity> is it enough to build only accessibility again?
- # [17:02] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: you only touch a test right?
- # [17:02] <Infinity> tbsaunde: touch a test?
- # [17:04] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: what does your patch change?
- # [17:04] <Infinity> It changes only one test
- # [17:05] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: then yes, make in objdir/accessible/ should be enough
- # [17:05] <Infinity> test_img.html
- # [17:06] <Infinity> tbsaunde: ok...will let you know once I have rebuilt and tested :)
- # [17:08] <capella> infinity: gotta brb ... you didnt tell tbsaunde of your other telemetry changes mixed in with your a11y patch
- # [17:08] <capella> you need to get MQ running
- # [17:08] <capella> c ya inna bit
- # [17:08] <Infinity> I'll change remove those changes first capella tbsaunde
- # [17:09] <Infinity> Then remove my changes to test_img.html and check if test still fails
- # [17:09] <Infinity> btw tbsaunde would my telemetry changes in the network part affect the mochitests?
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- # [17:11] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: I wouldn't expect so, but anything is possible
- # [17:13] <Infinity> Even I feel the same...but yeah let's see :/
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- # [19:15] <@eeejay> davidb,
- # [19:15] <@eeejay> yo
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- # [19:32] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: Hi! Does the native Android UI really not support text editing? It's hard to believe. Or did I misread your comment?
- # [19:33] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, you did not misread it!
- # [19:33] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, try out other native apps and prove me wrong
- # [19:33] <@MarcoZ> OK, another fact I wish I'd never learned about Android. Man, how can they seriously expect anybody to use this productively?
- # [19:33] <@tbsaunde|afk> nobody ever needs more than back it out :p
- # [19:33] * @MarcoZ shakes his head.
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- # [19:34] <@MarcoZ> tbsaunde: You mean as long as somebody has a functioning backspace key, they're good?
- # [19:34] * @MarcoZ can't count the times he's effectively used the editing capabilities of iOS.
- # [19:34] <@tbsaunde> MarcoZ: yes, (obviously I'm joking)
- # [19:35] <@tbsaunde> nobody will ever need more than 640k &c
- # [19:36] <@tbsaunde> but really I use my phone rarely enough that it isn't a huge anoynce for me, though I can see it being really bad for other people
- # [19:39] <@MarcoZ> tbsaunde: Yes, the way I use a smart phone really means I'd suffer from this lack almost every other day.
- # [19:39] * @MarcoZ is really looking forward to eeejay's implementation.
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- # [19:41] <@eeejay> MarcoZ. tbh it is a bit of a relief not to have to work on that this cycle
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- # [19:52] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Target Milestone on bug 753076 from --- to mozilla15.
- # [19:52] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753076 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Make directional controller interoperate with text entries.
- # [19:55] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: But with this bug, part of it is already there, so yeah there's something to look forward to! :)
- # [19:56] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, i think in the next version after ff 15, we will simply send "text changed" events with useful feedback in editing for pre-ICS devices
- # [19:56] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, so we would send "foo selected" instead of a select event with the range of foo
- # [19:58] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 755387 filed by eitan@monotonous.org.
- # [19:58] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=755387 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Support rtl text input caret movement
- # [20:01] <Infinity> tbsaunde: the test still fails
- # [20:01] <Infinity> I have removed all the changes and rebuilt it
- # [20:01] <Infinity> is it some kind of bug?....
- # [20:03] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: maybe? I'm kind of confused
- # [20:03] <@tbsaunde> what is the last commit you have?
- # [20:04] <Infinity> One second.....
- # [20:04] <Infinity> tbsaunde: Bug 740750
- # [20:05] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=740750 nor, --, mozilla15, junky.argonaut, RESO FIXED, Use nsITreeView* instead of nsCOMPtr<nsITreeView> as followup to bug#739524
- # [20:05] <Infinity> That passed all tests :?
- # [20:05] <Infinity> :/
- # [20:05] <@davidb> eeejay: pong
- # [20:05] <@eeejay> davidb, nm
- # [20:05] <@davidb> ok
- # [20:06] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: probably? but that's really old
- # [20:06] <@tbsaunde> you should update
- # [20:06] <Infinity> I updated and built it
- # [20:06] <Infinity> like surkov suggested last time
- # [20:06] <Infinity> Are there no bugs witht he recent updates?
- # [20:07] <Infinity> chrome://mochitests/content/a11y/accessible/events/test_scroll.xul
- # [20:07] <Infinity> tbsaunde: it keeps getting stuck at that test
- # [20:08] <@tbsaunde> well, the commit you mention is pretty old
- # [20:08] <@tbsaunde> that might be a test that is known flakey
- # [20:08] <@tbsaunde> I'd suggest just running the one test you touch with TEST_PATH=accessible/foo/test_something.html make mochitest-a11y
- # [20:09] <Infinity> you mean running the one test I am making a change to?
- # [20:10] <Infinity> tbsaunde: what do I do about the failed mochitests then :(
- # [20:10] <Infinity> it isn't supposed to fail right?
- # [20:11] <@tbsaunde> yes
- # [20:11] <@tbsaunde> I'd assume they're a timeing issue specific to your machine
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- # [20:12] <Infinity> Ok...I suppose its that
- # [20:12] <Infinity> it gets stuck and then after like 10mins the other tests run
- # [20:12] <Infinity> weird isn't it?
- # [20:12] <NeilAway> do we expose <menuitem type="radio"> in any special way?
- # [20:13] <NeilAway> (compared to a regular menuitem, that is)
- # [20:13] <NeilAway> (note: not compared to <menuitem type="radio" checked="true"> either)
- # [20:13] <Infinity> tbsaunde: Do all the tests pass on your pc?
- # [20:13] <capella> infinity: after you pulled your telemetry changes, did you re-build all or just the a11y portion?
- # [20:14] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: haven't run them locally in a while
- # [20:14] <Infinity> all of them capella
- # [20:14] <Infinity> just to be safe..I rebuilt the whole stuff each time I made any change
- # [20:14] <@tbsaunde> NeilAway: I'd expect the role differs
- # [20:14] <Infinity> Took very little time to rebuild though...
- # [20:14] <Infinity> that's ok I hope...
- # [20:15] <Infinity> tbsaunde: where do you run the tests?
- # [20:15] <capella> infinity: if you do a HG DIFF you only see one line change you made for this patch right? nothing else?
- # [20:15] <@tbsaunde> NeilAway: in particular RADIO_MENU_ITEM vs MENU_ITEM
- # [20:15] <Infinity> I even removed that and tried capella....but the test failed
- # [20:15] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: try mostly
- # [20:15] <Infinity> that's why I asked ! :(
- # [20:15] <Infinity> tbsaunde: how do I run it on the tryserver?
- # [20:16] <Infinity> I have l1 access now :)
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- # [20:17] <capella> infinity: HG DIFF shows .no changes< then?
- # [20:17] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: just push to try with your hcange in a commit?
- # [20:17] <Infinity> capella: now ne changes at all
- # [20:18] <Infinity> should'nt the mochitests work fine now?
- # [20:18] <capella> odd - yes they should - when last time you did a hg pull -u
- # [20:18] <capella> ?
- # [20:18] <Infinity> tbsaunde: A link to how I could do that would be helpful!
- # [20:18] <Infinity> Three days back...when surkov suggested
- # [20:18] <Infinity> last time I talked to you
- # [20:19] <capella> infinity: btw if hg diff shows nothing as you say, then theres nothing to push to try
- # [20:19] <Infinity> no...I will make the change and push it to try!
- # [20:19] <Infinity> Check if it works fine there :/
- # [20:20] <Infinity> capella tbsaunde: Any links to how I could do that?!
- # [20:20] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: make change, commit or make mqueue patch, and hg push -f https://<your user name>@hg.mozilla.org/try
- # [20:20] <capella> hes not using MQ yet
- # [20:20] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: there is a wiki page on wiki.mo
- # [20:22] <Infinity> tbsaunde: Yeah...I am not using MQ yet!
- # [20:22] <Infinity> Will get it this weekend :/
- # [20:23] <drexler> Infinity: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mercurial_Queues
- # [20:23] <Infinity> Thanks tbsaunde...will check it out :)
- # [20:23] <drexler> Infinity: https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseEngineering/TryServer
- # [20:23] <Infinity> thanks drexler...I suppose its about time I get MQ
- # [20:23] <Infinity> :D
- # [20:24] <drexler> Infinity: yw :)
- # [20:24] <capella> woo hoo! score one for the debugger :)
- # [20:25] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: hmm, ok
- # [20:26] <@tbsaunde> NeilAway: what's up?
- # [20:26] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: just reviewing a patch that changes the Go menu in SeaMonkey
- # [20:26] <@tbsaunde> ah
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- # [20:33] <NeilAway> yeah, its role changes and it becomes checkable, at least
- # [20:33] <NeilAway> tbsaunde: but I don't think that's a big enough loss in this case
- # [20:34] * NeilAway would think differently if it exposed the group in a useful way perhaps
- # [20:35] <@tbsaunde> I'm not familiar with the seaMonkey ui
- # [20:38] <Infinity> tbsaunde capella: Gotta go now
- # [20:39] <Infinity> I guess I'll attach the patch to the bug and indicate the failed tests asking surkov for feedback!
- # [20:39] <Infinity> is that ok?
- # [20:39] <Infinity> in the mean time I guess I'll try using the tryserver :/
- # [20:40] <capella> infinity: you can run one test just by scrolling down and clicking the link on the chrome mochitest window
- # [20:40] <@tbsaunde> Infinity: sure
- # [20:41] <Infinity> ok..thanks for the help guys
- # [20:41] <Infinity> :)
- # [20:41] <capella> infinity: is cool ... just keep me on this tab - you'll get tbsaunde and i confused trying to help you @ the same time
- # [20:42] <Infinity> capella: sure :)
- # [20:43] <Infinity> tbsaunde: catchya later...hopefully with good results :D
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- # [21:31] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=747219 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, decomtaminate GetCellAt() on accessible tables
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