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  1. # Session Start: Tue May 22 00:00:00 2012
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
  3. # [00:38] <@firebot> bugzilla@mversen.de changed the Component on bug 757203 from General to Disability Access APIs.
  4. # [00:38] <@firebot> bugzilla@mversen.de changed the Product on bug 757203 from SeaMonkey to Core.
  5. # [00:38] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757203 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, crash when deleting cookie
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  25. # [05:49] <@firebot> bmcbride@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 492557 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  26. # [05:49] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=492557 nor, --, ---, nobody, ASSI, create a keyboard shortcut HUD?
  27. # [05:58] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 625114 on bug 740766.
  28. # [05:58] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=740766 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, dexpcom nsAccessible::GroupPosition
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  30. # [06:13] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 739198 from --- to mozilla15.
  31. # [06:13] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739198 nor, --, mozilla15, markcapella, ASSI, stop GetAccService()->GetAccessible usage in AccEvent::GetAccessibleForNode
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  38. # [07:19] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 625896 on bug 756975.
  39. # [07:19] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756975 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, make RootAccessible::NativeRole faster
  40. # [07:40] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 625710 on bug 749810.
  41. # [07:40] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=749810 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, getText(0, -1) fails with empty text
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  44. # [08:25] <@firebot> oussamabadr@gmail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 625902 on bug 675879.
  45. # [08:25] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=675879 nor, --, ---, oussamabadr, NEW, clean up nsIAccessible action methods
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  53. # [11:03] <@firebot> scoobidiver@netcourrier.com changed the Status on bug 757203 from UNCONFIRMED to NEW.
  54. # [11:03] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757203 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash when deleting cookie
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  57. # [11:12] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com changed the Status on bug 752986 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED.
  58. # [11:12] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=752986 nor, --, mozilla15, eitan, VERI FIXED, [AccessFu] Use left right D-Pad keys for content navigation
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  60. # [11:14] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com changed the Status on bug 745986 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED.
  61. # [11:14] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745986 nor, --, mozilla15, eitan, VERI FIXED, [AccessFu] Display page loading states
  62. # [11:19] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com changed the Status on bug 749812 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED.
  63. # [11:19] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=749812 nor, --, mozilla15, eitan, VERI FIXED, [AccessFu] Display text editing changes
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  67. # [11:35] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 756381 from --- to mozilla15.
  68. # [11:35] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756381 nor, --, mozilla15, surkov.alexander, ASSI, make FocusManager::FocusedDOMNode faster
  69. # [12:00] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 757370 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
  70. # [12:00] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757370 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Actually speak the character navigating to inside entry fields when navigating
  71. # [12:01] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 757372 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
  72. # [12:02] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757372 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Provide feedback when entering an entry field for editing
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  75. # [12:21] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 625902 on bug 675879.
  76. # [12:21] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=675879 nor, --, ---, oussamabadr, NEW, clean up nsIAccessible action methods
  77. # [12:26] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 757381 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
  78. # [12:26] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757381 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Indicate whether a text entry field is multi line.
  79. # [12:29] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 757382 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
  80. # [12:29] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757382 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Indicate whether a link has been visited previously.
  81. # [12:31] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 757383 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
  82. # [12:31] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757383 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Indicate form field states such as required or invalid
  83. # [12:33] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 757384 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
  84. # [12:33] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757384 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Indicate fieldset groupings.
  85. # [13:13] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 757392 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
  86. # [13:13] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757392 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in nsIDocument::GetRootElement
  87. # [13:34] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 625896 on bug 756975.
  88. # [13:34] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756975 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, make RootAccessible::NativeRole faster
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  95. # [15:03] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 624733 on bug 756087.
  96. # [15:03] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756087 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, nsAccessible::GetChildCount should return unsigned int
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  100. # [15:17] <@davidb> heyo
  101. # [15:19] <@MarcoZ> Heyo davidb!
  102. # [15:19] <@davidb> hi hi
  103. # [15:19] <@davidb> MarcoZ: feeling better?
  104. # [15:22] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 757418 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
  105. # [15:22] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757418 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] On some Wikipedia pages, document title is repeated whenever returning from a link
  106. # [15:22] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Yes, thanks! I had some problems on Thurs and Fri, too, but since Saturday, I'm back to health.
  107. # [15:22] <@davidb> cool
  108. # [15:23] <@MarcoZ> Filing bugs like crazy today.
  109. # [15:33] <@MarcoZ> davidb: https://intranet.mozilla.org/User:Mzehe:status:2012-05-22 if you're interested. :)
  110. # [15:34] <@davidb> i am
  111. # [15:34] <@davidb> ty
  112. # [15:37] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com granted review for attachment 625676 on bug 757109.
  113. # [15:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757109 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Handle moving from invalid virtual cursor positions
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  115. # [15:43] <@davidb> MarcoZ: providing patches for accessfu would be awesome
  116. # [15:52] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 754869 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  117. # [15:52] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 754869 to FIXED.
  118. # [15:52] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754869 nor, --, mozilla15, vinceyang15, RESO FIXED, MustPrune should take nsAccessible*
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  122. # [16:09] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Is jsat/utteranceGenerator.jsm the right place to add utterances for new states like "multi line", "required" etc.?
  123. # [16:10] <@davidb> probably
  124. # [16:10] <@MarcoZ> Or are these just for states that can change upon a user interaction like checking/unchecking, expanding/collapsing etc.?
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  128. # [16:11] <@davidb> MarcoZ: good question
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  131. # [16:21] <tbsaunde> surkov: plans to do something with bug 756983?
  132. # [16:21] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756983 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, make nsAccessible::GetActionName faster
  133. # [16:22] <@surkov> tbsaunde: yeah, the patch is much bigger, I didn't finish it yet
  134. # [16:22] <@surkov> I need to split states getting again
  135. # [16:22] <tbsaunde> surkov: ok, sounds good
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  139. # [16:41] <@davidb> i wonder if bug 579517 is gonna move forward
  140. # [16:41] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=579517 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Use stdint types in gecko, replacing usage of NSPR types
  141. # [16:42] <@davidb> (hope)
  142. # [16:44] <@tbsaunde> heh, wnt to work on it? :-P
  143. # [16:45] * @tbsaunde isn't terribly bothered by nspr types
  144. # [16:49] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com requested review from eitan@monotonous.or g for attachment 626004 on bug 757381.
  145. # [16:49] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757381 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Indicate whether a text entry field is multi line.
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  148. # [16:54] <@davidb> tbsaunde: no thanks :)
  149. # [16:56] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 757440 filed by scoobidiver@netcourrier.com.
  150. # [16:56] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757440 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in nsHTMLTableAccessible::ColCount with JAWS 11
  151. # [16:59] <@davidb> that's an easy one ^
  152. # [17:04] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 626011 on bug 757440.
  153. # [17:04] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 757440 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
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  158. # [17:44] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 756975 from --- to mozilla15.
  159. # [17:44] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756975 nor, --, mozilla15, surkov.alexander, ASSI, make RootAccessible::NativeRole faster
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  162. # [17:53] <@firebot> enndeakin@gmail.com granted review for attachment 625571 on bug 756973.
  163. # [17:53] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756973 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, make RootAccessible::NativeState faster
  164. # [17:57] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 626011 on bug 757440.
  165. # [17:57] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757440 cri, --, ---, dbolter, ASSI, crash in nsHTMLTableAccessible::ColCount with JAWS 11
  166. # [17:59] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested review from dbolter@mozilla.com for attachment 626038 on bug 757109.
  167. # [18:00] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757109 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Handle moving from invalid virtual cursor positions
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  170. # [18:11] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org cancelled review?(eitan@monotonous.or g) for attachment 626004 on bug 757381.
  171. # [18:11] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757381 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Indicate whether a text entry field is multi line.
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  175. # [18:19] <@jprmc> eeejay: ping
  176. # [18:19] <@eeejay> jprmc, yo
  177. # [18:19] <@jprmc> hey
  178. # [18:19] <@jprmc> eeejay: is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=752947 fixed for you on nightly and/or aurora?
  179. # [18:19] <@firebot> Bug 752947 nor, P1, ---, sjohnson, NEW, Flour missing from pancake recipe
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  183. # [18:22] <@eeejay> jprmc, yes! it's fixed
  184. # [18:23] <capella> laughs i remember that one
  185. # [18:24] <@jprmc> eeejay: on aurora too?
  186. # [18:24] <@eeejay> jprmc, i see it in aurora. didn't test nightly
  187. # [18:25] <@jprmc> eeejay: see it fixed you mean?
  188. # [18:25] <@eeejay> jprmc, yes, it is fixed. commented in the bug
  189. # [18:26] <@jprmc> thanks
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  191. # [18:32] <davidb|mobile> \o/ we can make pancakes again!
  192. # [18:32] <@eeejay> the fluffy kind, with flour
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  195. # [18:50] <@MarcoZ> Will take care of this tomorrow and see where the discussion on bug 757381 went until then. Off for the evening. See you all!
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  197. # [18:50] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757381 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Indicate whether a text entry field is multi line.
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  201. # [19:01] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 747219 from --- to mozilla15.
  202. # [19:01] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=747219 nor, --, mozilla15, markcapella, ASSI, decomtaminate GetCellAt() on accessible tables
  203. # [19:01] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 745429 from --- to mozilla15.
  204. # [19:01] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745429 nor, --, mozilla15, markcapella, ASSI, don't use QueryInterface() in CAccessibleImage
  205. # [19:06] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
  206. # [19:07] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 757503 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  207. # [19:07] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757503 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, decomtaminate GetCellIndexAt() on accessible tables
  208. # [19:08] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com granted review for attachment 626038 on bug 757109.
  209. # [19:08] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757109 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Handle moving from invalid virtual cursor positions
  210. # [19:10] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 757504 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  211. # [19:10] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757504 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, decomtaminate GetColumnExtentAt/GetRowExtentAt on accessible tables
  212. # [19:32] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 757440 from --- to mozilla15.
  213. # [19:32] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757440 cri, --, mozilla15, dbolter, ASSI, crash in nsHTMLTableAccessible::ColCount with JAWS 11
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  215. # [19:35] <@davidb> eeejay: i'd prefer isDefunct :P
  216. # [19:35] <@eeejay> davidb, as opposed to isNotDefunct?
  217. # [19:35] <@davidb> but your call
  218. # [19:35] <@davidb> right
  219. # [19:36] <@eeejay> davidb, ok. i'll do that
  220. # [19:36] <@davidb> thanks!
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  222. # [19:40] <@hub> we use 'isDefunct() everywhere
  223. # [19:40] <@hub> so yeah
  224. # [19:40] <@hub> :-)
  225. # [19:40] <@davidb> right
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  230. # [20:10] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Target Milestone on bug 757109 from --- to mozilla15.
  231. # [20:10] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757109 nor, --, mozilla15, eitan, NEW, [AccessFu] Handle moving from invalid virtual cursor positions
  232. # [20:12] <@davidb> hub, eeejay, tbsaunde any updates to bring up at dev meeting now?
  233. # [20:12] <@eeejay> davidb, nope
  234. # [20:13] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested review from dbolter@mozilla.com for attachment 626093 on bug 757418.
  235. # [20:13] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757418 maj, --, ---, eitan, NEW, [AccessFu] On some Wikipedia pages, document title is repeated whenever returning from a link
  236. # [20:14] <@tbsaunde> davidb: noap
  237. # [20:14] <@davidb> ok
  238. # [20:14] <@davidb> i'm going to bring up the a11y instantiation by unknown cause data
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  241. # [20:28] <davidb|mobile> i lied
  242. # [20:28] <@tbsaunde> davidb|mobile: ?
  243. # [20:30] <@davidb> i didn't bring up the telemetry
  244. # [20:30] <@davidb> the data is currently not showing
  245. # [20:31] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 624322 on bug 754857.
  246. # [20:31] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754857 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, Speed up text leaf accessible state calculation
  247. # [20:32] <@tbsaunde> davidb: ah
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  251. # [20:40] <@davidb> firebot: taras?
  252. # [20:40] <@firebot> davidb: um... taras is Taras Glek <tglek@mozilla.com>, MoCo platform engineer working on automated deCOMtamination using Oink
  253. # [20:40] <khuey> ha
  254. # [20:41] <khuey> not these days
  255. # [20:41] <@davidb> yeah so outta date
  256. # [20:41] <@davidb> khuey: what is his bugmail?
  257. # [20:41] <khuey> his bugmail?
  258. # [20:41] <khuey> something @tglek.org I think
  259. # [20:41] <@davidb> oh got it
  260. # [20:42] <@davidb> frak
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  262. # [20:42] <@davidb> is bmo down?
  263. # [20:43] <khuey> WFM
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  270. # [20:55] <@davidb> probably my bad (internet woes)
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  276. # [21:13] <fxa90id> askalski,
  277. # [21:13] <fxa90id> czesc
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  284. # [21:33] <@firebot> andrew.quartey@gmail.com requested feedback from trev.saunders@gma il.com for attachment 626129 on bug 445516.
  285. # [21:33] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=445516 nor, --, ---, andrew.quartey, ASSI, Support auto-generated=true text attribute on list bullets
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  287. # [21:46] <icaaq> Hi, is there a way to access a link that is inside of a label-element. I've tried in voice over and NVDA with no luck.
  288. # [21:46] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com granted review for attachment 626093 on bug 757418.
  289. # [21:46] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757418 maj, --, ---, eitan, NEW, [AccessFu] On some Wikipedia pages, document title is repeated whenever returning from a link
  290. # [21:49] <@davidb> icaaq: you just missed our expert user by a couple of hours. (MarcoZ)
  291. # [21:49] <@davidb> i'm not aware of issues off-hand
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  293. # [21:55] <icaaq> davidb: ok, I'll ask him tomorrow then :)
  294. # [21:55] <icaaq> davidb: thanks
  295. # [21:57] <@davidb> np
  296. # [21:57] <@davidb> icaaq: BTW what version of FF?
  297. # [21:59] <icaaq> NVDA with ff 12
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  300. # [22:10] <icaaq> davidb: with VO and fx nightly VO finds the link. but not in VO and chrome.
  301. # [22:10] <@davidb> icaaq: chrome?
  302. # [22:11] <icaaq> davidb: yes, you know the "other" browser ;)
  303. # [22:12] <@davidb> heh
  304. # [22:12] <@davidb> ok so we fixed this at some point between 12 and nightly
  305. # [22:12] <@davidb> it does ring a bell
  306. # [22:19] <icaaq> good, but i'm testing this because on almost every page on mozilla.org there is a "I'm okay with you handling this info as you explain in your Privacy Policy" label (in the get mozilla updates form) and I'm not sure it's a good idea to have links in labels :)
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  310. # [22:28] <davidb|mobile> icaaq plz do follow up with MarcoZ tomorrow
  311. # [22:30] <icaaq> davidb|mobile: will do
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  315. # [22:46] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 757598 filed by eitan@monotonous.org.
  316. # [22:46] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757598 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Have fallback click for inaccessible javascript
  317. # [22:48] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested review from dbolter@mozilla.com for attachment 626160 on bug 757598.
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