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  1. # Session Start: Wed May 23 00:00:00 2012
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  7. # [00:18] <@hub> so how to I get to have an accessible created for a xul:deck
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  13. # [01:05] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com granted review for attachment 626160 on bug 757598.
  14. # [01:05] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757598 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Have fallback click for inaccessible javascript
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  19. # [02:01] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 756973 from --- to mozilla15.
  20. # [02:02] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756973 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, make RootAccessible::NativeState faster
  21. # [02:14] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 757670 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  22. # [02:14] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from bzbarsky@mit.edu for attachment 626258 on bug 757670.
  23. # [02:14] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757670 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, make nsIPresShell::GetLinkLocation faster
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  27. # [02:32] <@tbsaunde> hub: create one in the nsAccessibilityService accessible creation logic? though I think what you actually want is just to look at which root accessible has states::ACTIVE
  28. # [02:36] <@hub> tbsaunde: my problem is that it the xul:deck widget seems to be ignored as it does not have an accessible
  29. # [02:36] <@hub> tbsaunde: in the preferences dialog, for example
  30. # [02:37] <@tbsaunde> hub: sure, and I was saying to if you think we should have such an accessible change the accessible creation logic so it exists
  31. # [02:37] <@firebot> djgoodrich@csupomona.edu requested feedback from trev.saunders@gma il.com for attachment 626264 on bug 682811.
  32. # [02:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=682811 nor, --, ---, Jennyherrera.19, NEW, menupopup_start/menupopup_end/alert events should be fired for accessibles inside the shown/hide sub
  33. # [02:38] <@hub> tbsaunde: I was trying to pinpoint where it is
  34. # [02:46] <@tbsaunde> hub: not sure I follow
  35. # [02:47] <@hub> I can
  36. # [02:47] <@hub> I can't find where we map to nsIAccessibleProvider
  37. # [02:47] <@hub> as used in CreateAccessibleByType()
  38. # [02:48] <@tbsaunde> hub: off in toolkit/ somewhere iirc
  39. # [02:51] <gavin> XBL widgets have their nsIAccessibleProvider implementations there
  40. # [02:51] <gavin> but decks aren't implemented with xbl
  41. # [02:51] <@hub> gavin: how are they implemented?
  42. # [02:52] <gavin> Enn would be abetter guy to talk to then I
  43. # [02:52] <gavin> but they're implemented in gecko, via e.g. nsDeckFrame.cpp
  44. # [02:52] <gavin> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/base/nsCSSFrameConstructor.cpp#4164
  45. # [02:53] <gavin> (invoked via http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/content/xul.css#632 )
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  50. # [03:25] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted feedback for attachment 626264 on bug 682811.
  51. # [03:25] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=682811 nor, --, ---, Jennyherrera.19, NEW, menupopup_start/menupopup_end/alert events should be fired for accessibles inside the shown/hide sub
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  72. # [06:24] <icaaq> Morning MarcoZ
  73. # [06:28] <icaaq> MarcoZ: what are your thoughts on having a link inside of a label-element? I was having trouble reaching it with VO using safari/chrome and with NVDA using fx 12.
  74. # [06:42] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(bzbarsky@mit.edu) for attachment 626258 on bug 757670.
  75. # [06:42] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from bzbarsky@mit.edu for attachment 626318 on bug 757670.
  76. # [06:42] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757670 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, make nsIPresShell::GetLinkLocation faster
  77. # [06:43] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 626318 on bug 757670.
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  79. # [07:01] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 626318 on bug 757670.
  80. # [07:01] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757670 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, make nsIPresShell::GetLinkLocation faster
  81. # [07:04] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com requested feedback from surkov.alexander@ gmail.com for attachment 626129 on bug 445516.
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  83. # [07:04] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=445516 nor, --, ---, andrew.quartey, ASSI, Support auto-generated=true text attribute on list bullets
  84. # [07:09] <@firebot> bzbarsky@mit.edu granted review for attachment 626318 on bug 757670.
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  92. # [07:34] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 626325 on bug 745428.
  93. # [07:34] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745428 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, densify nsTextAccessible
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  95. # [07:59] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 757739 filed by scoobidiver@netcourrier.com.
  96. # [08:00] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757739 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in nsAccUtils::MustPrune
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  98. # [08:35] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled feedback?(surkov.alexander@ gmail.com) for attachment 626129 on bug 445516.
  99. # [08:35] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=445516 nor, --, ---, andrew.quartey, ASSI, Support auto-generated=true text attribute on list bullets
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  106. # [09:12] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 626325 on bug 745428.
  107. # [09:13] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745428 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, densify nsTextAccessible
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  109. # [09:24] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 757757 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  110. # [09:24] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from bzbarsky@mit.edu for attachment 626349 on bug 757757.
  111. # [09:25] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757757 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, Add dexpcomed version of GetAnonymousElementByAttribute
  112. # [09:28] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com changed the Component on bug 757721 from General to Disability Access APIs.
  113. # [09:28] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com changed the Product on bug 757721 from Fennec Native to Core.
  114. # [09:28] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757721 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Implement explore by touch for web content in Android
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  119. # [10:41] <capella> surkov: I think i mis-understood .... you said FYI about the two patches and I thought you wanted me to make a change to my
  120. # [10:41] <capella> patch somehow but now I believe you just wanted me to be aware of the changes ... yes?
  121. # [10:42] <@surkov> capella: yeah, just be aware
  122. # [10:42] <capella> oh ... stupid me
  123. # [10:42] <@surkov> you if you are lucky to land them before these patches then you need to do nothing
  124. # [10:42] <capella> gotcha ! else ill find them when I rebase the patch prior to landing
  125. # [10:43] <@surkov> sure
  126. # [10:44] <capella> cool ... everything else is addressed ok in the new patch now ... ill post it inna bit
  127. # [11:04] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 757774 filed by jwalker@mozilla.com.
  128. # [11:04] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757774 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Intermittent TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | chrome://mochitests/content/a11y/accessible/states/test_link.htm
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  130. # [11:24] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 626373 on bug 757739.
  131. # [11:25] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 757739 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  132. # [11:25] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757739 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in nsAccUtils::MustPrune
  133. # [11:30] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 746084 from --- to mozilla15.
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  138. # [12:33] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 754857 from --- to mozilla15.
  139. # [12:33] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754857 nor, --, mozilla15, surkov.alexander, ASSI, Speed up text leaf accessible state calculation
  140. # [13:00] <@MarcoZ> icaaq: A link inside a label element? Hm, never seen that before. Normally, when you click a properly associated label, focus goes to its linked form control (like an associated text input). So a link inside that label wouldn't make sense anyway.
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  142. # [13:36] <icaaq> MarcoZ: there are links in labels on almost every mozilla.org page. in the "Get Mozilla updates:" form there's a "I agree to the http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy-policy" label
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  144. # [13:38] <icaaq> MarcoZ: but yes I think it's confusing.
  145. # [13:41] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 626382 on bug 745428.
  146. # [13:41] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745428 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, densify nsTextAccessible
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  150. # [14:04] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 756973 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  151. # [14:04] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 756973 to FIXED.
  152. # [14:04] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756973 nor, --, mozilla15, surkov.alexander, NEW, make RootAccessible::NativeState faster
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  155. # [14:14] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 757418 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  156. # [14:14] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 757418 to FIXED.
  157. # [14:14] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Target Milestone on bug 757418 from --- to mozilla15.
  158. # [14:14] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757418 maj, --, mozilla15, eitan, RESO FIXED, [AccessFu] On some Wikipedia pages, document title is repeated whenever returning from a link
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  165. # [14:31] <@MarcoZ> icaaq: Oh wait, those are XUL labels. The About page is not HTML in Firefox. Accessibility-wise, that's a totally different issue. :)
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  168. # [14:37] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 757109 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  169. # [14:37] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 757109 to FIXED.
  170. # [14:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757109 nor, --, mozilla15, eitan, RESO FIXED, [AccessFu] Handle moving from invalid virtual cursor positions
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  175. # [14:55] <icaaq> MarcoZ: hmm, not sure I followed you there. I'm talking about html-labels
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  178. # [14:59] <@MarcoZ> icaaq: The example you mention is a XUL window.
  179. # [15:00] <@MarcoZ> In XUL, links are created by using a xul:label element with a specific class attribute value.
  180. # [15:00] <@MarcoZ> However, I don't think I've seen links inside labels in HTML anywhere. Not consciously at least.
  181. # [15:03] <icaaq> MarcoZ: ok, but if you go to http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/ and find the get mozilla updates form, in that there is a checkbox with a label with the text I agree to the Privacy Policy
  182. # [15:03] <icaaq> Privacy Policy in that sentence is a link
  183. # [15:05] <icaaq> I've seen this on other sites as well, checkboxes where you need to agree to some sort of agreement.
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  188. # [15:18] <@MarcoZ> icaaq: OK, found that one. And I don't have any problem with reading the label for the checkbox as well as finding and activating the link. Just tabbing to it works just fine.
  189. # [15:19] <@MarcoZ> So I have two tabstops: One on the checkbox, whose label is read in its entirety, and one for the link.
  190. # [15:22] <icaaq> ok, I've tried it on Voice Over in chrome and safari and they did not announce the link
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  196. # [15:26] <@MarcoZ> icaaq: Yes, VoiceOver and Safari may stop processing at the link boundary, that's possible. Firefox and NVDA do it right.
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  199. # [15:33] <icaaq> MarcoZ: yes. :) wonder how jaws are treating it? *fires up his VMware*
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  203. # [15:34] <@surkov> davidb: hi
  204. # [15:34] <@davidb> surkov: heyo
  205. # [15:34] <@davidb> surkov: skype?
  206. # [15:34] <@surkov> sure
  207. # [15:34] <@davidb> 1 min
  208. # [15:36] <@davidb> surkov: ok call anytime
  209. # [15:36] <@surkov> ok
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  212. # [15:53] <@firebot> oussamabadr@gmail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 626419 on bug 675879.
  213. # [15:53] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=675879 nor, --, ---, oussamabadr, NEW, clean up nsIAccessible action methods
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  222. # [16:31] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 626419 on bug 675879.
  223. # [16:32] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=675879 nor, --, ---, oussamabadr, NEW, clean up nsIAccessible action methods
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  226. # [16:37] <@hub> i'm in
  227. # [16:39] <@davidb> MarcoZ: did you send a meeting announcement - i thought this was an off week.
  228. # [16:39] <@davidb> hub: ^
  229. # [16:39] <@davidb> I usually send an email to you guys Tuesday - sorry I missed this week.
  230. # [16:40] <@davidb> surkov: maybe you and hub can meet about mac instead :)
  231. # [16:40] <@surkov> we can talk by email :)
  232. # [16:41] <@hub> I thought we had a meeting
  233. # [16:46] <@davidb> sure
  234. # [16:46] * @davidb adds event to his calendar to email everyone tuesdays
  235. # [16:46] <@hub> maybe we should just default to no meeting unless said otherwise
  236. # [16:47] <@davidb> yes
  237. # [16:47] <@davidb> unless we missed the last one
  238. # [16:47] <@davidb> so default to alternating in a sense
  239. # [16:52] <@davidb> askalski: another way to force a11y instantiation is to call getApplicationAccessible() in http://dxr.lanedo.com/mozilla-central/accessible/tests/mochitest/common.js.html
  240. # [16:52] <@MarcoZ> davidb: No I didn't send out a meeting invitation since you hadn't called for a meeting. So I was already assuming "no". ;)=
  241. # [16:53] <@askalski> davidb, I can run scripts via marionette, I am learning right now how to extract messages
  242. # [16:53] <@askalski> davidb, *responses
  243. # [16:53] <@davidb> MarcoZ: that's correct. ok.
  244. # [16:58] <@surkov> davidb: once you've got nsIAccessibleRetrieval a11y is enabled
  245. # [17:09] <@davidb> yeah thought so
  246. # [17:09] <@davidb> was just trying to test that on mac
  247. # [17:09] <@davidb> (askalski note above ^)
  248. # [17:10] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 757440 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  249. # [17:11] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 757440 to FIXED.
  250. # [17:11] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757440 cri, --, mozilla15, dbolter, RESO FIXED, crash in nsHTMLTableAccessible::ColCount or nsHTMLTableAccessible::RowCount with JAWS 11
  251. # [17:11] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 747219 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  252. # [17:11] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 747219 to FIXED.
  253. # [17:11] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=747219 nor, --, mozilla15, markcapella, RESO FIXED, decomtaminate GetCellAt() on accessible tables
  254. # [17:11] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 745429 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  255. # [17:11] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 745429 to FIXED.
  256. # [17:11] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745429 nor, --, mozilla15, markcapella, RESO FIXED, don't use QueryInterface() in CAccessibleImage
  257. # [17:11] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 756975 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  258. # [17:11] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 756975 to FIXED.
  259. # [17:11] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756975 nor, --, mozilla15, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, make RootAccessible::NativeRole faster
  260. # [17:13] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 756381 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  261. # [17:13] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 756381 to FIXED.
  262. # [17:13] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756381 nor, --, mozilla15, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, make FocusManager::FocusedDOMNode faster
  263. # [17:14] <@askalski> Component.classes undefined. any clues?
  264. # [17:16] <@askalski> davidb, ^
  265. # [17:17] <@davidb> askalski: it must be defined somewhere
  266. # [17:17] <@davidb> something we include in our test harness
  267. # [17:19] <@askalski> davidb, a-team suggests to set some 'chrome' context, I don't know what that is, although I found method to do it
  268. # [17:20] <@davidb> yeah i'd need to go hunting
  269. # [17:20] <@davidb> i'm not fresh on it
  270. # [17:20] <@askalski> davidb, found it
  271. # [17:20] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 739198 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  272. # [17:20] <@davidb> ok
  273. # [17:20] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 739198 to FIXED.
  274. # [17:20] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739198 nor, --, mozilla15, markcapella, RESO FIXED, stop GetAccService()->GetAccessible usage in AccEvent::GetAccessibleForNode
  275. # [17:32] <@askalski> what does that mean: NS_ERROR_FAILURE: Component returned failure code: 0x800040
  276. # [17:32] <@askalski> 05 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIAccessible.indexInParent] ?
  277. # [17:33] <@MarcoZ> askalski: That it wasn't able to retrieve the indexInParent for an accessible.
  278. # [17:34] <@askalski> MarcoZ, ok, but it's a piece of mochitest's common.js
  279. # [17:34] * @MarcoZ had to disappoint surkov yet again.
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  282. # [17:56] <@askalski> davidb, JavascriptException: NS_ERROR_FAILURE: Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIAccessible.indexInParent]
  283. # [17:56] <@askalski> davidb, on this piece of code :(
  284. # [17:58] <@askalski> davidb, ok, got it 'fixed'
  285. # [18:01] <@davidb> great
  286. # [18:01] <@davidb> i'm installing windows 7 on an optiplex 755 for MATS
  287. # [18:01] <@askalski> davidb, cool, what is optiplex 755?
  288. # [18:02] <@askalski> davidb, *and* the error I mentioned is Marionette's failure to serialize IAccessible objects to python via JS->python bridge they done
  289. # [18:02] <@askalski> davidb, would we like that to be fixed? I guess it's a bit of gluing in javascript
  290. # [18:02] <@askalski> davidb, I might learn a lot trying to do it at some point. the question right now is whether I should do a bug for it or no
  291. # [18:03] <@askalski> davidb, googled optiplex, nice :)
  292. # [18:03] <@davidb> (not that nice)
  293. # [18:03] <@davidb> re bug… i really don't know
  294. # [18:03] <@davidb> is it stopping you?
  295. # [18:04] <@askalski> davidb, not at all, I discovered that writing basic bool isAccessibilityWorking(void) which can be done other way than returning whole interface
  296. # [18:05] <@davidb> ok
  297. # [18:05] <@davidb> this sounds simplest to me
  298. # [18:08] <@askalski> davidb, http://pastebin.com/kHxSY4ML
  299. # [18:08] <@askalski> davidb, there is a problem
  300. # [18:08] <@askalski> davidb, first method returns true, which I means suggests that the interface is taken, and engine should be instantiated
  301. # [18:08] <@askalski> davidb, second method returns false though
  302. # [18:09] <@davidb> i'm not sure return app != null is correct
  303. # [18:10] <@davidb> might be undefined
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  305. # [18:11] <@askalski> davidb, ok, well, I cannot return app itself, since I get this serialisation error. is there something like app.get_name() or something?
  306. # [18:11] <@askalski> davidb, imagine I can only return primitive types, and I have to return something, so JS optimiser do not remove entire variable
  307. # [18:12] <@davidb> maybe return (app)? true : false
  308. # [18:12] <@askalski> davidb, I'll try appName()
  309. # [18:12] <@askalski> first
  310. # [18:12] <@davidb> ok
  311. # [18:14] <@askalski> davidb, yay, returns 'Firefox' :D
  312. # [18:15] <@askalski> davidb, although second function still returns false :(
  313. # [18:15] <@askalski> davidb, ok, don't look, DUMB error
  314. # [18:15] <@askalski> davidb, I just left some debuging trash inside function's body
  315. # [18:19] <@askalski> davidb, now this http://pastebin.com/3keQvDpw returns 'exception'
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  318. # [18:21] <@askalski> davidb, ok, got a clue what's happening
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  320. # [18:25] <@askalski> davidb, yes! the tests 0 and 1 (instantiation and click->focus_event) works!
  321. # [18:28] <@davidb> askalski: great
  322. # [18:30] <@askalski> davidb, I can't wait deployment
  323. # [18:30] <@askalski> :D
  324. # [18:30] <@askalski> it will be soo cool
  325. # [18:31] <@davidb> :)
  326. # [18:34] <@davidb> askalski: how do you want to access this box? RDP?
  327. # [18:35] <@askalski> davidb, I don't know what is RDP. I was thinking about vpn, but I can learn new stuff
  328. # [18:35] <@askalski> davidb, keep in mind I use primarly linux
  329. # [18:35] <@askalski> davidb, although I can access from my win7 vbox, I guess. it's fast.
  330. # [18:35] <@davidb> ok
  331. # [18:35] <@davidb> i'll file a bug to get a static ip
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  333. # [18:36] <@askalski> davidb, dyndns ?
  334. # [18:37] <@davidb> askalski: check PM
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  336. # [18:48] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Status on bug 757418 from RESOLVED to UNCONFIRMED.
  337. # [18:48] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org cleared the Resolution 'FIXED' from bug 757418.
  338. # [18:48] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Target Milestone on bug 757418 from mozilla15 to ---.
  339. # [18:48] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757418 maj, --, mozilla15, eitan, RESO FIXED, [AccessFu] On some Wikipedia pages, document title is repeated whenever returning from a link
  340. # [18:48] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
  341. # [18:51] <@davidb> eeejay: ? reopened?
  342. # [18:51] <@davidb> (are you going the nvda way?)
  343. # [18:51] <@eeejay> davidb, reopened what?
  344. # [18:51] <@davidb> eeejay: ^
  345. # [18:52] <fxa90id> :-)
  346. # [18:52] <fxa90id> dont argue guys ;d
  347. # [18:52] <@eeejay> oops!
  348. # [18:53] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Status on bug 757418 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED.
  349. # [18:53] <@eeejay> don't know how i did that
  350. # [18:53] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org set the Resolution field on bug 757418 to FIXED.
  351. # [18:53] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Target Milestone on bug 757418 from --- to mozilla15.
  352. # [18:53] <@eeejay> ok
  353. # [18:53] <@eeejay> bbiab
  354. # [18:56] <@MarcoZ> Wow, lots of stuff landed today! Tomorrow will be an intense testing day.
  355. # [18:56] <@MarcoZ> But for today, I'm calling it a night. See you all!
  356. # [18:56] <@davidb> ciao!
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  361. # [19:49] <capella> is there a standard wait period for successful changes in inboound before they go to central? or is it more a
  362. # [19:49] <capella> function of other work in the queue?
  363. # [19:49] <khuey> it gets merged once a day or so
  364. # [19:50] <khuey> usually during the day in Europe
  365. # [19:50] <@hub> capella: that's why I always work on inbound :-)
  366. # [19:50] <capella> khuey: thanks .... was curious
  367. # [19:51] <capella> hub: not brave enough for that yet :D
  368. # [19:51] <@hub> capella: it is not as brave as attempting to reconcile the two with mercurial
  369. # [19:52] <capella> hub:I can belive that ... i had to redo a two hour patch from start yesterday ... mercurial couldnt handle multiple
  370. # [19:52] <capella> renames and lost is merge / mind
  371. # [19:53] <@hub> capella: so :-)
  372. # [19:53] <capella> but im still amazed at what it does well
  373. # [19:54] <@hub> it is no git
  374. # [19:54] <capella> no experience there, but ive heard good things
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  378. # [20:08] <@askalski> davidb, IP changed?
  379. # [20:08] <@davidb> askalski: dunno
  380. # [20:08] <@davidb> will check
  381. # [20:08] <@davidb> askalski: did you update sleep settings?
  382. # [20:08] <@askalski> davidb, nope
  383. # [20:08] <@davidb> askalski: ah
  384. # [20:08] <@davidb> you should :)
  385. # [20:09] <@askalski> davidb, ok :)
  386. # [20:09] <@davidb> try now
  387. # [20:11] <@davidb> askalski: any luck?
  388. # [20:11] <@davidb> i can double check ip
  389. # [20:11] <@davidb> but don't want to nudge you off
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  391. # [20:16] <capella> dang inbound closed?
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  394. # [20:17] <@askalski> davidb, sorry, net died
  395. # [20:17] <@davidb> s'ok
  396. # [20:18] <@davidb> askalski: ip is same
  397. # [20:18] <@davidb> askalski: i made it never sleep
  398. # [20:18] <@askalski> davidb, thanks
  399. # [20:18] <@davidb> np
  400. # [20:20] <@askalski> davidb, it is not responding ping or anything now
  401. # [20:21] <@davidb> oh weird same here
  402. # [20:22] <capella> inbound tree is CLOSED for bug 757911 :(
  403. # [20:22] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757911 blo, --, ---, server-ops-database, NEW, buildbot database replication event causing multiple failures
  404. # [20:29] <@davidb> askalski: i'm still troubleshooting
  405. # [20:29] <@askalski> davidb, ok
  406. # [20:31] <@davidb> askalski: rdp WFM
  407. # [20:32] <@askalski> WFM?
  408. # [20:32] <@davidb> askalski: where you ever able to ping it even earlier?
  409. # [20:32] <@davidb> WFM = works for me
  410. # [20:32] <@askalski> davidb, don't remember
  411. # [20:32] <@askalski> davidb, I will setup VPN to route this IP
  412. # [20:33] <@davidb> (i just tried it again - telling you in case you got booted0
  413. # [20:34] <@askalski> working
  414. # [20:34] <@askalski> routing via vpn
  415. # [20:34] <@askalski> the ping doesn't work stiil
  416. # [20:34] <@askalski> *still
  417. # [20:34] <@davidb> i guess we block ping
  418. # [20:34] <@firebot> bzbarsky@mit.edu granted review for attachment 626349 on bug 757757.
  419. # [20:34] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757757 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, Add dexpcomed version of GetAnonymousElementByAttribute
  420. # [20:34] <@askalski> davidb, ok, so I will start playing with it
  421. # [20:34] <@davidb> ok
  422. # [20:35] <@davidb> (or sleep)
  423. # [20:37] <@askalski> davidb, should I set build environment there as well, or just upload my build?
  424. # [20:37] <@davidb> askalski: up to you
  425. # [20:38] <@askalski> davidb, ok
  426. # [20:38] <@davidb> you mean just for firefox?
  427. # [20:38] <@davidb> or do you mean building the test harness?
  428. # [20:38] <@askalski> davidb, firefox
  429. # [20:39] <@askalski> davidb, test harness is in python, so it's interpreted
  430. # [20:39] <@davidb> yeah
  431. # [20:39] <@davidb> and pyc is trivial
  432. # [20:39] <@davidb> by build i include the idea of packaging/installing
  433. # [20:40] <@davidb> but all good
  434. # [20:41] <@askalski> davidb, I will install git and just update, because now we iterate
  435. # [20:43] <@davidb> ok
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  438. # [20:57] <@eeejay> davidb, does your r+ on bug 757598 still stand?
  439. # [20:57] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757598 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Have fallback click for inaccessible javascript
  440. # [20:57] <@eeejay> davidb, i don't see any steps i could take with alex's input
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  442. # [21:00] <@davidb> eeejay: what does a delay mean? are there testers in the wild that are blocked?
  443. # [21:00] <@eeejay> davidb, we could delay
  444. # [21:02] <@eeejay> davidb, but i am not sure for what
  445. # [21:02] <@davidb> yeah i'm looking
  446. # [21:05] <@davidb> eeejay: okay r still= me
  447. # [21:06] <@eeejay> davidb, thanks
  448. # [21:06] <@davidb> np
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  452. # [21:23] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 757954 filed by eitan@monotonous.org.
  453. # [21:23] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757954 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Report object states in a scalable fashion
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  462. # [22:33] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested feedback from surkov.alexander@ gmail.com for attachment 626578 on bug 750612.
  463. # [22:33] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750612 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [Mac] Too much is exposed to VoiceOver that is actually not currently visible/interactable
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