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  1. # Session Start: Fri Jun 01 00:00:00 2012
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  12. # [03:34] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 629020 on bug 759736.
  13. # [03:34] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=759736 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, Add VO-only mode for FF a11y on mac.
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  23. # [04:31] <@surkov> tbsaunde: hi
  24. # [05:01] <@tbsaunde> surkov: hi
  25. # [05:01] <@surkov> tbsaunde: please continue review from bug 760064 and 759670
  26. # [05:01] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=760064 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, don't include NotificationController.h into headers
  27. # [05:01] <@surkov> (skipping that states bug)
  28. # [05:02] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ok, was just about to start 760064
  29. # [05:02] <@surkov> ok, cool
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  31. # [05:18] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 628681 on bug 760064.
  32. # [05:18] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=760064 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, don't include NotificationController.h into headers
  33. # [05:19] <@surkov> tbsaunde: thx! next one is bug 759670 :)
  34. # [05:19] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=759670 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Intermittent accessible/events/test_docload.xul | Test timed out.
  35. # [05:23] <@tbsaunde> surkov: oh, before the crash?
  36. # [05:23] <@surkov> tbsaunde: mm, actually they shouldn't overlap
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  38. # [05:52] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 628763 on bug 760038.
  39. # [05:52] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=760038 cri, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, crash in NotificationController::WillRefresh
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  44. # [06:10] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 628718 on bug 760099.
  45. # [06:10] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=760099 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, add logging for events/test_docload.xul
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  48. # [06:21] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 760354 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  49. # [06:21] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=760354 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, implement IsInDocument as accessible flag
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  55. # [07:55] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 628393 on bug 756983.
  56. # [08:04] <@tbsaunde> surkov: want anything else from me tonight?
  57. # [08:06] <@surkov> tbsaunde: nope, thank you
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  61. # [09:46] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com changed the Status on bug 759307 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  62. # [09:46] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=759307 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, rename nsHTMLImageAccessible to ImageAccessible
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  70. # [10:42] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com changed the Status on bug 757382 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  71. # [10:42] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com set the Resolution field on bug 757382 to FIXED.
  72. # [10:42] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757382 nor, --, ---, eitan, RESO FIXED, [AccessFu] Indicate whether a link has been visited previously.
  73. # [10:42] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com changed the Status on bug 757382 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED.
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  79. # [11:29] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 629110 on bug 759310.
  80. # [11:29] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=759310 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, de-ns-ify nsHTMLTextAccessible file classes
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  85. # [12:34] <@firebot> markcapella@twcny.rr.com cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 629110 on bug 759310.
  86. # [12:34] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=759310 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, de-ns-ify nsHTMLTextAccessible file classes
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  92. # [13:41] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 629141 on bug 759310.
  93. # [13:41] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=759310 nor, --, ---, markcapella, ASSI, de-ns-ify nsHTMLTextAccessible file classes
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  95. # [13:50] <capella> surkov: you mean incorporate everything from .cpp into the .h entirely?
  96. # [13:50] <@surkov> capella: only constructors
  97. # [13:51] <capella> Ah ... function / members and NS_IMPL_ISUPPORTS_ stay put
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  106. # [14:50] <@firebot> junky.argonaut@gmail.com requested feedback from surkov.alexander@ gmail.com for attachment 629152 on bug 429990.
  107. # [14:50] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=429990 nor, --, ---, junky.argonaut, NEW, check in/out arguments on NULL in MSAA/IA2 methods
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  110. # [14:53] <Infinity> davidb|mobile: How does the IRC look from your mobile? :P
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  112. # [15:00] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Ping?
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  114. # [15:02] <@MarcoZ> surkov: Anyway, see the last comment in bug 759670 from Ed Morley. Either the test should be disabled or bug 754165 backed out before uplift, which is on Tuesday. So if you have no good idea yet, we must make a decision *soon*.
  115. # [15:02] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=759670 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Intermittent accessible/events/test_docload.xul | Test timed out.
  116. # [15:02] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754165 nor, --, mozilla15, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, fire document load events on iframes too
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  126. # [15:43] <@surkov> MarcoZ: Tuesday is not really soon
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  129. # [15:55] <@MarcoZ> surkov: I once heard a rumour that there are things called weekends. :D
  130. # [15:55] <@surkov> MarcoZ: yeah, some people says :)
  131. # [15:55] <@MarcoZ> Hi davidb!
  132. # [15:56] <@davidb> hi!
  133. # [15:56] <@davidb> there is no rest for the weary
  134. # [15:57] <@davidb> surkov: idiom ^
  135. # [15:57] <@surkov> thx
  136. # [15:57] <@davidb> we have no milk for my latte! i can't work in these conditions!
  137. # [15:57] <@davidb> what a morning
  138. # [15:58] <@davidb> kidding of course - but today has been a series of fail so far for me :)
  139. # [16:00] <capella> little ones ?with any hope?
  140. # [16:03] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org denied review for attachment 628690 on bug 758675.
  141. # [16:03] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758675 nor, --, ---, marco.zehe, ASSI, [AccessFu] Speak link title
  142. # [16:04] <@davidb> capella: little ones
  143. # [16:04] <@davidb> i have no right to complain
  144. # [16:05] <capella> good! >meh< ... i had a bad week yesterday also :)
  145. # [16:06] <@davidb> i'm totally overreacting for silliness… i'm happy to have coffee at all
  146. # [16:08] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled feedback?(surkov.alexander@ gmail.com) for attachment 629152 on bug 429990.
  147. # [16:08] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=429990 nor, --, ---, junky.argonaut, NEW, check in/out arguments on NULL in MSAA/IA2 methods
  148. # [16:09] <capella> mayor of NYC wants to ban 32 oz cups ... you can have 32 oz fluid ... but in two cups ... so you >know< its two drinks
  149. # [16:09] <capella> gotta go buy my govt mandated brocolli
  150. # [16:11] <capella> heh infinity isnt using MQ yet ...
  151. # [16:12] <Infinity> capella: hey!...who told you that!
  152. # [16:12] <capella> saw your patch...
  153. # [16:13] <Infinity> ...I did qrefresh and stuff like that
  154. # [16:14] <Infinity> hmmm....
  155. # [16:14] <Infinity> Then I should look more closely at MQ documentation
  156. # [16:14] <Infinity> capella: My next patch will be with MQ...I'll cross check....what should it look like?
  157. # [16:15] <capella> phone brb
  158. # [16:15] <Infinity> cool :)
  159. # [16:22] <Infinity> damn...I didn't use MQ properly :'(
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  162. # [16:33] <@MarcoZ> I did manage to install the eyes-free keyboard on the phone! Alone! Without help! Praise me! :D
  163. # [16:33] <@surkov> cool
  164. # [16:34] <Infinity> MarcoZ: awesome! :D
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  166. # [16:45] <@davidb> MarcoZ: impossible
  167. # [16:46] <@MarcoZ> Yeah, davidb, I hardly believe it myself! I can work miracles! :D
  168. # [16:46] <@MarcoZ> And I can make a complete fool out of myself when it comes to JavaScript syntax. LOL
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  172. # [16:51] <@davidb> hahah
  173. # [16:51] <@davidb> let that be a lesson to you, let it be.
  174. # [16:52] <@askalski> yeah, I would use some serious javascript lessons myself
  175. # [16:55] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: Hi! Thanks for the crash course in how to not write JavaScript! ;)
  176. # [16:55] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, you mean how to write hypothetical javascript you never try? ;)
  177. # [16:57] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 760451 filed by eitan@monotonous.org.
  178. # [16:57] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=760451 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Support skip links
  179. # [17:04] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: Right. ;) I now got that Galaxy Nexus and will set up a build env on Monday to actually push things onto it for testing.
  180. # [17:05] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, cool. I just realized I could use the try server to send you experimental builds
  181. # [17:05] <@eeejay> that is what it is for, i guess
  182. # [17:06] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com requested review from eitan@monotonous.or g for attachment 629188 on bug 758675.
  183. # [17:06] <@davidb> partially
  184. # [17:06] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758675 nor, --, ---, marco.zehe, ASSI, [AccessFu] Speak link title
  185. # [17:07] <@MarcoZ> davidb: What else is it for? :-D
  186. # [17:07] <@davidb> oh i dunno… mochitests :)
  187. # [17:08] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Don't push it. :)
  188. # [17:08] <@davidb> heheh
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  190. # [17:13] <@davidb> MarcoZ: what was the bug you were asking surkov for a decision on earlier this morning?
  191. # [17:26] <@MarcoZ> davidb: bug 759670
  192. # [17:26] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=759670 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Intermittent accessible/events/test_docload.xul | Test timed out.
  193. # [17:26] <@MarcoZ> Basically it's an either disable this failing test, or backout bug 754165 question.
  194. # [17:26] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754165 nor, --, mozilla15, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, fire document load events on iframes too
  195. # [17:27] <@MarcoZ> Unless we have a solution by Monday that will get this test working of course.
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  197. # [17:27] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested review from dbolter@mozilla.com for attachment 629198 on bug 760451.
  198. # [17:27] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=760451 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Support skip links
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  202. # [17:31] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: Marvelous! This will ease navigation on a lot of pages as long as we don't have quick navigation keys/gestures yet.
  203. # [17:31] <@davidb> MarcoZ: well whatever the decision is we can reverse it in aurora if need be
  204. # [17:32] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, yeah. and as far as i know ios does not support it, do they?
  205. # [17:32] <@MarcoZ> davidb: edmorley basically wants this decided on before the merge. Probably because it has had a hundred and more failures since it landed very late Tuesday evening.
  206. # [17:32] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: No they don't.
  207. # [17:33] <@eeejay> mozilla: 1 apple: 23,452
  208. # [17:33] <@davidb> MarcoZ, surkov why don't we disable the test for now? i mean what is the advantage in holding off?
  209. # [17:33] <@MarcoZ> LOL
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  211. # [17:34] <@surkov> davidb: what's advantages of disabling it?
  212. # [17:34] <@MarcoZ> davidb: surkov has a logging patch that should give him a clue as to what's going on there. If we disable the test now, there's no point in landing that logging patch. I am not sure what the state of that logging patch is, though, if it still ned's tbsaunde's review or can land.
  213. # [17:34] <@davidb> ah i see
  214. # [17:34] <@davidb> didn't know about the logging patch
  215. # [17:36] <@davidb> ok sounds like you guys are on the case (i'll move on to patch review)
  216. # [17:36] <@davidb> eeejay: any details you want to give me before i review?
  217. # [17:36] <@davidb> how are you using EVENT_SCROLLING_START ?
  218. # [17:37] <@eeejay> davidb, yeah, is that good?
  219. # [17:37] <@eeejay> davidb, I am using a new API addition for pivot.moveNext
  220. # [17:37] <@eeejay> where you could provide an anchor
  221. # [17:37] <@davidb> eeejay: well i haven't started looking yet… no context
  222. # [17:38] <@davidb> ok
  223. # [17:41] <@davidb> eeejay: is there no focus event?
  224. # [17:42] <@eeejay> davidb, no, it is usually just a move to anchor
  225. # [17:44] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org granted review for attachment 629188 on bug 758675.
  226. # [17:44] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758675 nor, --, ---, marco.zehe, ASSI, [AccessFu] Speak link title
  227. # [17:50] <@davidb> eeejay: comments… ping back when answered plz
  228. # [17:51] <@MarcoZ> davidb: event_scrolling_start is what Windows screen readers also use in this case of moving to an anchor.
  229. # [17:51] <@MarcoZ> Nightly installed, where I needed help for, but setting up sync worked without help.
  230. # [17:51] * @davidb nods
  231. # [17:51] <@davidb> great
  232. # [17:53] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 759305 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  233. # [17:53] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set the Resolution field on bug 759305 to FIXED.
  234. # [17:53] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=759305 nor, --, mozilla15, markcapella, RESO FIXED, De-ns-ify nsHyperTextAccessible
  235. # [17:56] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com granted review for attachment 629198 on bug 760451.
  236. # [17:56] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=760451 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Support skip links
  237. # [17:58] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 760463 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  238. # [17:58] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=760463 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, de-ns-ify nsBaseWidgetAccessible
  239. # [18:01] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: That's why I thought about appending that acc.description at the *very* end of what gets spoken for a link, even after the text retrieved from the sub tree.
  240. # [18:02] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: So we would mimic the behavior NVDA exhibits when tabbing through a page: It also ready inner text first, and if there's a title, which is our acc.description, appends it at the very end.
  241. # [18:02] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, yeah. not really possible now
  242. # [18:06] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, in some future version I would like to have the descriptions spoken last, then it would work
  243. # [18:06] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, but the current design would make it hard to speak the description first except for a few cases
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  248. # [18:20] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: OK. Would you mind landing the patch alongside your skip link one?
  249. # [18:31] <@MarcoZ> OK, off for the weekend. See you later!
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  252. # [18:36] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 629020 on bug 759736.
  253. # [18:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=759736 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, Add VO-only mode for FF a11y on mac.
  254. # [18:47] <@askalski> davidb, C<->Python extensions are currently working only with visual studio 2008, the 2010 is unsupported
  255. # [18:48] <@askalski> davidb, so I am already working on 2008, but just so you know
  256. # [18:48] <@davidb> ok
  257. # [18:50] <@tbsaunde> kso, possibly crazy question, but would it be easier to just write tests in c++?
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  259. # [19:02] <@davidb> fair question
  260. # [19:02] <@davidb> i think it *might* be harder to integrate with the mozbase vision
  261. # [19:10] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled feedback?(surkov.alexander@ gmail.com) for attachment 627762 on bug 445516.
  262. # [19:10] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 629228 on bug 445516.
  263. # [19:10] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=445516 nor, --, ---, andrew.quartey, ASSI, Support auto-generated=true text attribute on list bullets
  264. # [19:11] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I could believe that, on the other hand I'd be suprised if it didn't make poking at msaa / ia2 easier
  265. # [19:11] <@davidb> for sure
  266. # [19:12] <@askalski> tbsaunde, davidb, mozbase is written in python
  267. # [19:13] * @davidb nods
  268. # [19:13] <@tbsaunde> it would also sovle whatever weird compiler version issue askalski had since we could write a C entry point, and I'll be shoked if msvc's C abi has changed ever
  269. # [19:13] <@askalski> tbsaunde, davidb, true, it would be easier to do it in c++ or better scala, and it would be much more reliable to have it static typed, but blame the a-team
  270. # [19:13] <@tbsaunde> askalski: sure, but at some point you have to call native code right?
  271. # [19:13] <@askalski> tbsaunde, tell me, I am compiling "hello world" extension for an hour now
  272. # [19:14] <@askalski> tbsaunde, well, I did that via ctypes/comtypes
  273. # [19:14] <@askalski> tbsaunde, and it worked to a point
  274. # [19:14] <@askalski> tbsaunde, but it fails *always* on win7
  275. # [19:14] <@tbsaunde> askalski: that is ... bad
  276. # [19:14] <@askalski> tbsaunde, so I am back to "do the calls in c++, export results to python"
  277. # [19:14] <@askalski> tbsaunde, so today I read the python-C-bindings docs, and discover how much it sucks
  278. # [19:14] <@tbsaunde> askalski: not sure I follow
  279. # [19:15] <@askalski> tbsaunde, I will write a C++ extension, that do the calls natively, and wrap the results to python types and export it to python
  280. # [19:15] <@tbsaunde> askalski: so, if I define a function extern "C" int foo(int bar) { ... return x; }
  281. # [19:15] <@tbsaunde> how hard is it to call that from python
  282. # [19:16] <@askalski> tbsaunde, well, theoretically speaking, it's doable. you load library, lookup the name, embed arguments to c_int type, pass it, unwrap the results from c_int type
  283. # [19:17] <@askalski> tbsaunde, the problem starts when you have method like
  284. # [19:17] <@askalski> tbsaunde, int foo(char * result) { return memcpy("hello", result); }
  285. # [19:18] <@askalski> tbsaunde, ctypes provide method to pass something by reference, but in windows 7 it frees memory TWICE after doing that
  286. # [19:18] <@askalski> tbsaunde, and everything blows up
  287. # [19:18] <@tbsaunde> askalski: ok, so lets not do that :)
  288. # [19:19] <@askalski> tbsaunde, so you can do a static call to malloc, get a pointer to allocated memory, pass it not-by-reference, get result back, free memory doing another c-call to free() ...
  289. # [19:19] <@askalski> tbsaunde, but what's the point?
  290. # [19:19] <@askalski> tbsaunde, I figured out that doing normal calls and returning python strings will be easier
  291. # [19:19] <@tbsaunde> askalski: so, what if we write a foo() that takes an int specifying the number of the test too run, and returns 0 or 1 if that test passed
  292. # [19:20] <@tbsaunde> then you have an array of function pointers each pointing at a test
  293. # [19:20] <@tbsaunde> I'm not really sure how we deal with events though yet
  294. # [19:20] <@askalski> tbsaunde, and then write all tests in c++ and embed it as huge extension to python...
  295. # [19:20] <@askalski> tbsaunde, well, that's doable
  296. # [19:20] <@tbsaunde> askalski: yup
  297. # [19:21] <@askalski> tbsaunde, well ,there is a tiny point of writing in python
  298. # [19:21] <@tbsaunde> arguably gross, but imho not that bd
  299. # [19:21] <@askalski> tbsaunde, it's super expressive, so tests are short. you have xpath out of box, marionette-client provides really clean api to pilot firefox etc
  300. # [19:22] <@askalski> tbsaunde, so there is a seriously useful framework in mozbase
  301. # [19:22] <@askalski> tbsaunde, I think that some kind of C binding is inevitable, but the shorter it is the better
  302. # [19:22] <@askalski> tbsaunde, and I guess that just wrapping IAccessible will be the narrowest one that gives us what we need
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  304. # [19:23] <@askalski> tbsaunde, provided that I will somehow fix the compiler errors in "hello world extension"
  305. # [19:23] <@askalski> :D
  306. # [19:23] <@tbsaunde> askalski: its not clear to me that shorter is better, especially if it takes longer
  307. # [19:24] <@tbsaunde> if you need to minipulate firefox a bit before running a test you could write some python to setup firefox, and then call RunTest(<number of test>)
  308. # [19:26] <@askalski> tbsaunde, you have some point, I will discuss that with David, but thing is, that no matter which approach is taken, getting 'hello world' working is the deal breaker :D
  309. # [19:27] <@askalski> tbsaunde, so I will just go back to work :), thanks for suggestion
  310. # [19:27] <@tbsaunde> askalski: true
  311. # [19:28] <@askalski> tbsaunde, anyway, the lesson learnt is
  312. # [19:28] <@askalski> tbsaunde, avoid python
  313. # [19:29] <@askalski> tbsaunde, it's like trying to get working Crysis 2 on GentooAlt/FreeBSD via experimental Wine using alternative compiler
  314. # [19:31] <@askalski> tbsaunde, while riding a bike on moon
  315. # [19:31] <@askalski> tbsaunde, of some exo-solar planet
  316. # [19:31] <@askalski> tbsaunde, in space
  317. # [19:32] <@askalski> tbsaunde, with no internet
  318. # [19:35] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 629235 on bug 757392.
  319. # [19:35] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 757392 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  320. # [19:35] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757392 cri, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, crash in nsIDocument::GetRootElement mainly with JAWS 11
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  324. # [20:00] <@davidb> you should never ride a bike with no internet
  325. # [20:06] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 629235 on bug 757392.
  326. # [20:06] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 629249 on bug 757392.
  327. # [20:06] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757392 cri, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, crash in nsIDocument::GetRootElement mainly with JAWS 11
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  332. # [20:37] <@askalski> davidb, problem
  333. # [20:37] <@askalski> davidb, you there
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  335. # [20:37] <@askalski> davidb, ?
  336. # [20:38] <@davidb> askalski: hi
  337. # [20:38] <@askalski> davidb, hi. I need visual studio 2008 pro to make modules to python for windows 7
  338. # [20:39] <@davidb> that's mean
  339. # [20:39] <@askalski> davidb, specifically 2008 since 2010 is not supported, and professional, since express do not provide 64bit compiler which is super weird
  340. # [20:39] <@davidb> very strange
  341. # [20:39] <@askalski> davidb, tried everything
  342. # [20:39] <@davidb> can you compile 32bit windows 7?
  343. # [20:40] <@askalski> davidb, hmm
  344. # [20:40] <@askalski> davidb, second
  345. # [20:41] <@askalski> davidb, nope, since python has been compiled in 64, and I need to link some of it's libraries
  346. # [20:42] <@askalski> davidb, I have a terrible idea
  347. # [20:42] <@davidb> (i'm worried there is a deep problem here - since the com types lib also failed)
  348. # [20:42] <@askalski> davidb, try windows 32 bit python on win7
  349. # [20:42] <@davidb> why is that terrible?
  350. # [20:43] <@askalski> davidb, because it came too me this late
  351. # [20:43] <@askalski> *to me
  352. # [20:43] <@askalski> davidb, trying it right now
  353. # [20:43] <@davidb> well i was wondering the same
  354. # [20:43] <@davidb> ok
  355. # [20:47] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 760064 from --- to mozilla15.
  356. # [20:47] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=760064 nor, --, mozilla15, surkov.alexander, NEW, don't include NotificationController.h into headers
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  362. # [21:01] <@askalski> davidb, works
  363. # [21:01] <@davidb> great
  364. # [21:01] <@askalski> davidb, sorry for not thinking about it earlier
  365. # [21:01] <@davidb> askalski: was this the problem with the other lib too?
  366. # [21:01] <@askalski> davidb, hmm, it's fuzzy to me what is 'another lib'
  367. # [21:02] <@davidb> askalski: the thing that doesn't work and for which plan B is to use the hammer
  368. # [21:02] <@askalski> davidb, I was browsing so much posibilities to this point, I can't really recall
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  370. # [21:02] <@davidb> i don't recall the name of the lib
  371. # [21:02] <@askalski> davidb, yes, the original code, that worked on winXP works out of box on win 7 64, as long as python is 32 bits, and all dependencies as well
  372. # [21:02] <@askalski> davidb, all IAccessible pointers are 32 bit etc
  373. # [21:03] <@davidb> i see
  374. # [21:04] <@askalski> davidb, so I don't know if it's a success or failure. I could have thought about it earlier
  375. # [21:04] <@askalski> davidb, but stuff works now
  376. # [21:05] <@askalski> davidb, so, should I deploy it now to Arthur?
  377. # [21:05] <@davidb> sure!
  378. # [21:05] <@davidb> :)
  379. # [21:06] <@davidb> i seem to recall discussing 64 bit with you but i think you had to make that jump to realizing what the python libs are compiled in… good that you made that jump.
  380. # [21:09] <@askalski> davidb, I guess I must have misunderstood the idea, thinking that you mean 64 build of Firefox, which - for what I know - is strongly experimental
  381. # [21:14] <@davidb> i was probably thinking about something possibly also unimportant… like the iaccessible marshalling dll. but anyways - onward! :)
  382. # [21:25] <@askalski> davidb, take a look on arthur
  383. # [21:26] <@davidb> 2 mins
  384. # [21:26] <@askalski> davidb, I will be finishing for today right after that, it's 9:20 PM here
  385. # [21:27] <@davidb> askalski: should i run testXML_test?
  386. # [21:27] <@askalski> davidb, yes, it refreshes testXML_output.xml
  387. # [21:28] <@davidb> nice - works for me
  388. # [21:28] <@davidb> have a nice weekend and thanks :)
  389. # [21:28] <@davidb> askalski: be sure to update github
  390. # [21:29] <@askalski> davidb, my pleasure, nice it started working, and once again sorry for debuging so long
  391. # [21:29] <@askalski> davidb, true, my home version is a little more advanced now
  392. # [21:29] <@davidb> bet you learned a lot
  393. # [21:29] <@davidb> ok
  394. # [21:29] <@askalski> davidb, I will come back to it for a moment during weekend
  395. # [21:29] <@askalski> davidb, but now I need to go
  396. # [21:29] <@askalski> davidb, bye
  397. # [21:29] <@davidb> cvciao
  398. # [21:29] <@davidb> ciao
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  405. # [21:31] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=760291 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, ui.key.accelKey FF 13b6+ Linux 32 bit over X11 to OSX Lion is broken
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