/irc-logs / mozilla / #accessibility / 2012-06-27 / end

Options:

  1. # Session Start: Wed Jun 27 00:00:00 2012
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
  3. # [00:06] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
  4. # [00:15] * Quits: margle (margle@moz-75218163.dsl.mweb.co.za) (Quit: Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/)
  5. # [00:18] <hub> deadlock nit.
  6. # [00:18] <hub> interesting
  7. # [00:21] <@tbsaunde> hub: ?
  8. # [00:28] <hub> the order of the constant eXULDeckAccessible
  9. # [00:28] <hub> Alex asked to have them in alphabetical order
  10. # [00:28] <hub> you seem to want them in a different order
  11. # [00:29] <hub> in bug 750612
  12. # [00:29] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750612 maj, --, ---, hub, NEW, [Mac] Too much is exposed to VoiceOver that is actually not currently visible/interactable
  13. # [00:31] <@tbsaunde> hub: yeah, and to be in alphebitical order it should be eXULTree then eXULDeck, which I'm pretty sure was the oposite in your patch
  14. # [00:42] <hub> D comes before T
  15. # [00:42] <hub> which is the order I put them in
  16. # [00:42] <hub> eXULDeck comes before eXULTree
  17. # [01:01] <@tbsaunde> hub: oh, hm, I was sure I saw it the other, sorry
  18. # [01:04] <hub> no problem
  19. # [01:53] * Quits: @firebot (firebot@moz-F8C1AF63.carolina.res.rr.com) (Ping timeout)
  20. # [01:55] * Joins: firebot (firebot@moz-F8C1AF63.carolina.res.rr.com)
  21. # [01:55] * ChanServ sets mode: +o firebot
  22. # [02:24] * Quits: @firebot (firebot@moz-F8C1AF63.carolina.res.rr.com) (Ping timeout)
  23. # [02:26] * Joins: firebot (firebot@moz-F8C1AF63.carolina.res.rr.com)
  24. # [02:26] * ChanServ sets mode: +o firebot
  25. # [03:28] * Quits: ehsan (ehsan@F2D29657.F60B0462.67AC9B1.IP) (Input/output error)
  26. # [03:44] * Joins: ehsan (ehsan@BEDFFF26.EE049E25.8B035CD7.IP)
  27. # [03:49] * Quits: scott_gonzalez (scott_gonz@moz-44AB6E75.nc.res.rr.com) (Ping timeout)
  28. # [03:51] * Joins: scott_gonzalez (scott_gonz@moz-44AB6E75.nc.res.rr.com)
  29. # [04:13] * Quits: ehsan (ehsan@BEDFFF26.EE049E25.8B035CD7.IP) (Input/output error)
  30. # [04:16] * Joins: ehsan (ehsan@BEDFFF26.EE049E25.8B035CD7.IP)
  31. # [04:25] * Quits: @firebot (firebot@moz-F8C1AF63.carolina.res.rr.com) (Ping timeout)
  32. # [04:25] * Joins: firebot (firebot@moz-F8C1AF63.carolina.res.rr.com)
  33. # [04:25] * ChanServ sets mode: +o firebot
  34. # [04:25] * Quits: scott_gonzalez (scott_gonz@moz-44AB6E75.nc.res.rr.com) (Quit: scott_gonzalez)
  35. # [04:44] * Quits: @firebot (firebot@moz-F8C1AF63.carolina.res.rr.com) (Ping timeout)
  36. # [04:45] * Joins: firebot (firebot@moz-F8C1AF63.carolina.res.rr.com)
  37. # [04:45] * ChanServ sets mode: +o firebot
  38. # [05:10] * khuey is now known as khuey|away
  39. # [05:13] * Quits: hub (hub@A5087023.2354C43D.D8E68FF6.IP) (Ping timeout)
  40. # [05:27] * Joins: MarcoZ (Daily@moz-2EE543F6.dip.t-dialin.net)
  41. # [05:27] * ChanServ sets mode: +o MarcoZ
  42. # [05:33] <@MarcoZ> Hi all!
  43. # [05:41] <@tbsaunde> MarcoZ: hi
  44. # [07:03] * Quits: @firebot (firebot@moz-F8C1AF63.carolina.res.rr.com) (Ping timeout)
  45. # [07:03] * Quits: peteb-away (ptbrunet@moz-E9B02845.austin.res.rr.com) (Client exited)
  46. # [07:06] * Joins: firebot (firebot@moz-F8C1AF63.carolina.res.rr.com)
  47. # [07:06] * ChanServ sets mode: +o firebot
  48. # [07:38] * Joins: hub (hub@moz-E2FCA694.figuiere.net)
  49. # [07:38] * ChanServ sets mode: +o hub
  50. # [08:01] * tbsaunde is now known as tbsaunde|afk
  51. # [08:22] * Joins: Stevef (chatzilla@moz-CD0F47B5.cable.virginmedia.com)
  52. # [08:37] * Quits: ehsan (ehsan@BEDFFF26.EE049E25.8B035CD7.IP) (Input/output error)
  53. # [08:47] * Quits: icaaq (Adium@C8B97E80.7DCD925.CE255B90.IP) (Connection reset by peer)
  54. # [09:01] * Quits: logbot (logbot@moz-58CB32ED.glob.com.au) (Client exited)
  55. # [09:01] * Joins: logbot (logbot@moz-58CB32ED.glob.com.au)
  56. # [09:02] * Joins: icaaq (Adium@714E29CB.13DB46CE.3B93FF6D.IP)
  57. # Session Close: Wed Jun 27 09:10:38 2012
  58. #
  59. # Session Start: Wed Jun 27 09:10:38 2012
  60. # Session Ident: #accessibility
  61. # [09:10] * Disconnected
  62. # [18:54] * Attempting to rejoin channel #accessibility
  63. # [18:54] * Rejoined channel #accessibility
  64. # [18:54] * Topic is '"build the web for everyone" | "Infinity: capella moved my cheese"'
  65. # [18:54] * Set by davidb on Tue May 29 15:54:15
  66. # [18:56] * Quits: atuljangra (Mibbit@8E1F4B2F.D9B7FFB4.780547CD.IP) (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  67. # [19:08] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
  68. # [19:39] * Quits: @firebot (firebot@moz-F8C1AF63.carolina.res.rr.com) (Ping timeout)
  69. # [19:42] * Joins: arky (arky@AF7DC6D0.D24049A3.396B22AD.IP)
  70. # [19:47] * Joins: firebot (firebot@moz-F8C1AF63.carolina.res.rr.com)
  71. # [19:47] * ChanServ sets mode: +o firebot
  72. # [20:02] * Quits: arky (arky@AF7DC6D0.D24049A3.396B22AD.IP) (Quit: Leaving)
  73. # [20:05] * Quits: @jprmc (jprmc@moz-5716BB66.red-88-7-119.staticip.rima-tde.net) (Ping timeout)
  74. # [20:20] <@davidb> ok! breathing.
  75. # [20:21] <@davidb> (meeting marathon over)
  76. # [20:24] <@hub> how did it go?
  77. # [20:29] <@davidb> good
  78. # [20:29] <@davidb> i need to translocate
  79. # [20:30] * Quits: @davidb (davidb@F2D29657.F60B0462.67AC9B1.IP) (Quit: davidb)
  80. # [20:35] * Joins: Justin_o_ (Justin_o@67828CC7.C1A51174.9D42CF23.IP)
  81. # [20:35] * Quits: Justin_o_ (Justin_o@67828CC7.C1A51174.9D42CF23.IP) (Quit: Justin_o_)
  82. # [20:36] * Quits: Justin_o (Justin_o@67828CC7.C1A51174.9D42CF23.IP) (Ping timeout)
  83. # [20:37] * Joins: Justin_o (Justin_o@5C0F34C7.A6295926.9D42CF23.IP)
  84. # [20:38] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 768997 filed by hub@mozilla.com.
  85. # [20:38] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=768997 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, nsAccUtils::IsTextInterfaceSupportCorrect() is too expensive and called too often in DEBUG
  86. # [20:44] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 637088 on bug 767705.
  87. # [20:44] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=767705 nor, --, ---, vinceyang15, ASSI, decomtaminate GetSelectedCells() on accessible tables
  88. # [20:51] * Quits: jhk (jhk@8E6C34C1.A3F9767A.1C37C358.IP) (Connection reset by peer)
  89. # [20:59] * Joins: jhk (jhk@8E6C34C1.A3F9767A.1C37C358.IP)
  90. # [21:16] * Joins: jprmc (jprmc@moz-3859BA3C.static.user.ono.com)
  91. # [21:16] * ChanServ sets mode: +o jprmc
  92. # [21:18] <@eeejay> "Jelly Bean should also be better for blind and partially sighted users. The operating system should be usable through a combination of gestures and speech, and can be paired with Bluetooth Braille devices."
  93. # [21:18] <@eeejay> just when i thought we were done...
  94. # [21:21] * Quits: jhk (jhk@8E6C34C1.A3F9767A.1C37C358.IP) (Quit: Leaving.)
  95. # [21:21] <@hub> eeejay: well, you'll have time to fix that up given how long it takes to see Android updates...
  96. # [21:21] <@eeejay> hub, too true..
  97. # [21:30] * Joins: richardschwerdtfeger (richardsch@moz-130F1494.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net)
  98. # [21:33] * ehsan is now known as ehsan-busy
  99. # [21:35] * Quits: Justin_o (Justin_o@5C0F34C7.A6295926.9D42CF23.IP) (Quit: Justin_o)
  100. # [21:36] * Joins: Justin_o (Justin_o@5C0F34C7.A6295926.9D42CF23.IP)
  101. # [21:36] * Quits: Justin_o (Justin_o@5C0F34C7.A6295926.9D42CF23.IP) (Input/output error)
  102. # [21:36] * Joins: Justin_o (Justin_o@67828CC7.C1A51174.9D42CF23.IP)
  103. # [21:41] * Joins: victorporof (victorporo@8338BC8D.AB163232.79933D60.IP)
  104. # [21:46] * Quits: richardschwerdtfeger (richardsch@moz-130F1494.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) (Quit: richardschwerdtfeger)
  105. # [21:51] * Quits: @firebot (firebot@moz-F8C1AF63.carolina.res.rr.com) (Ping timeout)
  106. # [21:58] * Joins: firebot (firebot@moz-F8C1AF63.carolina.res.rr.com)
  107. # [21:58] * ChanServ sets mode: +o firebot
  108. # [22:23] * Quits: Justin_o (Justin_o@67828CC7.C1A51174.9D42CF23.IP) (Quit: Justin_o)
  109. # [22:27] <@hub> these popup that ask for permission like for the location, are they accessible?
  110. # [22:51] * Parts: clown (clown@67828CC7.C1A51174.9D42CF23.IP)
  111. # [23:00] <@tbsaunde> hub: what popups?
  112. # [23:02] <@hub> tbsaunde: the one that ask if you want to share location, for example
  113. # [23:02] <@hub> it is anchored to the URL bar
  114. # [23:02] <@hub> from an a11y point of view it is like an alert
  115. # [23:03] <@hub> but I could figure out, as in the DOM inspector they don't appear to have text, at least when hidden
  116. # [23:06] <@tbsaunde> hub: is this in mobile? I don't think I've seen tht before
  117. # [23:07] <@hub> tbsaunde: it is on desktop
  118. # [23:07] <@hub> tbsaunde: I think Mobile has that too
  119. # [23:07] <@hub> I'm asking because I was talking to rillian about WebRTC and accessibility, and they use that to seek permission to use the camera
  120. # [23:09] <@tbsaunde> hub: oh, is it like the save password one?
  121. # [23:12] <@hub> tbsaunde: I believe so
  122. # [23:17] <@tbsaunde> hub: yeah, afaik those aren't perfect but work
  123. # [23:17] <@tbsaunde> I think it might be a little tricky to reread the question with orca, because of orca bugs with flat review that are blocked on our bugs
  124. # [23:18] <@tbsaunde> but I think they're certainly an acceptable way of doing things
  125. # [23:24] <@hub> btw they are called doorhangers I just learned
  126. # [23:26] * Joins: davidb (davidb@moz-68BF56A6.dsl.bell.ca)
  127. # [23:26] * ChanServ sets mode: +qo davidb davidb
  128. # [23:28] <@davidb> tbsaunde: hey you around?
  129. # [23:31] * Joins: atu (Mibbit@8E1F4B2F.D9B7FFB4.780547CD.IP)
  130. # [23:36] <@tbsaunde> davidb: hi
  131. # [23:36] <@davidb> tbsaunde: hey can you call my cell?
  132. # [23:37] <@tbsaunde> davidb: sure
  133. # [23:37] * Quits: atu (Mibbit@8E1F4B2F.D9B7FFB4.780547CD.IP) (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  134. # [23:37] * Joins: atuljangra (Mibbit@8E1F4B2F.D9B7FFB4.780547CD.IP)
  135. # [23:44] <@hub> now I need to figure out how to enable a11y with the d-pad
  136. # [23:48] * Joins: icaaq (Adium@C8B97E80.7DCD925.CE255B90.IP)
  137. # [23:54] * Quits: atuljangra (Mibbit@8E1F4B2F.D9B7FFB4.780547CD.IP) (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  138. # [23:56] <@hub> davidb: I would like to know if you have an opinion about that and know about this initiative http://www.liberal.ca/essential-accessibility/ (politics aside)
  139. # [23:59] <@davidb> i need to read that
  140. # [23:59] <@davidb> can't look atm
  141. # Session Close: Thu Jun 28 00:00:00 2012

The end :)