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  1. # Session Start: Sat Jul 07 00:00:00 2012
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  10. # [00:56] <atuljangra> Galaxy S III is great :)
  11. # [01:02] <@hub> too big
  12. # [01:02] <@hub> also it has Samsung junkware on it
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  17. # [01:44] <capella> hub: what would you suggest? and can't I trash the junkware?
  18. # [01:45] <capella> must have: call filter whitelist.... not in my contacts? straight to voicemail !
  19. # [01:47] * @tbsaunde hates voicemail
  20. # [01:48] <capella> you'd be pre-approved
  21. # [01:49] <capella> looking at android open source projects...
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  23. # [01:50] <@tbsaunde> capella: sure, I still hate checking voice mails people leave me though ;)
  24. # [01:51] <capella> oh! then if not in contacts, straight to "hang up" :D
  25. # [01:52] <@tbsaunde> more precisely its anoying to remember to check, so if you can't actually reach me your better off sending email, and when I get other peoples voicemails I'm caught off guard since the branch predictor expected to recieve a human
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  27. # [01:57] <capella> tbsaunde: you were off today?
  28. # [02:15] <@hub> capella: the less bad is Galaxy Nexus. Pure Google experience
  29. # [02:15] <@tbsaunde> capella: yeah, was traveling, didn't get much sleep
  30. # [02:15] <@hub> capella: but given how Google abandonned nexus one 22 month after, even that makes me not confident
  31. # [02:15] <@tbsaunde> hub: so only the effects of one evil empire not two?
  32. # [02:15] <capella> hehehehe
  33. # [02:16] <@hub> tbsaunde: it is not about evilness, it is about quality.
  34. # [02:16] <@hub> tbsaunde: Samsung does not fix android, it make it worse
  35. # [02:16] <@hub> and fragments it
  36. # [02:17] <@eeejay> i hate the size of the displays
  37. # [02:17] <@eeejay> i want something 3 inches or less
  38. # [02:17] <@eeejay> but with all the great specs
  39. # [02:17] <@hub> Galaxy Note 2 rumored to have 5.5 inches
  40. # [02:17] <@eeejay> it is idiotic
  41. # [02:17] <@hub> eeejay: that's why I had no incentive to upgrade
  42. # [02:18] <@hub> Galaxy Nexus is too big
  43. # [02:18] <@eeejay> the whole display size categories in this industry are stupid
  44. # [02:18] <@hub> eeejay: better phrase: most of this industry is stupid
  45. # [02:18] <@eeejay> if they decided that 7" is such a great tablet size, then they could give us a break, and not make us carry home cinemas in our pockets
  46. # [02:18] <@hub> and suffer from Stockholm syndrom
  47. # [02:18] <@eeejay> yeah
  48. # [02:19] <@eeejay> i want to blo about it, but it will just be white whine
  49. # [02:19] <@eeejay> glog
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  51. # [02:20] <@hub> eeejay: I can blog it for you
  52. # [02:20] <@eeejay> if samsung had huevos, they would innovate by offering 7" tablets, and 3" phones. instead of thinking bigger is better
  53. # [02:20] <@hub> people are use to me whine
  54. # [02:20] <@eeejay> hub, true :)
  55. # [02:20] <@eeejay> j/k
  56. # [02:20] <@hub> eeejay: they have a 7" tablet
  57. # [02:21] <capella> is looking for a cross between phone and laptop ... doesnt need to be huge ... just functional ... and do mozilla
  58. # [02:21] <capella> and not terribly consumer oriented ... no siri sillyness ... no commercials to "lets go shopping" and "shopping is fun!"
  59. # [02:21] <@hub> eeejay: no. true. not kidding
  60. # [02:21] <@eeejay> hub, yeah. but they should commit to that catagory
  61. # [02:21] <@hub> eeejay: Samsung does not commit to a category. which is their problem
  62. # [02:21] <@hub> huge R&D cost
  63. # [02:21] <@eeejay> right
  64. # [02:22] <@eeejay> i saw the galaxy chat, and was tempted for a second
  65. # [02:22] <@eeejay> but they undersell it as a "budget" phone
  66. # [02:22] <@hub> probably slow as hell
  67. # [02:22] <@eeejay> yeah
  68. # [02:22] <@hub> and will probably crippple on updates
  69. # [02:22] <@eeejay> and low ppi
  70. # [02:22] <@hub> I just wish Nokia hadn't screwed the pooch for 8 years
  71. # [02:22] <@hub> (or more)
  72. # [02:22] <@eeejay> i just want something the size and weight as the candy bar nokia i had 10 years ago
  73. # [02:23] <@hub> even the SGS2 is too big
  74. # [02:23] <@eeejay> yup
  75. # [02:23] <@eeejay> the first nexus is a good size
  76. # [02:23] <@eeejay> i would start there and go smaller
  77. # [02:23] <@hub> but abandonned software wise
  78. # [02:23] <@hub> by Google
  79. # [02:23] <@hub> and HTC
  80. # [02:23] <@hub> 22 month
  81. # [02:23] <@eeejay> yeah
  82. # [02:24] <@eeejay> cm makes is good though, no?
  83. # [02:24] <@hub> no cm
  84. # [02:24] <@hub> beyond GB
  85. # [02:24] <@hub> I still use stock GB
  86. # [02:24] <@eeejay> hm
  87. # [02:24] <capella> ya'll are talking smartphones tho ... i want a little closer to laptop world without being a tablet
  88. # [02:24] <capella> WIN8 is gonna be too metro-sexual for me ... not enough 'puter left showing
  89. # [02:24] <@hub> capella: MacBook Air *cough*
  90. # [02:24] <capella> ack!
  91. # [02:25] <@eeejay> what about those acer tablets?
  92. # [02:25] <@hub> no idea, but acer already scare me :-/
  93. # [02:25] <@eeejay> capella, an ultrabook?
  94. # [02:25] <capella> hmmm ... not a phone?
  95. # [02:26] <@eeejay> capella, what are you looking for?
  96. # [02:26] <capella> a dick tracy phone / laptop wristwatch :D
  97. # [02:26] <@eeejay> oh!
  98. # [02:26] <@eeejay> that would be awesome
  99. # [02:26] <@eeejay> i would buy that
  100. # [02:26] <capella> galaxy IIIs may be too big tho
  101. # [02:27] <@hub> also buying phone from carriers
  102. # [02:27] <@hub> that's a 3rd level of crap on it
  103. # [02:27] <capella> YES!
  104. # [02:27] <@hub> (unless it is iPhone)
  105. # [02:36] <capella> hmmm android wants me to learn java
  106. # [02:39] <capella> no ... wait, they do c++ also now
  107. # [02:39] <@tbsaunde> hub: in which case your stuck with the crap apple decided was good for you
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  109. # [02:43] <@hub> tbsaunde: better quality crap ;-)
  110. # [02:45] <@tbsaunde> hub: maybe, I've never really used one
  111. # [02:45] <@tbsaunde> and don't really care since I refuse to buy an IOS device
  112. # [02:52] <@hub> that's a point of view I respect
  113. # [02:52] <@hub> my point is that Samsung should just stay away of software
  114. # [02:52] <@hub> as they don't know about it
  115. # [02:52] <@hub> (or better, hired talented people to do it)
  116. # [02:53] <@tbsaunde> I'm absolutely ok with that
  117. # [02:53] <@tbsaunde> I'd prefer verison not go any where near software rather than hire people who don't suck
  118. # [02:54] <@tbsaunde> in fact I sort of prefer people who suck, since then its hopefully easier to undo what they put road blocks in the way of
  119. # [02:54] * @tbsaunde looks at verisons tethering stuff angrily
  120. # [02:55] <@hub> tbsaunde: yeah carrier are even worse. but the Stockholm syndrom comes from the phone vendor that let them do so
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  125. # [03:47] <@tbsaunde> a3a/win 23
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  127. # [03:56] <capella> http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3pfz0x/
  128. # [04:57] <@davidb> heh
  129. # [05:13] <capella> http://verydemotivational.memebase.com/2012/04/10/demotivational-posters-history-2/
  130. # [05:14] <@davidb> haha
  131. # [05:14] <capella> HAHAHAHA this is fun
  132. # [05:26] <@davidb> ok ttfn
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  159. # [16:17] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com denied in-testsuite on bug 761910.
  160. # [16:17] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=761910 nor, --, ---, andrew.quartey, ASSI, add text attributes testing for HTML5 mark color
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  175. # [21:08] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 761910 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  176. # [21:08] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 761910 to FIXED.
  177. # [21:08] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 761910 from --- to mozilla16.
  178. # [21:08] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=761910 nor, --, mozilla16, andrew.quartey, RESO FIXED, add text attributes testing for HTML5 mark color
  179. # [21:11] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 762770 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  180. # [21:11] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 762770 to FIXED.
  181. # [21:11] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=762770 nor, --, mozilla16, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, implement IAccessibleEx
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