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  1. # Session Start: Thu Aug 02 00:00:01 2012
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  9. # [01:47] <drexler> tbsaunde: are you working on bug 767756 ?
  10. # [01:47] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=767756 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, try implementing ISimpleDOMNode with a tear off
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  26. # [04:50] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 779386 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  27. # [04:50] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 779386 to FIXED.
  28. # [04:50] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 779386 from --- to mozilla17.
  29. # [04:50] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=779386 nor, --, mozilla17, nobody, RESO FIXED, Clean up some includes in a11y
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  72. # [11:41] <@firebot> ayg@aryeh.name changed the Target Milestone on bug 779091 from --- to mozilla17.
  73. # [11:41] <@firebot> ayg@aryeh.name denied in-testsuite on bug 779091.
  74. # [11:42] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=779091 enh, --, mozilla17, ayg, ASSI, Fix incorrect nsresult usage in accessible/
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  78. # [13:30] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set status-firefox16 to affected on bug 733848.
  79. # [13:30] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set status-firefox17 to affected on bug 733848.
  80. # [13:31] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set status-firefox14 to wontfix on bug 733848.
  81. # [13:31] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk set status-firefox15 to affected on bug 733848.
  82. # [13:31] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk cancelled status-firefox12 on bug 733848.
  83. # [13:31] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=733848 nor, --, mozilla14, surkov.alexander, REOP, Intermittent failures in a11y/accessible/name/test_markup.html | Can't get accessible for [object HT
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  87. # [14:55] <@firebot> bmo@edmorley.co.uk requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 648321 on bug 733848.
  88. # [14:55] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=733848 nor, --, mozilla14, surkov.alexander, REOP, Intermittent failures in a11y/accessible/name/test_markup.html | Can't get accessible for [object HT
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  93. # [15:43] <@firebot> jmathies@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 779645 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  94. # [15:44] <@firebot> jmathies@mozilla.com set the Resolution field on bug 779645 to INVALID.
  95. # [15:44] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=779645 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO INVALID, dangling ptr crash w/ uia in NotificationController::ContentInsertion::Process
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  120. # [18:37] <@marcoz> eeejay: Hi! Are you around yet?
  121. # [18:37] <@eeejay> marcoz, yo yo
  122. # [18:38] <@marcoz> eeejay: Cool! :) Am I right in assuming that only the update of the SDK is blocking you from landing the Jelly Bean stuff?
  123. # [18:38] <@eeejay> marcoz, true
  124. # [18:38] <@eeejay> marcoz, thanks for reminding me
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  126. # [18:39] <@marcoz> eeejay: Yeah, I sent a ping on the bug today, but it might be good if you know who's responsible if you could follow up directly, so we can get moving. We're over two weeks in the cycle, and I'd like to have some testing time for this biggie. :)
  127. # [18:40] <@eeejay> marcoz, true true
  128. # [18:40] <@eeejay> marcoz, looks like it is coop, be he is never on irc
  129. # [18:40] <@eeejay> marcoz, do you know any other release drivers?
  130. # [18:41] <@marcoz> You could ping lsblakk.
  131. # [18:41] <@marcoz> She might know who we can ask. Or we could ask in the channel. Hm, is it #build or some other? They changed it recently.
  132. # [18:42] <@marcoz> eeejay: ^
  133. # [18:43] <@eeejay> marcoz, cool. thanks, i'll ping them
  134. # [18:45] <@eeejay> marcoz, pinged lsblakk in #build
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  136. # [18:47] <@marcoz> eeejay: Just joined and saw her reply.
  137. # [18:49] <@marcoz> eeejay: Not sure if you're watching me or the components of Firefox for Android, but I just am waiting for a patch to fix the contentDescription of the Go/Search button. Bug 779448.
  138. # [18:49] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=779448 nor, --, ---, marco.zehe, ASSI, Add contentDescription to the "go" image button (the right-pointing arrow)
  139. # [18:49] <@marcoz> s/patch/patch review/
  140. # [18:50] <@eeejay> marcoz, awesome. weird, i thought that was originally committed with correct descriptions
  141. # [18:50] <@eeejay> marcoz, i'll subscrie to all of those product's "access" bugs
  142. # [18:50] <@marcoz> eeejay: I think it got changed. It now dynamically changes its image depending on whether an URL is opened or a search is performed.
  143. # [18:51] <@marcoz> And I found it while swiping through the UI on Jelly Bean. :)
  144. # [18:51] <@eeejay> marcoz, ah, i get it. i got confused with find in page
  145. # [18:51] <@marcoz> Find In Page works nicely.
  146. # [18:52] <@marcoz> eeejay: Just wondering if there are any other such dynamic UI pieces. For such a small screen, Firefox has a lot going on in that upper quarter of the screen. :)
  147. # [18:53] <@eeejay> marcoz, true! it is a nightmare. i think the d-pad nav order is not always right either
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  149. # [18:53] <@marcoz> eeejay: Yeah, sometimes it is a bit weird, but OK for the most part I think.
  150. # [18:54] <@marcoz> eeejay: I also recently managed to make all those toolbar items that were originally menu items accessible, see bug 758431. So on tablets, one can now bookmark pages etc.
  151. # [18:54] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758431 nor, --, Firefox 17, marco.zehe, RESO FIXED, [TABLET] Accessibility strings for Tablet URL bar.
  152. # [18:55] <@eeejay> marcoz, yeah. i saw that. nice!
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  155. # [19:02] <fxa90id> hi :-)
  156. # [19:03] <@marcoz> eeejay: One more item that I found which Talkback announces as a button is the favicon. Does clicking that actually do anything, or is this just there for decoration and site identification? Clicking it does not produce any discernable action that I can identify.
  157. # [19:04] <@eeejay> marcoz, i don't believe it is clickable
  158. # [19:04] <@eeejay> marcoz, the d-pad patch i wrote skips it, but with ebt and jb gestures i guess that is not enough
  159. # [19:04] <@marcoz> eeejay: OK, then I won't bother with it for now.
  160. # [19:05] <@marcoz> eeejay: No, the swiping gesture doesn't bother with the d-pad order at all.
  161. # [19:05] <@marcoz> eeejay: Is there a way to mark something as not accessible in Android?
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  163. # [19:06] <@eeejay> marcoz, for the favicon, there is a way of marking it as not clickable, and then talkback should ignore it and not land on it
  164. # [19:06] <@marcoz> eeejay: OK, I think we should do that, then.
  165. # [19:06] <@eeejay> marcoz, i also noticed that the tabs button gets landed on twice
  166. # [19:06] <satdav_> hey guys is their any mozilla guide lines for the websites
  167. # [19:06] <@eeejay> haven't had time to dive in to toolbar issues, thanks for doing that
  168. # [19:07] <@marcoz> eeejay: No trouble at all! I'm learning a lot by doing this. :)
  169. # [19:08] <@eeejay> marcoz, cool :)
  170. # [19:08] <@marcoz> eeejay: Yes, and the menu button, too. Looks like the tabs thing gets swiped to even when it is invisible, I always am able to swipe to the "Synced tabs" item, for example. And I believe that is not visible at all times.
  171. # [19:08] <satdav_> marcoz, can you do ux
  172. # [19:09] <@eeejay> marcoz, yeah, that is not good
  173. # [19:09] <satdav_> as we need someone to look over a bug for a ux point of view
  174. # [19:09] <@eeejay> i am off to grab coffee and something to eat
  175. # [19:09] <@eeejay> cheers!
  176. # [19:10] <@marcoz> satdav_: Depends on what you mean. If it is something visual, no, because I'm totally blind. If it is something workflow oriented, then I probably can.
  177. # [19:12] <@marcoz> satdav_: Regarding web site accessibility guidelines, there is one set of guidelines, and it is called WCAG 2.0. Mozilla does not need any special ones, we should strive to be WCAG compliant.
  178. # [19:12] <satdav_> OK
  179. # [19:13] <satdav_> do you know anyone who can help with the visiual side of it
  180. # [19:14] <@marcoz> Mozilla has a full UX team. Someone there should be able to help with those visuals.
  181. # [19:14] <@marcoz> Ask in #ux
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  184. # [19:27] <fxa90id> sup sup ?
  185. # [19:42] <drexler> hi fxa90id
  186. # [19:43] <satdav_> hi fxa90id
  187. # [19:43] <fxa90id> hi
  188. # [19:43] <fxa90id> how it's going ?
  189. # [19:43] <satdav_> I am doing good
  190. # [19:44] <fxa90id> :-)
  191. # [19:51] <tbsaunde> drexler: hi, were you looking for me last night?
  192. # [19:52] <drexler> tbsaunde: yeah.
  193. # [19:52] <drexler> wanted to know whether you were working on bug 767756
  194. # [19:52] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=767756 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, try implementing ISimpleDOMNode with a tear off
  195. # [19:52] <tbsaunde> drexler: no
  196. # [19:53] <drexler> want to try that and learn a bit more of COM and accessibility in the process
  197. # [19:54] <tbsaunde> drexler: ok, it would be great
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  199. # [19:55] <tbsaunde> feel free to ask if you have questions
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  202. # [19:57] <drexler> sure..:)
  203. # [19:57] <drexler> :)
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  224. # [23:00] <@firebot> andrew.quartey@gmail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 648473 on bug 762897.
  225. # [23:00] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=762897 nor, --, ---, andrew.quartey, NEW, implement UIA_AriaPropertiesPropertyId
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