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  1. # Session Start: Sat Aug 18 00:00:02 2012
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  4. # [00:17] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 652865 on bug 772060.
  5. # [00:17] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=772060 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [Mac] After initial page load, first VoiceOver interaction with HTML content still very painfully sl
  6. # [00:17] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 652947 on bug 772060.
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  8. # [01:53] <tbsaunde> aleth: I still don't really understand what your saying you do or what we do in response
  9. # [01:53] <tbsaunde> aleth: can you provide code demonstrating what you do?
  10. # [01:54] <aleth> tbsaunde: Sure
  11. # [01:54] <aleth> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/blist.css#6 and line 12
  12. # [01:55] <aleth> The issue occurs when moving the selection in the richlistbox "#buddylistbox" that contains the contact bindings
  13. # [01:56] <aleth> The full bug report is here, if that helps - but you probably won't be familiar with Instantbird https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1626
  14. # [01:57] <aleth> (The contact.xml bindings extend richlistitem)
  15. # [01:58] <tbsaunde> aleth: ok, so let me see if I understand what's happening correctly
  16. # [01:58] <tbsaunde> you have a richlist box withyour wn xbl richlistitems in it
  17. # [01:58] <tbsaunde> when you change which item is selected you change the xbl binding used for the selected item
  18. # [01:59] <aleth> Yes
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  20. # [02:01] <aleth> The selected item is larger (and can be expanded...)
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  23. # [02:05] <tbsaunde> aleth: have you used dom inspector or something to see what DOM focus events happen?
  24. # [02:07] <aleth> How would you do that? I've only looked for specific events by adding focus handlers to the bindings... that didn't work since (I guess) focus remains with the richlistbox
  25. # [02:07] <tbsaunde> aleth: if what's happening is that the original bind and then the new one are what are getting focused that might be tricky to fix, I have no immediate idea other than to change the binding earlier before the old one gets focused
  26. # [02:09] <aleth> tbsaunde: What way to change the binding would be "earlier" than via CSS?
  27. # [02:10] <aleth> I don't know how to capture focus events with DOM Inspector - I didn't know that was possible.
  28. # [02:11] <tbsaunde> aleth: I'm not really sure, I'm not an expert on dom inspector, but it seems like it really should be possible
  29. # [02:11] <aleth> It's generally not great at tracking dynamic changes in my experience...
  30. # [02:11] <tbsaunde> aleth: you can certainly install handlers for accessibility events in the accessibility part of dom inspector, that may help you too
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  32. # [02:12] <aleth> Hmm, that might work
  33. # [02:12] <tbsaunde> I'm not clear on how to do it exactly, but I know surkov does, I think he may describe it in one of his blog posts (asurkov.blogspot.com)
  34. # [02:13] <aleth> Thanks!
  35. # [02:13] <aleth> Do you know why the reader says "frame" in response to the duplicate focus event?
  36. # [02:13] <tbsaunde> aleth: ok, hopefully the accessibility view stuff atleast lets you see what's going on more
  37. # [02:13] <aleth> I'm a bit puzzled by the whole thing, not having a screen reader to reproduce with...
  38. # [02:14] <tbsaunde> aleth: probably because the role of the accessible object being focused is document or frame
  39. # [02:14] <tbsaunde> aleth: you can download nvda at nvda-project.org I think its certainly free and open source
  40. # [02:14] <aleth> But Windows-only...
  41. # [02:15] <tbsaunde> aleth: oh, what are you using?
  42. # [02:15] <aleth> tbsaunde: "the role"? Does that imply that focus goes to the document as a whole for an instant? (there are no explicit frame elements)
  43. # [02:15] <aleth> Linux...
  44. # [02:16] <tbsaunde> aleth: it might
  45. # [02:16] <tbsaunde> aleth: you could try orca if you can get it going
  46. # [02:16] <tbsaunde> aleth: sorry, but I need to run off for 45 minutes or so, be back in a bit
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  48. # [02:16] <aleth> Thanks for taking a look! :)
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  58. # [03:19] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested review from dbolter@mozilla.com for attachment 653001 on bug 782974.
  59. # [03:19] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=782974 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Apple Accessibility API returns incomplete data with current Aurora and Nightly versions
  60. # [03:20] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com cancelled review?(dbolter@mozilla.com ) for attachment 653001 on bug 782974.
  61. # [03:21] <@hub> wrong bug #
  62. # [03:21] <@firebot> hub@mozilla.com requested review from dbolter@mozilla.com for attachment 653003 on bug 781090.
  63. # [03:21] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=781090 nor, --, ---, hub, NEW, Firefox no longer responds to Spectacle's keyboard shortcuts to resize application windows
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  72. # [04:33] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 783383 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  73. # [04:33] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 783383 to FIXED.
  74. # [04:33] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 783383 from --- to mozilla17.
  75. # [04:33] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=783383 cri, --, mozilla17, andrew.quartey, RESO FIXED, crash in nsBaseWidget::GetAccessible
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  99. # [11:15] <aleth> logbot: where are the logs?
  100. # [11:15] <logbot> aleth, found 0 results
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  105. # [13:37] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 780350 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  106. # [13:37] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 780350 to FIXED.
  107. # [13:37] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 780350 from --- to mozilla17.
  108. # [13:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780350 nor, --, mozilla17, eitan, RESO FIXED, [AccessFu] Introduce high-level touch gestures
  109. # [13:37] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 783084 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  110. # [13:37] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 783084 to FIXED.
  111. # [13:37] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 783084 from --- to mozilla17.
  112. # [13:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=783084 nor, --, mozilla17, eitan, RESO FIXED, [AccessFu] Enable accessfu when toggled in Gaia
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  118. # [14:39] <@firebot> deletesoftware+moz@yandex.ru changed the Status on bug 775144 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED.
  119. # [14:39] <@firebot> deletesoftware+moz@yandex.ru set the Resolution field on bug 775144 to DUPLICATE of bug 246237.
  120. # [14:39] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=775144 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Ctrl-backspace in location bar erases wrong part
  121. # [14:39] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=246237 nor, --, Firefox 2 beta1, nobody, NEW, Ctrl+Backspace in the address bar is incorrectly handled when browser.urlbar.autofill is true
  122. # [14:39] <@firebot> deletesoftware+moz@yandex.ru changed the Status on bug 777994 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  123. # [14:40] <@firebot> deletesoftware+moz@yandex.ru set the Resolution field on bug 777994 to DUPLICATE of bug 246237.
  124. # [14:40] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=777994 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Problem deleting a part of a URL with ctrl+backspace
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  143. # [20:01] <@firebot> matspal@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 783767 from Drag and Drop to Disability Access APIs.
  144. # [20:01] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=783767 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Draggable content vs clickable content
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