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  11. # [02:22] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 761853 from --- to FIXED.
  12. # [02:22] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 761853 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  13. # [02:23] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 761853 from --- to mozilla18.
  14. # [02:23] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=761853 nor, --, mozilla18, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, ARIA grid with rowgroup breaks table row/col counting and coordinates
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  18. # [02:36] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 786508 filed by aletheia2@fastmail.fm.
  19. # [02:36] <@firebot> Bug 786508 was not found.
  20. # [02:40] <@hub> bug 786508
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  42. # [05:55] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 786553 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  43. # [05:55] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786553 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, aria-relevant should be mapped to object attributes
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  51. # [07:43] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 786566 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  52. # [07:43] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786566 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, ARIA menuitem acting as submenu should have PARENT_MENUITEM role
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  76. # [10:12] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 786582 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  77. # [10:12] <@firebot> Bug 786582 was not found.
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  80. # [10:36] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 786587 filed by Coolikov.Alex@gmail.com.
  81. # [10:36] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786587 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, IAccessibleText::textAtOffset returns different results for IA2_TEXT_BOUNDARY_WORD
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  117. # [14:50] <@davidb> heyo
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  122. # [15:07] <@marcoz> Hi all!
  123. # [15:10] <@davidb> hi MarcoZ
  124. # [15:11] <@davidb> Stevef: when are html mapping meetings resuming?
  125. # [15:12] <Stevef> davidb: when cynthia gets back from hols after the 5th of sept i believe
  126. # [15:12] <@davidb> ok wfm
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  129. # [15:19] <@marcoz> For the life of me, I cannot reproduce the crash in bug 786340.
  130. # [15:19] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786340 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Tabs not re-aligning after tab drag. Ctrl + T over existing tab
  131. # [15:20] <@davidb> MarcoZ: maybe linux only?
  132. # [15:20] <@marcoz> Ah f*ck, wrong bug number.
  133. # [15:21] <@marcoz> davidb: I meant bug 786240.
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  135. # [15:21] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786240 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, java.lang.NullPointerException: at org.mozilla.gecko.GeckoAccessibility$3.run(GeckoAccessibility.jav
  136. # [15:22] <@marcoz> davidb: It runs fine for me for several minutes, and possibly even longer, and I quit and restart it several times, without seeing a crash at startup either.
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  139. # [15:43] <@davidb> that's bitter sweet
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  147. # [16:25] * @marcoz is currently quite glad he hasn't upgraded his Java RTE to the Oracle stuff on the Mac yet, still on the Apple-provided one. No security hole for me this time 'round. :)
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  151. # [16:35] <@marcoz> Meting in 5!
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  158. # [16:56] <@davidb> eeejay: to confirm… i'm going to hand this bug to trevor ok? 768243
  159. # [16:56] <@davidb> bug 768243
  160. # [16:56] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=768243 is not accessible
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  162. # [16:58] <@marcoz> The mystery caller identified herself on dev-planning. :) It was Karen Rudnitzki.
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  165. # [16:58] <@davidb> yeah cool
  166. # [16:58] <@davidb> i'm meeting with her in about an hour
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  172. # [17:01] <@marcoz> eeejay: I was saying to davidb earlier, I'm unable to reproduce the crash in bug 786240. I quit and restarted Nightly several times, both yesterday's and today's build, without it crashing on startup.
  173. # [17:01] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786240 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, java.lang.NullPointerException: at org.mozilla.gecko.GeckoAccessibility$3.run(GeckoAccessibility.jav
  174. # [17:01] <@marcoz> Sorry I'm of no help here! :(
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  176. # [17:02] <@eeejay> marcoz, no worries. i think i might write a patch and rationalize why it makes sense
  177. # [17:02] <@davidb> I think the deep problem (lifecycle/timing) is something Alexander is working on.
  178. # [17:02] <@davidb> but don't hold off on that work
  179. # [17:03] <@marcoz> eeejay: I just thought it might also be worth trying to find out who has experienced these crashes, and what their settings are, by sending a mail to the eyes-free list and tweeting about it.
  180. # [17:04] <@eeejay> marcoz, sure. makes sense
  181. # [17:04] <@marcoz> eeejay: OK, I'll send that e-mail and tweet.
  182. # [17:05] <@eeejay> marcoz, it is on jb
  183. # [17:07] <@davidb> MarcoZ: can you try the URL I pm'ed you first?
  184. # [17:08] <@marcoz> davidb: Argh, just saw your PM after sending the mail.
  185. # [17:09] <@davidb> s'ok
  186. # [17:09] <@marcoz> davidb: But we got two distinct users, so this might still help.
  187. # [17:10] <@davidb> yep
  188. # [17:19] <@marcoz> eeejay: davidb: It's also not web apps or the marketplace. They launch fine, too.
  189. # [17:19] <@davidb> ok
  190. # [17:36] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com changed the Assignee on bug 772782 from nobody@mozilla.org to surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  191. # [17:36] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=772782 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in DocAccessible::Shutdown @ NotificationController::Shutdown
  192. # [17:36] <@marcoz> Sheesh, Léonie Watson is looking for a good business case for HTML5 and asked me if Mozilla web sites would qualify. Our diverse site landscape is anything but coherent.....
  193. # [17:37] <@davidb> that's a work in progress
  194. # [17:38] <@davidb> we're not a typical business, so using us as a business case seems ...
  195. # [17:38] <@davidb> suboptimal
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  198. # [17:49] <@marcoz> davidb: That's what I told her.
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  201. # [17:51] <@askalski> hi everyone :)
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  203. # [17:52] <@tbsaunde> hi askalski
  204. # [17:53] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I had the vague impression the android crash has nothing to do with accessibles lifetime or stuff surkov does
  205. # [17:53] <@davidb> tbsaunde: i gathered that recently as well
  206. # [17:53] * @davidb is on vidyo meeting with karen
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  215. # [18:17] <@davidb> OK Karen seems solid
  216. # [18:17] <@davidb> I should say, her style seems solid. (I don't judge people)
  217. # [18:17] <@davidb> MarcoZ, eeejay would be neat to give her a preview of the videos if we can, since she is interested.
  218. # [18:18] <@davidb> she's excited to make a splash about a11y in 17
  219. # [18:18] <@davidb> and again later maybe at csun
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  224. # [18:35] <@marcoz> davidb: eeejay has all the materials. And it's great we have her on board! :)
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  230. # [19:02] <@davidb> yes
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  232. # [19:03] <@marcoz> OK, I think I'm calling it a night. See you tomorrow! And your sister a happy wedding, davidb!
  233. # [19:04] <@davidb> thanks!
  234. # [19:04] <@davidb> (it is tomorrow)
  235. # [19:04] <@marcoz> :)
  236. # [19:05] <@davidb> i'll be around half day on Friday
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  238. # [19:09] <@tbsaunde> davidb: Karen == ?
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  240. # [19:11] <@davidb> tbsaunde: android product manager
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