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  1. # Session Start: Wed Sep 12 00:00:00 2012
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  4. # [00:39] <satdav> hub, going to have a quick meeting in the accessibility room with rebecca the now if you are intrested about the sumo site
  5. # [00:49] <satdav> can we use this for a back channel
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  23. # [03:31] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 786143 from WONTFIX to ---.
  24. # [03:31] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 786143 from RESOLVED to REOPENED.
  25. # [03:31] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786143 nor, --, ---, nobody, REOP, inherit aria-hidden through subtree
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  44. # [11:30] <Stevef> marcoz: surkov: any thoughts on this enquiry i sent to IE team? http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Sep/0147.html in terms of have you thought about how such seamntics are going to be exposed by firefox on windows 8?
  45. # [11:31] <@surkov> hi, Stevef, I gotta go, I'll answer you later if you don't mind
  46. # [11:31] <Stevef> np no rush
  47. # [11:31] <@surkov> ok
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  49. # [12:05] <@firebot> New Firefox - Disability Access bug 790564 filed by anu.rocks13@gmail.com.
  50. # [12:05] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790564 cri, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Login
  51. # [12:12] <@firebot> cork@box.qzdev.se changed the Resolution on bug 790564 from --- to DUPLICATE.
  52. # [12:12] <@firebot> cork@box.qzdev.se changed the Status on bug 790564 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED.
  53. # [12:18] <@firebot> lmandel@mozilla.com changed the Component on bug 754416 from Telemetry to Disability Access APIs.
  54. # [12:18] <@firebot> lmandel@mozilla.com changed the Product on bug 754416 from Toolkit to Core.
  55. # [12:18] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754416 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Telemetry to find out what turns us on, err the accessibility engine on.
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  68. # [15:26] <@marcoz> Heyo davidb!
  69. # [15:27] <@davidb> heyo!
  70. # [15:31] <@marcoz> davidb: If you're interested, there was a discussion early this morning/late last night on Twitter between me, @cookiecrook and @pauljAdam regarding native vs. HTML5 and the accessibility implications.
  71. # [15:32] <@davidb> i saw a bit of that bit i couldn't get a conversation view
  72. # [15:32] <@marcoz> And once again, the point was raised that HTML accessibility is moving too slow to keep up with current developments on desktop and mobile APIs, etc. This all got started off by the Zuckerberg quote that HTML5 was Facebook's greatest strategy mistake on mobile.
  73. # [15:32] <@marcoz> Sigh!
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  75. # [15:33] <@marcoz> davidb: Oh! Yeah replies flew back and forth between the three of us.
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  77. # [15:35] <@marcoz> In me, this again brought up the frustration that WAI-ARIA is still not at final 1.0 stage, keeping a momentum of uncertainty around for many web devs. And the fact that, with HTML, one can simply do so many things wrong in terms of accessibility so easily.
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  93. # [16:40] <@davidb> tbsaunde: you joining?
  94. # [16:42] <@davidb> eeejay: linux client?
  95. # [16:42] <eeejay> yeah, one more try and then mac
  96. # [16:43] <@hub> nexus?
  97. # [16:43] <@hub> that's why I use the iPad
  98. # [16:46] <@tbsaunde> davidb: oh, yeah, one sec
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  101. # [17:52] <@marcoz> davidb: hub: eeejay: First draft of session proposal sent. :)
  102. # [17:53] <@marcoz> tbsaunde: ^
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  105. # [18:09] <eeejay> marcoz, good proposal
  106. # [18:09] <eeejay> i would definatly do a separate android one, if you think we could fill an hour with ff os
  107. # [18:09] <eeejay> an android one will be very practical since i am sure android web is a common frustration
  108. # [18:10] <@marcoz> Yeah, we could do two. You can add that to the discussion thread. :)
  109. # [18:10] <eeejay> marcoz, cool. i will :)
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  113. # [18:18] * @marcoz heads out. Dinner, then Apple evening as an Apple fan boy. :)
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  118. # [18:33] <@davidb> tbsaunde: ping, check PM please
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  120. # [18:41] <@davidb> tbsaunde: sent
  121. # [18:41] <@tbsaunde> davidb: thx
  122. # [18:41] <@davidb> np
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  134. # [19:11] <@davidb> !seen dveditz
  135. # [19:11] <@firebot> dveditz was last seen 1 day, 23 hours, 25 minutes and 34 seconds ago, saying 'I'll try your room' in #security.
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  140. # [20:13] <@davidb> hub: how's now?
  141. # [20:13] <@hub> should be good
  142. # [20:13] <@hub> just a sec
  143. # [20:14] <@davidb> ok
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  166. # [23:17] <satdav> davidb, ping
  167. # [23:17] <satdav> did you get the email i sent to you
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  169. # [23:56] <satdav> hub, ping
  170. # Session Close: Thu Sep 13 00:00:00 2012

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