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  1. # Session Start: Wed Sep 26 00:00:01 2012
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  22. # [03:06] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 739455 from --- to mozilla18.
  23. # [03:06] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739455 nor, --, mozilla18, surkov.alexander, ASSI, Intermittent TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | chrome://mochitests/content/a11y/accessible/tree/test_tabbrowser
  24. # [03:10] <@surkov> hi, tbsaunde
  25. # [03:13] <@tbsaunde> surkov: hi
  26. # [03:16] <@surkov> tbsaunde: thank you for reviews :)
  27. # [03:17] <@tbsaunde> surkov: np
  28. # [03:17] <@surkov> tbsaunde: one left : ) I'm curious if you missed bug 766112 or you need extra time for review
  29. # [03:18] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=766112 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, Intermittent accessible/events/test_docload.xul | uncaught JS exception - TypeError: currentTabDocum
  30. # [03:18] <@tbsaunde> surkov: no, I wanted to ask you how that test is supposed to work
  31. # [03:18] <@tbsaunde> I'm not sure I understand it
  32. # [03:19] <@surkov> tbsaunde: the problem is events comparison, since we may handle event of the same time then we compare targets
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  35. # [03:20] <@tbsaunde> surkov: so we expect a state change event for one document, but not another?
  36. # [03:20] <@surkov> but document wasn't loaded and thus there's no elements we look for
  37. # [03:20] <@surkov> tbsaunde: that state change comes somewhere from Firefox UI
  38. # [03:21] <@tbsaunde> surkov: sure
  39. # [03:22] <@surkov> tbsaunde: you mean expected vs unexpected events?
  40. # [03:23] <@tbsaunde> surkov: maybe, I think I understand know
  41. # [03:23] <@surkov> ok
  42. # [03:23] <@tbsaunde> I'd been thinking that function was only called if we knew it was an unexpected event
  43. # [03:24] <@tbsaunde> although perhaps unwantedevent is bettter term
  44. # [03:24] <@tbsaunde> surkov: what does the return of that function get compared to? the getCurrentTabDoc() or whatever itis)
  45. # [03:26] <@surkov> that function is called whenever we get an event of same type
  46. # [03:26] <@tbsaunde> surkov: sure
  47. # [03:26] <@surkov> say we get state change event, we know we have unwanted event, we compare event types and if they match then we compare targets
  48. # [03:26] <@surkov> thus we call that function to get a target of unwanted event
  49. # [03:27] <@surkov> tbsaunde: right?
  50. # [03:28] <@tbsaunde> surkov: yeah, ok
  51. # [03:29] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 664385 on bug 766112.
  52. # [03:29] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=766112 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, Intermittent accessible/events/test_docload.xul | uncaught JS exception - TypeError: currentTabDocum
  53. # [03:29] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ok, anything else interesting?
  54. # [03:30] <@surkov> seems like no :)
  55. # [03:30] <@surkov> thanks again
  56. # [03:30] <@tbsaunde> np
  57. # [03:31] <@tbsaunde> thanks for working on them :)
  58. # [03:49] <@surkov> somebody should
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  60. # [03:54] <@surkov> tbsaunde: about TimeStamp: it seems these classes for different propose
  61. # [03:55] <@surkov> any reason to use them?
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  65. # [04:34] <@tbsaunde> surkov: well, sort of different purpose TimeStamp I think is just supposed to be a general time like prtime but its not really setup that way :/
  66. # [04:34] <@tbsaunde> only real reason to change would be to get rid of nspr stuffs
  67. # [04:34] <@surkov> tbsaunde: should I land it as is?
  68. # [04:35] <@surkov> if they want to get rid those PR stuffs then they will have one big patch :)
  69. # [04:37] <@tbsaunde> sure if you like
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  72. # [04:48] <@surkov> ok
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  107. # [13:15] <@firebot> mounir@lamouri.fr granted in-testsuite on bug 739455.
  108. # [13:15] <@firebot> mounir@lamouri.fr changed the Resolution on bug 739455 from --- to FIXED.
  109. # [13:15] <@firebot> mounir@lamouri.fr changed the Status on bug 739455 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  110. # [13:15] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739455 nor, --, mozilla18, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, Intermittent TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | chrome://mochitests/content/a11y/accessible/tree/test_tabbrowser
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  125. # [15:25] <@davidb> heyo
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  129. # [15:56] <@davidb> clown: just a heads up. i brought your name up during the uagent call as someone who capable of taking an action item but obviously you may not have time.
  130. # [16:00] <clown> davidb, thanks for the warning.
  131. # [16:00] * @davidb nods
  132. # [16:01] <@davidb> cynthia seems to be holding too many actions
  133. # [16:01] <clown> davidb: I don't see any new actions for me. has it been filed yet?
  134. # [16:02] <@davidb> tbsaunde: i've become confused about bug 794041
  135. # [16:02] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=794041 nor, --, ---, ttaubert, ASSI, nsAccDocManager shouldn't create a RootAccessible for the hiddenWindow
  136. # [16:02] <clown> oh no, not "hidden" again...
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  138. # [16:09] <@davidb> clown: yeah it came to mind
  139. # [16:10] <clown> davidb, above I wrote: "davidb:  I don't see any new actions for me.  has it been filed yet?"
  140. # [16:10] <@davidb> ohh
  141. # [16:10] <@davidb> heheh
  142. # [16:10] <@davidb> clown: if you don't hear anything then consider yourself lucky. it is just about creating a figure… showing a dom tree next to an a11y tree.
  143. # [16:11] <clown> davidb, I've done that for the APG already.
  144. # [16:11] <@davidb> well well
  145. # [16:11] * clown looks for link.
  146. # [16:11] <@davidb> clown: feel free to ping andi then :)
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  148. # [16:13] <clown> davidb, okay. There are couple in the section for the presentation role — http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-practices/#presentation_role
  149. # [16:13] <@davidb> clown: ok i'm gonna email and cc you
  150. # [16:13] <clown> well, actually, they are just a11y trees, no DOM tree.
  151. # [16:13] <@davidb> oh
  152. # [16:13] <clown> but it's a start.
  153. # [16:14] <@davidb> yeah
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  155. # [16:16] <@tbsaunde> davidb: oh? also morning ;)
  156. # [16:16] <@davidb> tbsaunde: morning!
  157. # [16:17] <@davidb> tbsaunde: well I'm wondering how much we care about the 'hidden' tree showing up in the test.
  158. # [16:17] <@tbsaunde> davidb: not sure what you mean, but I haven't read bug mail yet
  159. # [16:18] <@davidb> ok
  160. # [16:20] <@davidb> clown: *groan*
  161. # [16:20] <clown> :-)
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  175. # [17:41] <jongund> Is there a way to make a XUL toolbar widget and toolbar buttons keyboard accessible
  176. # [17:42] <@davidb> jongund: I would think so. Has something regressed? (Also hi!)
  177. # [17:42] <@davidb> gosh I haven't tinkered in xul code in 1000 years
  178. # [17:42] <jongund> I am building a sidebar and I can get other buttons and tree XUL have keyboard support, but not toolbar
  179. # [17:43] <@davidb> awww crap https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/XUL_accessibility_guidelines#Toolbarbuttons
  180. # [17:43] <@davidb> anyways try that CSS thing ^
  181. # [17:43] <jongund> Thanks for the link
  182. # [17:43] <@davidb> jongund: -moz-user-focus
  183. # [17:43] <@davidb> yep np
  184. # [17:45] <@davidb> (I hope that still works)
  185. # [17:45] <jongund> OK
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  190. # [17:57] <@davidb> !seen eeejay
  191. # [17:57] <@firebot> eeejay was last seen 21 hours, 40 minutes and 17 seconds ago, saying 'davidb, i bet :)' in #accessibility.
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  193. # [17:57] <@davidb> pfft
  194. # [17:57] <@davidb> hi fxa90id
  195. # [17:57] <fxa90id> hi
  196. # [17:57] <fxa90id> surkov ?
  197. # [17:57] <@davidb> not around
  198. # [17:57] <fxa90id> :<
  199. # [17:57] <fxa90id> bad bad
  200. # [17:58] <@davidb> fxa90id: bug #?
  201. # [17:58] <fxa90id> #722417
  202. # [17:59] <@davidb> fxa90id: i can probably help you
  203. # [17:59] <fxa90id> great
  204. # [17:59] <fxa90id> more less which files I should edit ?
  205. # [17:59] <@davidb> fxa90id: example - http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?find=%2Faccessible%2F&string=VisibilityState
  206. # [18:00] <fxa90id> oh thanks
  207. # [18:00] <fxa90id> :D
  208. # [18:00] <@davidb> and http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?find=%2Faccessible%2F&string=DocAccessible%3A%3ANativeState
  209. # [18:00] <fxa90id> I couldnt find this search
  210. # [18:00] <@davidb> yeah it is an epic time saver
  211. # [18:00] <@davidb> i need to start using dxr more though
  212. # [18:00] <fxa90id> :)
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  228. # [20:21] <@hub> davidb|mobile: no 1:1 ?
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  231. # [20:26] <@hub> I guess not
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  236. # [20:37] <davidb|mobile> hub: sorry! can we meet at your 1:30?
  237. # [20:37] <@hub> davidb|mobile: sure
  238. # [20:37] <@hub> 1330 it will be
  239. # [20:37] <@hub> Pacific
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  242. # [20:43] <davidb|mobile> disconnected again... hub dunno if you replied?
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  244. # [20:46] <@hub> davidb|mobile: I did. find by me at 1330 pacific
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  246. # [20:48] <fxa90id> Im wondering why select boxes must be so ugly
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  257. # [21:49] <shorlander> fxa90id: why are they ugly?
  258. # [21:49] <fxa90id> cant be styled by css
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  267. # [22:18] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 766112 from --- to mozilla18.
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  269. # [22:18] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=766112 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, Intermittent accessible/events/test_docload.xul | uncaught JS exception - TypeError: currentTabDocum
  270. # [22:21] <@davidb> sweet
  271. # [22:23] <@tbsaunde> is surkov up now???
  272. # [22:24] <@davidb> apparently
  273. # [22:24] <@davidb> about 5am for him
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  275. # [22:31] <@davidb> so many people in this channel now… so awesome… except two of them are me!
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  278. # [22:34] <@davidb> that's better
  279. # [22:41] <eeejay> davidb, did you have a q?
  280. # [22:42] <@davidb> eeejay: not yet
  281. # [22:42] <@davidb> sorry
  282. # [22:42] <@hub> davidb: ok, 1:1?
  283. # [22:42] <@davidb> hub: on my way
  284. # [22:42] <@hub> let me grab a room
  285. # [22:42] <eeejay> davidb, no worries, i'm working on my weekend project, ping me if you need clarifications
  286. # [22:43] <@davidb> ok
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  290. # [23:24] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 794620 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  291. # [23:24] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=794620 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, group position of HTML radio buttons might be incorrect
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  293. # [23:35] <@tbsaunde> arg, some of these relation test error messages are really ambigious
  294. # [23:41] <@tbsaunde> davidb: if your working could you try running relations/test_bindings.xhtml stand alone
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  296. # [23:45] <@davidb> tbsaunde: sure
  297. # [23:45] <@davidb> tbsaunde: my tree is about 5 hours old
  298. # [23:45] <@tbsaunde> davidb: mines a day or something
  299. # [23:45] <@davidb> tbsaunde: passes
  300. # [23:46] <@tbsaunde> I doubt its changed recently
  301. # [23:46] <@tbsaunde> davidb: strange, doesn't run for me
  302. # [23:46] <@davidb> strange indeed
  303. # [23:46] <@davidb> this one right? chrome://mochitests/content/a11y/accessible/relations/test_bindings.xhtml
  304. # [23:48] <@tbsaunde> davidb: yes
  305. # [23:52] <@davidb> tbsaunde: i ran it on mac FWIW
  306. # [23:52] <@davidb> 10 tests, all passed
  307. # Session Close: Thu Sep 27 00:00:00 2012

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