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- # Session Ident: #accessibility
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- # [06:04] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 686485 on bug 810572.
- # [06:04] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=810572 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, comb accessible type support
- # [06:07] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested superreview from neil@httl.net for attachment 686485 on bug 810572.
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- # [06:46] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 688627 on bug 810572.
- # [06:46] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=810572 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, comb accessible type support
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- # [07:57] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 819242 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
- # [07:57] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819242 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, JAWS needs old IServiceProvider::QueryService
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- # [08:23] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 689576 on bug 819242.
- # [08:23] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819242 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, JAWS needs old IServiceProvider::QueryService
- # [08:41] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 688662 on bug 660083.
- # [08:42] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 689592 on bug 660083.
- # [08:42] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660083 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, missing focus event when opening a message in Thunderbird
- # [08:43] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 689592 on bug 660083.
- # [08:43] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 689594 on bug 660083.
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- # [08:55] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 689597 on bug 660083.
- # [08:55] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660083 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, missing focus event when opening a message in Thunderbird
- # [09:12] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 815055 from nobody@mozilla.org to surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
- # [09:12] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 689601 on bug 815055.
- # [09:12] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 815055 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
- # [09:13] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=815055 cri, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, crash in nsCoreUtils::IsTabDocument
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- # [11:26] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 819273 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
- # [11:26] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819273 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, ARIA combobox should have accessible value
- # [11:31] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 689629 on bug 819273.
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- # [11:48] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 819280 filed by jacek@codeweavers.com.
- # [11:48] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819280 nor, --, ---, jacek, NEW, Fix GCC warnings in Windows accessibility code
- # [11:52] <@firebot> paul.silaghi@softvision.ro set status-firefox18 to verified on bug 816453.
- # [11:52] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=816453 cri, --, mozilla20, trev.saunders, RESO FIXED, crash in nsAccessibilityService::CreateHTMLObjectFrameAccessible
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- # [12:31] <icaaq> marcoz: Hi, i've made a small test regarding the table and caption elements http://icaaq.com/sandbox/table-caption.html the problem is that the content inside of caption is repeated with firefox and NVDA. is that a known bug?
- # [12:39] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 819291 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
- # [12:39] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819291 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in nsIContent::GetPrimaryFrame, called from mozilla::a11y::TextAttrsMgr::GetAttributes
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- # [13:34] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 819303 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
- # [13:34] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819303 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in nsTextEquivUtils::AppendTextEquivFromTextContent
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- # [14:34] <@marcoz> icaaq: The double-speaking of the caption steems from the fact that it is once used to generate the accessible name for the table, and then it is an element that's rendered to the screen, so gets included in the virtual buffer there, too.
- # [14:34] <@marcoz> Summary, on the other hand, which can also be used to give the table a sort of title or name, is an attribute which would not get rendered, so it will only appear once.
- # [14:35] <icaaq> marcoz: yes, I saw that in the accessible tree
- # [14:36] <icaaq> marcoz: yes, again. but if i want it to be rendered it's duplicated in fx.
- # [14:37] <icaaq> but not in other browsers
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- # [14:54] <@marcoz> icaaq: We were asked to do this. I don't remember the details, surkov was working on this.
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- # [14:54] <icaaq> marcoz: ok, I'll have a look in bugzilla :)
- # [14:55] <@marcoz> Hi davidb!
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- # [14:58] <@davidb> heyo!
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- # [15:27] <@marcoz> davidb: Thanks for reviewing all those patches for AccessFu so quickly!
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- # [15:28] <@davidb> my pleasure
- # [15:28] <@davidb> marcoz: bug 819303 might just need a null check
- # [15:28] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819303 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in nsTextEquivUtils::AppendTextEquivFromTextContent
- # [15:29] <@firebot> edmorley.bz@edmorley.co.uk changed the Resolution on bug 815646 from --- to FIXED.
- # [15:29] <@firebot> edmorley.bz@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 815646 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
- # [15:29] <@firebot> edmorley.bz@edmorley.co.uk changed the Target Milestone on bug 815646 from --- to mozilla20.
- # [15:29] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=815646 nor, --, mozilla20, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, Intermittent accessible/states/test_link.html | Doubled event { event type: document load complete,
- # [15:30] <@hub> I am an idiot
- # [15:30] <@hub> carriers are idiots
- # [15:32] <@davidb> we are all idiots
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- # [15:33] <@hub> yeah
- # [15:33] <@hub> (bug 817036)
- # [15:33] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=817036 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Lost cell data connectivity: APN settings not working
- # [15:33] <@hub> read my last comment
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- # [15:44] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 689707 on bug 819303.
- # [15:44] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819303 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in nsTextEquivUtils::AppendTextEquivFromTextContent
- # [15:45] <@davidb> hub: what a PITA
- # [15:45] <@davidb> did you need info yourself as a reminder?
- # [15:45] <@hub> davidb: yeah so that when I get the topup I check and eventually close it
- # [15:46] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 689707 on bug 819303.
- # [15:52] <@davidb> hub: want my sim?
- # [15:52] <@hub> davidb: nah
- # [15:52] <@hub> I'll get a topup
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- # [16:36] <@marcoz> Aaah, hotel figured out the complete reservation now. All set for CSUN 2013.
- # [16:37] <@davidb> nice
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- # [16:46] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com changed the Assignee on bug 819303 from nobody@mozilla.org to dbolter@mozilla.com.
- # [16:46] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 689735 on bug 819303.
- # [16:46] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819303 cri, --, ---, dbolter, NEW, crash in nsTextEquivUtils::AppendTextEquivFromTextContent
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- # [16:53] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 689735 on bug 819303.
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- # [16:59] <@davidb> marcoz: fix for leonie on the way - just gotta check some things
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- # [17:00] <@davidb> marcoz: i think hub and i are sort of optional for csun now…
- # [17:06] <@davidb> /msg ehsan
- # [17:06] <@marcoz> davidb: Oh, really?
- # [17:07] <@marcoz> davidb: Cool re the fix! Also when you check it in, we may want it for aurora and beta.
- # [17:07] <@davidb> marcoz: good point
- # [17:08] <@davidb> marcoz: can you see if you can crash with <table><th><abbr><abbr><th></table> ?
- # [17:08] <@davidb> err /th
- # [17:08] <@marcoz> Léonie is not on a nightly or so channel, she's using releases AFAICT:
- # [17:08] <@davidb> and /abbr
- # [17:08] <@davidb> marcoz: yeah the crash stack should ff 17
- # [17:08] <@davidb> should/showed
- # [17:08] <@davidb> what is wrong with me today
- # [17:09] <@marcoz> davidb, so no content in the abbr tag?
- # [17:09] <@davidb> right
- # [17:09] <@davidb> please report findings in the bug
- # [17:09] <@davidb> oh my build finished!
- # [17:09] <@marcoz> davidb: Gimme a sec.
- # [17:10] <@davidb> sure no rush
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- # [17:18] <@marcoz> davidb: Yeah I can reproduce the crash and have put the link to a report in the bug.
- # [17:18] <@davidb> great
- # [17:18] <@davidb> i don't crash with the patch
- # [17:21] <@marcoz> Perfect!
- # [17:24] <@davidb> i'm trying to crash with nightly now… not succeeding
- # [17:24] <@davidb> (on mac)
- # [17:25] <@marcoz> davidb: I'm crashing with NVDA on Windows immediately when trying to load my little test file.
- # [17:26] <@marcoz> davidb: Mac a11y might not call getAttributes on table cells yet, since we don't fully support the table interface on Mac right now.
- # [17:26] <@davidb> aha
- # [17:26] <@davidb> want to build with my patch and try?
- # [17:27] <@marcoz> *that* will take a long time since I've not built on Windows in weeks.
- # [17:27] <@davidb> i'm without windows or linux for a couple of weeks :(
- # [17:27] <@davidb> ok np
- # [17:27] <@marcoz> davidb: Not even a VM?
- # [17:28] <@davidb> i have an old vm… but this is a macbook air with 4 GB ram
- # [17:28] <@davidb> it is excruciating
- # [17:28] <@marcoz> davidb: Oh crap….
- # [17:29] <@marcoz> davidb: Throw it against try and I'll check out a resulting build over the weekend or latest Monday morning.
- # [17:30] <@davidb> yeah
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- # [17:33] <@davidb> man am i rusty
- # [17:34] * @davidb shakes it out
- # [17:34] <@hub> I have some WD40 if you want
- # [17:37] <@davidb> could be good
- # [17:39] <@davidb> marcoz: can i f=marcoz on this patch?
- # [17:40] <@davidb> (for when it lands)
- # [17:40] <@davidb> (just setting up patch queue)
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- # [18:03] <@marcoz> davidb: Sure thing!
- # [18:05] * @marcoz is off for the weekend. See you on Monday!
- # [18:05] <@davidb> ciao!
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- # [19:40] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Assignee on bug 818341 from nobody@mozilla.org to eitan@monotonous.org.
- # [19:40] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=818341 nor, --, ---, eitan, NEW, [AccessFu] Encapsulte presentation in the presentation module.
- # [19:41] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Assignee on bug 818342 from nobody@mozilla.org to eitan@monotonous.org.
- # [19:41] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=818342 nor, --, ---, eitan, NEW, [AccessFu] Add announcement method and output.
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- # [20:38] <@hub> http://lucasr.org/2012/12/07/featured-bug-1-in-firefox-for-android/
- # [20:39] <@hub> This is a nice feature we'd benefit from for a11y, I think
- # [20:44] <@davidb> yeah we'd want to get in that queue
- # [20:46] <@hub> I'll add the access keyword and put a note.
- # [20:50] <@davidb> tbsaunde: i guess this spattering of crash fall out is your #1 priority.
- # [20:51] <@davidb> do you feel okay with that?
- # [20:55] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I guess?
- # [20:55] <@tbsaunde> davidb: you just need to check that one in right?
- # [20:56] <@tbsaunde> and the other I have no real idea why it crashes
- # [20:56] <@davidb> tbsaunde: i'm not talking about my bug
- # [20:56] <@davidb> tbsaunde: i mean fallout from bug 801466
- # [20:56] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=801466 nor, --, ---, trev.saunders, ASSI, remove a bunch of uses of prmem stuff
- # [20:57] <@davidb> check your bugmail
- # [20:57] <@davidb> l
- # [20:58] <@tbsaunde> davidb: oh :( let me look
- # [20:58] <@davidb> sure
- # [20:58] <@davidb> sorry to bring the bad news
- # [20:58] <@tbsaunde> I don't read it every dam minute like somepeople :P
- # [21:06] <@davidb> heh i just happened to notice
- # [22:03] <@tbsaunde> davidb: we could also look at crash stats data for android crashes with a11y running
- # [22:03] <@tbsaunde> not sure if that would give better or worse data
- # [22:04] <@davidb> let's see what they say
- # [22:04] <@tbsaunde> but it might be faster since I think bsmedberg or cairo can just run some sql for you if they have time
- # [22:04] <@davidb> hmm
- # [22:04] <@davidb> i'll cc one of them and ask
- # [22:05] <@tbsaunde> davidb: what brought the question up?
- # [22:06] <@davidb> tbsaunde: wanting to know trend… if we keep working on android a11y it would be nice to see it trend up so we know we have impact
- # [22:06] <@tbsaunde> it seems like that might not be a great measure because of random things that turn a11y on
- # [22:06] <@davidb> tbsaunde: on android?
- # [22:07] <@tbsaunde> I'm not sure what sorts of things exist on android
- # [22:07] <@davidb> nothing i'm aware of
- # [22:07] <@davidb> i think it is a decent measure
- # [22:07] <@davidb> but point taken
- # [22:17] <@davidb> i'm gonna head out soon
- # [22:17] <@davidb> if i don't catch you… have a great weekend
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- # [22:19] <@tbsaunde> see ya
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