/irc-logs / mozilla / #accessibility / 2012-12-07 / end

Options:

  1. # Session Start: Fri Dec 07 00:00:00 2012
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
  3. # [00:07] * Quits: Bryen (Bryen@AD869AA5.7763354F.AD565587.IP) (Ping timeout)
  4. # [00:09] * Joins: Bryen (Bryen@AD869AA5.7763354F.AD565587.IP)
  5. # [00:10] * khuey is now known as khuey|away
  6. # [00:55] * Quits: peteb-away (ptbrunet@moz-E9B02845.austin.res.rr.com) (Ping timeout)
  7. # [00:56] * Quits: victorporof (victorporo@B6207739.B0D0881A.79933D60.IP) (Quit: victorporof)
  8. # [00:59] * Quits: askalski (akuda@2BA4E5A7.CC7751E8.6712E96B.IP) (Quit: Wychodzi)
  9. # [01:13] * Quits: satdav (satdav@moz-2B0F19ED.cable.virginmedia.com) (Quit: Leaving)
  10. # [02:00] * Quits: nhirata (anonymous@moz-BE33DA21.fw1.sfo1.mozilla.net) (Quit: nhirata)
  11. # [02:14] * Quits: drexler (chatzilla@moz-AD4BBA18.hsd1.vt.comcast.net) (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204])
  12. # [03:55] * Quits: scott_gonzalez (scott_gonz@moz-91C81A39.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) (Quit: scott_gonzalez)
  13. # [04:22] * Quits: ehsan (ehsan@F2D29657.F60B0462.67AC9B1.IP) (Input/output error)
  14. # [05:12] * Joins: ehsan (ehsan@576FC5E5.CD1D2BB8.DC1243F8.IP)
  15. # [05:29] * Joins: surkov (surkov@39E4CE8A.DF1CD780.E17943EE.IP)
  16. # [05:29] * ChanServ sets mode: +o surkov
  17. # [05:31] * Joins: peteb-away (ptbrunet@moz-E9B02845.austin.res.rr.com)
  18. # [06:04] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 686485 on bug 810572.
  19. # [06:04] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=810572 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, comb accessible type support
  20. # [06:07] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested superreview from neil@httl.net for attachment 686485 on bug 810572.
  21. # [06:16] * Joins: hub (hub@moz-A5C4ACAE.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
  22. # [06:16] * ChanServ sets mode: +o hub
  23. # [06:34] * Quits: @hub (hub@moz-A5C4ACAE.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) (Ping timeout)
  24. # [06:36] * Joins: margle (margle@moz-880BC292.dsl.mweb.co.za)
  25. # [06:46] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 688627 on bug 810572.
  26. # [06:46] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=810572 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, comb accessible type support
  27. # [07:45] * Joins: icaaq (Adium@moz-8EC73B49.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)
  28. # [07:57] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 819242 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  29. # [07:57] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819242 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, JAWS needs old IServiceProvider::QueryService
  30. # [08:04] * Quits: peteb-away (ptbrunet@moz-E9B02845.austin.res.rr.com) (Client exited)
  31. # [08:06] * Joins: Stevef (chatzilla@moz-CD0F47B5.cable.virginmedia.com)
  32. # [08:23] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 689576 on bug 819242.
  33. # [08:23] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819242 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, JAWS needs old IServiceProvider::QueryService
  34. # [08:41] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 688662 on bug 660083.
  35. # [08:42] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 689592 on bug 660083.
  36. # [08:42] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660083 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, missing focus event when opening a message in Thunderbird
  37. # [08:43] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 689592 on bug 660083.
  38. # [08:43] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 689594 on bug 660083.
  39. # [08:44] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 689594 on bug 660083.
  40. # [08:55] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 689597 on bug 660083.
  41. # [08:55] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660083 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, missing focus event when opening a message in Thunderbird
  42. # [09:12] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 815055 from nobody@mozilla.org to surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  43. # [09:12] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 689601 on bug 815055.
  44. # [09:12] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 815055 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  45. # [09:13] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=815055 cri, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, crash in nsCoreUtils::IsTabDocument
  46. # [09:13] * Joins: marcoz (marco.zehe@moz-97736BB3.dip.t-dialin.net)
  47. # [09:14] * ChanServ sets mode: +o marcoz
  48. # [09:39] * Joins: victorporof (victorporo@B6207739.B0D0881A.79933D60.IP)
  49. # [09:40] * Quits: JulienP (julien.pic@moz-83B1DF91.oslo.opera.com) (Quit: )
  50. # [09:45] * Joins: JulienP (julien.pic@moz-83B1DF91.oslo.opera.com)
  51. # [09:59] * Quits: JulienP (julien.pic@moz-83B1DF91.oslo.opera.com) (Quit: )
  52. # [10:11] * Quits: @marcoz (marco.zehe@moz-97736BB3.dip.t-dialin.net) (Quit: Leaving.)
  53. # [10:16] * Joins: marcoz (marco.zehe@moz-97736BB3.dip.t-dialin.net)
  54. # [10:16] * ChanServ sets mode: +o marcoz
  55. # [10:49] * Quits: margle (margle@moz-880BC292.dsl.mweb.co.za) (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
  56. # [10:50] * Joins: margle (margle@moz-880BC292.dsl.mweb.co.za)
  57. # [11:03] * Joins: JulienP (julien.pic@moz-83B1DF91.oslo.opera.com)
  58. # [11:26] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 819273 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  59. # [11:26] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819273 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, ARIA combobox should have accessible value
  60. # [11:31] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 689629 on bug 819273.
  61. # [11:44] * Quits: margle (margle@moz-880BC292.dsl.mweb.co.za) (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
  62. # [11:48] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 819280 filed by jacek@codeweavers.com.
  63. # [11:48] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819280 nor, --, ---, jacek, NEW, Fix GCC warnings in Windows accessibility code
  64. # [11:52] <@firebot> paul.silaghi@softvision.ro set status-firefox18 to verified on bug 816453.
  65. # [11:52] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=816453 cri, --, mozilla20, trev.saunders, RESO FIXED, crash in nsAccessibilityService::CreateHTMLObjectFrameAccessible
  66. # [12:09] * Quits: @surkov (surkov@39E4CE8A.DF1CD780.E17943EE.IP) (Quit: surkov)
  67. # [12:11] * Joins: margle (margle@moz-880BC292.dsl.mweb.co.za)
  68. # [12:12] * Quits: icaaq (Adium@moz-8EC73B49.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Quit: Leaving.)
  69. # [12:30] * Joins: icaaq (Adium@moz-A57D0068.cust.telenor.se)
  70. # [12:31] <icaaq> marcoz: Hi, i've made a small test regarding the table and caption elements http://icaaq.com/sandbox/table-caption.html the problem is that the content inside of caption is repeated with firefox and NVDA. is that a known bug?
  71. # [12:39] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 819291 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
  72. # [12:39] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819291 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in nsIContent::GetPrimaryFrame, called from mozilla::a11y::TextAttrsMgr::GetAttributes
  73. # [12:42] * Joins: icaaq1 (Adium@moz-A57D0068.cust.telenor.se)
  74. # [12:42] * Quits: icaaq (Adium@moz-A57D0068.cust.telenor.se) (Connection reset by peer)
  75. # [12:55] * icaaq1 is now known as icaaq
  76. # [12:58] * Quits: victorporof (victorporo@B6207739.B0D0881A.79933D60.IP) (Quit: victorporof)
  77. # [13:00] * Joins: hub (hub@moz-A5C4ACAE.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
  78. # [13:00] * ChanServ sets mode: +o hub
  79. # [13:09] * Quits: icaaq (Adium@moz-A57D0068.cust.telenor.se) (Connection reset by peer)
  80. # [13:09] * Joins: icaaq (Adium@moz-A57D0068.cust.telenor.se)
  81. # [13:13] * Quits: @hub (hub@moz-A5C4ACAE.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) (Ping timeout)
  82. # [13:15] * Quits: margle (margle@moz-880BC292.dsl.mweb.co.za) (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
  83. # [13:20] * Joins: askalski (akuda@2BA4E5A7.CC7751E8.6712E96B.IP)
  84. # [13:32] * Quits: @jprmc (jprmc@moz-542588AA.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) (Ping timeout)
  85. # [13:33] * Joins: scott_gonzalez (scott_gonz@moz-91C81A39.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net)
  86. # [13:34] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 819303 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
  87. # [13:34] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819303 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in nsTextEquivUtils::AppendTextEquivFromTextContent
  88. # [13:37] * Quits: icaaq (Adium@moz-A57D0068.cust.telenor.se) (Connection reset by peer)
  89. # [13:37] * Joins: icaaq (Adium@moz-A57D0068.cust.telenor.se)
  90. # [13:43] * Quits: icaaq (Adium@moz-A57D0068.cust.telenor.se) (Quit: Leaving.)
  91. # [13:55] * Joins: habber (habber@moz-8654C0B7.nyc.res.rr.com)
  92. # [13:59] * Joins: icaaq (Adium@moz-A57D0068.cust.telenor.se)
  93. # [14:07] * Joins: Justin_o (Justin_o@67828CC7.C1A51174.9D42CF23.IP)
  94. # [14:13] * Quits: icaaq (Adium@moz-A57D0068.cust.telenor.se) (Ping timeout)
  95. # [14:17] * Joins: jprmc (jprmc@4A9FF50A.81C579B6.DA78B690.IP)
  96. # [14:17] * ChanServ sets mode: +o jprmc
  97. # [14:28] * Joins: icaaq (Adium@moz-A57D0068.cust.telenor.se)
  98. # [14:32] * Quits: icaaq (Adium@moz-A57D0068.cust.telenor.se) (Ping timeout)
  99. # [14:32] * Joins: icaaq (Adium@B6AD3CDB.7DCD925.CE255B90.IP)
  100. # [14:34] <@marcoz> icaaq: The double-speaking of the caption steems from the fact that it is once used to generate the accessible name for the table, and then it is an element that's rendered to the screen, so gets included in the virtual buffer there, too.
  101. # [14:34] <@marcoz> Summary, on the other hand, which can also be used to give the table a sort of title or name, is an attribute which would not get rendered, so it will only appear once.
  102. # [14:35] <icaaq> marcoz: yes, I saw that in the accessible tree
  103. # [14:36] <icaaq> marcoz: yes, again. but if i want it to be rendered it's duplicated in fx.
  104. # [14:37] <icaaq> but not in other browsers
  105. # [14:42] * Joins: hub (hub@F2D29657.F60B0462.67AC9B1.IP)
  106. # [14:42] * ChanServ sets mode: +o hub
  107. # [14:48] * Quits: @jprmc (jprmc@4A9FF50A.81C579B6.DA78B690.IP) (Ping timeout)
  108. # [14:51] * Quits: icaaq (Adium@B6AD3CDB.7DCD925.CE255B90.IP) (Connection reset by peer)
  109. # [14:51] * Joins: peteb-away (ptbrunet@moz-E9B02845.austin.res.rr.com)
  110. # [14:52] * Joins: jprmc (jprmc@4A9FF50A.81C579B6.DA78B690.IP)
  111. # [14:52] * ChanServ sets mode: +o jprmc
  112. # [14:52] * Joins: icaaq (Adium@B6AD3CDB.7DCD925.CE255B90.IP)
  113. # [14:54] <@marcoz> icaaq: We were asked to do this. I don't remember the details, surkov was working on this.
  114. # [14:54] * Joins: davidb (davidb@F2D29657.F60B0462.67AC9B1.IP)
  115. # [14:54] * ChanServ sets mode: +qo davidb davidb
  116. # [14:54] <icaaq> marcoz: ok, I'll have a look in bugzilla :)
  117. # [14:55] <@marcoz> Hi davidb!
  118. # [14:57] * Joins: victorporof (victorporo@DC9E107D.F695A43D.79933D60.IP)
  119. # [14:58] * Quits: icaaq (Adium@B6AD3CDB.7DCD925.CE255B90.IP) (Ping timeout)
  120. # [14:58] <@davidb> heyo!
  121. # [15:02] * Quits: @jprmc (jprmc@4A9FF50A.81C579B6.DA78B690.IP) (Ping timeout)
  122. # [15:03] * Quits: askalski (akuda@2BA4E5A7.CC7751E8.6712E96B.IP) (Ping timeout)
  123. # [15:03] * Joins: icaaq (Adium@B6AD3CDB.7DCD925.CE255B90.IP)
  124. # [15:04] * Joins: askalski (akuda@2BA4E5A7.CC7751E8.6712E96B.IP)
  125. # [15:14] * Joins: clown (clown@67828CC7.C1A51174.9D42CF23.IP)
  126. # [15:18] * Quits: Justin_o (Justin_o@67828CC7.C1A51174.9D42CF23.IP) (Quit: Justin_o)
  127. # [15:19] * Quits: peteb-away (ptbrunet@moz-E9B02845.austin.res.rr.com) (Ping timeout)
  128. # [15:20] * Joins: margle (margle@moz-880BC292.dsl.mweb.co.za)
  129. # [15:23] * Quits: icaaq (Adium@B6AD3CDB.7DCD925.CE255B90.IP) (Ping timeout)
  130. # [15:27] <@marcoz> davidb: Thanks for reviewing all those patches for AccessFu so quickly!
  131. # [15:27] * Joins: icaaq (Adium@moz-6F2A115D.cust.telenor.se)
  132. # [15:28] * Quits: askalski (akuda@2BA4E5A7.CC7751E8.6712E96B.IP) (Quit: Wychodzi)
  133. # [15:28] <@davidb> my pleasure
  134. # [15:28] <@davidb> marcoz: bug 819303 might just need a null check
  135. # [15:28] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819303 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in nsTextEquivUtils::AppendTextEquivFromTextContent
  136. # [15:29] <@firebot> edmorley.bz@edmorley.co.uk changed the Resolution on bug 815646 from --- to FIXED.
  137. # [15:29] <@firebot> edmorley.bz@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 815646 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  138. # [15:29] <@firebot> edmorley.bz@edmorley.co.uk changed the Target Milestone on bug 815646 from --- to mozilla20.
  139. # [15:29] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=815646 nor, --, mozilla20, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, Intermittent accessible/states/test_link.html | Doubled event { event type: document load complete,
  140. # [15:30] <@hub> I am an idiot
  141. # [15:30] <@hub> carriers are idiots
  142. # [15:32] <@davidb> we are all idiots
  143. # [15:33] * Quits: icaaq (Adium@moz-6F2A115D.cust.telenor.se) (Ping timeout)
  144. # [15:33] <@hub> yeah
  145. # [15:33] <@hub> (bug 817036)
  146. # [15:33] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=817036 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Lost cell data connectivity: APN settings not working
  147. # [15:33] <@hub> read my last comment
  148. # [15:34] * Joins: icaaq (Adium@moz-6F2A115D.cust.telenor.se)
  149. # [15:34] * Quits: ehsan (ehsan@576FC5E5.CD1D2BB8.DC1243F8.IP) (Input/output error)
  150. # [15:34] * Joins: jprmc (jprmc@F2D29657.F60B0462.67AC9B1.IP)
  151. # [15:34] * ChanServ sets mode: +o jprmc
  152. # [15:38] * Quits: icaaq (Adium@moz-6F2A115D.cust.telenor.se) (Ping timeout)
  153. # [15:39] * Joins: icaaq (Adium@moz-84F10A9C.cust.telenor.se)
  154. # [15:44] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 689707 on bug 819303.
  155. # [15:44] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819303 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in nsTextEquivUtils::AppendTextEquivFromTextContent
  156. # [15:45] <@davidb> hub: what a PITA
  157. # [15:45] <@davidb> did you need info yourself as a reminder?
  158. # [15:45] <@hub> davidb: yeah so that when I get the topup I check and eventually close it
  159. # [15:46] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 689707 on bug 819303.
  160. # [15:52] <@davidb> hub: want my sim?
  161. # [15:52] <@hub> davidb: nah
  162. # [15:52] <@hub> I'll get a topup
  163. # [15:52] * Joins: fxa90id (fxa90id@moz-4506FDDC.dsl.dynamic.t-mobile.pl)
  164. # [16:03] * Joins: ehsan (ehsan@F2D29657.F60B0462.67AC9B1.IP)
  165. # [16:08] * Joins: Justin_o (Justin_o@67828CC7.C1A51174.9D42CF23.IP)
  166. # [16:17] * Quits: icaaq (Adium@moz-84F10A9C.cust.telenor.se) (Connection reset by peer)
  167. # [16:35] * Joins: icaaq (Adium@moz-200DC1CF.customers.ownit.se)
  168. # [16:36] <@marcoz> Aaah, hotel figured out the complete reservation now. All set for CSUN 2013.
  169. # [16:37] <@davidb> nice
  170. # [16:44] * Quits: ehsan (ehsan@F2D29657.F60B0462.67AC9B1.IP) (Input/output error)
  171. # [16:45] * Joins: ehsan (ehsan@F2D29657.F60B0462.67AC9B1.IP)
  172. # [16:46] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com changed the Assignee on bug 819303 from nobody@mozilla.org to dbolter@mozilla.com.
  173. # [16:46] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 689735 on bug 819303.
  174. # [16:46] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819303 cri, --, ---, dbolter, NEW, crash in nsTextEquivUtils::AppendTextEquivFromTextContent
  175. # [16:46] * Joins: peteb-away (ptbrunet@moz-E9B02845.austin.res.rr.com)
  176. # [16:53] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 689735 on bug 819303.
  177. # [16:57] * Quits: icaaq (Adium@moz-200DC1CF.customers.ownit.se) (Quit: Leaving.)
  178. # [16:57] * Joins: icaaq (Adium@moz-200DC1CF.customers.ownit.se)
  179. # [16:59] <@davidb> marcoz: fix for leonie on the way - just gotta check some things
  180. # [17:00] * Quits: habber (habber@moz-8654C0B7.nyc.res.rr.com) (Ping timeout)
  181. # [17:00] <@davidb> marcoz: i think hub and i are sort of optional for csun now…
  182. # [17:06] <@davidb> /msg ehsan
  183. # [17:06] <@marcoz> davidb: Oh, really?
  184. # [17:07] <@marcoz> davidb: Cool re the fix! Also when you check it in, we may want it for aurora and beta.
  185. # [17:07] <@davidb> marcoz: good point
  186. # [17:08] <@davidb> marcoz: can you see if you can crash with <table><th><abbr><abbr><th></table> ?
  187. # [17:08] <@davidb> err /th
  188. # [17:08] <@marcoz> Léonie is not on a nightly or so channel, she's using releases AFAICT:
  189. # [17:08] <@davidb> and /abbr
  190. # [17:08] <@davidb> marcoz: yeah the crash stack should ff 17
  191. # [17:08] <@davidb> should/showed
  192. # [17:08] <@davidb> what is wrong with me today
  193. # [17:09] <@marcoz> davidb, so no content in the abbr tag?
  194. # [17:09] <@davidb> right
  195. # [17:09] <@davidb> please report findings in the bug
  196. # [17:09] <@davidb> oh my build finished!
  197. # [17:09] <@marcoz> davidb: Gimme a sec.
  198. # [17:10] <@davidb> sure no rush
  199. # [17:13] * Joins: habber (habber@moz-8654C0B7.nyc.res.rr.com)
  200. # [17:16] * Quits: habber (habber@moz-8654C0B7.nyc.res.rr.com) (Ping timeout)
  201. # [17:18] <@marcoz> davidb: Yeah I can reproduce the crash and have put the link to a report in the bug.
  202. # [17:18] <@davidb> great
  203. # [17:18] <@davidb> i don't crash with the patch
  204. # [17:21] <@marcoz> Perfect!
  205. # [17:24] <@davidb> i'm trying to crash with nightly now… not succeeding
  206. # [17:24] <@davidb> (on mac)
  207. # [17:25] <@marcoz> davidb: I'm crashing with NVDA on Windows immediately when trying to load my little test file.
  208. # [17:26] <@marcoz> davidb: Mac a11y might not call getAttributes on table cells yet, since we don't fully support the table interface on Mac right now.
  209. # [17:26] <@davidb> aha
  210. # [17:26] <@davidb> want to build with my patch and try?
  211. # [17:27] <@marcoz> *that* will take a long time since I've not built on Windows in weeks.
  212. # [17:27] <@davidb> i'm without windows or linux for a couple of weeks :(
  213. # [17:27] <@davidb> ok np
  214. # [17:27] <@marcoz> davidb: Not even a VM?
  215. # [17:28] <@davidb> i have an old vm… but this is a macbook air with 4 GB ram
  216. # [17:28] <@davidb> it is excruciating
  217. # [17:28] <@marcoz> davidb: Oh crap….
  218. # [17:29] <@marcoz> davidb: Throw it against try and I'll check out a resulting build over the weekend or latest Monday morning.
  219. # [17:30] <@davidb> yeah
  220. # [17:30] * Joins: habber (habber@moz-8654C0B7.nyc.res.rr.com)
  221. # [17:33] <@davidb> man am i rusty
  222. # [17:34] * @davidb shakes it out
  223. # [17:34] <@hub> I have some WD40 if you want
  224. # [17:37] <@davidb> could be good
  225. # [17:39] <@davidb> marcoz: can i f=marcoz on this patch?
  226. # [17:40] <@davidb> (for when it lands)
  227. # [17:40] <@davidb> (just setting up patch queue)
  228. # [17:41] * Quits: Justin_o (Justin_o@67828CC7.C1A51174.9D42CF23.IP) (Quit: Justin_o)
  229. # [17:46] * Joins: Justin_o (Justin_o@67828CC7.C1A51174.9D42CF23.IP)
  230. # [18:03] <@marcoz> davidb: Sure thing!
  231. # [18:05] * @marcoz is off for the weekend. See you on Monday!
  232. # [18:05] <@davidb> ciao!
  233. # [18:05] * Quits: @marcoz (marco.zehe@moz-97736BB3.dip.t-dialin.net) (Quit: Leaving.)
  234. # [18:05] * Quits: Stevef (chatzilla@moz-CD0F47B5.cable.virginmedia.com) (Ping timeout)
  235. # [18:24] * Quits: margle (margle@moz-880BC292.dsl.mweb.co.za) (Quit: Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/)
  236. # [18:34] * Joins: drexler (chatzilla@moz-AD4BBA18.hsd1.vt.comcast.net)
  237. # [18:35] * Joins: Stevef (chatzilla@moz-CD0F47B5.cable.virginmedia.com)
  238. # [18:51] * Quits: @jprmc (jprmc@F2D29657.F60B0462.67AC9B1.IP) (Ping timeout)
  239. # [18:57] * Joins: jprmc (jprmc@F2D29657.F60B0462.67AC9B1.IP)
  240. # [18:57] * ChanServ sets mode: +o jprmc
  241. # [19:06] * Quits: Justin_o (Justin_o@67828CC7.C1A51174.9D42CF23.IP) (Quit: Justin_o)
  242. # [19:06] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
  243. # [19:32] * Joins: Justin_o (Justin_o@67828CC7.C1A51174.9D42CF23.IP)
  244. # [19:40] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Assignee on bug 818341 from nobody@mozilla.org to eitan@monotonous.org.
  245. # [19:40] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=818341 nor, --, ---, eitan, NEW, [AccessFu] Encapsulte presentation in the presentation module.
  246. # [19:41] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Assignee on bug 818342 from nobody@mozilla.org to eitan@monotonous.org.
  247. # [19:41] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=818342 nor, --, ---, eitan, NEW, [AccessFu] Add announcement method and output.
  248. # [20:32] * Quits: Stevef (chatzilla@moz-CD0F47B5.cable.virginmedia.com) (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 16.0.2/20121024073032])
  249. # [20:38] <@hub> http://lucasr.org/2012/12/07/featured-bug-1-in-firefox-for-android/
  250. # [20:39] <@hub> This is a nice feature we'd benefit from for a11y, I think
  251. # [20:44] <@davidb> yeah we'd want to get in that queue
  252. # [20:46] <@hub> I'll add the access keyword and put a note.
  253. # [20:50] <@davidb> tbsaunde: i guess this spattering of crash fall out is your #1 priority.
  254. # [20:51] <@davidb> do you feel okay with that?
  255. # [20:55] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I guess?
  256. # [20:55] <@tbsaunde> davidb: you just need to check that one in right?
  257. # [20:56] <@tbsaunde> and the other I have no real idea why it crashes
  258. # [20:56] <@davidb> tbsaunde: i'm not talking about my bug
  259. # [20:56] <@davidb> tbsaunde: i mean fallout from bug 801466
  260. # [20:56] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=801466 nor, --, ---, trev.saunders, ASSI, remove a bunch of uses of prmem stuff
  261. # [20:57] <@davidb> check your bugmail
  262. # [20:57] <@davidb> l
  263. # [20:58] <@tbsaunde> davidb: oh :( let me look
  264. # [20:58] <@davidb> sure
  265. # [20:58] <@davidb> sorry to bring the bad news
  266. # [20:58] <@tbsaunde> I don't read it every dam minute like somepeople :P
  267. # [21:06] <@davidb> heh i just happened to notice
  268. # [22:03] <@tbsaunde> davidb: we could also look at crash stats data for android crashes with a11y running
  269. # [22:03] <@tbsaunde> not sure if that would give better or worse data
  270. # [22:04] <@davidb> let's see what they say
  271. # [22:04] <@tbsaunde> but it might be faster since I think bsmedberg or cairo can just run some sql for you if they have time
  272. # [22:04] <@davidb> hmm
  273. # [22:04] <@davidb> i'll cc one of them and ask
  274. # [22:05] <@tbsaunde> davidb: what brought the question up?
  275. # [22:06] <@davidb> tbsaunde: wanting to know trend… if we keep working on android a11y it would be nice to see it trend up so we know we have impact
  276. # [22:06] <@tbsaunde> it seems like that might not be a great measure because of random things that turn a11y on
  277. # [22:06] <@davidb> tbsaunde: on android?
  278. # [22:07] <@tbsaunde> I'm not sure what sorts of things exist on android
  279. # [22:07] <@davidb> nothing i'm aware of
  280. # [22:07] <@davidb> i think it is a decent measure
  281. # [22:07] <@davidb> but point taken
  282. # [22:17] <@davidb> i'm gonna head out soon
  283. # [22:17] <@davidb> if i don't catch you… have a great weekend
  284. # [22:19] * Quits: Justin_o (Justin_o@67828CC7.C1A51174.9D42CF23.IP) (Quit: Justin_o)
  285. # [22:19] <@tbsaunde> see ya
  286. # [22:23] * Quits: @davidb (davidb@F2D29657.F60B0462.67AC9B1.IP) (Quit: davidb)
  287. # [22:42] * Parts: clown (clown@67828CC7.C1A51174.9D42CF23.IP)
  288. # [23:01] * Quits: @jprmc (jprmc@F2D29657.F60B0462.67AC9B1.IP) (Ping timeout)
  289. # [23:29] * Quits: victorporof (victorporo@DC9E107D.F695A43D.79933D60.IP) (Quit: victorporof)
  290. # [23:31] * Quits: habber (habber@moz-8654C0B7.nyc.res.rr.com) (Quit: habber)
  291. # [23:40] * Joins: jprmc (jprmc@C74B05D6.81C579B6.DA78B690.IP)
  292. # [23:40] * ChanServ sets mode: +o jprmc
  293. # [23:47] * Quits: @hub (hub@F2D29657.F60B0462.67AC9B1.IP) (Ping timeout)
  294. # [23:59] * Joins: victorporof (victorporo@DC9E107D.F695A43D.79933D60.IP)
  295. # Session Close: Sat Dec 08 00:00:01 2012

The end :)