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- # Session Start: Tue Dec 11 00:00:00 2012
- # Session Ident: #accessibility
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- # [02:18] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 820197 from General to Disability Access APIs.
- # [02:18] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=820197 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Fix build warnings in accessible
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- # [04:29] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Product on bug 810572 from Component: Core to Disability Access APIs.
- # [04:29] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=810572 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, comb accessible type support
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- # [05:14] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested review from dbolter@mozilla.com for attachment 690699 on bug 817869.
- # [05:14] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=817869 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Consolidate Android and B2G touch adapters
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- # [06:09] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 690629 on bug 820197.
- # [06:10] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=820197 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Fix build warnings in accessible
- # [06:10] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 820197 from nobody@mozilla.org to catalin.usurelu5@gmail.com.
- # [06:10] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 820197 from UNCONFIRMED to ASSIGNED.
- # [06:11] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Product on bug 820197 from Component: Core to Disability Access APIs.
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- # [10:31] <@firebot> catalin.usurelu5@gmail.com requested review from the wind for attachment 690778 on bug 820197.
- # [10:31] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=820197 nor, --, ---, catalin.usurelu5, ASSI, Fix build warnings in accessible
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- # [12:51] <@firebot> monahant@ie.ibm.com changed the Product on bug 452800 from Component: Firefox to Disability Access.
- # [12:51] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452800 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, textarea and input styled borders do not display in high contrast mode
- # [12:52] <@firebot> monahant@ie.ibm.com changed the Product on bug 698710 from Component: Firefox to Disability Access.
- # [12:52] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=698710 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, In high contrast mode, "border-width" does not work for some elements like "input", "select"
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- # [14:41] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524001 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, Cannot navigate untrusted connection warning page with keyboard (for mouse-less installations)
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- # [15:12] <@davidb> heyo
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- # [15:15] <icaaq> surkov: Hi, I talked to marcoz the other day regarding <caption> and how content inside of that element is repeated in fx and NVDA. Here's a test http://icaaq.com/sandbox/table-caption.html
- # [15:16] <icaaq> he said: "We were asked to do this. I don't remember the details, surkov was working on this."
- # [15:16] <@surkov> icaaq: hi, details please?
- # [15:18] <icaaq> The double-speaking of the caption steams from the fact that it is once used to generate the accessible name for the table, and then it is an element that's rendered to the screen, so gets included in the virtual buffer there, too.
- # [15:19] <icaaq> If I for example use IE and NVDA it's not repeted. I'm just curious if you remember why you where told to do so :)
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- # [15:25] <Stevef> dbolter: henri mailed html list with feedack on main: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Dec/0069.html he also did a try build which i just tested and works fine with jaws and nvda
- # [15:26] <@davidb> excellent
- # [15:27] <@davidb> Stevef: what do you think about deprecating article?
- # [15:28] <Stevef> dbolter: i don't think it shouldbe deprecated asits sue cases are different, but i do think its use should be made clearer otherwise you end up with pages like this https://twitter.com/stevefaulkner/status/278092064737083392
- # [15:30] <Stevef> dbolter: also think that section needs a rethink as to its role/meaning since it is commonly used as a replacement for divs and unlike div is not semantically neautral
- # [15:33] <@davidb> yes.
- # [15:33] <@davidb> i agree
- # [15:35] <Stevef> also AT such as JAWS need to provide preferences for users to shut out noise and think about how they expose the semantics
- # [15:36] <Stevef> for example JAWS expsoes <article> as a landmark which it is not...
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- # [16:50] <@firebot> catalin.usurelu5@gmail.com requested review from the wind for attachment 690878 on bug 820197.
- # [16:50] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=820197 nor, --, ---, catalin.usurelu5, ASSI, Fix build warnings in accessible
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- # [16:52] <@davidb> http://beust.com/weblog/2011/06/15/sleep-sort/
- # [16:57] <askalski> davidb, ^ :D
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- # [17:11] <@firebot> jwatt@jwatt.org cancelled needinfo?(jwatt@jwatt.org) on bug 534873.
- # [17:11] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=534873 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [meta] SVG a11y
- # [17:12] <@firebot> edmorley.bz@edmorley.co.uk changed the Resolution on bug 819303 from --- to FIXED.
- # [17:12] <@firebot> edmorley.bz@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 819303 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
- # [17:12] <@firebot> edmorley.bz@edmorley.co.uk changed the Target Milestone on bug 819303 from --- to mozilla20.
- # [17:12] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819303 cri, --, mozilla20, dbolter, RESO FIXED, crash in nsTextEquivUtils::AppendTextEquivFromTextContent
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- # [17:17] <satdav> davidb, was wondering if I can book the accessibility room every thursday at 2pm pst for a accessibility websites meeting
- # [17:18] <@davidb> satdav: sure
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- # [17:18] <@davidb> just use it
- # [17:18] <satdav> davidb, who has the rights to record on it
- # [17:18] <@davidb> you want to record it?
- # [17:18] <satdav> was just asking in case their was a other meeting
- # [17:18] <@davidb> thanks. no other meeting then.
- # [17:18] <satdav> OK
- # [17:19] <satdav> davidb, what time is that were you are
- # [17:19] <@davidb> 5pm
- # [17:19] <satdav> OK
- # [17:19] <satdav> so you are just finished work
- # [17:19] <satdav> marcoz is not about today i see
- # [17:26] <satdav> davidb, whats the process for getting a blog setup for accessibility
- # [17:26] <@davidb> dunno
- # [17:26] <satdav> oh seen we dont have one
- # [17:26] <@davidb> we just use the main channels which his better IMO
- # [17:26] <@davidb> his/is
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- # [17:27] <satdav> yes
- # [17:27] <satdav> but sometimes blogging is better
- # [17:27] <@davidb> e.g. https://hacks.mozilla.org/category/accessibility/
- # [17:27] <satdav> can i file a bug to get it setup
- # [17:27] <satdav> for blog.mozilla.org/accessibility
- # [17:27] <@davidb> satdav: do you have a blog?
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- # [17:28] <satdav> not at present but maybe I can blog aboutsome of the accessibility related stuff
- # [17:28] <satdav> why does hacks not have about firefox features
- # [17:28] <@davidb> I think you should try blogging before going ahead and asking mozilla to set up a blog.
- # [17:28] <@davidb> satdav: i don't understand your question
- # [17:29] <satdav> I do blog
- # [17:29] <satdav> but dont really cover accessibility things
- # [17:29] <satdav> all of my blogs are linked to planet
- # [17:29] <@davidb> great
- # [17:30] <satdav> planet.mozilla.org
- # [17:30] <@davidb> I am aware of that yes.
- # [17:31] <satdav> David maybe i can speak to reed about setting up the hacks one to link to it
- # [17:32] <@davidb> link to what?
- # [17:32] <satdav> on planet
- # [17:32] <satdav> how do i add a blog to hacks
- # [17:33] <@davidb> people are usually selected and asked to write blogs for hacks
- # [17:33] <@davidb> i'm not aware of the process but you could search around
- # [17:34] <@davidb> it is about technology
- # [17:34] <satdav> cool
- # [17:35] <satdav> was going to ask you to add about the firefox accessibility
- # [17:35] <satdav> features we have got a kb about it
- # [17:35] <@davidb> more blogs will come - we're just busy
- # [17:35] <@davidb> speaking of which i can't chat too long ;)
- # [17:36] <satdav> OK
- # [17:36] <satdav> you herd from ken recently
- # [17:36] <@davidb> no :(
- # [17:37] <satdav> was wondering have you got anything accessibility related you want added on the channel meeting
- # [17:37] <@davidb> BTW have you seen http://blogaccessibility.com/
- # [17:38] <@davidb> satdav: can you remind me, what is the channel meeting for?
- # [17:38] <@davidb> is that for release team?
- # [17:39] <satdav> yes it is the release team
- # [17:39] <@davidb> yeah we don't have anything that needs to be discussed live i don't think
- # [17:40] <satdav> OK
- # [17:40] <@davidb> satdav: if you aren't aware - this is a great web a11y community http://webaim.org/community/
- # [17:42] <satdav> never herd of it
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- # [18:02] <eeejay> davidb, hi?
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- # [18:05] <satdav> icaaq1, wasw was wondering do you have any more bugs about sumo
- # [18:09] <icaaq1> satdav: I haven't been able to track them. don't have the time, Wish I had though :)
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- # [18:10] <icaaq> satdav: anything particular you had in mind?
- # [18:10] <satdav> icaaq, going to possible scedule a meeting with habber and john slater again and anyone else who is intrested in it
- # [18:10] <satdav> about accessibilty websites
- # [18:11] <icaaq> SUMO in particular or sandstone guidlines?
- # [18:12] <satdav> well all of mozilla
- # [18:12] <satdav> but for sumo i can possible do that
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- # [18:14] <icaaq> satdav: ok, When i see something I normally file a bug under the access keyword. I'haven't been looking at sumo for a while.
- # [18:15] <satdav> OK
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- # [18:49] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com granted review for attachment 690699 on bug 817869.
- # [18:49] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com changed the Product on bug 817869 from Component: Core to Disability Access APIs.
- # [18:49] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=817869 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Consolidate Android and B2G touch adapters
- # [18:50] <@davidb> eeejay: i had a question on bug 818343
- # [18:50] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=818343 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Introduce gesture quick navigation
- # [18:50] <@davidb> (comment 4)
- # [18:54] <eeejay> davidb, replied
- # [18:57] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com granted review for attachment 688551 on bug 818343.
- # [19:06] <@davidb> eeejay: feel free to fix Marco's issue on a follow up
- # [19:06] <eeejay> davidb, the swipe distance one?
- # [19:06] <@davidb> yeah
- # [19:07] <eeejay> davidb, sure. i need to test that more
- # [19:07] <@davidb> ok
- # [19:07] <eeejay> it isn't trivial to keep gestures distinct
- # [19:08] <eeejay> swipes would mix with tabs
- # [19:08] <eeejay> Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!
- # [19:09] <satdav> davidb, is maroz going to be about tommorow
- # [19:16] <@davidb> satdav: yes afaik
- # [19:16] <satdav> OK
- # [19:16] <@davidb> eeejay: sounds complicated
- # [19:20] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Assignee on bug 818343 from nobody@mozilla.org to eitan@monotonous.org.
- # [19:20] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=818343 nor, --, ---, eitan, NEW, [AccessFu] Introduce gesture quick navigation
- # [19:21] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Assignee on bug 817869 from nobody@mozilla.org to eitan@monotonous.org.
- # [19:21] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=817869 nor, --, ---, eitan, NEW, [AccessFu] Consolidate Android and B2G touch adapters
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- # [20:02] <eeejay> bbiab
- # [20:03] <@firebot> deletesoftware+moz@yandex.ru changed the Component on bug 820454 from Untriaged to Keyboard Navigation.
- # [20:03] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=820454 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Control+Right/Left does not change tab
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- # [20:27] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 820508 filed by hsivonen@iki.fi.
- # [20:27] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=820508 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Add support for <main> element
- # [20:32] <eeejay> davidb, yo
- # [20:33] <@davidb> hi hi - still in dev meeting
- # [20:33] <eeejay> davidb, k. i'm on skype whenever
- # [20:34] <@davidb> roger
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- # [20:41] <satdav> eeejay, you should use vidyo
- # [20:41] <eeejay> satdav, thanks
- # [20:42] <fxa90id_> ;(
- # [20:42] <fxa90id_> why I cant install firefox on my tablet
- # [20:42] <fxa90id_> ;(
- # [20:43] <@davidb> fxa90id_: it should be on google play
- # [20:43] <fxa90id_> it is
- # [20:44] <eeejay> fxa90id_, which tablet?
- # [20:44] <fxa90id_> but my device is not compataible
- # [20:44] <fxa90id_> ;d
- # [20:44] <fxa90id_> Plug Impact
- # [20:44] <fxa90id_> it has 1GB ram :<
- # [20:44] <fxa90id_> android 4.0.3
- # [20:45] <satdav> fxa90id_, try #firefox for help
- # [20:46] <fxa90id_> ok ty satdav
- # [20:46] <satdav> as this is the accessibility channel
- # [20:47] <satdav> fxa90id_, #mobile might be better
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- # [21:13] <fxa90id> ok done
- # [21:13] <fxa90id> I have Aurora version :)
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- # [22:05] <@davidb> ok heading out a bit early today…
- # [22:05] <@davidb> ciao!
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- # [22:05] <satdav> can i ask what everyone looks over the sumo design
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