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- # [03:15] <@firebot> catalinn.iordache@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 694179 on bug 821269.
- # [03:15] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=821269 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Fix build warnings in accessible/src/html
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- # [04:44] <@tbsaunde> surkov: btw no, that CC patch doesn't really help with native classes and inheritance though it makes handling native classes in general somewhat nices
- # [04:45] <@tbsaunde> but we could get CC of events correct if we wanted to, but I'm not sure I see the point, it really should be hard to not ref count them
- # [04:45] <@surkov> tbsaunde: ok, thank you for remembering that question :)
- # [04:45] <@tbsaunde> surkov: np, anything else up?
- # [04:46] <@surkov> tbsaunde: how we can get them correct?
- # [04:46] <@surkov> tbsaunde: are you fine if I file a bug for your concern about that perf issue
- # [04:46] <@tbsaunde> surkov: I guess so
- # [04:46] <@surkov> ok, I will do that way then
- # [04:47] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ok
- # [04:48] <@tbsaunde> surkov: all you haveto do is tell the CC about all the members of the given class by downcasting to the right type in the Traverse function and downcasting and getting rid all refrences for the downcasted type in Unlink
- # [04:49] <@surkov> tbsaunde: can you put into the bug a shortcut please, I would avoid to read CC internals
- # [04:49] <@surkov> shortcut -> code snippet
- # [04:50] <@tbsaunde> surkov: nsCycleCollectionParticipant.h isn't that bad, but I guess so
- # [04:50] <@surkov> iirc it has a lot of macros :) I don't like reading them
- # [04:50] <@tbsaunde> really though I don't know why you want to bother is nearly as much work as not reference counting them
- # [04:51] <@tbsaunde> lazy ;)
- # [04:51] <@tbsaunde> surkov: which bug btw?
- # [04:51] <@surkov> yep, I'm lazy about things that might require some time but I just need to use them once and then forget about them :)
- # [04:52] <@surkov> hm, if we have it at all
- # [04:52] <@surkov> tbsaunde: bug 812767
- # [04:52] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=812767 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, move out event processing logging from NotificationController
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- # [05:03] <@tbsaunde> surkov: btw plans to use AcctableChangeEvent? or is it just there to look nice?
- # [05:28] <@surkov> tbsaunde: nobody said they need it, it stays from times when we wanted to implement new APIs (ATK and IA2)
- # [05:30] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ok, I wonder if its really worth keeping instead of just readding if somebody ever asks
- # [05:30] <@surkov> tbsaunde: then we should probably wont fix related bugs
- # [05:31] <@surkov> tbsaunde: let's wait on it, probably UIA needs that
- # [05:31] <@tbsaunde> surkov: I'm not sure I agree its not like we really try and implement anything there
- # [05:31] <@tbsaunde> but I guess if you like to keep it doesn't hurt too much
- # [05:32] <@surkov> yep, we have two ongoing kind of new API (os x and UIA), probably they need that
- # [05:32] <@surkov> but if they don't and nobody else wants it then it makes sense to remove it
- # [05:33] <@surkov> perhaps Orca knowns, I think IA2 just copied those events from ATK spec
- # [05:33] <@tbsaunde> surkov: I"m not sure, I sort of thought atk was coppied from ia2
- # [05:35] <@surkov> no, no, vice versa
- # [05:35] <@surkov> people created ATK and then they decided to have similar things on IA2
- # [05:36] <@surkov> I was here when IA2 was born, that was my first serious work: implement IA2 in Fireofx
- # [05:36] <@tbsaunde> surkov: btw any thoughts on text stuff?
- # [05:36] <@surkov> they had ATK implementation already
- # [05:36] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ah
- # [05:37] <@surkov> tbsaunde: sometimes I think maybe we should give green light to UIA which have different text concept before reworking our text impl
- # [05:40] <@surkov> tbsaunde: why do you ask?
- # [05:40] <@tbsaunde> surkov: just sort of keep in mind working on our text impl
- # [05:41] <@surkov> ok, cool
- # [05:41] <@tbsaunde> surkov: I'm not sure what you mean give uia green light
- # [05:41] <@surkov> tbsaunde: I meant do it prior to ia2 text rewrok
- # [05:41] <@tbsaunde> surkov: well, some bits of uia depend on it no?
- # [05:42] <@surkov> sure, they are
- # [05:42] <@surkov> but mostly on tree I think
- # [05:42] <@surkov> I looked at UIA text half year ago so I don't really recall details
- # [05:42] <@surkov> I remember I wanted to build it in parallel with out text impl
- # [05:43] <@tbsaunde> surkov: well, getting tree stuff working for uia shouldn't be too hard
- # [05:43] <@tbsaunde> surkov: you mean build it as completely seperate thing?
- # [05:43] <@surkov> I meant do not reuse ia2 text impl for uia text
- # [05:43] <@surkov> yep, sort of
- # [05:44] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ok, if I work on it I'll probably just add new text interfaces to xpcom
- # [05:44] <@tbsaunde> so I can test without running uia :)
- # [05:44] <@surkov> we need something on xpcom level for that I agree
- # [05:44] <@surkov> basically that should be just one more interface I think
- # [05:45] <@tbsaunde> yeah, probably
- # [05:46] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ideas on how impl should work?
- # [05:46] <@surkov> tbsaunde: I really don't remember, it was half year ago before vacations
- # [05:46] <@surkov> do you want to work on it?
- # [05:47] <@surkov> if so I could recall my findings and put them into a bug
- # [05:47] <@tbsaunde> surkov: well, I want to work on many things :)
- # [05:47] <@tbsaunde> but I'm not sure which I'll actually do
- # [05:48] <@surkov> I see. Ok, I'll put there then eventually :)
- # [05:49] <@surkov> tbsaunde: btw, don't you want to work on text attribute thing (bug 746484), we were asked to implement it
- # [05:49] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746484 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, text attributes concept don't get mapped well to nsIPersistentProperties
- # [05:50] <@tbsaunde> surkov: sure, that's one of many things
- # [05:50] <@surkov> tbsaunde: ok, then assign the bug if you start working on it, I might be picking it up in nearest future
- # [05:51] <@tbsaunde> surkov: oh, is it blocking you?
- # [05:52] <@surkov> tbsaunde: it's not blocking, it'd be good to finish with it
- # [05:52] <@surkov> (not wait more couple years before it)
- # [05:52] <@tbsaunde> surkov: I'm not doing anything terribly high priority atm, sort of inbetween ripping out random garbage
- # [05:53] <@surkov> tbsaunde: so if you like then you can pick it up (it's small and clear enough)
- # [05:53] <@tbsaunde> surkov: true
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- # [06:13] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 693396 on bug 822664.
- # [06:13] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=822664 nor, --, ---, trev.saunders, NEW, only use the pres shell to get existing doc accessibles
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- # [07:22] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 693805 on bug 822983.
- # [07:22] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from longsonr@gmail.com for attachment 694231 on bug 822983.
- # [07:22] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=822983 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, Map SVG graphic elements to accessibility API
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- # [09:03] <@firebot> longsonr@gmail.com granted review for attachment 694231 on bug 822983.
- # [09:04] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=822983 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, Map SVG graphic elements to accessibility API
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- # [09:22] <@firebot> mh+mozilla@glandium.org requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 694256 on bug 818407.
- # [09:22] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=818407 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, changing the HTML body doesn't pick up ARIA role
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- # [09:34] <@firebot> mh+mozilla@glandium.org requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 694258 on bug 818407.
- # [09:34] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=818407 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, changing the HTML body doesn't pick up ARIA role
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- # [09:50] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=818407 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, changing the HTML body doesn't pick up ARIA role
- # [09:58] <@firebot> mh+mozilla@glandium.org requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 694266 on bug 818407.
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- # [10:58] <@firebot> catalinn.iordache@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 694179 on bug 821269.
- # [10:58] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=821269 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Fix build warnings in accessible/src/html
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- # [15:14] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=818407 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, changing the HTML body doesn't pick up ARIA role
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- # [17:54] <clown> hey davidb. just in case I don't see you around tomorrow — a merry holiday to you and yours.
- # [17:54] <@davidb> and you and yours!
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- # [17:59] <satdav> davidb, going to book the accessibility room once a month
- # [17:59] <satdav> for a meeting
- # [18:01] <@davidb> ok
- # [18:02] <satdav> davidb, do i need to tell you about if i want to use the accessibility room
- # [18:02] <satdav> or just use it for meetings
- # [18:02] <@davidb> just one time is fine… it is rarely used.
- # [18:03] <@davidb> i mean telling me once, but using it regularly at the same time is fine
- # [18:03] <@davidb> anytime except for wednesday mornings is fine
- # [18:05] <satdav> OK
- # [18:05] <satdav> thats fine
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- # [19:13] <eeejay> davidb, ping?
- # [19:13] <@davidb> eeejay: pong
- # [19:13] <@davidb> i'm barely here until 2pm my time
- # [19:13] <@davidb> but go ahead
- # [19:13] <eeejay> davidb, 2 things: do you have rainer's video locally?
- # [19:13] <eeejay> his link doesn't work anymore
- # [19:14] <eeejay> 2. did you see that patch? want to land it before the big holiday
- # [19:14] <@davidb> i have some versions but i don't know if final
- # [19:14] <@davidb> eeejay: yeah i will review that this aft
- # [19:14] <@davidb> can you check in with rainer?
- # [19:14] <@davidb> cc me
- # [19:14] <eeejay> davidb, kk
- # [19:14] <@davidb> ta
- # [19:18] <satdav> whats the patch for
- # [19:22] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com granted review for attachment 693606 on bug 822816.
- # [19:22] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=822816 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Double tapping does not activate things in JellyBean
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- # [20:04] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com changed the Assignee on bug 794620 from nobody@mozilla.org to aiishwarya.sivaraman@gmail. com.
- # [20:04] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com requested needinfo from aiishwarya.sivara man@gmail.com on bug 794620.
- # [20:04] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=794620 nor, --, ---, aiishwarya.sivaraman, NEW, group position of HTML radio buttons might be incorrect
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- # [20:18] <@davidb> tbsaunde: feel free to ping me here for higher bandwidth
- # [20:20] <@davidb> if you think you might help implement the tts side of htmlspeech that is significant to Q1 plan :)
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- # [20:47] <fxa90id> ;>
- # [20:47] <fxa90id> Q1 plan ?
- # [20:48] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Assignee on bug 822816 from nobody@mozilla.org to eitan@monotonous.org.
- # [20:48] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=822816 nor, --, ---, eitan, NEW, [AccessFu] Double tapping does not activate things in JellyBean
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- # [21:31] <@tbsaunde> davidb: not sure how high a priority it is, but it could be interesting
- # [21:31] <@davidb> i agree
- # [21:31] <@davidb> i think it has decent priority
- # [21:32] <@tbsaunde> davidb: then I guess I'll work on it a bit
- # [21:33] <@davidb> sounds good - i'll put your name next to it in my secret list
- # [21:34] <@davidb> except nightly is crashing on etherpad
- # [21:37] <@tbsaunde> davidb: secret list?
- # [21:37] <@davidb> kidding
- # [21:37] <@davidb> i have this password protected list of everything i need to remember
- # [21:37] <@tbsaunde> I see
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- # [22:48] <@firebot> edmorley.bz@edmorley.co.uk changed the Resolution on bug 813019 from --- to FIXED.
- # [22:48] <@firebot> edmorley.bz@edmorley.co.uk changed the Status on bug 813019 from NEW to RESOLVED.
- # [22:48] <@firebot> edmorley.bz@edmorley.co.uk changed the Target Milestone on bug 813019 from --- to mozilla20.
- # [22:48] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=813019 nor, --, mozilla20, catalinn.iordache, RESO FIXED, get rid of AccMutationEvent::mNode
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- # [23:22] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 693786 on bug 459357.
- # [23:22] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=459357 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, Support accessible name computation for SVG
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- # [23:50] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 694231 on bug 822983.
- # [23:50] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=822983 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, Map SVG graphic elements to accessibility API
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- # Session Close: Fri Dec 21 00:00:00 2012
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