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  23. # [02:46] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 750062 on bug 872338.
  24. # [02:46] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=872338 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, iframe documents should support nsIAccessibleCursorable too
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  29. # [02:53] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 749908 on bug 869845.
  30. # [02:54] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=869845 nor, --, ---, zach.xuku, NEW, FirePlatformEvent shouldn't be virtual
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  33. # [03:05] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 873322 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  34. # [03:05] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873322 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, need handy function for easy getText... testing
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  37. # [03:06] <@tbsaunde> surkov: so, I'm trying to figure out your text patch
  38. # [03:07] <@tbsaunde> surkov: how can it be that starting at end of text you find previous word start then find next word start and it isn't end of text
  39. # [03:08] <@surkov> tbsaunde: whitespaces?
  40. # [03:08] <@surkov> it should be the same
  41. # [03:08] <@tbsaunde> surkov: oh, if text ends with them you mean
  42. # [03:09] <@surkov> yeah, but it should be the same in either case
  43. # [03:09] <@tbsaunde> surkov: by it should be the same do you mean second if in your patch isn't needed?
  44. # [03:09] <@surkov> it's needed :)
  45. # [03:10] <@surkov> prior my patch if you at the end of text and in the word then we should return previous word
  46. # [03:10] <@surkov> not this one
  47. # [03:10] <@surkov> if you move backward and forward then you get this word
  48. # [03:14] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ok, but I thought you said moving to next word start after finding previous one should always get you to end of text, but your patch has an if to see if that's the case I don't see why you need that
  49. # [03:15] <@surkov> tbsaunde: I miss these are related
  50. # [03:16] <@tbsaunde> surkov: how what are related?
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  52. # [03:17] <@surkov> tbsaunde: that if works when you are not at the end of text
  53. # [03:18] <@tbsaunde> surkov: oh, yeah, /me dumb
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  58. # [03:24] <@tbsaunde> surkov: so, in the case offset == CharCount() you move back twice? why don't you just move back once and say endoffset = ofset?
  59. # [03:25] <@surkov> tbsaunde: "will contain the word before the word before the offset if the offset is not inside a word"
  60. # [03:25] <@surkov> and "will contain the word before the offset if the offset is inside a word"
  61. # [03:25] <@surkov> so end of text is always start offset is before before, end offset is before
  62. # [03:27] <@tbsaunde> surkov: but I thought you sad if you're at the end of text then we should return word at end of text
  63. # [03:28] <@surkov> if I did then I didn't' want to say that
  64. # [03:28] <@tbsaunde> ok
  65. # [03:28] <@tbsaunde> sorry I didn't understand this ubber complicated api :(
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  69. # [03:50] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 750351 on bug 872964.
  70. # [03:50] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=872964 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, wrong result for getTextBeforeOffset for start word boundary at text length offset
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  78. # [04:25] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 750830 on bug 873322.
  79. # [04:26] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873322 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, need handy function for easy getText... testing
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  98. # [06:05] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted in-testsuite on bug 872964.
  99. # [06:05] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=872964 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, wrong result for getTextBeforeOffset for start word boundary at text length offset
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  104. # [06:41] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 873358 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  105. # [06:41] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873358 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, textarea claims bogus trailing \n (HTML br)
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  111. # [08:13] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 873366 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  112. # [08:13] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873366 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, move getText tests into separate file
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  125. # [10:39] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 873393 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  126. # [10:39] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873393 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, move get text for char boundary tests into separate file
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  137. # [12:01] <@firebot> mdeboer@mozilla.com granted feedback for attachment 749753 on bug 492557.
  138. # [12:01] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=492557 nor, --, ---, mdeboer, ASSI, Create a keyboard shortcut HUD
  139. # [12:18] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 873411 filed by maxli@maxli.ca.
  140. # [12:18] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873411 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Provide extra node information to Brailleback
  141. # [12:21] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 873412 filed by maxli@maxli.ca.
  142. # [12:21] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873412 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Implement performAction for clicking
  143. # [12:24] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 873415 filed by maxli@maxli.ca.
  144. # [12:24] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873415 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Populate adjacent nodes with data
  145. # [12:26] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca changed the Assignee on bug 873412 from nobody@mozilla.org to maxli@maxli.ca.
  146. # [12:26] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca changed the Assignee on bug 873411 from nobody@mozilla.org to maxli@maxli.ca.
  147. # [12:26] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca changed the Assignee on bug 873415 from nobody@mozilla.org to maxli@maxli.ca.
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  154. # [13:22] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 750987 on bug 614570.
  155. # [13:22] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=614570 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, Rev IAccessible2 1.3
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  160. # [14:35] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 873437 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  161. # [14:35] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873437 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Implement IAccessible2_2::attribute
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  164. # [14:39] <@marcoz> Hi all!
  165. # [14:40] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 873438 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  166. # [14:40] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873438 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Implement IAccessible2_2::accessibleWithCaret
  167. # [14:40] <@surkov> hi, marcoz
  168. # [14:41] <@marcoz> Hi surkov!
  169. # [14:42] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 873439 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  170. # [14:43] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873439 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Implement IAccessible2_2::relationTargetsOfType
  171. # [14:45] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 873440 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  172. # [14:45] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873440 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Implement IAccessible action to manage media content
  173. # [14:47] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 873441 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  174. # [14:47] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873441 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Implement IAccessibleDocument interface
  175. # [14:51] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 873444 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  176. # [14:51] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873444 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, implement IAccessibleHypertext2::hyperlinks
  177. # [14:53] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 873445 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  178. # [14:54] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873445 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Implement IAccessibleText2::attributeRange
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  180. # [15:01] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 873447 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  181. # [15:01] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873447 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, expose IAccessible2 checkable state
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  183. # [15:03] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 873450 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  184. # [15:03] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873450 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Implement IA2 containing relations
  185. # [15:05] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 873451 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  186. # [15:05] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873451 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Implement IA2 NEXT/PREV_TABBABLE relations
  187. # [15:06] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 873453 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  188. # [15:06] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873453 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Implement IA2_RELATION_NODE_PARENT_OF
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  194. # [15:21] <@marcoz> Hi maxli!
  195. # [15:21] <@marcoz> Hi yzen!
  196. # [15:22] <yzen> marcoz: Hi!
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  199. # [15:23] <@marcoz> Good morning davidb!
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  202. # [15:26] <maxli> Hi marcoz!
  203. # [15:30] <@marcoz> maxli: Good job on the bugs you filed re BrailleBack support!
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  205. # [15:31] <@davidb> heyo
  206. # [15:31] <@davidb> hi hi hi!
  207. # [15:33] <@davidb> marcoz: I think you'd like the SF office… especially the roof patio
  208. # [15:40] <@marcoz> davidb: Oh wow, sounds nice! :)
  209. # [15:40] <@davidb> yep
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  213. # [15:47] <@marcoz> davidb: So, any good reason to go to San Francisco (after Berlin) for an a11y work week? *gg*
  214. # [15:47] <@davidb> awesome people are there
  215. # [15:48] <@davidb> Berlin's building isn't ready
  216. # [15:48] <@davidb> dragging on
  217. # [15:49] <@marcoz> Yeah that point about the Berlin building is totally correct unfortunately. It goes with a lot of other things in Berlin that aren't ready. Like their new….umm….fancy…..airport.
  218. # [15:52] <@davidb> heh
  219. # [15:56] <Gijs> marcoz: when is that airport going to happen now?
  220. # [15:56] <Gijs> 2014?
  221. # [15:56] * Gijs was in Berlin in Dec 2011, Jan 2012, and it was already a dragging-on-thing then
  222. # [16:39] <@marcoz> Gijs: The old airport remains open until 2018 now, and the new one will go into service bit by bit.
  223. # [16:46] * @eeejay waves
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  225. # [16:48] <@hub> marcoz: they are closing it?
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  231. # [17:18] <@marcoz> hub: Yes, the new airport is to replace the old ones that are in Berlin now.
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  245. # [18:44] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org cancelled review?(eitan@monotonous.or g) for attachment 749410 on bug 857946.
  246. # [18:44] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=857946 maj, --, ---, yura.zenevich, NEW, [AccessFu] After closing all tabs, newly loaded pages are no longer accessible
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  248. # [18:49] <@eeejay> i can't believe it
  249. # [18:49] <@eeejay> this machine just compiled ff in 20 minutes..
  250. # [18:50] <@davidb> why so long?
  251. # [18:50] <@davidb> :)
  252. # [18:50] <@eeejay> pff
  253. # [18:51] <Gijs> eeejay: not windows, surely?
  254. # [18:51] <@eeejay> mbp
  255. # [18:51] <Gijs> Oh, yeah.
  256. # [18:52] <Gijs> Mine does that too. It's pretty neat. Especially compared to my beefy new windows machine which still takes twice as long. :\
  257. # [18:52] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 869845 from --- to FIXED.
  258. # [18:52] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 869845 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  259. # [18:53] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 869845 from --- to mozilla24.
  260. # [18:53] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=869845 nor, --, mozilla24, zach.xuku, RESO FIXED, FirePlatformEvent shouldn't be virtual
  261. # [18:53] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com granted in-testsuite on bug 873322.
  262. # [18:53] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 873322 from --- to FIXED.
  263. # [18:53] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 873322 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  264. # [18:54] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 873322 from --- to mozilla24.
  265. # [18:54] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873322 nor, --, mozilla24, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, need handy function for easy getText... testing
  266. # [18:54] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 872964 from --- to FIXED.
  267. # [18:54] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 872964 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  268. # [18:54] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 872964 from --- to mozilla24.
  269. # [18:54] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=872964 nor, --, mozilla24, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, wrong result for getTextBeforeOffset for start word boundary at text length offset
  270. # [18:55] <yzen> eeejay: hi
  271. # [18:55] <@eeejay> yzen, hey
  272. # [18:57] <yzen> eeejay: so that check for Utils.init is not good for oop content.. do you think there's a way to find that out in oop ?
  273. # [18:58] <@tbsaunde> arg all the bug mail
  274. # [19:00] <@eeejay> yzen, why would you need to?
  275. # [19:00] <@eeejay> yzen, it would have gotten AccessFu:Stop
  276. # [19:02] <yzen> eeejay: i think one of the reasons was that the message is passed asynchronously and the observer is still observing the events even when accessfu is detached
  277. # [19:02] <yzen> for a short moment
  278. # [19:03] <@eeejay> yzen, is that a big problem?
  279. # [19:04] <yzen> eeejay: i guess not really , since we are try/catching event handle. Also one thing i was wondering, since i still need to modify the patch, i was wondering if i can update Logger.error to print the stack as well ?
  280. # [19:04] <@eeejay> yzen, Logger.logException, yes
  281. # [19:05] <@eeejay> yzen, that would be helpful
  282. # [19:05] <@eeejay> yzen, but i think exceptions are not always standard
  283. # [19:05] <@eeejay> yzen, xpcom errors are different from js errors, afair
  284. # [19:05] <yzen> eeejay: so i could not just traverse the Components.stack ?
  285. # [19:06] <yzen> i would at least know where the exception is being caught/logged
  286. # [19:08] <yzen> eeejay: that is in case Error stack is missing
  287. # [19:10] <@eeejay> yzen, just check that it exists, and don't assume attributes are there
  288. # [19:10] <yzen> eeejay: sounds good
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  291. # [19:13] <@eeejay> yzen, how do you run a version of firefox you just built on mac?
  292. # [19:13] <@eeejay> dist/bin/firefox?
  293. # [19:13] <@eeejay> or the app?
  294. # [19:14] <yzen> eeejay: the app, in my case - ./obj-x86_64-apple-darwin12.3.0/dist/NightlyDebug.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox
  295. # [19:14] <@eeejay> yzen, thanks
  296. # [19:15] <yzen> eeejay: np
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  302. # [19:42] <@hub> fourth time that the idiots at Koodo fail to understand what accessibility is about. even though I was not even asking them about it.
  303. # [19:43] <@hub> they just have illiterate robots answering on twitter
  304. # [19:43] <@hub> (and I'm being unnice with robots saying that)
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  326. # [21:43] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 750987 on bug 614570.
  327. # [21:43] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=614570 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, Rev IAccessible2 1.3
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  329. # [22:08] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 750939 on bug 873393.
  330. # [22:08] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873393 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, move get text for char boundary tests into separate file
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