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  11. # [01:44] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 876540 filed by jdiggs@igalia.com.
  12. # [01:44] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=876540 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, get_text_at_offset() sometimes returns the first line of text when given the final character's offse
  13. # [02:13] <@firebot> New Firefox - Keyboard Navigation bug 876546 filed by ws.bugzilla@starkov.name.
  14. # [02:13] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=876546 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Enable alt+click or alt+enter to save links by default (with a hidden preference to re-disable)
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  17. # [02:49] <@firebot> gavin.sharp@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 876546 from --- to WONTFIX.
  18. # [02:49] <@firebot> gavin.sharp@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 876546 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  19. # [02:49] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=876546 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WONTFIX, Enable alt+click or alt+enter to save links by default (with a hidden preference to re-disable)
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  24. # [03:12] <@tbsaunde> surkov: should <tr></tr> be accessible if not under a table?
  25. # [03:13] <@surkov> tbsaunde: I don't think that tr is allowed outside table on DOM level
  26. # [03:14] <@tbsaunde> surkov: I mean in xhtml were it is
  27. # [03:15] <@tbsaunde> surkov: I'm trying to get bug 852150 done
  28. # [03:15] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=852150 maj, --, ---, trev.saunders, NEW, "ASSERTION: No accessible parent?!" with table
  29. # [03:15] <@surkov> tbsaunde: oh, I think no, because I think we should have a parent context check when accessible is created
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  32. # [03:25] <@tbsaunde> surkov: it seems at some point we broke moving backwards by words with orca
  33. # [03:26] <@surkov> tbsaunde: ok, good, file a bug pls?
  34. # [03:28] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ok, not sure I have much more to add than that though I suppose I could write a trivial test case in the next couple days
  35. # [03:29] <@surkov> tbsaunde: additionally cc'ing Joanie might help
  36. # [03:29] <@tbsaunde> surkov: yeah true
  37. # [03:30] <@surkov> tbsaunde: regression range will be very helpful as well
  38. # [03:35] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 754623 on bug 852150.
  39. # [03:35] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=852150 maj, --, ---, trev.saunders, NEW, "ASSERTION: No accessible parent?!" with table
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  48. # [06:04] <darkowlzz> surkov, ping!
  49. # [06:04] <@surkov> darkowlzz: pong
  50. # [06:04] <darkowlzz> hi
  51. # [06:04] <darkowlzz> could you help me with https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=846185
  52. # [06:04] <@firebot> Bug 846185 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, get rid of nsIAccessibleProvider
  53. # [06:06] <darkowlzz> I have replaced http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/accessible/src/base/nsAccessibilityService.cpp#1137 with aContent->GetAttr(kNameSpaceID_None, nsGkAtoms::role, role)
  54. # [06:07] <@surkov> darkowlzz: questions?
  55. # [06:08] <darkowlzz> now the role has to be compared with each of the cases in the switch case
  56. # [06:09] <darkowlzz> should I still use the switch case?
  57. # [06:10] <darkowlzz> and after removing accessible/public/nsIAccessibleProvider.idl , the current switch cases won't be valid, what should I replace the cases with?
  58. # [06:10] <@surkov> darkowlzz: role is either atom or string so you need to use 'if' statement
  59. # [06:10] <@surkov> current switch should be replaced on if (role == XULButton)
  60. # [06:10] <darkowlzz> but that would be a really long if-else
  61. # [06:12] <@surkov> not longer than switch :)
  62. # [06:12] <@surkov> switch is used for integer type only
  63. # [06:12] <darkowlzz> I think |role.EqualsLiteral("XULBUTTON")| would be even better
  64. # [06:12] <darkowlzz> yes, I was thinking how do I use strings in switch
  65. # [06:13] <darkowlzz> |if(role.EqualsLiteral("XULButton"))| would be good or just if(role == XULButton) ?
  66. # [06:14] <@surkov> darkowlzz: that probably doesn't matter. in general it's preferable to use nsIAtom instead strings
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  78. # [08:21] <darkowlzz> tbsaunde, ping!
  79. # [08:27] <darkowlzz> sawrubh, ping!
  80. # [08:29] <sawrubh> darkowlzz: pong
  81. # [08:30] <darkowlzz> hi :)
  82. # [08:30] <sawrubh> hey
  83. # [08:30] <darkowlzz> could you help me with this bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=846185
  84. # [08:30] <@firebot> Bug 846185 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, get rid of nsIAccessibleProvider
  85. # [08:30] <darkowlzz> from comment 2, I have tried to do what's mentioned in the first part
  86. # [08:30] <darkowlzz> here is what I did http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2452827
  87. # [08:31] <sawrubh> gimme some time
  88. # [08:32] <darkowlzz> sure
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  90. # [08:44] <fxa90id> :)
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  99. # [11:46] <darkowlzz> tbsaunde, ping! :)
  100. # [11:47] <@firebot> New Firefox - Keyboard Navigation bug 876628 filed by ws.bugzilla@starkov.name.
  101. # [11:47] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=876628 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Make Alt+Click open in new tab at the far end of the tab list
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  103. # [12:08] <@tbsaunde> darkowlzz: pong
  104. # [12:08] <darkowlzz> tbsaunde, look at this http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2452827
  105. # [12:11] <@tbsaunde> ok?
  106. # [12:12] <darkowlzz> tbsaunde, seems right?
  107. # [12:13] <darkowlzz> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=846185 if you need it again
  108. # [12:13] <@firebot> Bug 846185 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, get rid of nsIAccessibleProvider
  109. # [12:15] <darkowlzz> tbsaunde, if that is okay, now I am stuck with the second part, replacing nsIAccessibleProvider from .xul files
  110. # [12:15] <darkowlzz> with content
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  112. # [12:19] <darkowlzz> lemme know when you are done with the previous changes
  113. # [12:19] <@tbsaunde> darkowlzz: I guess, but I'm not sure where these constants like XULPane are comming from
  114. # [12:20] <darkowlzz> tbsaunde, I spoke to surkov and he suggested to use if else with simple if else comparison with ==
  115. # [12:20] <@tbsaunde> darkowlzz: that wasn't my question
  116. # [12:22] <darkowlzz> oh!
  117. # [12:23] <darkowlzz> your question seems similar to what I was asking yesterday, if we remove nsIAccessibleProvider.idl, where would the literals defined
  118. # [12:25] <@tbsaunde> darkowlzz: I told you to use literal strings like "XULAlert" yesterday
  119. # [12:26] <darkowlzz> ah! yes
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  121. # [12:26] <darkowlzz> and what I am using are like constants
  122. # [12:28] <darkowlzz> tbsaunde, lets come back to this later and try the 2nd part of the problem, removing nsIAccessibleProvider from .xul files
  123. # [12:29] <@tbsaunde> darkowlzz: surkov said how to do that in his comment no?
  124. # [12:30] <darkowlzz> <surkov> darkowlzz: role is either atom or string so you need to use 'if' statement
  125. # [12:30] <darkowlzz> <surkov> current switch should be replaced on if (role == XULButton)
  126. # [12:31] <@tbsaunde> darkowlzz: no, I meant in the bug
  127. # [12:32] <darkowlzz> oh! too many confusions :)
  128. # [12:32] <darkowlzz> yes, so I went to toolkit/content/widgets/button.xml
  129. # [12:33] <darkowlzz> and found that there are so many |property| elements
  130. # [12:34] <@tbsaunde> ok?
  131. # [12:34] <darkowlzz> the way it's shown in the bug, there is only 1 |implementation| and 1 |property|
  132. # [12:34] <darkowlzz> for which there is a |content| in the new implementation
  133. # [12:35] <@tbsaunde> darkowlzz: only the property for implementing nsIAccessibleProvider is relevent
  134. # [12:35] <darkowlzz> but what should be done when there are more than 1 |property|
  135. # [12:37] <darkowlzz> so what should I do with the other |property| tags?
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  137. # [12:38] <darkowlzz> the new implementation seems to replace |property| with |content|
  138. # [12:39] <@tbsaunde> darkowlzz: leave them alone
  139. # [12:39] <@tbsaunde> darkowlzz: if there isn't a <content> already I guess
  140. # [12:41] <darkowlzz> so other <property>s would be out of <content>
  141. # [12:43] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca requested feedback from marco.zehe@google mail.com for attachment 754744 on bug 876475.
  142. # [12:43] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=876475 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, [AccessFu] Make braille output less verbose
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  145. # [13:23] <@firebot> indiasuny000@gmail.com requested feedback from surkov.alexander@ gmail.com for attachment 754755 on bug 846185.
  146. # [13:23] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=846185 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, get rid of nsIAccessibleProvider
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  148. # [13:40] <@firebot> ttaubert@mozilla.com requested feedback from surkov.alexander@ gmail.com for attachment 754761 on bug 794041.
  149. # [13:40] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=794041 nor, --, ---, ttaubert, ASSI, nsAccDocManager shouldn't create a RootAccessible for the hiddenWindow
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  167. # [15:43] <@firebot> benjamin@smedbergs.us requested needinfo from jboriss@mozilla.c om on bug 854848.
  168. # [15:44] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=854848 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Support the longdesc attribute
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  171. # [15:53] <@davidb> you know you have too much email when you forget to open an irc client in the morning
  172. # [15:53] <@davidb> heyo
  173. # [15:59] <fxa90id> hi davidb :)
  174. # [15:59] <@davidb> hi
  175. # [15:59] <yzen> davidb: morning
  176. # [15:59] <@davidb> morning
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  181. # [16:22] <@tbsaunde> davidb: solution look at irc first, or just use a irc client you don't close ;)
  182. # [16:22] <@davidb> yeah
  183. # [16:23] <@davidb> my day starts by looking at my phone which alerts me about email
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  204. # [18:55] <@firebot> ian@hixie.ch changed the Resolution on bug 702594 from WONTFIX to ---.
  205. # [18:55] <@firebot> ian@hixie.ch changed the Status on bug 702594 from RESOLVED to REOPENED.
  206. # [18:55] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=702594 nor, --, ---, nobody, REOP, map HTML <hgroup> element to accessibility APIs
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  208. # [19:11] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org granted review for attachment 754530 on bug 845870.
  209. # [19:11] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=845870 nor, --, ---, yura.zenevich, NEW, [AccessFu] Trust explicitly associated names when speaking certain elements
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  216. # [19:53] <yzen> eeejay: thanks :)
  217. # [19:53] <eeejay> yup!
  218. # [19:53] <eeejay> thank you
  219. # [19:54] <eeejay> yzen, want to create a patch that is a failing test for the case i mentioned, and attach it to a new bug?
  220. # [19:54] <yzen> eeejay: you mean the subtree explicit name?
  221. # [19:54] <eeejay> yzen, yeah
  222. # [19:54] <yzen> eeejay: will do
  223. # [19:59] <yzen> eeejay: otherwise the trimming one is ok too ?
  224. # [20:00] <eeejay> yzen, oh. sorry, it isn't in my dash
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  227. # [20:09] <eeejay> yzen, you broke a test. i think
  228. # [20:09] <eeejay> https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/1e2af88d919c
  229. # [20:10] <yzen> hmm
  230. # [20:10] <eeejay> oh, nm
  231. # [20:10] <eeejay> i think i didn't build it right
  232. # [20:11] <yzen> eeejay: i did have to resolve some conflicts after the pref bug..
  233. # [20:11] <yzen> hopefully that's what it is
  234. # [20:11] <eeejay> yzen, the utterance.js file was missing, i think in my local build
  235. # [20:11] <@firebot> ian@hixie.ch changed the Status on bug 702594 from REOPENED to NEW.
  236. # [20:12] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=702594 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, map HTML <hgroup> element to accessibility APIs
  237. # [20:19] <davidb> ok appt time
  238. # [20:19] <davidb> laters
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  245. # [21:21] <Bryen> ping eeejay
  246. # [21:21] <Bryen> and hi everyone else :-)
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  253. # [21:53] <eeejay> Bryen, yo
  254. # [22:03] <Bryen> hey eeejay How you doing?
  255. # [22:03] <eeejay> Bryen, good good
  256. # [22:03] <Bryen> Got a couple of questions for you:
  257. # [22:04] <Bryen> 1. Is Dots still actively being developed?
  258. # [22:04] <Bryen> 2. Do you recall a vision simulation app that was created out of AEgis for developers to see what visually-impaired users see? I can't remember the name of that frickin' software.
  259. # [22:05] <eeejay> 1. not by me, check revision history to see if someone else is
  260. # [22:06] <eeejay> 2. don't know. aaron made a chrome extension that kindof does that
  261. # [22:06] <Bryen> ok
  262. # [22:07] <Bryen> eeejay, I was trying out dots the other day, and visually it came out kind of weird. So just wondered if it was still active.
  263. # [22:07] <eeejay> Bryen, dunno
  264. # [22:08] <Bryen> Hope you're doing well over there. Trying to wrap my head around all the stuff that's out there for possible course I may give later this year.
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  268. # [22:38] <eeejay> Bryen, awesome
  269. # [22:44] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested needinfo from blassey.bugs@lass ey.us on bug 876475.
  270. # [22:44] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=876475 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, [AccessFu] Make braille output less verbose
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  273. # [22:54] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=876475 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, [AccessFu] Make braille output less verbose
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  281. # [23:13] <@firebot> faulkner.steve@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 702594 from --- to WONTFIX.
  282. # [23:13] <@firebot> faulkner.steve@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 702594 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  283. # [23:13] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=702594 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WONTFIX, map HTML <hgroup> element to accessibility APIs
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  286. # [23:21] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=854848 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Support the longdesc attribute
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  291. # [23:31] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=702594 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO FIXED, map HTML <hgroup> element to accessibility APIs
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