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  1. # Session Start: Wed Jun 12 00:00:00 2013
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  5. # [00:15] <@firebot> gijskruitbosch+bugs@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 881937 from General to Keyboard Navigation.
  6. # [00:15] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=881937 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, The Australis panel menu should be keyboard accessible
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  23. # [02:40] <@firebot> lsblakk@mozilla.com set status-firefox24 to fixed on bug 877532.
  24. # [02:40] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=877532 nor, --, mozilla24, surkov.alexander, VERI FIXED, IAccessible::accNavigate with NAVRELATION_* fails
  25. # [02:41] <@firebot> lsblakk@mozilla.com denied approval-mozilla-aurora for attachment 756425 on bug 877532.
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  27. # [03:09] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 852138 from --- to FIXED.
  28. # [03:09] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 852138 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  29. # [03:09] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=852138 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO FIXED, "ASSERTION: Adopting child!" in Accessible::BindToParent
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  39. # [05:10] <@firebot> bzbarsky@mit.edu requested needinfo from bugs@pettay.fi on bug 881504.
  40. # [05:10] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=881504 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in mozilla::a11y::DocManager::RemoveListeners
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  46. # [06:49] <@firebot> yura.zenevich@gmail.com cancelled review?(yura.zenevich@gmail .com) for attachment 760936 on bug 876475.
  47. # [06:49] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=876475 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, [AccessFu] Make braille output less verbose
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  54. # [07:46] <@tbsaunde> surkov: so I was looking at that crash in DocAcessible::UpdateTree() and it seems somehow child accessible doesn't have any content
  55. # [07:47] <@tbsaunde> which seems odd because I don't think we should handle documents or plugin accessibles there
  56. # [07:47] <@surkov> which bug number?
  57. # [07:47] <@tbsaunde> bu 881636
  58. # [07:52] <@surkov> tbsaunde: if we do GetContent() check then would it be a problem?
  59. # [07:53] <@tbsaunde> surkov: probably not? but I'd really like to understand how its possible
  60. # [07:54] <@tbsaunde> well, hm, what do we do with accessible if it has no content? should we remove it from tree or not? both could be risky
  61. # [07:54] <@surkov> so element is html:a, it's container is either document or some other accessible
  62. # [07:55] <@surkov> in either case every child should have a content, right?
  63. # [07:56] <@tbsaunde> I'd think so
  64. # [07:56] <@surkov> null check and assert
  65. # [07:56] <@surkov> no good ideas, sorry :)
  66. # [07:56] <@tbsaunde> maybe someone did <embed><a>hyperlink</a></embed> ?
  67. # [07:57] <@surkov> if that's not a plugin embed then we don't create a plugin
  68. # [07:57] <@surkov> otherwise we shouldn't create an accessible for html:a
  69. # [07:58] <@surkov> (I didn't check though)
  70. # [07:58] <@tbsaunde> yeah, I haven't checked either
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  77. # [09:58] <@tbsaunde> surkov: hey, so I'm working on bug 852129, if I make us create hyper text accessible instead of image accessible by changing what happens for imgs that have a nsInlineFrame and what AccessibleType() returns for the nsInlineFrame I get some interesting test failures the easiest one to see should be the img with id="img_eq" in name/test_general.html
  78. # [09:58] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=852129 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, "ASSERTION: Text leaf parent is not hypertext" with text node child of <img>
  79. # [09:59] <@tbsaunde> it seems we expect name to come from alt attribute but for some reason those cases get inline frames not nsImageFrames
  80. # [09:59] <@surkov> because of invalid src?
  81. # [10:00] <@tbsaunde> yeah, I bet so
  82. # [10:00] <@surkov> it's still an image in HTML and it seems HTML will require us to not ignore image specific attribute like @img
  83. # [10:00] <@tbsaunde> I guess I'll point them all at moz.png and see what happens
  84. # [10:01] <@tbsaunde> hm, maybe let me go see what the spec says
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  87. # [10:21] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ok, seems the spec says if src isn't present that alt is the value of the img
  88. # [10:22] <@surkov> so we should pick up an accessible name from it
  89. # [10:22] <@tbsaunde> surkov: seems so
  90. # [10:23] <@tbsaunde> should we just dump a special case in HyperTextAccessible::NativeName() or do you have better ideas? should ImageAccessible inherit from HyperTextAccessible maybe?
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  92. # [10:46] <@firebot> bugs@pettay.fi cancelled needinfo?(bugs@pettay.fi) on bug 881504.
  93. # [10:46] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=881504 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in mozilla::a11y::DocManager::RemoveListeners
  94. # [11:21] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com requested review from bzbarsky@mit.edu for attachment 761340 on bug 852129.
  95. # [11:21] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=852129 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, "ASSERTION: Text leaf parent is not hypertext" with text node child of <img>
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  101. # [13:07] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 761340 on bug 852129.
  102. # [13:07] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=852129 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, "ASSERTION: Text leaf parent is not hypertext" with text node child of <img>
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  116. # [15:25] <@davidb> heyo!
  117. # [15:27] <@marcoz> Hi davidb!
  118. # [15:27] <@davidb> hi hi
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  120. # [15:28] <@tbsaunde> hey
  121. # [15:31] <@davidb> heyo
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  133. # [17:31] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca cancelled review?(eitan@monotonous.or g) for attachment 760936 on bug 876475.
  134. # [17:31] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca requested review from eitan@monotonous.or g for attachment 761451 on bug 876475.
  135. # [17:32] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=876475 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, [AccessFu] Make braille output less verbose
  136. # [17:32] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca requested review from yura.zenevich@gmail .com for attachment 761451 on bug 876475.
  137. # [17:41] * @marcoz really likes how bug 876475 is shaping up. Testing both speech and braille utterances really *is* future-proof!
  138. # [17:42] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=876475 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, [AccessFu] Make braille output less verbose
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  145. # [18:15] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 670087 from nobody@mozilla.org to surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  146. # [18:15] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 761495 on bug 670087.
  147. # [18:15] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested superreview from roc@ocallahan. org for attachment 761495 on bug 670087.
  148. # [18:15] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 670087 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  149. # [18:15] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=670087 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, AccessibleObjectFromPoint returns incorrect accessible for popup menus
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  155. # [18:57] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 882281 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  156. # [18:57] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=882281 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, reorg getText* for line boundary
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  158. # [19:01] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 882292 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  159. # [19:01] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=882292 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, getTextAfterOffset for line boundary on new rails
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  166. # [19:18] <@eeejay> maxli, heyo
  167. # [19:19] <maxli> eeejay, hi
  168. # [19:20] <@eeejay> maxli, how tested is your patch for pre-jb devices, and no-brailleback devices?
  169. # [19:24] <maxli> eeejay, pretty much none and minimal respectively (especially since I don't have a pre-jb device)
  170. # [19:24] <@eeejay> maxli, you can test on an a device via emulator
  171. # [19:25] <maxli> eeejay, I don't know if I'm doing something wrong when I've tried those, but it (the emulator) always crashed before I even managed to turn on talkback
  172. # [19:25] <@eeejay> i'm removing yzen as a reviewer since he had a go already. next round i will add kats, since this touches the mobile module
  173. # [19:26] <@eeejay> maxli, hm, you may need to ask for a device then..\
  174. # [19:27] <@eeejay> maxli, jlin (or davidb) could probably set you up with one. extra points if it has a keyboard.
  175. # [19:27] <@davidb> jlin
  176. # [19:28] <@davidb> is faster
  177. # [19:29] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org cancelled review?(yura.zenevich@gmail .com) for attachment 761451 on bug 876475.
  178. # [19:29] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=876475 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, [AccessFu] Make braille output less verbose
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  185. # [19:48] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Assignee on bug 881453 from nobody@mozilla.org to eitan@monotonous.org.
  186. # [19:48] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=881453 nor, --, ---, eitan, NEW, [AccessFu] Cancel both touch and mouse events all the time
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  188. # [20:03] <@eeejay> yo maxli. on skype?
  189. # [20:05] <maxli> eeejay, okay be there in a min
  190. # [20:07] <@firebot> bzbarsky@mit.edu granted review for attachment 761340 on bug 852129.
  191. # [20:07] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=852129 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, "ASSERTION: Text leaf parent is not hypertext" with text node child of <img>
  192. # [20:13] <@davidb> tbsaunde: nice work sir
  193. # [20:14] <@davidb> at least so far :)
  194. # [20:14] <@davidb> i have to relocate
  195. # [20:14] <@davidb> ciao
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