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- # [06:00] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 884648 from nobody@mozilla.org to surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
- # [06:00] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 764553 on bug 884648.
- # [06:01] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 884648 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
- # [06:01] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=884648 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, no object attributes for aria-atomic="false"
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- # [11:56] <@firebot> ioana.budnar@softvision.ro set status-firefox22 to verified on bug 877532.
- # [11:56] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=877532 nor, --, mozilla24, surkov.alexander, VERI FIXED, IAccessible::accNavigate with NAVRELATION_* fails
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- # [15:05] <davidb|mobile> heyo
- # [15:09] <@tbsaunde> hey
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- # [16:23] <SteveF> davidb: you lookin' at me bolder? re the bug
- # [16:26] <@davidb> SteveF: no :)
- # [16:26] <SteveF> :-)
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- # [18:52] <@eeejay> hey maxli
- # [18:52] <maxli> eeejay: hi
- # [18:53] <@eeejay> maxli, yo. looking at your patch now, it looks great.
- # [18:54] <@eeejay> maxli, it has one issue, it probably won't work well with contenteditable.
- # [18:54] <@eeejay> maxli, but i am not sure how easy it would be to support that. at least it would not be a trivial patch
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- # [18:56] <@eeejay> maxli, have you done any testing with that? i guess my main concern now for this patch is that it should fail gracefully (whatever that means), and a followup bug/patch could remedy it.
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- # [19:02] <@eeejay> maxli, ?
- # [19:03] <maxli> eeejay, I just tried using it, as far as I can tell, even without my patch contenteditable doesn't work?
- # [19:03] <@eeejay> maxli, that could be! :)
- # [19:04] <maxli> eeejay (like in the sense I can't actually edit at all)
- # [19:04] <@eeejay> maxli, ok. besides that your patch looks great. mind filing a bug on how exactly contenteditable does not work?
- # [19:04] <@eeejay> maxli, put in steps to reproduce, and expected results
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- # [19:07] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested review from bugmail.mozilla@staktrace.com for attachment 764303 on bug 785852.
- # [19:07] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=785852 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, [AccessFu] Support editing mode navigation in Jelly Bean
- # [19:07] <@eeejay> maxli, great. lets just get kats's review.
- # [19:18] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 884918 filed by maxli@maxli.ca.
- # [19:18] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=884918 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Can't edit contentEditable elements
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- # [19:50] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com changed the Component on bug 884927 from Untriaged to Disability Access.
- # [19:50] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=884927 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Provide longdesc discoverability
- # [19:50] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com changed the Component on bug 884926 from Untriaged to Disability Access.
- # [19:50] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=884926 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Provide longdesc keyboard support
- # [19:53] <@davidb> tbsaunde: how's it going?
- # [19:59] <@eeejay> maxli, meet you soon on skype?
- # [19:59] <maxli> eeejay, sure
- # [19:59] <@davidb> !seen tbsaunde
- # [19:59] <@firebot> tbsaunde was last seen 4 hours, 49 minutes and 41 seconds ago, saying 'hey' in #accessibility.
- # [20:00] <@eeejay> maxli, call me when you are ready
- # [20:00] <@davidb> maxli,eeejay BTW might not get the braille display until work week.
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- # [20:27] <@eeejay> davidb, hm!
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- # [20:52] <yzen> eeejay: ping
- # [20:52] <@eeejay> yzen, hey
- # [20:52] <yzen> eeejay: a couple of questions re table|cell output
- # [20:52] <@eeejay> yzen, yup?
- # [20:52] <yzen> in case when cell is not the current accessible
- # [20:53] <yzen> would we also need to output all of the row column information ?
- # [20:53] <yzen> like we would when pivot changes from cell to cell
- # [20:53] <yzen> for example when cell is in ancestry
- # [20:54] <@eeejay> yzen, if i understand you correctly yes
- # [20:54] <@eeejay> yzen, if you are navigating in a table by text leafs, and you move to a new cell, you should know it
- # [20:55] <yzen> eeejay: and in case i stay in the same cell but switch from one leaf to another ?
- # [20:55] <@eeejay> yzen, then you don't want to hear anythingabout the table
- # [20:56] <yzen> i guess it is a common ancestor, right
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- # [20:58] <yzen> eeejay: cool that was one. another one was about the cell related attributes.. I was thinking it might make sense to make a new AccessibleCell object (perhaps in utils) that has those attributes at hand for the output generator. I'm talking about columnHeaders, rowExtent, etc
- # [20:59] <yzen> it would not be exported
- # [20:59] <@eeejay> yzen, yeah, maybe in the context object?
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- # [21:01] <yzen> i was thinking about something like that
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- # [21:03] <yzen> eeejay: oh and the reason i had question 1 in the first place: so when context.accessible is the cell it's all pretty strait forward, but in all other cases there's no old accessible at hand or the actual referent to the cell accessible from the perspective of the current context. hopefully i make sense ..
- # [21:03] <yzen> reference*
- # [21:04] <@eeejay> yzen, it is not that different than what we do now, we walk up the common heirarchy, if there is a cell in it, announce the cell change
- # [21:05] <@eeejay> yzen, by announce, i mean compare it to the previous pivot position's cell, and say, "next row", or whatever
- # [21:05] <yzen> eeejay: alright, i think i got it :)
- # [21:07] <@tbsaunde> davidb: not to terrible I guess
- # [21:07] <@davidb> tbsaunde: you have an appt tomorrow?
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- # [21:26] <yzen> eeejay: one more question, sorry :). So when utterance for cell is generated, we know everything about that cell. Lets say we can look at the old accessible or even ancestry, if there is a cell there we can assume that's the cell we need to compare the current one to?
- # [21:27] <@eeejay> yzen, not sure i understand, want to skype?
- # [21:27] <yzen> yep, but can i ping you as soon as i get off the Skype call I'm on right now :)
- # [21:27] <yzen> ?
- # [21:27] <@eeejay> yzen, yeah. i'll be back, headed out for 15
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- # [21:28] <yzen> eeejay: ok ill ping you then im yura.zen on skype
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- # [21:47] <yzen> eeejay: any time is good now
- # [21:53] <@davidb> he's probably eating lunch
- # [21:56] <@eeejay> davidb, we chatted. lunching now
- # [21:56] <@davidb> bon appetite
- # [21:56] <yzen> thanks eeejay
- # [22:00] <@firebot> bugmail.mozilla@staktrace.com granted review for attachment 764303 on bug 785852.
- # [22:00] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=785852 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, [AccessFu] Support editing mode navigation in Jelly Bean
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- # [22:20] <@eeejay> maxli, you should probably petition for access level 3
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- # [22:34] <maxli> eeejay, done; so um, do you vouch for me?
- # [22:35] <@eeejay> maxli, yup, i think we need others
- # [22:36] <@eeejay> maybe davidb would too. dunno, he is pretty unpredictable
- # [22:36] <@davidb> hee
- # [22:36] <@davidb> bug #?
- # [22:36] <maxli> he already did for level 1
- # [22:37] <@eeejay> bug 885003
- # [22:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885003 nor, --, ---, mozillamarcia.knous, NEW, Commit Access (Level 3) for Max Li
- # [22:37] <@davidb> done
- # [22:37] <@eeejay> maxli, cc kats
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