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  8. # [01:57] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 785852 from --- to FIXED.
  9. # [01:57] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 785852 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  10. # [01:57] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 785852 from --- to mozilla24.
  11. # [01:57] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=785852 nor, --, mozilla24, maxli, RESO FIXED, [AccessFu] Support editing mode navigation in Jelly Bean
  12. # [01:59] <@firebot> roc@ocallahan.org cancelled needinfo?(roc@ocallahan.org ) on bug 876540.
  13. # [01:59] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=876540 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, get_text_at_offset() sometimes returns the first line of text when given the final character's offse
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  89. # [15:56] <@marcoz> Hi davidb, maxli, eeejay: http://www.marcozehe.de/2013/06/21/new-features-for-talkback-users-in-firefox-for-android-24/
  90. # [15:56] <@davidb> heyo
  91. # [15:56] <@davidb> cool
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  99. # [16:27] <maxli> marcoz: Looks cool. Is it just me, or has the new default reading order not been landed yet? I don't see it on the most recent nightly
  100. # [16:27] <maxli> marcoz: also, there's a typo in the second last paragraph, should say 'all' and not 'al'
  101. # [16:30] <@marcoz> maxli: Argh, you're right! The reading order change hasn't landed yet because it still awaits review from a B2G peer. eeejay may want to ping them on the bug again so we can land this.
  102. # [16:30] <@marcoz> maxli: Will correct the typo.
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  104. # [16:36] <@marcoz> maxli: Updated with typo fix and re-worded section about the reading order. Thanks for catching that!
  105. # [16:36] <@marcoz> maxli: I changed that so long ago that I totally missed that it hadn't actually landed yet.
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  107. # [16:43] <yzen> marcoz: hi
  108. # [16:43] <@marcoz> Hi yzen!
  109. # [16:45] <yzen> marcoz: questions for you , do column and row headers need both INCLUDE_NAME and NAME_FROM_SUBTREE_RULE ? i found that if both are present? i found funky repetitions of name in that case
  110. # [16:46] <@marcoz> yzen: I believe our API already makes up the accessible.name from the sub tree for the column and row headers, and possibly also for the ordinary table cell.
  111. # [16:46] <@marcoz> yzen: So I believe if you just get the name it should suffice.
  112. # [16:47] <yzen> marcoz: right but i only prune the subtree for those that have NAME_FROM_SUBTREE_RULE
  113. # [16:47] <yzen> yzen: and if the name is explicit
  114. # [16:47] <yzen> marcoz: which is the case you describe
  115. # [16:48] <@marcoz> yzen: OK, so if you just get the name from sub tree, it should be OK.
  116. # [16:49] <yzen> marcoz: ok
  117. # [16:49] <@marcoz> yzen: Just choose the combination that gives the least redundancy. ;)
  118. # [16:49] <yzen> got it :)
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  123. # [17:16] <maxli> marcoz: I also noticed in the blog post that you still say you can't navigate by word or paragraph, does that still not work for you?
  124. # [17:17] <@davidb> marcoz: fwiw if you end up editing the blog, i'd take out 'After a while of rather slow progress' - sorry i didn't suggest it earlier.
  125. # [17:17] <@davidb> treat as optional nit of course
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  127. # [17:47] <@marcoz> davidb: Thanks, yeah I wasn't sure if I should keep it in or not. Any suggestions for alternative wording?
  128. # [17:47] <@marcoz> maxli: Nope, it didn't, I always navigated by character with TalkBack 3.3.2 on my Nexus 7. TalkBack 3.4 beta indeed only shows me Character as navigation option.
  129. # [17:49] <@davidb> marcoz: maybe "I have exciting news to share!" or something :)
  130. # [17:54] <maxli> marcoz: I just checked again and it works. If talkback 3.4 is only showing the character granularity I suspect you're still running an old version, since at a minimum it should show the other options with the landed patch
  131. # [17:54] <maxli> (whether or not the navigation works properly is another matter)
  132. # [17:54] <@marcoz> maxli: OK, let me try again.
  133. # [17:59] <@marcoz> maxli: OK, the nightly indeed does have word and paragraph navigation! \-O-/ Will update the blog post yet again! :)
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