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- # Session Start: Wed Jul 10 00:00:00 2013
- # Session Ident: #accessibility
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- # [00:42] <@firebot> zfang@mozilla.com cancelled needinfo?(zfang@mozilla.com ) on bug 881937.
- # [00:42] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=881937 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, The Australis panel menu should be keyboard accessible
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- # [00:49] <bsmedberg> In XUL, what's the markup for a generic close button that displays an "X" icon?
- # [00:50] <bsmedberg> that is, the accessible markup
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- # [00:57] <bsmedberg> hey marcoz!
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- # [00:59] <@marcoz> Hi bsmedberg! :)
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- # [01:00] <bsmedberg> marcoz: can I get you to test a page for plugin UI and tell me whether it's usable?
- # [01:03] <@marcoz> bsmedberg: Certainly! Throw a bug number and try server build at me, preferably for Windows, and we're good to go. ;-)
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- # [01:04] <@marcoz> bsmedberg: Oh, or is this just the markup you want to inject into other pages in the future? In that case, a URL will suffice! :)
- # [01:04] <bsmedberg> marcoz: yeah, just markup: http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/icons-shorlander/showit.html
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- # [01:05] <@marcoz> bsmedberg: A sec.
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- # [01:10] <@marcoz> bsmedberg: OK, here are my thoughts:
- # [01:12] <@marcoz> 1. Why do you encapsulate an input of type image within a label, and then have inner text in it? I would put the text into the alt attribute for that input instead, if it is not meant to be shown on-screen, and get rid of the label around it alltogether.
- # [01:13] <@marcoz> bsmedberg: What happens now is that the text appears twice: Once as the caption for the button, once as plain inner text below it.
- # [01:13] <@marcoz> bsmedberg: 2. The close boxes, except for the last one, are not accessible. They should have either alt text or an aria-label.
- # [01:13] <bsmedberg> There is no inner text in it
- # [01:14] <bsmedberg> oh, I just didn't add the title="" to the other two
- # [01:14] <bsmedberg> marcoz: so the last close button is ok?
- # [01:15] <@marcoz> bsmedberg: The last one is OK, yes. There is a problem with that "check for updates" 'link' above it. Because it does not have an href, it is not recognized as a link, but viewed as anchor text. As such, screen readers will not click it.
- # [01:15] <bsmedberg> ah, just a sec
- # [01:16] <bsmedberg> try again
- # [01:16] <@marcoz> bsmedberg: Oh I now see what you are doing with that label and input and div with text from my comments above: You're making the icon clickable, but not the text. And the text is being picked up twice because the label logic makes it assign the text to the first inner input. Hhmmmmm.
- # [01:19] <@marcoz> bsmedberg: OK, this looks better. One problem remaining: 107 <input type="image" src="pluginArea-blocked.png" class="center-icon"></button>
- # [01:19] <@marcoz> bsmedberg: This needs an alt= with meaningful text, or it is just an unlabeled button.
- # [01:20] <bsmedberg> ah, I didn't fix the <label> there
- # [01:20] <@marcoz> bsmedberg: :)
- # [01:22] <@marcoz> bsmedberg: If you're interested what your markup is being converted into in the accessibility layer, you can install DOMi and go to the View menu and then view the Accessibility Tree instead of the DOM tree. This will show you what elements we make up, what names they get, which is in essence what screen readers will read.
- # [01:22] <bsmedberg> ok thanks!
- # [01:22] * bsmedberg didn't know that
- # [01:24] <@marcoz> bsmedberg: I just refreshed again, and this looks OK now. That duplicated text we can live with for now I think. I see why you're doing it, you're making both the image and text clickable this way.
- # [01:24] <bsmedberg> yes
- # [01:24] <@marcoz> bsmedberg: r+. ;)
- # [01:25] <bsmedberg> thank you!
- # [01:25] <@marcoz> bsmedberg: you're welcome!
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- # [14:45] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 891338 from nobody@mozilla.org to surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
- # [14:45] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=891338 maj, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, Context menu accessibility broken
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- # [15:35] <@firebot> yura.zenevich@gmail.com requested review from marco.zehe@googlema il.com for attachment 773258 on bug 891335.
- # [15:35] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=891335 nor, --, ---, yura.zenevich, NEW, [AccessFu] Make lists with only one item use the singular form of "List one item"
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- # [15:40] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org granted review for attachment 773258 on bug 891335.
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- # [16:15] <@firebot> yura.zenevich@gmail.com requested review from eitan@monotonous.or g for attachment 773271 on bug 874474.
- # [16:15] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=874474 nor, --, ---, yura.zenevich, NEW, [AccessFu] Make description last be the default utterance order.
- # [16:17] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org granted review for attachment 773271 on bug 874474.
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- # [16:21] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=891335 nor, --, ---, yura.zenevich, NEW, [AccessFu] Make lists with only one item use the singular form of "List one item"
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- # [16:29] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com granted review for attachment 773278 on bug 891335.
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- # [16:30] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=874474 nor, --, ---, yura.zenevich, NEW, [AccessFu] Make description last be the default utterance order.
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- # [16:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=891335 nor, --, ---, yura.zenevich, NEW, [AccessFu] Make lists with only one item use the singular form of "List one item"
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- # [17:37] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com changed the Resolution on bug 837586 from --- to WORKSFORME.
- # [17:37] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com changed the Status on bug 837586 from NEW to RESOLVED.
- # [17:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=837586 maj, --, ---, surkov.alexander, RESO WORKSFORME, In Firefox 20 (Aurora), pages with iFrames break iSimpleDOM access
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- # [18:47] <@davidb> yzen: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/
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- # [18:48] <@davidb> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/complete
- # [18:48] <@davidb> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/complete#aria-live
- # [18:48] <@davidb> off, polite, assertive
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- # [19:24] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 891967 filed by maxli@maxli.ca.
- # [19:24] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=891967 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, [AccessFu] Show caret in braille when editing
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- # [19:54] <yzen> marcoz, eeejay: in context of live regions do we still want to support only events from user input ?
- # [19:54] <@eeejay> yzen, no
- # [20:04] <@marcoz> yzen: Definitely not, since these are events generated by the web page, most likely JavaScript.
- # [20:05] <yzen> eeejay, marcoz: thanks
- # [20:06] <@davidb> stuff like "completed", which can be good to know
- # [20:11] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 810268 from nobody@mozilla.org to surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
- # [20:11] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 773418 on bug 810268.
- # [20:12] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 810268 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
- # [20:12] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=810268 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, there's no way to know unselected item when selection in single selection was changed
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- # [20:24] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 892000 filed by maxli@maxli.ca.
- # [20:24] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=892000 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, [AccessFu] Wrong context menu opens when long pressing
- # [20:27] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 888256 from --- to FIXED.
- # [20:27] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 888256 from NEW to RESOLVED.
- # [20:27] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 888256 from --- to mozilla25.
- # [20:27] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=888256 nor, --, mozilla25, yura.zenevich, RESO FIXED, [AccessFu] Speak landmarks
- # [20:27] * davidb sets mode: +o yzen
- # [20:27] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 878515 from --- to FIXED.
- # [20:27] * davidb sets mode: +o maxli
- # [20:27] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 878515 from NEW to RESOLVED.
- # [20:27] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 878515 from --- to mozilla25.
- # [20:27] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=878515 nor, --, mozilla25, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, getTextAtOffset line boundary may return a wrong line in case of soft line breaks
- # [20:28] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 890940 from --- to FIXED.
- # [20:28] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 890940 from NEW to RESOLVED.
- # [20:28] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 890940 from --- to mozilla25.
- # [20:28] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=890940 nor, --, mozilla25, maxli, RESO FIXED, [AccessFu] Visual bounds box is very wrong
- # [20:30] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 886074 from --- to FIXED.
- # [20:30] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 886074 from NEW to RESOLVED.
- # [20:30] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 886074 from --- to mozilla25.
- # [20:30] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=886074 nor, --, mozilla25, maxli, RESO FIXED, [AccessFu] Braille should update when editing
- # [20:30] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 886075 from --- to FIXED.
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- # [20:30] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 886075 from --- to mozilla25.
- # [20:30] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=886075 nor, --, mozilla25, maxli, RESO FIXED, [AccessFu] Should be able to move caret with braille
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- # [21:06] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca requested review from eitan@monotonous.or g for attachment 773457 on bug 892000.
- # [21:06] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=892000 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, [AccessFu] Wrong context menu opens when long pressing
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- # [21:22] <@surkov> davidb: you might want to look at bug 890252
- # [21:22] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=890252 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO INVALID, File Inputs not usable on websites with dark background
- # [21:23] <@surkov> davidb: I meant of course you don't want but I meant your insight might be helpful :)
- # [21:24] <@davidb> understood :)
- # [21:26] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 773485 on bug 891338.
- # [21:26] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested feedback from marco.zehe@google mail.com for attachment 773485 on bug 891338.
- # [21:27] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=891338 maj, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, Context menu accessibility broken
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- # [22:16] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com denied feedback for attachment 773485 on bug 891338.
- # [22:16] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=891338 maj, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, Context menu accessibility broken
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- # [23:06] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 892091 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
- # [23:06] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=892091 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, treegrid should be editable by default
- # [23:07] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com granted review for attachment 773457 on bug 892000.
- # [23:07] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=892000 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, [AccessFu] Wrong context menu opens when long pressing
- # [23:09] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 892091 from nobody@mozilla.org to surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
- # [23:09] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 773549 on bug 892091.
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- # [23:46] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com granted review for attachment 773549 on bug 892091.
- # [23:46] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=892091 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, ARIA treegrid should be editable by default
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