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  10. # [00:25] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 894086 filed by eitan@monotonous.org.
  11. # [00:25] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=894086 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] stop using doAction altogether and simply synthesize tap
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  13. # [00:29] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested review from dbolter@mozilla.com for attachment 775985 on bug 894086.
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  67. # [11:05] <@firebot> emorley@mozilla.com changed the Assignee on bug 892607 from nobody@mozilla.org to eitan@monotonous.org.
  68. # [11:05] <@firebot> emorley@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 892607 from --- to FIXED.
  69. # [11:06] <@firebot> emorley@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 892607 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  70. # [11:06] <@firebot> emorley@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 892607 from --- to mozilla25.
  71. # [11:06] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=892607 nor, --, mozilla25, eitan, RESO FIXED, Don't traverse pivot inside of ignored subtree.
  72. # [11:09] <@firebot> emorley@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 882292 from --- to FIXED.
  73. # [11:09] <@firebot> emorley@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 882292 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  74. # [11:09] <@firebot> emorley@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 882292 from --- to mozilla25.
  75. # [11:09] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=882292 nor, --, mozilla25, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, getTextAfterOffset for line boundary on new rails
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  86. # [13:52] <@firebot> gijskruitbosch+bugs@gmail.com requested needinfo from jryans@gmail.com on bug 893359.
  87. # [13:52] <@firebot> gijskruitbosch+bugs@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 893359 from UNCONFIRMED to NEW.
  88. # [13:52] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=893359 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Ctrl+w no longer deletes last word or to last slash.
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  103. # [15:04] <@davidb> heyo!
  104. # [15:04] <@davidb> marcoz: do you recall what slot we were going to move the meeting to?
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  106. # [15:12] <@tbsaunde> hey
  107. # [15:13] <@marcoz> Hi davidb, 10AM EDT. Says my calendar.
  108. # [15:14] <@davidb> marcoz: oh hey sorry I was thinking about team meetings
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  110. # [15:14] <@davidb> hi tbsaunde
  111. # [15:15] <@marcoz> davidb: No final decision reached. eeejayHas an appointment tomorrow which conflicts, and you're unavailable next week. This is the current status.
  112. # [15:16] <@davidb> right
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  114. # [15:16] <@davidb> I was specifically thinking about a permanent move… I think we were thinking a bit later, maybe 30 minutes, and on monday or tuesday
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  117. # [15:19] <@marcoz> davidb: Ah, *that*! We thought about moving to Monday, since that is a good time before the eng meeting on Tuesdays, and to 11:30 EDT.
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  119. # [15:19] <@davidb> thankyou haha
  120. # [15:19] <@davidb> is 11:30 too late for you?
  121. # [15:20] <@marcoz> davidb: No, that translates to 5:30PM CEST, which is half an hour before my closure for the day. Roughly.
  122. # [15:20] <@marcoz> I usually go off between 6 and 6:15PM.
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  124. # [15:20] <@marcoz> s/off/offline/
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  131. # [16:02] <@marcoz> davidb: Ready when you are.
  132. # [16:02] <@davidb> ok 1 min
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  134. # [16:30] <@firebot> gijskruitbosch+bugs@gmail.com requested review from mdeboer@mozilla.com for attachment 776388 on bug 881937.
  135. # [16:30] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=881937 nor, --, ---, gijskruitbosch+bugs, ASSI, The Australis panel menu should be keyboard accessible
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  141. # [17:10] <@firebot> jryans@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 893359 from nobody@mozilla.org to jryans@gmail.com.
  142. # [17:10] <@firebot> jryans@gmail.com requested needinfo from neil@httl.net on bug 893359.
  143. # [17:10] <@firebot> jryans@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 893359 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  144. # [17:10] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=893359 nor, --, ---, jryans, ASSI, Ctrl+w no longer deletes last word or to last slash.
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  150. # [17:45] <@firebot> jboriss@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 884926 from --- to WORKSFORME.
  151. # [17:45] <@firebot> jboriss@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 884926 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED.
  152. # [17:45] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=884926 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, Provide longdesc keyboard support
  153. # [17:45] <@marcoz> OMG
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  155. # [17:46] * @marcoz can hear Mr. Foliot and MS. Carlson sharpen their knives and load their guns. ;)
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  157. # [18:04] <clown> marcoz: isn't it simply a question of "right, but how do you put keyboard focus on the <img> with longdesc"?
  158. # [18:10] <@marcoz> clown: That is the problem, I believe my dear colleague didn't consider that when she closed the bug.
  159. # [18:15] <@marcoz> eeejay: Hi! If you're around already: Anything you need from me urgently before I head off for the evening?
  160. # [18:19] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 894451 filed by jboriss@mozilla.com.
  161. # [18:19] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=894451 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, Expose longdesc in image link context menus
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  167. # [18:39] <@firebot> neil@httl.net cancelled needinfo?(neil@httl.net) on bug 893359.
  168. # [18:39] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=893359 nor, --, ---, jryans, ASSI, Ctrl+w no longer deletes last word or to last slash.
  169. # [18:42] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca changed the Resolution on bug 894451 from --- to WORKSFORME.
  170. # [18:42] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca changed the Status on bug 894451 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  171. # [18:42] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=894451 nor, --, ---, maxli, RESO WORKSFORME, Expose longdesc in image link context menus
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  177. # [18:48] <@firebot> jryans@gmail.com requested needinfo from masayuki@d-toybox .com on bug 893359.
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  183. # [18:55] <satdav> davidb, ping
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  192. # [19:32] <@firebot> masayuki@d-toybox.com cancelled needinfo?(masayuki@d-toybox .com) on bug 893359.
  193. # [19:32] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=893359 nor, --, ---, jryans, ASSI, Ctrl+w no longer deletes last word or to last slash.
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  198. # [19:42] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 894485 filed by eitan@monotonous.org.
  199. # [19:42] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=894485 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Don't rely on roles and click listeners for default doAction()
  200. # [19:44] <@eeejay> surkov, let me know what you think of my summary here ^
  201. # [19:44] <@davidb> eeejay: where would this typically take us? vc.moveFirst(TraversalRules.Simple);
  202. # [19:45] <@eeejay> davidb, to the first item on the page that answers that rule
  203. # [19:45] <@surkov> eeejay: sure
  204. # [19:45] <@davidb> eeejay: starting from the root?
  205. # [19:45] <@eeejay> davidb, yep
  206. # [19:45] <@davidb> ok
  207. # [19:46] <satdav> davidb, you free
  208. # [19:46] <@davidb> satdav: in the middle of patch review
  209. # [19:46] <@eeejay> surkov, i would like to have a much more powerful and expressive action API. that is why I think IndieUI is so great.
  210. # [19:46] <satdav> Ok
  211. # [19:47] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca requested review from eitan@monotonous.or g for attachment 776514 on bug 890940.
  212. # [19:47] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=890940 nor, --, mozilla25, maxli, REOP, [AccessFu] Visual bounds box is very wrong
  213. # [19:48] <@surkov> eeejay: people will continue to use divs and clicks and other crazy things they do :)
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  215. # [19:49] <@eeejay> surkov, true. that is reality. that is why i proposed the bug above. but i think we should support a higher standard, in the same way that aria is supplemental
  216. # [19:50] <satdav> davidb, you herd from ken recently
  217. # [19:53] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca granted review for attachment 774852 on bug 893153.
  218. # [19:53] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=893153 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Navigation continues in hidden iframes
  219. # [19:54] <@davidb> eeejay: how did you figure you needed to deep copy the messages?
  220. # [19:54] <@davidb> i mean to copy them at all
  221. # [19:54] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from roc@ocallahan.org for attachment 776521 on bug 891338.
  222. # [19:54] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested feedback from marco.zehe@google mail.com for attachment 776521 on bug 891338.
  223. # [19:54] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=891338 maj, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, Popup accessibility broken
  224. # [19:55] * @davidb checks comments
  225. # [19:59] <@davidb> oh i see
  226. # [20:01] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com granted review for attachment 774852 on bug 893153.
  227. # [20:01] <satdav> davidb, I am speaking to the team at ux and www we are wondering if their is any training we can get for mozillians or staff about accessibility
  228. # [20:01] <satdav> or can you guys do a custom one
  229. # [20:02] <@davidb> hi satdav. accessibility is enormous… what aspects in particular?
  230. # [20:02] * @davidb heads to a meeting
  231. # [20:02] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca granted review for attachment 774852 on bug 893153.
  232. # [20:02] <satdav> davidb, websites
  233. # [20:02] <satdav> like for the content and sites
  234. # [20:06] <@hub> davidb: I see you ;-)
  235. # [20:06] <@davidb> hi!
  236. # [20:06] <@davidb> satdav: it is worth asking the greater community as well.
  237. # [20:07] <@davidb> i like to get a11y people who are doing web development full time
  238. # [20:07] <@eeejay> davidb, i am not sure we do. but it seems really wrong (and bug-prone) to amend messages
  239. # [20:08] <satdav> davidb, we are looking for anyone to do it
  240. # [20:09] <@davidb> eeejay: the copying probably takes time… but so does marshaling
  241. # [20:09] <@eeejay> yeah :P
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  243. # [20:15] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com requested needinfo from marco.zehe@google mail.com on bug 727819.
  244. # [20:15] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727819 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Make PDF.js accessible
  245. # [20:17] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org cancelled review?(eitan@monotonous.or g) for attachment 776514 on bug 890940.
  246. # [20:17] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=890940 nor, --, mozilla25, maxli, REOP, [AccessFu] Visual bounds box is very wrong
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  249. # [20:29] <@surkov> tbsaunde: progress on bug 888981?
  250. # [20:29] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=888981 cri, --, ---, trev.saunders, NEW, DownThemAll! causes browser to hang indefinitely
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  252. # [20:34] <@davidb> tbsaunde: also, go get your prescription and get some rest.
  253. # [20:36] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I'm not actually doing any work just looking at lkml and irc
  254. # [20:37] <@davidb> oh… Torvalds yelling at people?
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  260. # [20:49] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Assignee on bug 893153 from nobody@mozilla.org to eitan@monotonous.org.
  261. # [20:49] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=893153 nor, --, ---, eitan, NEW, [AccessFu] Navigation continues in hidden iframes
  262. # [20:51] <@eeejay> pro tip: don't name your inaccessible mobile app development framework after a war criminal (kony.com)
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  265. # [21:05] <@tbsaunde> davidb__: yeah, more or less the usual, but its always sort of funny
  266. # [21:06] <@tbsaunde> surkov: I came up with a plan for not doing the nsIAccessibleProvider stuff when we don't want to run js but I need to fiddle some xbl crude
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  272. # [21:28] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 894547 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  273. # [21:28] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=894547 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, move tests abstraction up for at caret offset text testing
  274. # [21:29] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 894547 from nobody@mozilla.org to surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
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  279. # [22:08] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 894573 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  280. # [22:08] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=894573 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, ARIA state mapping should treat undefined value same way if value was missed
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  283. # [22:16] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 894573 from nobody@mozilla.org to surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  284. # [22:16] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 776644 on bug 894573.
  285. # [22:17] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 894573 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
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  290. # [22:32] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 776644 on bug 894573.
  291. # [22:32] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 776654 on bug 894573.
  292. # [22:32] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=894573 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, ARIA state mapping should treat undefined value same way if value was missed
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  294. # [22:51] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 894601 filed by eitan@monotonous.org.
  295. # [22:51] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=894601 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] context menu in android is broken
  296. # [22:51] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Assignee on bug 894601 from nobody@mozilla.org to eitan@monotonous.org.
  297. # [22:53] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested review from maxli@maxli.ca for attachment 776668 on bug 894601.
  298. # [22:57] <yzen> eeejay: hi
  299. # [22:57] <@eeejay> yzen, hiedi ho
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  301. # [22:58] <yzen> eeejay: I'm almost wrapped up with the live region tests , just wanted to confirm with you, the text show hide is already handled when it's triggered by the user, is that right? if so, live regions should handle text events when they are not user based, right?
  302. # [22:59] <@eeejay> correct, live regions are not user input
  303. # [22:59] <@firebot> roc@ocallahan.org granted review for attachment 776521 on bug 891338.
  304. # [22:59] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=891338 maj, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, Popup accessibility broken
  305. # [23:00] <yzen> eeejay: great, i think ill have something feedback worthy by tomorrow :)
  306. # [23:00] <@eeejay> yzen, excellent!
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  308. # [23:06] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca granted review for attachment 776668 on bug 894601.
  309. # [23:06] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=894601 nor, --, ---, eitan, NEW, [AccessFu] context menu in android is broken
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  311. # [23:08] <@eeejay> maxli_, are you around?
  312. # [23:17] <maxli_> eeejay: yes
  313. # [23:18] <@eeejay> maxli_, ah, already forgot what i wanted.. i'm playing around with the adjust bounds stuff because i am making scrolling work similar to the contextmenu thing you did
  314. # [23:18] <@eeejay> i have two questions:
  315. # [23:18] <@eeejay> 1. you simply use aMessage.x in activateContextMenu
  316. # [23:18] <@eeejay> shouldn't it be aMessage.json.x?
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  318. # [23:19] <@eeejay> and more importantly, would the function _adjustBounds work for translating those coords?
  319. # [23:20] <maxli_> eeejay: the caller sets the argument to aMessage.json (so admitedly the parameter isn't really a message in the same sense as the others)
  320. # [23:22] <@eeejay> maxli_, hm. you or i should change that. readibility really declines quickly when we don't have some type discipline
  321. # [23:22] <maxli_> eeejay: assuming the coords you're passing are screen coords, the same transformations should work
  322. # [23:22] <@eeejay> maxli_, ok. i'm moving it to utils
  323. # [23:22] <@eeejay> and using it
  324. # [23:23] * @eeejay will write up a patch
  325. # [23:23] <@eeejay> maxli_, your other coords work may need to be rebased on it, or the other way around :)
  326. # [23:25] <@eeejay> k, gotta run
  327. # [23:25] <@eeejay> bbiab
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