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  22. # [04:55] <@firebot> kwierso@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 890353 from --- to FIXED.
  23. # [04:55] <@firebot> kwierso@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 890353 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  24. # [04:55] <@firebot> kwierso@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 890353 from --- to mozilla25.
  25. # [04:56] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=890353 nor, --, mozilla25, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, move get text for line boundary tests into separate file
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  78. # [13:49] <@firebot> petruta.rasa@softvision.ro requested needinfo from nfagerlund@gmail. com on bug 896305.
  79. # [13:49] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=896305 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Regression: Ctrl-a, ctrl-e, and ctrl-k keyboard shortcuts stopped working on OS X
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  84. # [14:14] <@marcoz> Morning surkov! :)
  85. # [14:14] <@surkov> marcoz: morning!
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  87. # [14:22] <davidb|pto> Heyo
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  90. # [14:30] <@marcoz> Heyo davidb!
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  96. # [14:41] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted in-testsuite on bug 893166.
  97. # [14:41] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=893166 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, getTextBeforeOffset line end fails on wrapped lines
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  103. # [14:53] <@marcoz> Morning maxli!
  104. # [14:54] <maxli> marcoz: Good morning marcoz!
  105. # [14:55] <@marcoz> maxli: eeejay told me yesterday that you were looking into Android 4.3 compatibility. I just installed the SDK updates and looked at the docs. Except for AccessibleNodeInfo, there is not much new from our perspective, right?
  106. # [14:56] <@marcoz> (I mean the few new constants and the stuff w.r.t. text selection in AccessibleNodeInfo.)
  107. # [14:56] <maxli> marcoz: Yes, just AccessibilityNodeInfo things
  108. # [14:56] <@marcoz> maxli: So, when users update to 4.3, Firefox will just continue to work, right?
  109. # [14:57] <maxli> marcoz: It should.
  110. # [14:58] <@marcoz> maxli: Cool! None of my devices was offered the update yet, so I could not test this for myself yet.
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  117. # [15:34] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 780611 on bug 886076.
  118. # [15:34] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 780959 on bug 886076.
  119. # [15:34] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=886076 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, [AccessFu] Support movement by granularity
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  130. # [16:59] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 779986 on bug 886076.
  131. # [16:59] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=886076 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, [AccessFu] Support movement by granularity
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  133. # [17:16] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 896326 from nobody@mozilla.org to surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  134. # [17:16] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 781002 on bug 896326.
  135. # [17:16] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 896326 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  136. # [17:16] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=896326 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, Accessibility may return empty lines where there are embedded objects
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  139. # [17:30] <@firebot> emorley@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 893166 from --- to FIXED.
  140. # [17:30] <@firebot> emorley@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 893166 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  141. # [17:30] <@firebot> emorley@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 893166 from --- to mozilla25.
  142. # [17:30] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=893166 nor, --, mozilla25, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, getTextBeforeOffset line end fails on wrapped lines
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  145. # [17:48] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 780959 on bug 886076.
  146. # [17:49] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 781021 on bug 886076.
  147. # [17:49] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=886076 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, [AccessFu] Support movement by granularity
  148. # [17:55] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Assignee on bug 894485 from nobody@mozilla.org to eitan@monotonous.org.
  149. # [17:55] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=894485 nor, --, ---, eitan, NEW, Don't rely on roles and click listeners for default doAction()
  150. # [17:57] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 898002 filed by eitan@monotonous.org.
  151. # [17:57] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=898002 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Ignore synthesized touch events
  152. # [18:00] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested review from yura.zenevich@gmail .com for attachment 781027 on bug 898002.
  153. # [18:01] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Assignee on bug 898002 from nobody@mozilla.org to eitan@monotonous.org.
  154. # [18:06] <@marcoz> eeejay: Hi! Curious: Why do you bail out at the points you do in bug 898002 and not earlier? E. G. why do you let these assignments happen before you determine that these touches are synthesized?
  155. # [18:06] <@eeejay> marcoz, no good reason
  156. # [18:07] <@eeejay> marcoz, we could peak at the list earlier, i guess
  157. # [18:07] <@eeejay> marcoz, that is a good idea :)
  158. # [18:07] <@marcoz> eeejay: I mean, do we need to go into the for loop at all if the touches are synthesized?
  159. # [18:08] <@eeejay> marcoz, we really just care about touch events with a single touch and the identifier of -1, so i will revise that patch.
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  161. # [18:09] <@marcoz> eeejay: :) Hope you don't mind me jumping in even though you requested review from yzen, not me. :)
  162. # [18:09] <@eeejay> marcoz, since you did, i'll put you as reviewer in the next patch
  163. # [18:11] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 898008 filed by eitan@monotonous.org.
  164. # [18:11] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=898008 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Use wheel event for scrolling
  165. # [18:12] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org cancelled review?(yura.zenevich@gmail .com) for attachment 781027 on bug 898002.
  166. # [18:12] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=898002 nor, --, ---, eitan, NEW, [AccessFu] Ignore synthesized touch events
  167. # [18:14] <@marcoz> eeejay: OK, I'll have dinner soon, but will take a look afterwards and r+ so you can land close to the other patches. :)
  168. # [18:14] <@eeejay> marcoz, thanks!
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  170. # [18:20] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca cancelled review?(surkov.alexander@gm ail.com) for attachment 781021 on bug 886076.
  171. # [18:20] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 781039 on bug 886076.
  172. # [18:20] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=886076 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, [AccessFu] Support movement by granularity
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  174. # [18:23] <briansmith> Hi, I am visiting the Toronto office today and I am interested in talking to somebody about making accessibility features work in multi-process Firefox, which we are prototyping
  175. # [18:24] <briansmith> Are there people in the Toronto office that would be available today or tomorrow (perhaps better) that would like to talk about such things?
  176. # [18:25] <@hub> briansmith: talk to davidb, tbsaunde or surkov
  177. # [18:26] <@surkov> briansmith: I think I'm in the office today and tomorrow. Not sure about tbsaunde
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  179. # [18:37] <briansmith> surkov hub: thanks. I will try to schedule some meeting to chat between davidb, tbsaunde surkov, and I
  180. # [18:38] <@marcoz> briansmith: davidb is unavailable today, but tbsaunde and surkov should be good addressees. :)
  181. # [18:38] <briansmith> thanks
  182. # [18:45] <@hub> marcoz: btw I got trolled on twitter by robweir.... *sigh*
  183. # [18:46] <@marcoz> hub: I saw it, he mentioned me too.
  184. # [18:46] <@marcoz> hub: I chose to ignore him, he obviously didn't read what I had been talking about initially.
  185. # [18:47] <@hub> marcoz: if there is one person making the whole LibreOffice / OpenOffice split nasty, it is him
  186. # [18:47] <@hub> marcoz: of course he didn't read it. because he has no excuse do give on that
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  188. # [18:52] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 781039 on bug 886076.
  189. # [18:52] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=886076 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, [AccessFu] Support movement by granularity
  190. # [18:54] <@marcoz> hub: Is he one of the developers on that project?
  191. # [18:55] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested review from marco.zehe@googlema il.com for attachment 781061 on bug 898002.
  192. # [18:55] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=898002 nor, --, ---, eitan, NEW, [AccessFu] Ignore synthesized touch events
  193. # [18:58] <@marcoz> eeejay: Just quickly because the diff didn't give me the whole context: This pertains to both Android and Firefox OS, right?
  194. # [18:58] <@hub> marcoz: worse. He is the IBM chill. He doesn't write code at all. But I believe he was instrumental in relicensing OOo (c) Oracle to Apache license
  195. # [18:58] <@hub> marcoz: so that they could continue to proprietarize it into Lotus Symphony
  196. # [18:59] <@eeejay> marcoz, yeah
  197. # [18:59] <@marcoz> hub: Yeah but they *discontinued* Lotus Symphony in favor of OpenOffice and donated code to it to get all the features they wanted in.
  198. # [18:59] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com granted review for attachment 781061 on bug 898002.
  199. # [19:00] <@marcoz> eeejay: Perfect. Here you go!
  200. # [19:00] <@eeejay> excellent
  201. # [19:01] <@tbsaunde> briansmith: any time today or tomorrow should be good
  202. # [19:01] <@hub> marcoz: also he hates LibreOffice because it stuck to LGPL, they can't use it
  203. # [19:01] <@hub> marcoz: anyway.
  204. # [19:01] <@marcoz> eeejay: OK, am off for the evening, but may check back on bugmail later before going to bed. In case there's anything else. :) See you tomorow!
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  206. # [19:11] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org requested review from maxli@maxli.ca for attachment 781066 on bug 898008.
  207. # [19:11] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=898008 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Use wheel event for scrolling
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  214. # [20:25] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled review?(trev.saunders@gmail .com) for attachment 780519 on bug 893812.
  215. # [20:25] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=893812 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, tweak document shutdown order
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  218. # [20:43] <@tbsaunde> surkov: does toolkit/content/widgets/listbox.xml:1107 make much sense to you? I don't really see why its necessary
  219. # [20:46] <@tbsaunde> somebody making a listcell in xul outside of a proper list feels a lot like a random <div role=listitem> to me
  220. # [20:49] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 781002 on bug 896326.
  221. # [20:49] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=896326 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, Accessibility may return empty lines where there are embedded objects
  222. # [20:51] <@surkov> tbsaunde: I think single column listbox is just a listbox and it doesn't have cells but on XUL implementation layer it has cells
  223. # [20:51] <@surkov> so we don't want to expose them
  224. # [20:52] <@tbsaunde> surkov: as in list items always have one cell in xul?
  225. # [20:52] <@surkov> tbsaunde: I think so
  226. # [20:53] <@tbsaunde> bleh
  227. # [20:59] * @tbsaunde reimplements crap in C++
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  231. # [21:24] <@tbsaunde> surkov: can you think of a nice way of reimplementing that xbl code in c++ that doesn't end up duplicating XULListBoxAccessible::ColCount()?
  232. # [21:26] <@surkov> tbsaunde: probably ColCount() is reliable way, otherwise you check children
  233. # [21:27] <@surkov> tbsaunde: but why do you want to extract this logic from XBL?
  234. # [21:27] <@tbsaunde> surkov: so we don't have to call into js during accessible creation
  235. # [21:27] <@surkov> I see
  236. # [21:29] <@surkov> probably you need to see how many children are
  237. # [21:29] <@surkov> if only one and list cell then ignore it
  238. # [21:30] <@tbsaunde> surkov: you mean go up to parent which should be list item then look?
  239. # [21:30] <@surkov> ah, if you are cell then possibly siblings
  240. # [21:30] <@surkov> at cell
  241. # [21:31] <@tbsaunde> surkov: yeah
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  246. # [22:02] <@tbsaunde> surkov: so one catch is in addition to listcell there's also listcell-checkbox listcell-checkbox-iconic listcell-iconic
  247. # [22:03] <@tbsaunde> I'm not really sure if we want to count those or not
  248. # [22:04] <@surkov> tbsaunde: are those classes or what?
  249. # [22:05] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca granted review for attachment 781066 on bug 898008.
  250. # [22:05] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=898008 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Use wheel event for scrolling
  251. # [22:06] <@tbsaunde> surkov: they're xbl bindings
  252. # [22:08] <@surkov> tbsaunde: what we need to do about them?
  253. # [22:08] <@tbsaunde> though maybe they always get tag listcell and other stuff comes from css magic
  254. # [22:08] <@firebot> maxli@maxli.ca requested review from surkov.alexander@gm ail.com for attachment 781181 on bug 690199.
  255. # [22:08] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690199 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, ARIA select widget should expose focusable state regardless the way they manage its children
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  257. # [22:19] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 781181 on bug 690199.
  258. # [22:19] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690199 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, ARIA select widget should expose focusable state regardless the way they manage its children
  259. # [22:20] <@surkov> tbsaunde: this sounds correct
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