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  14. # [01:49] <@firebot> lhenry@mozilla.com changed the Component on bug 898737 from Untriaged to Keyboard Navigation.
  15. # [01:49] <@firebot> lhenry@mozilla.com requested needinfo from jamie@kitten-x.co m on bug 898737.
  16. # [01:49] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=898737 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, ctrl + enter in Yahoo Mail not sending in Linux
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  55. # [12:03] <@marcoz> icaaq: Hi! Do you remember if you filed a bug about the rating star items when reviewing an app in MarketPlace.mozilla.org not being accessible? I only see clickable text which is, in fact, not clickable from NVDA. And I was wondering if you saw that and had already filed a bug.
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  61. # [12:43] <icaaq> marcoz: hi, that was some time ago, Let me have a look :)
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  67. # [13:01] <@marcoz> Sh*t, notebook went to sleep while I was on the phone.
  68. # [13:02] <@marcoz> icaaq: Ah I realize that. :) Did you find anything?
  69. # [13:05] <icaaq> marcoz: sorry, in a meeting at the moment.
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  72. # [13:47] <@marcoz> Good morning surkov! :)
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  74. # [13:49] <@surkov> marcoz: hi
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  76. # [13:56] <@marcoz> surkov: I've been trying all morning to get auto completes to fail in Firefox for Windows. Whatever it is that triggers the intermittent failure in bug 890795, it does not seem to happen with NVDA running. I do not get any abnormal behavior. :(
  77. # [13:56] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=890795 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Intermittent TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | /accessible/tests/mochitest/events/test_focus_autocomplete.xul |
  78. # [13:58] <@surkov> marcoz: ok good to know
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  82. # [14:09] <@firebot> emorley@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 907125 from --- to FIXED.
  83. # [14:09] <@firebot> emorley@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 907125 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  84. # [14:09] <@firebot> emorley@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 907125 from --- to mozilla26.
  85. # [14:09] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=907125 nor, --, mozilla26, marco.zehe, RESO FIXED, [AccessFu] Impove output for ARIA tabs
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  87. # [14:12] <@firebot> emorley@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 883672 from --- to FIXED.
  88. # [14:13] <@firebot> emorley@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 883672 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  89. # [14:13] <@firebot> emorley@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 883672 from --- to mozilla26.
  90. # [14:13] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=883672 nor, --, mozilla26, six.dsn, RESO FIXED, XULLinkAccessible should implement text interface similar to XULLabelAccessible
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  95. # [14:20] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 907682 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  96. # [14:21] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=907682 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, HTML:option group position is not correct when select is collapsed
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  106. # [15:16] <@davidb> heyo!
  107. # [15:16] <@davidb> 4 hours sleep! you can taunt me with abandon
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  113. # [15:31] <marcoz> Hi there!
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  115. # [15:33] <@davidb> hi marcoz
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  117. # [15:42] <@marcoz> yzen: Hi! So how does your try-server run for bug 795957 look? Ready to land the baby? :)
  118. # [15:42] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=795957 nor, --, ---, yura.zenevich, NEW, [AccessFu] Support live regions
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  121. # [15:53] <yzen> marcoz: was going to but the inbound is closed
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  123. # [15:59] <yzen> marcoz: will do as soon as it's open again :)
  124. # [16:07] <@marcoz> yzen: Very cool! Hadn't noticed that inbound is closed. Wasn't me who broke it. ;)
  125. # [16:08] <yzen> haha
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  135. # [16:29] <@marcoz> davidb: Hope it was OK I filed bug 907737 to get things moving. I think this is one of the most useful developer tools there is and it should be discoverable. :)
  136. # [16:29] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=907737 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Add the screen reader simulator accessibility add-on to the toolbox
  137. # [16:30] <@davidb> marcoz: there was discussion about having it be a default tool for ffos but it was deemed not to meet the bar for general use… so i'm not sure about firefox in general...
  138. # [16:30] <@davidb> it is worth discussing with eeejay for background
  139. # [16:30] <@davidb> eeejay: built a default add-on system for ffos as a best plan B
  140. # [16:33] <@marcoz> davidb: Oh yes, it is something that gets pulled in dynamically in debug mode for the simulator I think. However, this is about adding the add-on to an AMO collection called "Web Developer toolbox", which is something that is optional for web developers to install.
  141. # [16:34] <@marcoz> So I am not proposing to add it to the Firefox core. I read through bug 875040 and bug 879563 before filing this.
  142. # [16:34] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=875040 nor, --, ---, eitan, RESO WONTFIX, Introduce screen reader desktop simulator extension
  143. # [16:34] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=879563 nor, --, ---, eitan, RESO FIXED, Add option for installing additional extensions in DEBUG mode
  144. # [16:38] <@marcoz> davidb: This collection comes up if you choose Tools/Web Developer/Get more tools...
  145. # [16:41] <@davidb> oh!
  146. # [16:41] <@davidb> i misunderstood completely
  147. # [16:41] <@davidb> ok cool
  148. # [16:41] <@davidb> seems like a good idea
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  154. # [17:45] <tbsaunde> surkov: seems we only fire focus event on input
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  156. # [17:45] <tbsaunde> so I guess we need to make sure tree items are recreated or something (just before focus event tree gets reorder)
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  164. # [18:34] <eeejay> davidb, i think marcoz is right
  165. # [18:34] <eeejay> damn..
  166. # [18:37] <@surkov> tbsaunde: why do we need to recreate them?
  167. # [18:40] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 791916 from nobody@mozilla.org to brandondsz26@gmail.com.
  168. # [18:40] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=791916 nor, --, ---, brandondsz26, NEW, HTML label accessible should be created by tag name
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  171. # [18:47] <eeejay> yzen, \o/
  172. # [18:47] <eeejay> sorry my review took so long
  173. # [18:47] <eeejay> live regions really puts us in another league
  174. # [18:48] <yzen> eeejay: no worries at all :)
  175. # [18:48] <eeejay> hoping that timeout never gives us grief
  176. # [18:49] <yzen> eeejay: hopefully
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  181. # [19:00] <tbsaunde> surkov: no clue, I assume autocomplete changes dom somehow
  182. # [19:01] <@surkov> tbsaunde: I think all you need is just fire focus event when active descendant is created
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  184. # [19:10] <tbsaunde> surkov: how?
  185. # [19:12] <@surkov> tbsaunde: I sent you a link yesterday, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/accessible/src/generic/DocAccessible.cpp#1900
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  188. # [19:18] <tbsaunde> surkov: yeah, but what about it?
  189. # [19:19] <@surkov> tbsaunde: add a check that if the accessible is active item and it's container is active then fire focus event, something like this
  190. # [19:20] <tbsaunde> surkov: the accessible == child being added?
  191. # [19:20] <@surkov> yep
  192. # [19:21] <tbsaunde> ok
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  194. # [19:47] <tbsaunde> surkov: doesn't seem to be enough, I don't see new events with http://paste.debian.net/28081/ maybe list item isn't active descendant?
  195. # [19:47] <@surkov> but then it should receive an event
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  200. # [19:52] <tbsaunde> surkov: why? couldn't the autocomplete just not be setting the active descendant property
  201. # [19:53] <@surkov> yes but if we created an accessible and then it sets a property then we should get a notification
  202. # [19:53] <tbsaunde> but why do you think it does set a property?
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  204. # [19:54] <eeejay> maxli, is presenting in 2 minutes at: https://air.mozilla.org/2013-intern-presentations-august-21/
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  207. # [20:09] <eeejay> *applause*
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  210. # [20:11] <eeejay> maxli, great job! both the prez, and this summer. android a11y is in better shape than you found it in
  211. # [20:12] <@davidb> high fives
  212. # [20:12] <eeejay> which is an important campsite rule
  213. # [20:12] <eeejay> also, carry in carry out
  214. # [20:14] <@davidb> dig the hole downwind
  215. # [20:14] <maxli> thanks
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  218. # [20:46] <@davidb> maxli: the frozen treats are recommended today
  219. # [20:48] <maxli> davidb: am strangely okay with instead eating something mildly spicy
  220. # [20:48] <@davidb> that is a pro move
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  246. # [22:34] <@surkov> tbsaunde: basically then it should mean that key press down don't make any visual changes what is also plausible
  247. # [22:35] <@surkov> especially when we see an assertion
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  251. # [23:18] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com granted in-testsuite on bug 795957.
  252. # [23:18] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 795957 from --- to FIXED.
  253. # [23:18] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 795957 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  254. # [23:18] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 795957 from --- to mozilla26.
  255. # [23:19] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=795957 nor, --, mozilla26, yura.zenevich, RESO FIXED, [AccessFu] Support live regions
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