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  10. # [01:04] <@firebot> jamie@kitten-x.com cancelled needinfo?(jamie@kitten-x.co m) on bug 898737.
  11. # [01:04] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=898737 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, ctrl + enter in Yahoo Mail not sending in Linux
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  31. # [03:58] <@firebot> bbajaj@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 888981 from --- to WORKSFORME.
  32. # [03:58] <@firebot> bbajaj@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 888981 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  33. # [03:58] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=888981 cri, --, ---, trev.saunders, RESO WORKSFORME, DownThemAll! causes browser to hang indefinitely
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  35. # [04:04] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 888981 from WORKSFORME to ---.
  36. # [04:04] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 888981 from RESOLVED to REOPENED.
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  87. # [14:36] <marcoz> surkov: Hi! Still no news on the auto completes. They just continue to work fine for me. So the interaction between Firefox and NVDA or JAWS definitely don't trigger the bug.
  88. # [14:37] <@surkov> marcoz: cool, probably it doesn't happen on windows
  89. # [14:41] <marcoz> surkov: Possibly. Were the failures all Linux and/or Mac?
  90. # [14:42] <@surkov> marcoz, trev observes them on linux, I didn't look at which tinderbox machines it fails
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  93. # [15:08] <@davidb> !seen maxli
  94. # [15:08] <@firebot> maxli was last seen 22 hours, 32 minutes and a couple of seconds ago, saying 'marcoz: yzen: fwiw, the examples work for me' in #accessibility.
  95. # [15:11] <marcoz> davidb: Hi! MaxLi was briefly on channel earlier today, at around 6AM EDT, but didn't write anything.
  96. # [15:11] <@davidb> thanks
  97. # [15:12] <@davidb> want to take him out for breakfast
  98. # [15:13] <marcoz> davidb: Ah OK!
  99. # [15:13] <@davidb> he has appeared :)
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  110. # [16:03] <marcoz> Good morning yzen!
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  112. # [16:03] <yzen> marcoz: hi!
  113. # [16:20] <@davidb> at mozilla our interns run a half marathon and eat two breakfasts before settling in to hack
  114. # [16:21] <marcoz> LOL
  115. # [16:21] <marcoz> Mozilla interns rock!
  116. # [16:30] <@davidb> heehe
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  118. # [16:37] <tbsaunde> surkov: looks like bug 890795 only fails on linux
  119. # [16:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=890795 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Intermittent TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | /accessible/tests/mochitest/events/test_focus_autocomplete.xul |
  120. # [16:37] <@surkov> tbsaunde: yep
  121. # [16:38] * tbsaunde doesn't really want to give up but is tempted to disable the test and do something actually useful
  122. # [16:38] <@surkov> tbsaunde: maybe that's right but we need to say somebody it's no a11y failure (cc davidb)
  123. # [16:39] <@davidb> autocomplete hurts my head
  124. # [16:40] <@davidb> surkov: does this actually break a11y for users?
  125. # [16:40] <@surkov> davidb: it must be broken for everybody
  126. # [16:40] <tbsaunde> surkov: well I have no idea what's actually at fault maybe autocomplet maybe the test
  127. # [16:41] <@surkov> in general the test just emulates what the user could do
  128. # [16:41] <tbsaunde> doesn't mean there isn't a bug in how it does it or something
  129. # [16:43] <@surkov> of course but I hard believe that there's something wrong with js test when it works on windows but it doesn't work on linux
  130. # [16:43] <@surkov> and it used to work ok for a long time
  131. # [16:43] <@surkov> for me it sounds like timing issue of autocomplete
  132. # [16:44] <@davidb> yes
  133. # [16:44] <@davidb> maybe something in autocomplete recently moved to a different thread?
  134. # [16:44] <@davidb> (random thought)
  135. # [16:47] * tbsaunde doubts anything has changed about that stuff but might look
  136. # [16:57] <@davidb> that would be great
  137. # [17:01] <tbsaunde> yeah no, nobodies changed anything under there other than build stuff since atleast january
  138. # [17:08] <@davidb> maybe focus or keyboard events stuff
  139. # [17:08] <@davidb> there was something fixed in july… related to key press and key down
  140. # [17:08] <@davidb> iirc
  141. # [17:39] <marcoz> maxli: Just curious, did you investigate what might be going on with bug 904670?
  142. # [17:39] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=904670 nor, --, ---, justdave, RESO FIXED, Create CVS account for bzrmirror@bugzilla.org
  143. # [17:39] <marcoz> Darn, wrong bug number...
  144. # [17:40] <marcoz> it's bug 906670.
  145. # [17:40] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=906670 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [Fig] Can sometimes accessibility focus hidden content from about:home
  146. # [17:40] <maxli> marcoz: starting to look into just now
  147. # [17:41] <maxli> *into it just now
  148. # [17:43] <marcoz> maxli: Very cool! Thanks!
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  151. # [17:47] <@firebot> deletesoftware+moz@yandex.ru changed the Component on bug 732802 from Untriaged to Keyboard Navigation.
  152. # [17:47] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=732802 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, click into new tab page no longer focusses—ctrl-w does not close tab (when "emacs bindings" are enab
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  154. # [18:04] <marcoz> OK, going off for the weekend.
  155. # [18:04] <marcoz> davidb: Have a great PTO!
  156. # [18:05] <@davidb> thank you!
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  158. # [18:09] <@davidb> lunch!
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  160. # [18:12] <@firebot> deletesoftware+moz@yandex.ru changed the Component on bug 733511 from Untriaged to Keyboard Navigation.
  161. # [18:12] <@firebot> deletesoftware+moz@yandex.ru changed the Resolution on bug 733511 from --- to DUPLICATE.
  162. # [18:13] <@firebot> deletesoftware+moz@yandex.ru changed the Status on bug 733511 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED.
  163. # [18:13] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=733511 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, keybindings in bookmark manager are inconsistent to generic ones
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  175. # [19:34] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested needinfo from roc@ocallahan.org on bug 899433.
  176. # [19:34] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=899433 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Accessibility returns empty line for last line in certain cases
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  178. # [19:38] <@surkov> tbsaunde: btw, would you look at other failures as well?
  179. # [19:43] <tbsaunde> surkov: what do you mean?
  180. # [19:43] <@surkov> tbsaunde: I see we have couple other intermittent mochitest failures
  181. # [19:44] <tbsaunde> surkov: I've already wasted most of this week on one of them... :/
  182. # [19:44] <@surkov> :) not really wasted
  183. # [19:46] <tbsaunde> maybe, but not really productive way to spend time either
  184. # [19:48] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled needinfo?(surkov.alexander@ gmail.com) on bug 890795.
  185. # [19:48] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=890795 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Intermittent TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | /accessible/tests/mochitest/events/test_focus_autocomplete.xul |
  186. # [19:48] <@surkov> tbsaunde: how it can be improved? :)
  187. # [19:48] <@surkov> letting instability come into a11y life is not an option
  188. # [19:51] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 344674 from surkov.alexander@gmail.com to nobody@mozilla.org.
  189. # [19:52] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344674 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Merge nsIAccessible::GetExtState() into GetState() by using |long long| type
  190. # [19:55] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 587529 from surkov.alexander@gmail.com to nobody@mozilla.org.
  191. # [19:55] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=587529 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, nsIAccessibleTable's GetCellAt doesn't always return an nsIAccessibleTableCell?
  192. # [20:05] <@davidb> surkov: we could wont fix 587529
  193. # [20:05] <@surkov> davidb: dunno, I didn't look at details
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  197. # [20:30] <@firebot> deletesoftware+moz@yandex.ru changed the Component on bug 738499 from Untriaged to Keyboard Navigation.
  198. # [20:30] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738499 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Keyboard shortcuts "Ctrl+/" and "Ctrl+Shift+A" do not work when cursor is in text boxes
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  204. # [21:45] <tbsaunde> maxli: what is the reason to skip Hyperlink accessibles in bug 899333
  205. # [21:45] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=899333 nor, --, ---, maxli, NEW, Pivot text traversal should traverse into the subtree
  206. # [21:46] <maxli> tbsaunde: I don't think I skip them, what line are you referring to?
  207. # [21:47] <tbsaunde> maxli: the tempPosition->IsLink() part
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  209. # [21:50] <@firebot> deletesoftware+moz@yandex.ru changed the Component on bug 738903 from Untriaged to Keyboard Navigation.
  210. # [21:50] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738903 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, "Search when I start typing"/Quick Find Shortcut for text '/', redirects to Google search form/box o
  211. # [21:52] <maxli> tbsaunde: I don't see how I skip anything
  212. # [21:55] <tbsaunde> maxli: oh right this is all guarded by tempEnd == text->CharacterCount()
  213. # [21:57] <tbsaunde> maxli: does this code somehow work if the current position is in the middle of a text leaf? say you have <p>hello I am some words</p> with mPosition is text leaf and start / end offsets are for hello and you want to move by words
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  215. # [21:58] <maxli> tbsaunde: yes
  216. # [22:04] * tbsaunde tries to figure out how
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  218. # [22:05] <maxli> tbsaunde: the position gets changed to the parent text accessible with the appropriate offsets, so I suppose technically mPosition isn't actually a text leaf
  219. # [22:06] <maxli> tbsaunde: so I think the question exactly as you stated it is an invalid starting position
  220. # [22:09] <tbsaunde> maxli: I don't see how you can do that, if you have mPosition be the hypertext parent of the text leaf with offsets for the start / end of the text leaf then you don't know which word / char in the text leaf you're on
  221. # [22:10] <maxli> tbsaunde: it would have the offsets of the word / char, not the entire text leaf
  222. # [22:11] <tbsaunde> maxli: and if it has multiple text leaf children how do you now which one it is in?
  223. # [22:12] <maxli> tbsaunde: using GetChildAtOffset
  224. # [22:14] <tbsaunde> maxli: I'm pretty sure that's not the way char indexs in hypertexts work
  225. # [22:16] <maxli> tbsaunde: what do you mean? as far as I can tell it works fine
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  227. # [22:18] <tbsaunde> maxli: a text leaf only takes up one char in the parent hyper text iirc
  228. # [22:19] <maxli> tbsaunde: I don't think that's true
  229. # [22:22] <tbsaunde> maxli: ah yes, text leafs aren't embed objects
  230. # [22:22] <tbsaunde> man this stuff is insanely complicated
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