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  12. # [01:06] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com granted review for attachment 803267 on bug 791916.
  13. # [01:06] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=791916 nor, --, ---, brandondsz26, NEW, HTML label accessible should be created by tag name
  14. # [01:08] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 791916 from brandondsz26@gmail.com to eitan@monotonous.org.
  15. # [01:28] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 915458 filed by eitan@monotonous.org.
  16. # [01:28] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=915458 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] When traversing a label that nests a radio/checkbox we should land only on the label
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  22. # [02:30] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=905909 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, test_tree.xul causes infinite recursion
  23. # [02:42] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 899433 from --- to FIXED.
  24. # [02:42] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 899433 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  25. # [02:42] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 899433 from --- to mozilla26.
  26. # [02:42] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=899433 maj, --, mozilla26, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, Accessibility returns empty line for last line in certain cases
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  55. # [05:33] * Topic is 'build the web for everyone | goals: http://is.gd/Z9USZ5'
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  68. # [08:55] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=905909 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, test_tree.xul causes infinite recursion
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  87. # [10:31] <@marcoz> Gijs: Ping?
  88. # [10:31] <Gijs> marcoz: pong!
  89. # [10:32] <@marcoz> ⁃ GijsHas Australlis landed on Nightly yet? And if so, how on Earth do I get to the options that used to be available in the menu system, from the keyboard? I am running a recent Nightly build, and my menu system is completely broken.
  90. # [10:32] <@marcoz> Gijs: I'm on Windows.
  91. # [10:34] <Gijs> marcoz: no, it's not landed yet. If you're having issues with the menubar on regular nightly, then something else broke it.
  92. # [10:35] <@marcoz> Gijs: Oh, it looks like I'm having more than one problem. Looks like tbsaunde and surkov completely broke the XUL UI with bug 846185 or something.
  93. # [10:35] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=846185 nor, --, mozilla26, trev.saunders, RESO FIXED, don't call into nsIAccessibleProviders during a11y tree update
  94. # [10:36] <Gijs> marcoz: that sounds like a plausible explanation. But if they completely broke it, that change should be backed out, I imagine.
  95. # [10:36] <Gijs> marcoz: we're close to moving to aurora, and we definitely wouldn't want to ship something like that
  96. # [10:41] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 915558 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
  97. # [10:41] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=915558 cri, P1, ---, nobody, NEW, XUL UI completely broken in Windows: Tabs, menus, etc.
  98. # [10:48] <@marcoz> Gijs: That's definitely going to be one option. I want tbsaunde and surkov to take a look first, though, and see if there is an easy fix, maybe some overlooked change or something.
  99. # [10:51] <@tbsaunde> marcoz: I'd bet its something dumb, but I'm to tired to go looking tonight, its not complicated but requires close attention to detail
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  101. # [10:55] <@marcoz> tbsaunde: Well, guess you'l have your work cut out for you tomorow. :) Sleep well!
  102. # [10:59] <@tbsaunde> marcoz: interestingly I'm fairly sure I'm running a nightly with that patch and it works fine on linux
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  110. # [13:16] <@firebot> emorley@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 791916 from --- to FIXED.
  111. # [13:16] <@firebot> emorley@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 791916 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  112. # [13:16] <@firebot> emorley@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 791916 from --- to mozilla26.
  113. # [13:16] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=791916 nor, --, mozilla26, eitan, RESO FIXED, HTML label accessible should be created by tag name
  114. # [13:18] <@firebot> emorley@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 914498 from --- to FIXED.
  115. # [13:18] <@firebot> emorley@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 914498 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  116. # [13:18] <@firebot> emorley@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 914498 from --- to mozilla26.
  117. # [13:18] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=914498 nor, --, mozilla26, ehsan, RESO FIXED, Minimize the #includes in accessible/src/base
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  121. # [13:21] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested needinfo from the wind on bug 899433.
  122. # [13:21] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=899433 maj, --, mozilla26, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, Accessibility returns empty line for last line in certain cases
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  124. # [13:31] <@marcoz> Good morning surkov!
  125. # [13:31] <@surkov> hey, marcoz
  126. # [13:32] <@surkov> marcoz: did you try to find a change? (that nasty ui bug)
  127. # [13:41] <@marcoz> surkov: I tried earlier, but was distracted. I first heard about it yesterday from a user, and discovered it today, too. Problem is that I cannot check what build I'm on without the menus working.
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  129. # [13:41] <@marcoz> I'll see where I am at ATM and see if I can find the build that broke.
  130. # [13:41] <@surkov> ok :) I'm curious how our test work
  131. # [13:41] <@surkov> cool, thank you
  132. # [13:42] <@marcoz> But I cannot imagine it being anything other than that NSIAccessibleProviders bug, which, if I understand correctly, changes the way XUL accessibles are created.
  133. # [13:43] <@marcoz> surkov: Also, Trevor mentioned that he doesn't see any breakage on Linux, so this may be something Windows-specific which is not covered by Mochitest.
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  135. # [14:08] <@marcoz> surkov: This is taking a while, the FTP server is very slow to give me builds this morning. But it looks like I assumed wrong, the regression did not happen when bug 846185 itself was checked in, but later. It was already broken on the 8th of September, am now checking the builds between that and August 31.
  136. # [14:08] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=846185 nor, --, mozilla26, trev.saunders, RESO FIXED, don't call into nsIAccessibleProviders during a11y tree update
  137. # [14:08] <@surkov> marcoz: right, it should be something windows-specific
  138. # [14:16] <@marcoz> surkov: Hope I'll find it soon. Any windows-spcific bugs that landed late last week you can think of?
  139. # [14:16] <@surkov> I'm not aware fo
  140. # [14:23] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com changed the Resolution on bug 915558 from --- to INVALID.
  141. # [14:24] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com changed the Status on bug 915558 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  142. # [14:24] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com requested status-firefox26 on bug 915558.
  143. # [14:24] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=915558 cri, P1, ---, nobody, RESO INVALID, XUL UI completely broken in Windows: Tabs, menus, etc.
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  145. # [14:26] <@marcoz> surkov: That certainly was a weird bug!
  146. # [14:27] <@marcoz> And it definitely was there, it survived multiple restarts of Windows and Nightly. Only after I started looking for the regression range, and when my downloaded build of the same day that my regularly installed nightly was at, and didn't show the bug, I became suspicious.
  147. # [14:27] <@surkov> marcoz: hm, strange, a bad sign
  148. # [14:28] <@marcoz> I'll definitely watch out for this! But after updating to yesterday's build, things are still working fine, so maybe this was a fluke that had somehow to do with general Windows weirdness, a wrongly registered DLL or some shit like that.
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  151. # [14:37] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com cancelled status-firefox26 on bug 915558.
  152. # [14:37] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=915558 cri, P1, ---, nobody, RESO INVALID, XUL UI completely broken in Windows: Tabs, menus, etc.
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  157. # [14:55] <davidb-bot> marcoz: saw your tweets. Did Australis land?
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  163. # [15:29] <@marcoz> davidb-bot: No, it didn't. And as it turns out,, must have been a flaky thing on my machine. It corrected itself when I was hunting for the regression range.
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  165. # [15:35] <davidb-bot> Phew!
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  169. # [15:45] <@davidb> heyo!
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  171. # [15:48] <@tbsaunde> hey, so is your bot concious or just a really good a-i?
  172. # [15:59] <@marcoz> Heyo davidb! :)
  173. # [15:59] <@marcoz> davidb: So, did you feel courageous and look at the Gaia bug I mentioned yesterday? ;-) ;-)
  174. # [16:07] <@davidb> nope
  175. # [16:07] <@davidb> haha
  176. # [16:07] <@davidb> tbsaunde: it is just my proxy in the cloud
  177. # [16:07] <@davidb> www.irccloud.com
  178. # [16:07] <@davidb> i have a couple of invites btw
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  191. # [17:33] <@marcoz> I like the response eeejay's outreach on dev-gaia has had re better semantics of inputs.
  192. # [17:33] <@marcoz> and labels.
  193. # [17:39] <@davidb> oh yeah great thread
  194. # [17:42] <@davidb> marcoz: are you and eeejay following the work dbuchner et. al. are doing?
  195. # [17:43] <@davidb> x-tag/web components
  196. # [17:43] <@davidb> "Brick"
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  198. # [17:46] <@eeejay> morning, yo
  199. # [17:47] <@davidb> heyo
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  201. # [17:47] <@davidb> eeejay: i assume Brink and BB are different libraries?
  202. # [17:48] <@eeejay> davidb, yeah, i believe so
  203. # [17:48] <@davidb> i am curious if Brick has traction and for what version
  204. # [17:48] <@eeejay> davidb, url for brink/brick?
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  206. # [17:48] <@davidb> http://mozilla.github.io/brick/
  207. # [17:48] <@marcoz> davidb: I have pinged potsch and fwenzel on the Brick stuff. This is a set of reusable web components, whereas BB are stuff you are supposed to copy and use within your own apps, not dynamically load them IIUC.
  208. # [17:49] <@davidb> we'll need a tracker for Brick a11y
  209. # [17:49] <@davidb> if one doesn't exist
  210. # [17:49] <@marcoz> davidb: I know stevef already filed at least one bug against Brick.
  211. # [17:50] <@davidb> i seem to recall the same
  212. # [17:50] <@davidb> but don't see it here https://github.com/mozilla/brick/issues
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  214. # [17:50] <@davidb> oh i see them
  215. # [17:50] <@davidb> they are specific
  216. # [17:50] <@davidb> cool
  217. # [17:51] <@davidb> marcoz: indeed potch has a good reply on https://github.com/mozilla/brick/issues/53
  218. # [17:51] * @davidb breathes easier
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  221. # [17:53] * @marcoz just forked it.
  222. # [17:53] <@marcoz> eeejay: I believe I'll need some Git coaching on how to integrate my fork of Gaia (done from Mozilla-b2g, not you) into the gaia I already have on my system. That was forked directly from Mozilla-B2G I believe. Or would it just be easier to wipe the dir and start over?
  223. # [17:54] <@marcoz> s/forked/cloned/
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  225. # [17:55] <@eeejay> marcoz, you could export and import patches, or if you want to be fancy, you could add the other repo on you machine as a "remote", and pull in the changes
  226. # [17:56] <@marcoz> eeejay: My ultimate goal is to treat my fork as the one I create branches on and create pull requests, and use the Mozilla-B2G as an upstream I pull in other changes from (rebasing).
  227. # [17:57] <@marcoz> eeejay: I don't see myself creating patches directly on the Github website (does anyone do this?), but use my own tools.
  228. # [18:00] <@marcoz> eeejay: And then push those commits to my github fork and create pull requests from there.
  229. # [18:00] <@marcoz> (or I am not making any sense, which might very well be possible.)
  230. # [18:00] <@eeejay> marcoz, that is the correct workflow
  231. # [18:03] <@eeejay> marcoz, we could do this over skype, if you want?
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  234. # [18:05] <@marcoz> eeejay: How about in 45 minutes to an hour? I'll have dinner first and then add an evening shift tonight.
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  238. # [18:07] <@tbsaunde> davidb: surkov lunch?
  239. # [18:08] <@surkov> tbsaunde: sorry, not in office today
  240. # [18:08] <@eeejay> marcoz, sounds great!
  241. # [18:38] <@davidb> tbsaunde: sorry just got back
  242. # [18:38] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
  243. # [18:50] <@marcoz> eeejay: Ready for skyping?
  244. # [18:52] <@eeejay> marcoz, yup!
  245. # [18:52] <@eeejay> marcoz, let me find a room, one sec
  246. # [18:55] <@marcoz> eeejay: OK! Ready when you are.
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  254. # [19:36] <@tbsaunde> davidb: np, we went for fish
  255. # [19:39] <@davidb> yeah? you should take me sometime if it was good
  256. # [19:39] <@davidb> i had a club bao at banhi mi boys
  257. # [19:40] <@davidb> was good
  258. # [19:40] <@eeejay> ok, this makes me hungry
  259. # [19:40] * @eeejay goes out for a scone
  260. # [19:41] <@davidb> lol scone
  261. # [19:42] * @davidb nags eeejay about empty calories
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  263. # [19:45] <@tbsaunde> davidb: tasty emppty calories :-P
  264. # [19:45] <@davidb> so often the case
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  268. # [20:22] <@eeejay> yeah, that was totally not worth it
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  283. # [22:55] <@davidb> doodeedoooo
  284. # [22:56] <@eeejay> davidb, bored?
  285. # [22:56] <@davidb> just reseting
  286. # [22:56] <@davidb> mentally
  287. # [22:57] <@eeejay> i c
  288. # [22:59] <@davidb> in a way i can distract you from hacking
  289. # [23:02] <@davidb> my work here is done
  290. # [23:02] <@davidb> until later
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