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  1. # Session Start: Mon Oct 07 00:00:01 2013
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  39. # [14:34] <@marcoz> Hi all!
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  49. # [15:49] <davidb> heyo
  50. # [15:50] <Gijs> hello hello
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  55. # [15:54] <@marcoz> Hello Gijs, davidb! :)
  56. # [15:54] <@davidb> hi hi hi
  57. # [15:58] <@davidb> marcoz: meet in 5?
  58. # [15:58] <@marcoz> davidb: Yup!
  59. # [15:58] <@davidb> i might drop off as per usual (wifi)
  60. # [16:00] <@marcoz> So many great minds at Mozilla, and yet this problem still isn't solved! ;)
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  66. # [16:41] <@marcoz> davidb: Bug 923139 for the phone app accessibility if you're interested.
  67. # [16:41] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=923139 nor, --, ---, marco.zehe, NEW, Make the phone app accessible
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  73. # [16:57] <SteveF> surkov: re aria-hidden and inert, I think its a better fit then disabled
  74. # [16:57] <@surkov> SteveF: it's fine, do we look for a better approach or try to figure out the right one?
  75. # [16:57] <SteveF> surkov: and will be a better expreience for AT users until aria-inert comes along
  76. # [16:58] <@surkov> if inert gets implemented as aria-hidden then we probably won't be implemented as aria-inert
  77. # [16:58] <SteveF> surkov: sure, but speccing and implementation will take time, why not?
  78. # [16:59] <@surkov> that's right
  79. # [16:59] <@surkov> not sure I see why we would need be in hurry here
  80. # [16:59] <SteveF> I suppose because chrome is implementing dialog as we speak
  81. # [17:00] <SteveF> and issue with non (pseudo) modal dialog content being available has been a long time issue
  82. # [17:01] <SteveF> surkov: but don't see why a more nuanced implementation could not be implemented later even if hidden is now?
  83. # [17:02] <@surkov> because it's not backward compatible
  84. # [17:03] <@surkov> I really would put effort into aria-inert development rather than implementation of temporary solution
  85. # [17:03] <SteveF> surkov: OK
  86. # [17:03] <@surkov> and nothing so permanent as temporary thing :)
  87. # [17:04] <SteveF> surkov: so do not implement inert as anything for the moment?
  88. # [17:04] <@surkov> I'd say you can implement an UI part, but accessibility part needs to be finished and agreed
  89. # [17:06] <SteveF> i believe in the case of chrome the acc part is already done in regards to inert subtrees so same issue arises - temporary solution becomes permanent?
  90. # [17:06] <SteveF> well I know it is rather than believe :-)
  91. # [17:06] <SteveF> its just not working as it should
  92. # [17:08] <SteveF> I also think the issue of browser implemented inert sub trees in the case of modal dialog could be a special case
  93. # [17:12] <@surkov> and it's ok if they just implemented, it shouldn't be necessary to put the implementation approach into law stating it in the spec
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  96. # [17:44] <SteveF> surkov: i agree but seems like they must adhere to spec
  97. # [17:46] <@davidb> SteveF: he left
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  99. # [17:48] <SteveF> davidb: thats OK i wasn't talking to that surkov anyway
  100. # [17:49] <@davidb> ok!
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  112. # [18:29] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 873450 from nobody@mozilla.org to surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  113. # [18:29] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested review from trev.saunders@gmail .com for attachment 814150 on bug 873450.
  114. # [18:29] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 873450 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  115. # [18:29] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=873450 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, Implement IA2 containing relations
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  123. # [20:38] * @davidb wonders if shopify is accessible
  124. # [20:41] <@davidb> oh this is just foundational stuff
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  131. # [21:56] <yzen> davidb: hi
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