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  1. # Session Start: Wed Oct 30 00:00:00 2013
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  23. # [04:17] <@firebot> shtetldik@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 932643 from Untriaged to Keyboard Navigation.
  24. # [04:17] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=932643 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Firefox 25 broke Previous and Next keyboard shortcuts in the search bar
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  35. # [07:07] <arky> eeejay, ping
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  63. # [13:18] <@marcoz> Good day all!
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  70. # [13:30] <yzen> hi marcoz
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  92. # [14:22] <@davidb> heyo!
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  100. # [14:36] <@firebot> bogdan.maris@softvision.ro requested needinfo from marco.zehe@google mail.com on bug 915558.
  101. # [14:36] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=915558 cri, P1, mozilla27, trev.saunders, RESO FIXED, XUL UI completely broken in Windows: Tabs, menus, etc.
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  108. # [15:11] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com cancelled needinfo?(marco.zehe@google mail.com) on bug 915558.
  109. # [15:11] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com changed the Status on bug 915558 from RESOLVED to VERIFIED.
  110. # [15:11] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com set status-firefox26 to verified on bug 915558.
  111. # [15:11] <@firebot> marco.zehe@googlemail.com set status-firefox27 to verified on bug 915558.
  112. # [15:11] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=915558 cri, P1, mozilla27, trev.saunders, VERI FIXED, XUL UI completely broken in Windows: Tabs, menus, etc.
  113. # [15:15] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 932789 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  114. # [15:16] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=932789 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, isolate nsIAccessibleSelectable implementation
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  117. # [15:56] <@marcoz> davidb: Ping?
  118. # [15:56] <@davidb> marcoz: pong
  119. # [15:57] <@marcoz> davidb: Meeting!
  120. # [15:57] <@davidb> marcoz: on my way
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  125. # [16:01] <@davidb> eeejay: meeting time
  126. # [16:01] <SteveF> davidb: hi when is a good time to talk about keyboard landmark support?
  127. # [16:01] <@davidb> SteveF: if you can catch me around 9-9:30 my time
  128. # [16:01] <@davidb> am
  129. # [16:03] <SteveF> ok so what time is it for you now?
  130. # [16:05] <@davidb> 11:09am
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  133. # [16:28] <eeejay> davidb, i'm in the a11y vidyo room
  134. # [16:29] <eeejay> a crap
  135. # [16:29] <@davidb> eeejay: skype
  136. # [16:29] <@davidb> eeejay: load up and i'll call you
  137. # [16:29] <@davidb> eeejay: however we are doing ok
  138. # [16:34] <@davidb> marcoz: thanks for the ping. my event notification didn't come forward
  139. # [16:35] <@marcoz> davidb: You're welcome! :)
  140. # [16:35] <@davidb> i think that went well
  141. # [16:35] <@marcoz> Me too.
  142. # [16:35] * eeejay would like a wakeup service next time
  143. # [16:36] <@marcoz> Sorry I didn't say more. You were kind of in the flow, and I didn't want to interrupt that.
  144. # [16:36] <@davidb> marcoz: i wonder if they saw your tweets about windows phone 8 :)
  145. # [16:36] <@davidb> marcoz: i hope i didn't hog the air
  146. # [16:36] <@davidb> eeejay: arduino it up
  147. # [16:36] <@marcoz> davidb: Heh, if they did, they certainly took it well!
  148. # [16:36] <@davidb> heheh
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  150. # [16:36] <@davidb> i think they are good people
  151. # [16:37] <@marcoz> davidb: I think you described the technical and philosophical standpoints very well.
  152. # [16:37] <@davidb> thank you
  153. # [16:37] <@marcoz> davidb: Let's see if they'll get back to us at all. So far, they were not at all known for any open-source contributions.
  154. # [16:38] <@davidb> well it ain't always easy to build ffos
  155. # [16:38] <@marcoz> Heh right!
  156. # [16:38] <SteveF> surkov: noticed that input type="color" is implemented in firefox nightly but acc not hooked up fully https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547004
  157. # [16:38] <@firebot> Bug 547004 enh, --, ---, arnaud.bienner, ASSI, Implement <input type="color">
  158. # [16:38] <tbsaunde> well, afaik they're free to sell obfiscated js if they so choose
  159. # [16:39] <SteveF> surkov: do you want me to add suggestions to bug or are you dealing with it?
  160. # [16:39] <@davidb> tbsaunde: they can sell unobfuscated as well :)
  161. # [16:40] <SteveF> surkov: note chrome implementation has current color as value and IA2 role = color chooser
  162. # [16:40] <@davidb> SteveF: that seems sensible
  163. # [16:41] <@davidb> do we have a colour chooser yet?
  164. # [16:41] <SteveF> davidb: brings up OS color chooser
  165. # [16:41] <tbsaunde> davidb: sure
  166. # [16:42] <@davidb> oh
  167. # [16:47] <SteveF> surkov: have added info to related acc bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559767
  168. # [16:47] <@firebot> Bug 559767 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, make <input type="color"> accessible
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  170. # [16:50] <@firebot> martijn.martijn@gmail.com cancelled needinfo?(martijn.martijn@g mail.com) on bug 883059.
  171. # [16:50] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=883059 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in mozilla::a11y::EventQueue::PushEvent
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  173. # [16:58] <tbsaunde> davidb: food?
  174. # [16:59] <@davidb> tbsaunde: yeah, I don't have ideas though
  175. # [16:59] <@davidb> except i want something delicious
  176. # [17:00] <@davidb> and or fresh
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  178. # [17:02] <tbsaunde> davidb: I don't either
  179. # [17:02] <@davidb> i'm only mildly hungry
  180. # [17:02] <clown_mtg> davidb: think of bacon. are you still just mildly hungry?
  181. # [17:02] <@davidb> clown_mtg: i had bacon for breakfast :P
  182. # [17:02] <clown_mtg> a bag 'o bacon?
  183. # [17:03] <@davidb> sadly no
  184. # [17:03] <clown_mtg> some day ...
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  187. # [17:07] <@surkov> SteveF: thanks!
  188. # [17:07] <SteveF> surkov: np
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  190. # [17:07] <@surkov> SteveF: afaik it's under pref still but sure we need to implement a11y part
  191. # [17:08] <@surkov> also iirc input@type="number" has got implemented relatively recently
  192. # [17:08] <@surkov> and no a11y still
  193. # [17:08] <SteveF> its in nightly, color is will have a look at number
  194. # [17:09] <@davidb> the original html5 input author moved on so the new person needs to learn to ping us.
  195. # [17:10] <@davidb> (apropos a11y-approval flag)
  196. # [17:11] <@surkov> davidb: in general I try to be aware of new things
  197. # [17:11] <@davidb> sure
  198. # [17:12] <@davidb> proactive is good, but getting pinged is also a nice catch
  199. # [17:16] <@surkov> davidb: no dobuts
  200. # [17:17] <SteveF> surkov: gotta bug on number?
  201. # [17:18] <@surkov> SteveF: bug 559761
  202. # [17:18] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559761 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, make <input type="number"> accessible
  203. # [17:18] <SteveF> thanks
  204. # [17:18] <@davidb> tbsaunde: i have a 1pm meeting… i don't know if lunch is a thing i will do
  205. # [17:20] <tbsaunde> davidb: k, not sure how you survive
  206. # [17:23] <@davidb> bananas
  207. # [17:23] <tbsaunde> yuk
  208. # [17:33] <@firebot> cpeterson@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 899275 from --- to DUPLICATE.
  209. # [17:33] <@firebot> cpeterson@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 899275 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  210. # [17:34] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=899275 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, CMD+Left and CMD+Right arrow keyboard shortcuts do not work in Gmail's email composer
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  212. # [17:41] <richardschwerdtfeger> Alex, can you join a call?
  213. # [17:43] <richardschwerdtfeger> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Accessibility/AT-APIs/AT-SPI/Events
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  226. # [18:56] <satdav> davidb, whos the best at your team for b2g accessibility testing
  227. # [18:56] <@davidb> satdav: marcoz
  228. # [18:56] <satdav> thanks
  229. # [18:56] <@davidb> and eeejay but he's super busy implementing
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  231. # [19:19] <@davidb> tbsaunde: what do you think about http://www.openh264.org/ ?
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  233. # [19:22] <tbsaunde> davidb: I guess its nice, but as I said in #developers a while ago I don't mind h264 much because libx264 has existed for a while already
  234. # [19:22] <@davidb> ok
  235. # [19:23] <tbsaunde> why are you asking?
  236. # [19:24] <@davidb> just curious. i don't really follow this stuff so you are one of my proxies :)
  237. # [19:25] <tbsaunde> davidb: I care much more about open source implementations being usable than the use of them being perfecetrly with the bounds of IP law
  238. # [19:26] <@davidb> tbsaunde: ok. BTW I don't really understand your last statement in #developers
  239. # [19:27] <@davidb> why can't you land patches? (I don't see patches on the bugs)
  240. # [19:30] <tbsaunde> davidb: I was refering to 931399 and because the tree is closed because b-c is leaking all the things (see dev-platform)
  241. # [19:31] <@davidb> tbsaunde: ah i see. you are right that helping mccr8 would be a priority. memory leaks i take it?
  242. # [19:31] <@davidb> ah yeah
  243. # [19:32] <@davidb> said in channel
  244. # [19:32] <@davidb> and you just said it sigh.
  245. # [19:34] <@davidb> tbsaunde: if you agree that should block 888531 go ahead.
  246. # [19:34] <@davidb> or i can
  247. # [19:38] <tbsaunde> davidb: w/e I can if you don't
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  249. # [19:39] <@davidb> done
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  252. # [19:48] <tbsaunde> surkov: so jsat/ doesn't ever use nsIAccessibleSelectable?
  253. # [19:49] <@surkov> tbsaunde: seems so, otherwise search would fine it
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  258. # [20:01] <tbsaunde> surkov: any reason not to touch SetSelected()
  259. # [20:02] <@surkov> tbsaunde: is it from nsIAccessible?
  260. # [20:03] <tbsaunde> surkov: yes, I'm dumb ignore me
  261. # [20:04] <tbsaunde> surkov: but I do wish you could make the declarations in xpcSelectable or whatever it is final
  262. # [20:04] <@surkov> nah, it's correlates but probably a different story
  263. # [20:05] <@surkov> Accessible is inherited from it?
  264. # [20:05] <tbsaunde> surkov: sure, but doesn't mean the members can't be final
  265. # [20:06] <@surkov> tbsaunde: so MOZ_FINAL about members, not about inheritance?
  266. # [20:06] <@surkov> MOZ_FINAL on class, right?
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  268. # [20:19] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 824646 on bug 932789.
  269. # [20:19] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=932789 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, NEW, isolate nsIAccessibleSelectable implementation
  270. # [20:19] <tbsaunde> surkov: yeah, MOZ_FINAL on the virtual functions not the class
  271. # [20:19] <@surkov> ok
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  275. # [20:35] <@surkov> tbsaunde: do you want to copy methods instead of macros?
  276. # [20:35] <@surkov> I'm about MOZ_FINAL
  277. # [20:41] <tbsaunde> surkov: not sure I get question
  278. # [20:42] <@surkov> tbsaunde: how can I make all methods to use MOZ_FINAL?
  279. # [20:42] <@surkov> because I declare them by NS_DECL_NSIACCESSIBLESELECTABLE macros
  280. # [20:43] <tbsaunde> surkov: I mean replace macro by definition of it then you can just mark them, but if that seems to ugly not a huge deal I guess
  281. # [20:44] <@surkov> I'd leave it as is
  282. # [20:44] <tbsaunde> ok
  283. # [20:45] <tbsaunde> it would just be nice to be sure nobody is overriding that stuff now, which I guess you could do manually
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  285. # [20:48] <@firebot> trev.saunders@gmail.com granted review for attachment 820986 on bug 880159.
  286. # [20:48] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=880159 nor, --, ---, surkov.alexander, ASSI, Character/word offsets for caret when at end of line should not return offsets for next line
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  300. # [22:49] <@firebot> ubeogesh@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 933011 from Untriaged to Keyboard Navigation.
  301. # [22:49] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=933011 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, ALT+N and ALT+P hotkeys no longer work with the new Find Bar in Firefox 25
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