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- # Session Start: Mon Dec 02 00:00:00 2013
- # Session Ident: #accessibility
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- # [11:39] <@marcoz> Hi all!
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- # [11:53] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 945194 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
- # [11:53] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=945194 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Add accessibles that have aria-hidden="false" to the tree even if HTML5 hidden or CSS hidden or disp
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- # [14:43] <@marcoz> Good morning surkov!
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- # [15:19] <@davidb> heyo!
- # [15:23] <@marcoz> Heyo davidb! :)
- # [15:23] <@davidb> hi hi
- # [15:23] <@davidb> I can't believe it is December!
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- # [15:28] <@marcoz> It is! And this year, I am *really* in the Christmassy mood, as you might have been able to tell from the pictures I posted over the weekend to FB and Twitter. ;-)
- # [15:28] <@davidb> heheh
- # [15:28] <@davidb> well this is a big month for you
- # [15:29] <SteveF> surkov: hi that bug i pointed to may illuminate the aria-hidden thing
- # [15:29] <@marcoz> It certainly is! It hit us really hard on Saturday that it is merely a month now. Or rather, today it's exactly four weeks. :)
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- # [15:30] <@surkov> SteveF: yep, thank you
- # [15:30] <@surkov> marcoz: good morning!
- # [15:30] <yzen> marcoz, davidb hi
- # [15:30] <yzen> surkov: hi
- # [15:30] <@marcoz> Hi yzen! :)
- # [15:31] <@surkov> yzen: hey
- # [15:32] <yzen> i ve spend some time over the weekend on a script that might be helpful to b2g/gaia developer (to set up the build environment). especially on platforms that don't currently build keon or inari (those 2)
- # [15:32] <yzen> https://gist.github.com/yzen/7723421
- # [15:32] <@davidb> yzen: cool!
- # [15:33] * @davidb waves to surkov
- # [15:33] <@surkov> hey, davidb
- # [15:33] <yzen> basically it installs a headless ubuntu vm with everything set up, just plug the phone and run ./config.sh
- # [15:34] <@marcoz> yzen: Nice! :)
- # [15:34] <@marcoz> yzen: So, did you win the battle against the Keon, or did the Inari device get you going finally?
- # [15:35] <yzen> yes i got the inari working and could flash it, but then i realized what i was most likely missing for keon,so i have a feeling keon would've worked too just fine
- # [15:35] <@davidb> yzen: want to share that on a mailing list?
- # [15:35] <yzen> davidb: definitely which one should i do it on ?
- # [15:36] <yzen> davidb: this ? https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-b2g
- # [15:37] <@davidb> sure
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- # [15:39] <@marcoz> yzen: Nice! Good to know that you are now up and running with the ZTE/Inari!
- # [15:39] * @marcoz still tries to comprehend what people want to tell him about how to get the Buri/Hamachi AKA Alcatel One Touch Fire going.
- # [15:52] <tbsaunde> is it possible to be amused and horrified by the same thing? because I think that aria-hidden bugis
- # [15:52] <@davidb> hi tbsaunde
- # [15:53] <@firebot> hendrik@hendrikmaryns.name changed the Resolution on bug 944996 from INVALID to ---.
- # [15:53] <@firebot> hendrik@hendrikmaryns.name changed the Status on bug 944996 from RESOLVED to REOPENED.
- # [15:53] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=944996 nor, --, ---, nobody, REOP, Ctrl+left/right do not work correctly in Google Drive
- # [16:00] <tbsaunde> davidb: heya
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- # [16:11] <erkan^> hi marcoz
- # [16:11] <erkan^> Who has Mac OSX too?
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- # [16:37] <yzen> marcoz: the Buri/Hamachi device, are you trying to build it on osx ?
- # [16:38] <@marcoz> yzen: Building is not the problem. I need to get my phone into a state where I can flash things onto it. And that requires a lot of extra steps.
- # [16:38] <yzen> marcoz: is it fast boot related ?
- # [16:39] <@marcoz> Yup.
- # [16:40] <@marcoz> yzen: Yup.
- # [16:41] <yzen> marcoz: and i m guessing it's different from the additional instructions for inari, eh?
- # [16:49] <@davidb> tbsaunde: PMed ya
- # [16:51] <tbsaunde> already replied
- # [17:02] <@marcoz> yzen: Of course it is! :) Totally different system.
- # [17:05] <yzen> marcoz: i've read somewhere that ./flash.sh fails for hamachi when it's called without args
- # [17:09] <@marcoz> yzen: Oh yeah it fails, but because it finds a read-only system. ;-)
- # [17:09] <yzen> marcoz: is it because adb doesn't have su on the device ?
- # [17:11] <@marcoz> yzen: It doesn't say.
- # [17:11] <yzen> marcoz: would it fail if you run sudo ./flash.sh ... ?
- # [17:16] <@marcoz> yzen: Didn't try. I looked on our internal QA pages and found that I most likely need to flash at least one development build with TCL's flashing tool before I can do anything else useful. Since this is an off-the-shelf phone, it is definitely in end-user mode, despite USB debugging on.
- # [17:17] <@marcoz> yzen: I just contacted a colleague with a request for clarification on one point, so should be in better shape knowledge-wise soon. :)
- # [17:17] <yzen> cool
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- # [18:05] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 945308 filed by twalker@mozilla.com.
- # [18:05] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=945308 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in mozilla::a11y::HyperTextAccessible::GetBoundsInFrame(nsIFrame*, unsigned int, unsigned int)
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- # [18:08] <SteveF> marcoz: should firefox on android be working with talkback?
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- # [19:08] <@davidb> wow, time flies
- # [19:08] <@davidb> this was 15 months ago http://community.nvda-project.org/changeset/be4dd16a3fd1cda87b2534abbbf8714e7455c700
- # [19:08] <@davidb> (nvda aria-hidden change set)
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- # [20:13] <erkan^> hi davidb
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- # [20:13] <erkan^> SteveF, is talkback a special accessibility from blind and impaired visually ?
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- # [20:20] <@davidb> hi
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- # [22:58] <@firebot> gijskruitbosch+bugs@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 945435 from Untriaged to Disability Access APIs.
- # [22:58] <@firebot> gijskruitbosch+bugs@gmail.com changed the Product on bug 945435 from Firefox to Core.
- # [22:58] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=945435 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Firefox changed the way it handled role="presentation" breaking ATs
- # [22:58] * Gijs gently pokes that bug in the direction of a11y
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- # [23:55] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 945435 from UNCONFIRMED to NEW.
- # [23:55] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=945435 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Firefox changed the way it handled role="presentation" breaking ATs
- # Session Close: Tue Dec 03 00:00:00 2013
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