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  1. # Session Start: Wed Dec 11 00:00:01 2013
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  34. # [14:20] <@MarcoZ> Good day all!
  35. # [14:38] <icaaq> Hi MarcoZ, still headache?
  36. # [14:39] <@MarcoZ> icaaq: Thanks, feeling better today, but something is a bit strange, like a lurking cold or so.
  37. # [14:41] <icaaq> MarcoZ: are you in germany nowadays? always on irc kind of late :)
  38. # [14:46] <@MarcoZ> icaaq: yes, I am in Germany, but often spend the mornings with focused testing and don't turn on IRC so it won't distract me.
  39. # [14:47] <icaaq> MarcoZ: ahh, and here I come right away, chatt chatt chatt ;)
  40. # [14:49] <@MarcoZ> icaaq: Heh, that's OK, when I'm online I'm also usually available to chat.
  41. # [14:49] <@MarcoZ> icaaq: It was just yesterday that I needed to perform final testing before the Firefox 26 release.
  42. # [14:50] <icaaq> MarcoZ: I see.
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  44. # [15:04] <icaaq> MarcoZ: hmm, firefox mobile keeps crashing on me when i have talkback on. 1. i start typing a url 2.then i hit one of the suggestions from the list. 3. bang crash
  45. # [15:13] <@MarcoZ> icaaq: Which version on what version of Android?
  46. # [15:15] <icaaq> MarcoZ: firefox 26 android 4.4.2
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  50. # [15:23] <@MarcoZ> icaaq: Will try in a bit. I used Nightly earlier and had no problems.
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  52. # [15:23] <icaaq> MarcoZ: ok.
  53. # [15:23] <@MarcoZ> icaaq: In the meantime, you can submit the crash report, from the awesomebar then open about:crashes and click the link of the submitted crash report to see if it already is a filed bug.
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  57. # [15:26] <@davidb> heyo!
  58. # [15:26] <@MarcoZ> Heyo davidb !
  59. # [15:26] <@davidb> MarcoZ: what's new?
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  61. # [15:27] <@MarcoZ> davidb: We released Firefox 26 yesterday! ;-)
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  63. # [15:27] * @davidb is behind on social and bugmail
  64. # [15:27] <@davidb> yay
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  68. # [15:29] <icaaq> MarcoZ: I can see a crashreport… java.lang.classcastException: org.mozilla.gecko.home.twolinepagerow cannot be cast to org.mozilla.gecko.home.searchenginerow
  69. # [15:30] <icaaq> Should i report this bug in firefox for android?
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  71. # [15:32] <@MarcoZ> icaaq: Yes please!
  72. # [15:32] <@MarcoZ> This is not accessibility-related it would seem.
  73. # [15:32] <@MarcoZ> So it should probably go into the component Awesome Screen or whatever it is called.
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  75. # [15:36] <icaaq> MarcoZ: ok, filed!
  76. # [15:38] <@MarcoZ> icaaq: Got the bug number?
  77. # [15:39] <icaaq> MarcoZ: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=948937
  78. # [15:44] <@MarcoZ> icaaq: Thanks!
  79. # [15:44] * @davidb ponders bug 948276
  80. # [15:44] <@MarcoZ> davidb: Yeah I was thinking about it too, and then decided to just test it. It checked out for me.
  81. # [15:45] <@davidb> hopefully no gotchas
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  83. # [15:51] <@davidb> MarcoZ: can you chime in on the goal update email?
  84. # [15:51] <@davidb> surkov, tbsaunde you too
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  86. # [15:52] <@surkov> same as Marco
  87. # [15:57] <@davidb> surkov: MarcoZ didn't comment on core stuff
  88. # [15:58] <@surkov> I do
  89. # [15:58] <@davidb> awesome
  90. # [15:58] <@surkov> it's at risk
  91. # [15:58] <@surkov> I mean
  92. # [16:03] <@davidb> oh
  93. # [16:03] <@surkov> davidb: what is that Stability: investigate instantiation of a11y for other test suites and make them pass?
  94. # [16:04] <@surkov> davidb: did we have sec-moderate bugs?
  95. # [16:04] <@davidb> surkov: tbsaunde wanted to have the engine instantiated during other mochitest runs outside our suite... as experimental
  96. # [16:04] <@davidb> no sec moderates
  97. # [16:04] <@davidb> afaik
  98. # [16:04] <@surkov> yep, I don't remember them too
  99. # [16:04] <@davidb> let's try to scope our goals better next year
  100. # [16:05] <@surkov> Hot AT vendor fixes is at risk, at least until we have bad regressions
  101. # [16:05] <@davidb> until == while?
  102. # [16:05] <@surkov> about stability it'd be good to hear from trev
  103. # [16:05] <@surkov> davidb: yes
  104. # [16:06] <@davidb> ok
  105. # [16:06] <@surkov> davidb: we have couple enn deaking bugs blocking hot a11y fixes, not sure how we can proceed with them
  106. # [16:06] <@davidb> surkov: if regressions over 2 weeks old don't count do we pass?
  107. # [16:07] <@surkov> davidb: I think we can. I want to fix couple HTML5 things, so we should be looking good
  108. # [16:07] <@surkov> if we agreed how to count Enn's bug
  109. # [16:07] <@surkov> bugs
  110. # [16:07] <@davidb> hmm ok
  111. # [16:07] <@davidb> surkov: are you taking any extra vacation before the holiday?
  112. # [16:08] <@surkov> those are bad and old
  113. # [16:08] <@surkov> before which holiday?
  114. # [16:08] <@surkov> but I didn't plan any extra vacations
  115. # [16:08] <@surkov> at least before
  116. # [16:08] <@surkov> maybe after :)
  117. # [16:08] <@surkov> what holidays schedule is?
  118. # [16:09] <@davidb> 1 in
  119. # [16:09] <@davidb> min
  120. # [16:09] <@surkov> sue
  121. # [16:09] <@surkov> sure
  122. # [16:10] <@davidb> hmm well the wiki isn't updated...
  123. # [16:15] <@davidb> surkov: I can't find it but Jay announced adding holidays this year, IIRC we are off from Dec 24th-January 2nd.
  124. # [16:16] <@surkov> I see
  125. # [16:17] <@surkov> davidb: I heard something about extended holidays like 20 dec, no?
  126. # [16:17] <@davidb> i think the 20th is a Friday so at least 21st... but unsure
  127. # [16:19] <@davidb> surkov: so your best estimate is the the hot vendor fixes will be done?
  128. # [16:20] <@surkov> this week hopefully, perhaps a next one
  129. # [16:20] <@davidb> surkov: ok... but this looks scary https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=923199&hide_resolved=1
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  132. # [17:27] <@MarcoZ> Ugh this is just so disgusting! Been running in Windows for a day, and already I am again running into inexplicable weirdnesses just by doing my work. how can anybody be productive with this shit? And this is not even Windows 8, it's Windows 7!
  133. # [17:32] <@davidb> FF and NVDA?
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  140. # [18:14] <jamesn> davidb, can you join the pf call to talk about the F2F?
  141. # [18:15] <SteveF> davidb: adding to your harem I see http://www.indeed.ca/job/Accessibility-Developer-at-Mozilla-in-Toronto,-ON-cb9cc29c67149025
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  154. # [19:45] <@davidb> jamesn: sorry was afk
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  170. # [22:02] <@davidb> tbsaunde: how's things?
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  172. # [22:02] <tbsaunde> davidb: just woke up so not that great
  173. # [22:03] <@davidb> tbsaunde: refresh yourself.
  174. # [22:04] <@davidb> hope you didn't work too late
  175. # [22:06] <tbsaunde> not really
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