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  15. # [02:43] * Topic is 'build the web for everyone | http://is.gd/DKG0d5'
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  60. # [15:26] <@davidb> heyo!
  61. # [15:27] <clown> oyeh!
  62. # [15:29] <@tbsaunde> hey
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  74. # [16:27] <SteveF> surkov: you coming to PF meet?
  75. # [16:28] <@davidb> SteveF: he is on the call but not in #pf
  76. # [16:28] <@surkov> SteveF: I'm in
  77. # [16:28] <@surkov> yep, #pf doesn't get me in
  78. # [16:31] <SteveF> surkov: as you are on call?
  79. # [16:31] <@surkov> yes
  80. # [16:31] <SteveF> ok and IRC?
  81. # [16:32] <@surkov> not on IRC
  82. # [16:32] <@surkov> I can't join
  83. # [16:32] <@surkov> not sure why
  84. # [16:33] <@davidb> SteveF: he is in #aapi, but maybe Michael needs to whitelist for pf
  85. # [16:34] <@davidb> SteveF: are you coming to f2f?
  86. # [16:34] <SteveF> when?
  87. # [16:35] <@davidb> SteveF: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/meetings/2014-01-ftf
  88. # [16:35] <SteveF> ok
  89. # [16:36] <@davidb> surkov: I assume you'll be here :)
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  95. # [17:00] <@surkov> SteveF: is there example somewhere of that autocomplete thing?
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  97. # [17:01] <SteveF> surkov: will look
  98. # [17:01] <@surkov> thank you
  99. # [17:03] <@davidb> tbsaunde: wanna chat?
  100. # [17:20] <@tbsaunde> davidb: sure
  101. # [17:21] <@davidb> tbsaunde: ok to the bat cave!
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  105. # [17:45] <@davidb> tbsaunde: i think i'll head to banh mi in about 5 minutes can i grab you something?
  106. # [17:46] <@tbsaunde> davidb: chicken sandwich and fries
  107. # [17:46] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I can go just need to put boots on
  108. # [17:46] <@davidb> tbsaunde: up to you
  109. # [17:47] <@tbsaunde> I could use a walk
  110. # [17:47] <@davidb> sounds good.
  111. # [17:47] <@davidb> surkov: ready to roll?
  112. # [17:47] <@surkov> ok
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  118. # [18:01] <@eeejay> hi hi hi
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  125. # [19:27] <@davidb> hi ginn!
  126. # [19:27] <@davidb> eeejay: welcome back!
  127. # [19:28] <@eeejay> thanks :)
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  130. # [20:08] <@tbsaunde> so, can anyone easily use outlook web access, or do I need to set up office 365?
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  132. # [20:11] <@davidb> i've not tried
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  140. # [20:47] <SteveF> surkov: can you feed back to the relevant parties i.e. rich as i get the feeling you are not on board with the PF consensus on aria-hidden :-)
  141. # [20:48] <SteveF> surkov: even though there appeared to be consensus on the call i.e. no objection
  142. # [20:48] <@surkov> SteveF: there are couple issues here, my english is not so well so it's sort of hard to follow phone calls and especially take some decisions by phone
  143. # [20:49] <@surkov> that's why I prefer emails :)
  144. # [20:49] <@davidb> right, voicing your opinion via email should be respected
  145. # [20:50] <@surkov> that argument sounded logical (i.e. if aria-hidden="true" on element having no @hidden means hidden for AT then opposite should work) but
  146. # [20:50] <SteveF> davidb: thats fine, but there has been no email, thus i suggest sending one, also alex was on the call and the question was asked and nobody objected
  147. # [20:51] <@davidb> and I fully support you asking for this :)
  148. # [20:51] <@surkov> I'm not sure I saw a realy good use case of aria-hidden="false"
  149. # [20:51] <SteveF> davidb: surkov: http://www.w3.org/2013/12/16-pf-minutes.html#item01
  150. # [20:51] <SteveF> thats the minutes
  151. # [20:52] <SteveF> surkov: i know you don't but most other people on the call do
  152. # [20:52] <@surkov> SteveF: what the next step should be, should we wait for more examples?
  153. # [20:52] <@surkov> from JS
  154. # [20:54] <SteveF> surkov: if you don't agree with the resolution then please speak up via PF list
  155. # [20:54] <@surkov> SteveF: ok, I will comment
  156. # [20:54] <@surkov> SteveF: I commented directly at bug https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23371
  157. # [20:57] <@surkov> SteveF: where can I find PF consensus text?
  158. # [20:57] <SteveF> surkov: yes i saw that and will respond to that, but its not really a strong argument (IMO) and doesn't address the agreement reached
  159. # [20:58] <SteveF> http://www.w3.org/2013/12/16-pf-minutes.html#item01 "RS: Do people have any objects to SF proposal?
  160. # [20:58] <SteveF> ... none, resolution that it be a weak binding"
  161. # [20:59] <@surkov> ok, I see
  162. # [21:00] <@surkov> SteveF: ok, what is the best way to object/comment/ask?
  163. # [21:01] <@surkov> minutes don't seem very helpful (they are smaller than people used to say)
  164. # [21:07] * @surkov guesses just answer email with minutes I've got
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  168. # [21:50] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com set status-firefox27 to fixed on bug 935254.
  169. # [21:51] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com set status-firefox28 to fixed on bug 935254.
  170. # [21:51] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com set status-firefox29 to fixed on bug 935254.
  171. # [21:51] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=935254 maj, --, mozilla29, surkov.alexander, RESO FIXED, Regression: atk_text_get_text_at_offset implementation broken for list items starting 03 July 2013
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  175. # [22:11] <@davidb> !seen abillings
  176. # [22:11] <@firebot> abillings was last seen 3 days, 23 hours, 48 minutes and 53 seconds ago, saying 'or inbound' in #security.
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  179. # [22:57] <@tbsaunde> surkov: any chance you could try the str in bug 883059?
  180. # [22:57] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=883059 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, crash in mozilla::a11y::EventQueue::PushEvent
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  183. # [22:57] <@surkov> tbsaunde: I could of course
  184. # [22:58] <@surkov> tbsaunde: are there any special requirements like I need to have installed some software?
  185. # [23:00] <@tbsaunde> surkov: you need to be able to use the web outlook
  186. # [23:00] <@surkov> ok, i'll try
  187. # [23:06] <@tbsaunde> thx
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