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  1. # Session Start: Tue Jan 28 00:00:00 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  5. # [00:03] <@tbsaunde> surkov: I'll try to do them today
  6. # [00:03] <@surkov> tbsaunde: awesome, thank you!
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  9. # [00:08] <cabanier> surkov: we have a meeting about canvas focus rings right now if you want to voice your concerns
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  11. # [00:17] <@davidb> cabanier: hi, we're in engineering meetings this week in San Francisco and not ready for a live phone call right now. we will try to get some consensus among ourselves though.
  12. # [00:17] <@davidb> hi satdav can't really chat right now
  13. # [00:18] <satdav> its fine
  14. # [00:18] <satdav> davidb, when is the next call you areat
  15. # [00:18] <satdav> at
  16. # [00:18] <@surkov> yep, it'd be good to get some agreement on bugzilla and/or probably have some discussion on email
  17. # [00:18] <@davidb> satdav: what kind of call?
  18. # [00:18] <@surkov> cabanier: who participates?
  19. # [00:19] <satdav> for the meeting you have a monday
  20. # [00:19] <satdav> not accessiblity the other one
  21. # [00:19] <cabanier> surkov: rich from IBM, jatinder/Jay from Microsoft, Mark Sadecki from w3c, me
  22. # [00:20] <cabanier> surkov: dominic didn't call in
  23. # [00:20] <@surkov> cabanier: will be some minutes available?
  24. # [00:20] <cabanier> surkov: Mark has been posting them to public-canvas every week
  25. # [00:22] <@surkov> cabanier: ok, cool
  26. # [00:22] <@surkov> I'll find them out, is that a good place to discuss canvas things, right?
  27. # [00:23] <@surkov> cabanier: ^
  28. # [00:23] <cabanier> surkov: definitely!
  29. # [00:23] <@surkov> ok, good
  30. # [00:23] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 964513 filed by eitan@monotonous.org.
  31. # [00:23] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=964513 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Skip empty headings and headers
  32. # [00:25] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 964514 filed by eitan@monotonous.org.
  33. # [00:26] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=964514 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] When entering a dialog, there should be a context change output
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  37. # [00:36] <@eeejay> davidb, http://www.yelp.com/biz/marlowe-san-francisco-2
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  39. # [00:52] <cabanier> surkov: http://www.w3.org/2014/01/27-html-a11y-minutes.html
  40. # [00:54] <@surkov> cabanier: thanks!
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  42. # [01:06] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 964534 filed by eitan@monotonous.org.
  43. # [01:06] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=964534 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] Move cursor when dialog appears
  44. # [01:17] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 964546 filed by dbolter@mozilla.com.
  45. # [01:17] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=964546 nor, --, ---, dbolter, NEW, Add test for ignored roles.
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  58. # [02:07] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested needinfo from trev.saunders@gma il.com on bug 961818.
  59. # [02:07] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=961818 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Every input type button or submit has a state of editable
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  65. # [02:23] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com changed the Assignee on bug 792031 from dbolter@mozilla.com to nobody@mozilla.org.
  66. # [02:23] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=792031 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Add child role list comparison to tree tests.
  67. # [02:24] <@davidb> tbsaunde, surkov, yzen, jwei, eeejay so the plan is 6:30 at Osha Thai restaurant. It is not too far from the hotel. Reservation is under "David".
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  121. # [12:46] <@firebot> gijskruitbosch+bugs@gmail.com requested needinfo from dbolter@mozilla.c om on bug 963950.
  122. # [12:46] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=963950 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Australis High Contrast theme support
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  130. # [13:48] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 963298 from --- to FIXED.
  131. # [13:48] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 963298 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  132. # [13:48] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 963298 from --- to mozilla29.
  133. # [13:49] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=963298 nor, --, mozilla29, eitan, RESO FIXED, [AccessFu] Add states to Constants module
  134. # [13:50] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 960255 from --- to FIXED.
  135. # [13:50] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 960255 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  136. # [13:50] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 960255 from --- to mozilla29.
  137. # [13:50] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=960255 nor, --, mozilla29, eitan, RESO FIXED, [AccessFu] Adjusting a range <input> does not dispatch a change event
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  145. # [16:30] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com granted in-testsuite on bug 964546.
  146. # [16:30] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=964546 nor, --, ---, dbolter, NEW, Add test for ignored roles.
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  163. # [17:46] <@MarcoZ> yzen: Hey I see bug 923139 is nearing completion! Woot!
  164. # [17:46] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=923139 nor, --, ---, yzenevich, NEW, Make the phone app accessible
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  168. # [18:04] <@yzen> MarcoZ hope so :) still have a follow up bug for tests for the app
  169. # [18:05] <@surkov> yzen: do you want trivial c++ bug 819291? marcoz complains about it
  170. # [18:05] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=819291 cri, --, ---, riteshnpatel1994, NEW, crash in nsIContent::GetPrimaryFrame, called from mozilla::a11y::TextAttrsMgr::GetAttributes
  171. # [18:07] <@yzen> surkov sure i can take it , it looks like its taken atm though ?
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  173. # [18:08] <@davidb> I was almost going to say this week is a good week to work on it because you can chat with surkov.... but then I remembered we are in the same office :)
  174. # [18:08] <@surkov> yzen: it seems like that guy isn't active anymore
  175. # [18:08] <@surkov> davidb: anyway it's good
  176. # [18:08] <@davidb> yeah
  177. # [18:09] <@MarcoZ> surkov: So this is really trivial, or are you pulling a joke on yzen ? :)
  178. # [18:09] <@surkov> MarcoZ: not really, it looks like somebody needs to push that patch, that can be me or anybody else
  179. # [18:10] <@MarcoZ> LOL!
  180. # [18:10] <@MarcoZ> Is that the same problem as with bug 961818?
  181. # [18:10] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=961818 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Every input type button or submit has a state of editable
  182. # [18:10] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Assignee on bug 963829 from nobody@mozilla.org to eitan@monotonous.org.
  183. # [18:10] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=963829 nor, --, ---, eitan, NEW, Elements that are transformed offscreen don't get OFFSCREEN state
  184. # [18:12] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: Will you let me know when all those bits and pieces have come together and I can test a new feature? I kind of lost track of all the stuff you are currently working on in parallel. :)
  185. # [18:12] <@firebot> yzenevich@mozilla.com requested needinfo from riteshnpatel1994@ gmail.com on bug 819291.
  186. # [18:13] <@yzen> surkov ok i asked the assignee if i can take it, if i dont hear from him in the next little while ill take it :)
  187. # [18:16] <@surkov> yzen: awesome, thank you!
  188. # [18:16] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, will do. basically working on the meta bug 963715
  189. # [18:16] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=963715 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [AccessFu] [Meta] Proactive output
  190. # [18:16] <@davidb> MarcoZ: this is sort of random but do you know anyone who could apply to this https://careers.mozilla.org/en-US/position/oGaeYfwM
  191. # [18:17] <@davidb> they don't need security experience
  192. # [18:17] <@MarcoZ> davidb: NO, not off the top of my head.
  193. # [18:17] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, and did some preliminary work with range widgets and speech settings
  194. # [18:18] <@davidb> ack
  195. # [18:18] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: Yup I saw that and thought it very nice!
  196. # [18:18] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: Oh btw did you see the small uproar on dev-gaia about screen reader recently? Like "if it breaks the phone, yank it out of the builds"? LOL
  197. # [18:18] <@eeejay> .. so we could be ready for a settings panel soon
  198. # [18:18] <@eeejay> crap. no
  199. # [18:18] <@davidb> wuh?
  200. # [18:19] <@davidb> what is the subject line?
  201. # [18:19] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, i think this makes the quick toggle feature more pressing
  202. # [18:19] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: davidb: Don't recall, was end of last week or on the weekend.
  203. # [18:20] <@eeejay> just found it. i'll reply
  204. # [18:20] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: We also need a warning dialog with a chance to cancel if Screen Reader is called the first time, and not from our special gesture. Like VoiceOver does it. There, you can opt out on first run if you just launch it from the Accessibility VoiceOver settings.
  205. # [18:21] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, actually. i have another path forward
  206. # [18:21] <@eeejay> MarcoZ, the option in dev settings shouldn't turn on the screen reader, it should enable the accessibility panel in the main settings menu
  207. # [18:22] <@eeejay> i have it here on a local build
  208. # [18:22] <@eeejay> that has a warning dialog and everything
  209. # [18:22] <@MarcoZ> eeejay: Nice!
  210. # [18:23] <@davidb> is there an option to turn on the option in the dev settings?
  211. # [18:23] <@davidb> options all the way down!
  212. # [18:23] <@davidb> sorry. coffee.
  213. # [18:23] <@MarcoZ> Heh
  214. # [18:24] <@MarcoZ> OK, off for the evening. See you tomorrow!
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  216. # [18:25] <@firebot> jwei@mozilla.com changed the Assignee on bug 961696 from nobody@mozilla.org to jwei@mozilla.com.
  217. # [18:26] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=961696 nor, --, ---, jwei, NEW, Accessible object:state-changed:focused events for imagemap links are broken
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  220. # [18:43] <@davidb> tbsaunde: tomorrow at 1pm there is a sandboxing/e10s discussion
  221. # [18:47] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested needinfo from ehsan@mozilla.com on bug 959257.
  222. # [18:47] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=959257 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, google's search box may not emit caret move events
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  230. # [20:06] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com cancelled needinfo?(ehsan@mozilla.com ) on bug 959257.
  231. # [20:07] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=959257 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, google's search box may not emit caret move events
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  246. # [21:19] <@surkov> jwei: so bug 959257 is yours ?
  247. # [21:19] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=959257 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, google's search box may not emit caret move events
  248. # [21:28] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 964955 filed by yzenevich@mozilla.com.
  249. # [21:28] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=964955 nor, --, ---, yzenevich, NEW, [AccessFu] Add Ci.nsIAccessibleTraversalRule.PREFILTER_ to Constatnts.jsm
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  252. # [21:53] <@surkov> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/MathML_Project/Start
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  257. # [22:29] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com granted in-testsuite on bug 963829.
  258. # [22:29] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 963829 from --- to FIXED.
  259. # [22:29] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 963829 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  260. # [22:29] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 963829 from --- to mozilla29.
  261. # [22:30] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=963829 nor, --, mozilla29, eitan, RESO FIXED, Elements that are transformed offscreen don't get OFFSCREEN state
  262. # [22:30] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 964546 from --- to FIXED.
  263. # [22:30] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 964546 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  264. # [22:30] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 964546 from --- to mozilla29.
  265. # [22:30] <@firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=964546 nor, --, mozilla29, dbolter, RESO FIXED, Add test for ignored roles.
  266. # [22:42] <@surkov> http://asurkov.blogspot.com/2012/10/debugging-firefox-accessibility.html
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